[Advanced/Experimental] Mass Effect I - Hydra Game - Game Over

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 3/30/2014 at 8:51 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 8:41 PM, Ithillian said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 8:33 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I hate the "Vote now and explain later/let someone else explain/I can't explain my change of vote/I want someone else to do it/don't ask me questions plz" attitude.

 

Still think her interaction with you looked town but this didn't.

You're not really making sense right now.

 

You went from Town to Mafia in an instant. Lily did that yesterday too. Neither sit well with me - but maybe you just being reactionary?

 

What do you honestly think about Jack and Lily? If you think they Town then they voting you for what they think are legit reasons, right?

 

What do you think about Thane and thingummy really? Why do you think they are going to get Lynched - but have a null read on them?

 

 

That was reactionary. I'm fine with saying my Day 1 reads can change, especially they little they are based on. Some are more solid than others but like any read interactions will change them. I don't know what to think about Jack really. I don't know how he usually plays, but it appears it might be with a chip on his shoulder. He still hasn't come in and done any explaining like Lily said he would. I really dislike overconfident players unless their play backs it up (basically almost only Ishy).

People need to be held accountable for votes without explanation, especially if they are town because that hurts us more. I think based on the interaction with you Lily looked town. Therefore to me that balances out to a town read. Not the strongest town read in the world but a town read. If they are town then they should not only share their reasons for voting but their read of the hydras as well.

 

Saying I thought strawhats would be lynched is your interpretation of what I wrote. Everyone in this game can be lynched. Therefore it is possible we will have a flip on anyone. I said the fact that I believe in their reads they only gave a town read to PFG is interesting and that if we knew their alignment their reads list (and this one specifically) would be informative. That's why reads are important. I don't need to explain that to you.

 

I'm going on an fMRI course this week so I wanted to contribute today when I had a bit more time to go through the thread than I will for this week. I will still be around and expect to be active and contributing nonetheless.

 

I don't know why Lily did the voting and Jack did the explaining. I don't see any chip on shoulder ... where did you get that from? He is very good at Mafia however - and he can plan. He's not acted all 'YAY I'M A MAFIA GOD!!!!' though - so again is a strange thing to say.

 

I do recommend you don't trust him though. He's a bit clever.

[Turin Turambar]

Pral do you think Straw hats are likely mafia?

[Sedai]

Rte. you and Strawhats, and Hallia's team are my 1, 2 and 3 for scum

 

I can back my play and I usually do. Like I said your apparent over knowledge of me seemed like a slip.

 

 

Ithi commented that I nudged expertly. That would of been the only comment and how good I'd be as scum.

 

I don't see the apparent need for us to repost a list of players and what they've done that we find scummy or not. It's cliche and it's been done a bunch already. When I have something new to add or something I think I've figured out ill say it. But as of right now. Lily and myself have voted and we've given the reason behind the votes.

 

Your reactionary squirming was very reaffirming to me.

 

However I will ask you.

 

Hallia's comment about town vs town. How'd that read to you? I've been emphatic as to what my opinion was. I'd like to hear yours.

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 3/30/2014 at 8:43 PM, amegakure said:

ithi is wrong. I make silly mistakes in almost every game that make me look like scum.

If you said Lily instead of Hally - and Lily is on your team then you will win the prize for best Amegasm ever.

[Ithillian Turambar]

@ Jack & Lily

 

If you think Thane and Ameg are Mafia ... why the change to RTE with your vote?

 

Yes you think he mafia too - but why not just list him as a suspect and keep the pressure on Thane & Ameg?

[Turin Turambar]

  On 3/30/2014 at 8:43 PM, amegakure said:

ithi is wrong. I make silly mistakes in almost every game that make me look like scum. The fact that you have no way of knowing my mafia meta since i havent been mafia since my dm return is troubling. Also camping on the thread over the weekend while my life keeps me occupied isnt exactly scum hunting. I reply to question when i have the time and or sobriety.. 

 

Also whats wrong with thane asking my opinion. didnt you just try to call us out for having differing opinions on teams. It's a never ending battle with you guys

 

des/verb seem distant not much swag coming from that direction but got a town lean.

 

Ithi/turin. Are aggravating but also more of the most active players.

 

Jack/lily havent seen much from these guys besides a response to wifum. seems like there isnt much conviction there. 

 

Clarthe. watching the show from the sidelines. 

 

rte got a scum read on them. 

 

pfg...null havent seen much play

 

leelou. is null as well. 

first. If you make silly mistakes in EVERY game then you do it as mafia too right? you still aren't denying that you make those mistakes , just stating that you do it regardless of alignment. I don't think that you were being called out for lurking or inactivity by Ithi. Odd that you chose that route to cast doubt on her. 

 

He can simply say that these are HIS reads and that yours may vary. Especially if you haven't discussed them. by giving his true reads immediately it is more likely that if he is mafia he is going to do something that a new player roled mafia would do. avoid taking a stance on a teammate, trying to paint them as too town. etc.. the fact he was unwilling is telling.

 

Only RTE is a mafia lean. there are few others not listed. I guess they are null? 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Oh yes. I never said anything about him not being about much. I wonder why he said that I did.

 

Not many people have been about much hence ---> le weekend, but I don't mind. I don't think I've ever called anyone out for inactivity cos you know - people all play different and that's cool.

 

It's even in my rules when I host the odd game.

 

Yup ... feel free to camp away. I'm not going to stop you.

[Lenlo]

YOU READY FOR THIS?!? I ACTUALLY PUT WORK INTO IT AND MISSED MY LAUNDRY TIMER!!

[Ithillian Turambar]

Your avatar looks like someone shoved a sword through the back of your head and it's burst out through your forehead.

 

There should be all blood and stuff on it.

[Lenlo]

p1&2 All the jokes.

 

p3 All the yolo. Tempted to lynch Des just for using that so much.

 

p4 More jokes

 

p5 turin votes Verb, Verb calls him out on going for an "easy lynch", Turin asks if Des knows Verb is using AtE. slight ping on Turin, as I dont think that was a well founded accusation of AtE and his reaction was bleh.

 

p6 Verb calls turin out for exactly what im talking about.

 

p7 Ithi does some subtle def of Turin, but that is expected as they are a team.

 

p8 More jokes. Tina uses the jokes as a way to hide a vote on Des/Verb. This would be the 3rd vote. Slight ping for that.

 

p9 more jokes. Lots of people ignoring what little has gone on, me included. :P

 

p10 Leelou changes Tina and hers vote to Clarthe for no reason. Joke vote? Doesnt respond with an actual reason for the vote when Cloud asks her why.

AJ votes Des/Verb for no reason as well though he got no heat for it, making them the new 3rd vote. Ping.

 

p11 ((summary)) Dap says Cloud got twitchy when voted and his reaction to Leelous vote makes him a better lynch target. Lily comes in and starts to subtly back up what Dap is saying. As does Jack. Not sure how I feel about this. I like Daps reaction/call out of Cloud and dont like Darthes later post.

 

p12 Turin asks Verb why he/Des arnt voting him if they think he is mafia. I switch my avatar to the manliest thing ever. Amega agrees with Daps reasoning on Cloud and his reactions and doesnt like Verbs reaction to Turin. Like turins reactions, staying calm and responding. Ithi calls Lily out on question Cloud about his concerns for votes but not Verbs. Double Standard? Ping.

 

Despo calls Ithi/Turin scum for turin trying to turn a joke vote into an actual scumread. This feels like town on town violence. Ithi says Cloud is being reasonable making him mafia and Cloud says he is always that way. Classic def as scum imo.

 

p13 Des is amusing with his WoTs. Still feel like Ithi v Des is town on town fighting. Ithi calls out RTE for nudging, which he was. BAD RTE! *Twap* Thane is getting a scummy vive off me/RTE and will be watching Ithi/Turin and Verb/Des yet votes Lily/Jack?

 

P14 Ithi calls Thane out for nudging and reread post. Like that. Cloud switchs to Thane. Going for an easy deflect of attention? Turin votes Verb/Des for Despos WoT. Still feels like town v town to me. Calls me and RTE baddies D:

I ask Turin why and he responds with RTEs posts on prev page which I twapped him for.

 

Halli comes in and votes Thane/Amega for his nudges then disappears again. Ping? Leelou votes Ithi/Turin with no reasoning. Jack makes a WoT basically calling out things that were called out before. Cloud shoves so much crap into a single post like this: 

 

  On 3/29/2014 at 4:21 PM, _CLOUD said:

 

I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary about RTE's play so far. Turin appears to be lost in his tunnel and is starting to look worse. I don't like how he first pointed out how scummy Thane was and then went back to disect an older post from Despo as if he for a moment forgot that he should actually be going after him. His most recent post reads frantic to me and Despo's humor seems to be lost on him. I like Hallia's vote, but I'm not a fan of Leelou's just because she refuses to explain anything again. Jack first agreeing with Dap and now slightly pushing against Krak is weird.

 

 

More pings. Feeling bad about Clarthe right now.

 

P15 lots of jokes.

 

p16 Amega agrees with Lily thinking that Ithi/Turin and Verb/Des is town on town violence but I dont remember lily saying anything of the sort. Ithi also calls him out on this. Trying to save a scummate? Then votes RTE/Me for RTE's nudges while not saying anything about thanes, his partner. Ping.

 

Turin gives a list of Reads. Seems to be tunneling on Verb/Des and I htink thats bad, but still think its town on town. Has a town read on BFG/Pral even though they have done NOTHING. Thane makes a WoT and Votes me/RTE without adding anything to the case at all. Bandwagon? Ping.

 

p17 Lots of jokes. Prals first real post of the game. I like it. Its a WoT. Votes Leelou/Tina. I like it.

 

p18 Lily looks to be doing alot of damage control and avoiding some question with questions of her own. She also nudges. Ping ping. she also thinks Des/Verb are scum whom I think are town.

 

p19 Lily finds Amega/Thane scummy. Distancing? Lily makes some ambiguous statements ((Thanks for the word Turin)) Dont like it. Jack pops in and does Damage control. Tina pops in for first time in awhile. Posts nothing of value.

 

p20 Turin/Ithi start asking alot of questions to people, most having to do with their opinions of me/RTE and my popping up for jokes. Thinks im lurking. Lily calls Ithi mafia. 

  On 3/29/2014 at 11:17 PM, LilyElizabeth said:

 

Jack's instincts are way better than mine, which is the only reason I'm not switching our vote.

 

Uses this as an excuse to not vote Ithi. Ping.

 

p21 More questions. More Rehashing. I respond with why im popping up. Promise a reread and post ((This! :D))

 

p21 Some jokes. Crappy list from Thane. Doesnt put a read on anything. ithi calls him cautios. 

 

p22 Turin/Ithi call thane out for his crappy list. More memes.

 

p23 Jokes

 

p24 RTE makes a WoT. I disagree with some of his reads. Agree with others. He votes Leelou/Tina for us. I am ok with that, they are on my scum list. Im not used to sharing a vote >.>

 

AJ leans town on Ithi/Turin and Darthe/Cloud. Buddying to power players? Darthe votes Thane. I like the vote but I dont like Darthe this game. Could be distancing as Thane doesnt have to much of a chance of being lynched atm, no train so its a safe vote. Also a safe spot to hide if we lynch Thane and he flips scum. null from that. Tina votes Amega/Thane. Darthe wants to lynch us.

 

p26 Ithi demands a legit post from me ((This work love?)) Or else she will make it a mission to lynch me. With pink rope. Lily trys to jump onto RTE/Me by mimicking others thoughts without anything of her own even though she trusts Jack intuition more than hers. ((Mentioned earlier can find if wanted.)) RTE posts silly things. Tempted to lynch him if his life wasnt tied to mine. Just stop talking mate. :P Amega uses the classic "But I always do this!" Defense. Still leaning scum on him.

 

 

Leaning scum:

Cloud/Darthe - Scum

Tina/Leelou - Scum

Thane/Amega - Scum

 

Null:

Jack/Lily - Could lean one way or the other. Like Jacks play but not Lilies. This is a unique situation for me to have to combine two reads like this.

Hallia/X - Not much to go one besides some weak posts.

Cory/Monk - No idea.

AJ/TG - Made some scummy posts earlier. Made some towny posts later. Kinda cancels each other out for now.

 

Leaning Town:

BFG/Pral - Post more! But what has been posted makes me lean town.

Dap/Krak - Like the cut of your jib.

Turin/Ithi - think town on town violence with Despo/Verb and like your scumhunting. Im also very bad at telling when Ithi is scum though so *shrug*

RTE/Lenlo - Me! :D

Verb/Des - town on town violence. 

 

 

##vote StrawHats ((Amega/Thane)) They have the highest train of people I think are scum.

[Lenlo]

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:27 PM, Ithillian said:

Your avatar looks like someone shoved a sword through the back of your head and it's burst out through your forehead.

 

There should be all blood and stuff on it.

Blame Dap. He found it and now I have to use it.

[Ithillian Turambar]

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**Quoting from email cos I'm lazy**

 

Cloud shoves so much crap into a single post like this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I haven't seen anything out of the ordinary about RTE's play so far. Turin appears to be lost in his tunnel and is starting to look worse. I don't like how he first pointed out how scummy Thane was and then went back to disect an older post from Despo as if he for a moment forgot that he should actually be going after him. His most recent post reads frantic to me and Despo's humor seems to be lost on him. I like Hallia's vote, but I'm not a fan of Leelou's just because she refuses to explain anything again. Jack first agreeing with Dap and now slightly pushing against Krak is weird.**

 

 

I just totally cracked up laughing at this part.

 

Ok I'll go and read the rest.

[Lenlo]

Even my attempts at being serious amuse!

[Ithillian Turambar]

I think that was a good post.

 

Thank you.

 

I shall not be Lynching you today unless you drop a total young male cow.

 

I can add the blood to your avatar if you like.

[Lenlo]

Just noticed the Lily quote was messed up.

 

  On 3/29/2014 at 11:17 PM, LilyElizabeth said:

Jack's instincts are way better than mine, which is the only reason I'm not switching our vote.

 

 

 

This is it.

[Turin Turambar]

Len. legit post. 

 

 

Don't call Ithi "love". 

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:29 PM, Lenlo said:

Turin/Ithi - think town on town violence with Despo/Verb and like your scumhunting. Im also very bad at telling when Ithi is scum though so *shrug*

I see your little nudge on me.

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

I shall put the pink rope away.

[Lenlo]

Nah. Its the manliest unicorn youve ever seen.

  On 3/29/2014 at 5:45 AM, dapianoplay3r said:

 

  On 3/29/2014 at 3:01 AM, Lenlo said:

Hey now man, im not a horse. If anything im a unicorn. The manliest unicorn youve ever seen.
 

  On 3/29/2014 at 2:58 AM, corycurren said:

You guys are clearly pro-tier

Oh gawd, dont tell them that. their egos dont need any more inflating. :P

 

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See? Still Daps fault though.

[Lenlo]

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:40 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Len. legit post. 

 

 

Don't call Ithi "love". 

Alright... Love.

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:41 PM, Ithillian said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:29 PM, Lenlo said:

Turin/Ithi - think town on town violence with Despo/Verb and like your scumhunting. Im also very bad at telling when Ithi is scum though so *shrug*

I see your little nudge on me.

 

 

Sorry, even when being serious I cant help it.

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:43 PM, Ithillian said:

I shall put the pink rope away.

*Sigh of relief.*

[Turin Turambar]

Smart donkey. 

 

Len I think your vote is putting them at L-2. you think they are still not likely to be lynched?

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:44 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:40 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Len. legit post. 

 

 

Don't call Ithi "love". 

Alright... Love.

 

 

Now you sound like Captain Jack Sparrow in my head.

 

 

Pirate. Savvy?

 

 

 

*edited for quote formatting error.

[Lenlo]

Those comments were made as I went along with the read. As I said though if they did get lynched thats a safe place for fellow scum to be on the train.

[Lenlo]

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:48 PM, Ithillian said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:44 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 3/30/2014 at 9:40 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Len. legit post. 

 

 

Don't call Ithi "love". 

 

Alright... Love.

Now you sound like Captain Jack Sparrow in my head.

 

 

Pirate. Savvy?

 

 

Thats a good pirate to sound like.

[LilyElizabeth]

  On 3/30/2014 at 8:51 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

That was reactionary. I'm fine with saying my Day 1 reads can change, especially they little they are based on. Some are more solid than others but like any read interactions will change them. I don't know what to think about Jack really. I don't know how he usually plays, but it appears it might be with a chip on his shoulder. He still hasn't come in and done any explaining like Lily said he would. I really dislike overconfident players unless their play backs it up (basically almost only Ishy).

First of all, I said he could if he wanted. That's a ways from "would." And secondly, he did, so your statement is false. And you wonder why you're getting voted?