[Advanced/Experimental] Mass Effect I - Hydra Game - Game Over

[Lenlo]

  On 3/31/2014 at 8:44 PM, corycurren said:

Slot02 : YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - Agreed on this, nothing wrong here.

Slot09 : Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - I find them scummy. I havnt liked Clouds posts many of them have been absolute crap to me and Darthes damage control hasnt mitigated it enough for me.

Slot08 : Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) - Agreed on this.

Slot12 : HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - I dont see how you can have a town read on them. They havnt posted enough imo and what they have posted hasnt been good. They are a null for me.

 

 

Slot03 : J-TAG (AJ, TG) - Agreed.

Slot04 : PFG (Pralaya, BFG) - Im leaning town on them but can understand why you get null from them, so no problem here.

Slot06 : Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) - Not sure how your getting null. I find them pretty scummy. I havnt liked Leelous unexplained posts or what few posts Tina has made. They arnt big scum, but they are scum none-the-less to me.

Slot11 : Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) - Big disagree. How are these guys not scum to you? They reek. Is it that tracker claim? Cause thats bull crap and I dont believe it.

 

Slot05 : Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - Me. Town. Why is disagree should be obvious.

Slot01 : WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - I have them as town. I want to know why you have them as scum. Buddying with Verb? Cause I view them against Des/Verb as town on town violence because it went unchecked for so long. I feel scum on either side would have done something to stop it if a scum was involved.

Slot10 : Evil Siblings (Lily, Jack) - Im null/scum on them atm. I dont like their bodyguard claim and the rest of their play leaves much to be desired, so no problem here.

 

Responses in black.

[Sedai]

@Despo. You want me to give my opinion on why I think other people are scum to prove I'm town? That's pretty impossible. Unless of course my reasoning are the same as yours?

 

I've been doing that. I've got probably top 3 post count. With the least amount of fluff.

 

I have nothing to add to this as I've said my peace on the matter, and I find semantically what your asking to be impossible.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:08 AM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 3/31/2014 at 8:44 PM, corycurren said:

Slot02 : YoloHashSwag (Despo, Verbal) - Agreed on this, nothing wrong here.

Slot09 : Clarthe (Cloud, Darthe) - I find them scummy. I havnt liked Clouds posts many of them have been absolute crap to me and Darthes damage control hasnt mitigated it enough for me.

Slot08 : Spliffanity (Krak, Dap) - Agreed on this.

Slot12 : HaXorz (Hally, Xthrax) - I dont see how you can have a town read on them. They havnt posted enough imo and what they have posted hasnt been good. They are a null for me.

 

 

Slot03 : J-TAG (AJ, TG) - Agreed.

Slot04 : PFG (Pralaya, BFG) - Im leaning town on them but can understand why you get null from them, so no problem here.

Slot06 : Sexy Sisters (Tina, Leelou) - Not sure how your getting null. I find them pretty scummy. I havnt liked Leelous unexplained posts or what few posts Tina has made. They arnt big scum, but they are scum none-the-less to me.

Slot11 : Straw Hats (Amega, Thane) - Big disagree. How are these guys not scum to you? They reek. Is it that tracker claim? Cause thats bull crap and I dont believe it.

 

Slot05 : Release the Leno (RTE, Lenlo) - Me. Town. Why is disagree should be obvious.

Slot01 : WiFuM (Ithi, Turin) - I have them as town. I want to know why you have them as scum. Buddying with Verb? Cause I view them against Des/Verb as town on town violence because it went unchecked for so long. I feel scum on either side would have done something to stop it if a scum was involved.

Slot10 : Evil Siblings (Lily, Jack) - Im null/scum on them atm. I dont like their bodyguard claim and the rest of their play leaves much to be desired, so no problem here.

 

Responses in black.

 

I've read Cloud as town, so we just plain disagree here.

 

Hallia has had a very relaxed tone, doesn't really care how she is perceived. Very different than the last game I played with her.

 

I have trouble reading TinaHel in general, and I think the suspicion of them has been played up and is exaggerated in comparison to their actual posts, which usually means it is a scum narrative.

 

Thane has had some awful posts, but Amega seems town to me. They aren't the best lynch for the day, for sure. Do you think they are?

Ithi and Turin have had awful posts - look to me WoTs. Forced narratives, complete inability to relax under any scrutiny, overexplaining simple things, absurd amounts of fluff, etc. etc.

[Lenlo]

Best lynch today? No probably not. Most likely lynch that I would accept today? Yup. 

 

For Ithi and Turin thats par for the course imo and I really think the violence with Des/Verb is town on town. 

[Cory Caboose]

Can you explain exactly how you feel about Thane/Amega besides "they reek"?

I pointed out several issues with Thane in my WoT - he tangled himself up with Tina/Lee early in a way that looked sketch, but Tina/Lee has looked better to me lately so it's hard to crucify Thane for that.

 

If Amega's lying, it's going to be very difficult to keep up with that lie for a long time. What exactly reeks?

[Sedai]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:07 AM, corycurren said:

Well, even with I go to posts on profile it disables me from multi-quoting and if i click on the post it brings me back to the OP >.<

 

Major observations on JackD

 

Heavily dislikes attention, overreacts to light negative attention. I FOSed about six different players in my WoTs, but Jack_D took it directly (to be fair, Evil Siblings is the day's best lynch regardless), and let's not forget how overly sensitive he was to his opening joke post, leading him to attempt to justify it, etc. and trying to play up his town meta whereas Town!Jack I assume wouldn't feel such a compelling need to explain himself under light suspicion.

 

Is doing very little to solve the game. Has thrown his vote around and thrown several FOSes (accusations of OMGUS at... Verbal? - accuses other people of "squirming", etc) yet has demonstrated all the actions he believes "are scummy" - does he even believe these are scumtells? He OMGUS'd me pretty darn quickly, and has squirmed at every mention of his joke vote and many times in the last three pages.

 

Has not voted logically. Pounced on Darthe, Hallia and (now) me with little reasoning and no followable narrative in the thread. Wolfy pop-ins, fake "hunting" attitude (accusing people of known false scumtells), etc. etc.

I don't mind attention. I said earlier I welcomed it. Guess your read through wasn't thorough.

 

I don't mind pointing out my reason for my joke vote/ day 1 place holder. I've done it a bunch. I think by the time you asked it was my third/fourth time explaining it.

 

I've never mentioned verb or des being scum. I actually have picked out little nuances I found to be scummy.

 

Such as Lenlo's willing to call out anyone voting or putting des/verb under suspicion.

 

I've called out Hallia's town vs town statement and why I didn't like it.

 

I've pointed out Thane's scummy behavior. That you must agree with on some level as you also find him to be scummy.

 

I've never mentioned darthe. I'm not sure where you pulled that from. Again that's off and completely incorrect.

 

I've never accused anyone of known scum tells. I was asked my opinion on Lenlo and quoted my most recent experience. And further stated I didn't know enough meta on him to say definitively one way or another.

 

So all points so far are false. What else you got big deal?

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:19 AM, Lenlo said:

Best lynch today? No probably not. Most likely lynch that I would accept today? Yup. 

 

For Ithi and Turin thats par for the course imo and I really think the violence with Des/Verb is town on town. 

 

I'm waiting on the Jack flip ATM, as there was a blow-up between ES and WiFuM around page 20 that could have either been serial bussing or legit hunting. Would need to reread more thoroughly. Thought it was a little forced at the time, but I can't really analyze that heavily @ work and I don't have time to reread the thread ATM ^.^

[Sedai]

In Corey talk. Lets lynch lily and myself as soon as we flip town and then move on to Ithi and Turin. For those that are skimming.

[Lenlo]

I dont feel like going back and find the actual posts for quotes but Thanes posts have been what has mostly given me scummy vibes from them and nothing Amega has done has mitigated those for me. Then that fake interaction with Jack where he claimed tracker leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I dont believe him and want him lynched. I did exaggerate with the word reek though ill admit. I couldnt think of a better one and it may have been strong.

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:20 AM, Jack_D said:

 

Such as Lenlo's willing to call out anyone voting or putting des/verb under suspicion.

 

Stop trying to make this a thing. This isnt a thing. I have not been doing that so stop misrepping my actions. There were reasons for each and every one of those pings that werent focused on Verb/Des.

[Sedai]

I noticed at least 4 and that's what I perceived to be happening.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:20 AM, Jack_D said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:07 AM, corycurren said:

Well, even with I go to posts on profile it disables me from multi-quoting and if i click on the post it brings me back to the OP >.<

 

Major observations on JackD

 

Heavily dislikes attention, overreacts to light negative attention. I FOSed about six different players in my WoTs, but Jack_D took it directly (to be fair, Evil Siblings is the day's best lynch regardless), and let's not forget how overly sensitive he was to his opening joke post, leading him to attempt to justify it, etc. and trying to play up his town meta whereas Town!Jack I assume wouldn't feel such a compelling need to explain himself under light suspicion.

 

Is doing very little to solve the game. Has thrown his vote around and thrown several FOSes (accusations of OMGUS at... Verbal? - accuses other people of "squirming", etc) yet has demonstrated all the actions he believes "are scummy" - does he even believe these are scumtells? He OMGUS'd me pretty darn quickly, and has squirmed at every mention of his joke vote and many times in the last three pages.

 

Has not voted logically. Pounced on Darthe, Hallia and (now) me with little reasoning and no followable narrative in the thread. Wolfy pop-ins, fake "hunting" attitude (accusing people of known false scumtells), etc. etc.

I don't mind attention. I said earlier I welcomed it. Guess your read through wasn't thorough.

 

I don't mind pointing out my reason for my joke vote/ day 1 place holder. I've done it a bunch. I think by the time you asked it was my third/fourth time explaining it.

 

I've never mentioned verb or des being scum. I actually have picked out little nuances I found to be scummy.

 

Such as Lenlo's willing to call out anyone voting or putting des/verb under suspicion.

 

I've called out Hallia's town vs town statement and why I didn't like it.

 

I've pointed out Thane's scummy behavior. That you must agree with on some level as you also find him to be scummy.

 

I've never mentioned darthe. I'm not sure where you pulled that from. Again that's off and completely incorrect.

 

I've never accused anyone of known scum tells. I was asked my opinion on Lenlo and quoted my most recent experience. And further stated I didn't know enough meta on him to say definitively one way or another.

 

So all points so far are false. What else you got big deal?

 

You can say you don't mind attention, but your actions in the thread say otherwise. 

Your reaction is more important than your explanation. TONE analysis is probably the best you're going to get for Day 1, and you failed the toan test pretty hard.

 

No, you haven't pursued lynches on Des or Verbal, just constantly thrown FOSes at them - do you understand that sort of sniping is exactly what's scummy about your behavior?

 

You have your justifications for all of your votes/FOSes, but the vast majority of them are weak. Shotgun voting isn't necessarily scummy, but defense of shotgun voting in a perception issue, not a town trait.

 

Darthe is the player that said Amega's claim was bull - which you falsely attributed to me. So, no you haven't mentioned Darthe, but you have FOSed for saying something he actually said (and I, y'know, didn't).

 

So you pinging out a "OMGUS" vote by Verbal and accusing people of squirming are not scumtells to you? Why would you FOS them for it, then? Why would you even say anything about it, especially in a negative light?

 

So, you ignore my argument, twist reality to support your weak argument, and then say all my points are false. Anything else you'd like to add?

[Lenlo]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:26 AM, Jack_D said:

I noticed at least 4 and that's what I perceived to be happening.

And what your "perceiving" is different from what happened or what I posted.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:23 AM, Jack_D said:

In Corey talk. Lets lynch lily and myself as soon as we flip town and then move on to Ithi and Turin. For those that are skimming.

 

You aren't going to flip town 

[Cory Caboose]

And yes, I would say that after we lynch my #1 scumread I would like to look into my #2 scumread.

 

^ scummy behavior

[Turin Turambar]

Long day at work. I see Cory puked all over the thread. I will try to go back and read that mess now that I am home and on my computer. 

 

 

I see Jack has claimed BG.  I can actually see that being the protective role in the game. Csarmi is one that likes to take out the crutch roles like Doc and Cop and replace them with variants of some sort. 

 

 

I do want to address the entire LOCK CLEAR line of cowflops. Corey is saying that it is done by using in[-game tone etc... blah blah blah. from the games I have seen/ been involved in the clesring comes waaaaay too easily in early game. i see it more as an agreement to not look too hard at each other and basically vote as a block. He says it is because as town these players are too valuable to mislynch early. I say malarkey. it is basically giving a free pass to buddies cause you enjoy playing with them. and it harms the chances of the rest of the players to survive because a handful are simply not going to vote each other because they are in the #alliance. That's my two cents and I will let it go now but I had to say something.

 

I will go and try to see what has happened since lat night now. Not promising to get through it. I need to get to sleep as have another early and long day tomorrow. 

[amegakure]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:27 AM, corycurren said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:23 AM, Jack_D said:

In Corey talk. Lets lynch lily and myself as soon as we flip town and then move on to Ithi and Turin. For those that are skimming.

 

You aren't going to flip town 

 

Do you know something the rest of us dont?

[Sedai]

Lol and when I do flip town you'll go after Ithi and Turin.

 

I haven't fosed verb and des. I actuat peeled away FoS. When people were saying verb was playing jumpy over a couple votes. I said he was to good of a player for that.

 

I FoS anyone going after a claimed investigative role without them getting a chance to be proven or anything.

 

All your points are still just as false as they were initially. A for effort. Keep it up. But I thought you didn't have time?

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:32 AM, Jack_D said:

Lol and when I do flip town you'll go after Ithi and Turin.

 

I haven't fosed verb and des. I actuat peeled away FoS. When people were saying verb was playing jumpy over a couple votes. I said he was to good of a player for that.

 

I FoS anyone going after a claimed investigative role without them getting a chance to be proven or anything.

 

All your points are still just as false as they were initially. A for effort. Keep it up. But I thought you didn't have time?

To reread a 40 page thread at 10 posts per page? Screw that noise.

 

So why aren't you going after Darthe? He's the one who actually made the post you are referring to. Lenlo as well.

[Sedai]

Pot kettle cory.

 

I'm voting and calling out what I think is scum but since it doesn't align with you 100% I'm wrong and scum.

 

So by me saying your scum for not seeing what I see and you continuing the cyclical nature of this argument your calling me out for the same things you are doing.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:31 AM, amegakure said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:27 AM, corycurren said:

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:23 AM, Jack_D said:

In Corey talk. Lets lynch lily and myself as soon as we flip town and then move on to Ithi and Turin. For those that are skimming.

 

You aren't going to flip town 

 

Do you know something the rest of us dont?

 

 

I know everything obvz

[Sedai]

I'm going at Lenlo. In case you didn't notice. And I'm not referencing a specific post. What post are you talking about? I'm talking about a multitude of posts. Only reason I'm pin pointing you is because you asked me to.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:35 AM, Jack_D said:

Pot kettle cory.

 

I'm voting and calling out what I think is scum but since it doesn't align with you 100% I'm wrong and scum.

 

So by me saying your scum for not seeing what I see and you continuing the cyclical nature of this argument your calling me out for the same things you are doing.

 

What do you think is scum? You said Verbal made a OMGUS vote, but you're saying now that it wasn't scummy. Why did you say it?

 

Why aren't you going after Darthe or Lenlo? Your biggest pet peeve are people going after Amega - someone who I believe to be town - this isn't lining up with your actions.

[Lenlo]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:36 AM, Jack_D said:

I'm going at Lenlo. In case you didn't notice. And I'm not referencing a specific post. What post are you talking about? I'm talking about a multitude of posts. Only reason I'm pin pointing you is because you asked me to.

Your not going after me very hard if you are. I hadnt noticed anything aside from you misrepping my words.

[Cory Caboose]

  On 4/1/2014 at 1:30 AM, Turin Turambar said:

Long day at work. I see Cory puked all over the thread. I will try to go back and read that mess now that I am home and on my computer. 

 

 

I see Jack has claimed BG.  I can actually see that being the protective role in the game. Csarmi is one that likes to take out the crutch roles like Doc and Cop and replace them with variants of some sort. 

 

 

I do want to address the entire LOCK CLEAR line of cowflops. Corey is saying that it is done by using in[-game tone etc... blah blah blah. from the games I have seen/ been involved in the clesring comes waaaaay too easily in early game. i see it more as an agreement to not look too hard at each other and basically vote as a block. He says it is because as town these players are too valuable to mislynch early. I say malarkey. it is basically giving a free pass to buddies cause you enjoy playing with them. and it harms the chances of the rest of the players to survive because a handful are simply not going to vote each other because they are in the #alliance. That's my two cents and I will let it go now but I had to say something.

 

I will go and try to see what has happened since lat night now. Not promising to get through it. I need to get to sleep as have another early and long day tomorrow. 

 

Nobody, NOBODY gets a free pass.

 

Why is this so hard to understand?

 

Seriously, this #Alliance stuff was settled in the last game, where Basel at first thought he was going to say I should be barred from future games and then realized what the purpose of my actions where and apologized.

 

You are being obtuse, maybe willfully.

[Cory Caboose]

I wasn't going to play another game here after the repulsion me and Tom received during SW, but csarmi and MIA-Monk asked me to play this game so I did. Leave all your #alliance misconceptions at the door - I'm not voting Des/Verb because they are my top townreads. What do you NOT understand about that?