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Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:34 PM, Despothera said:

Overall, this is some strange wording

 
That warrants attention

 

Do you have anything to comment on the actual reasons I wrote, on why I think you are pushing it?

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  On 4/2/2014 at 6:31 PM, Pralaya said:

 

Wow, already at L-3.

 

Yes, my read on Thane was wrong. As Turin mentioned, I understood the case against them but I wrongfully assumed that the slips were due to newbieness. It is clear now that it wasn't because of that and I was wrong. Most of my reads during my Day 1 was based on that assumption.

 

That is the reason I went after Ithi/Turin because I thought they were pushing hard a lynch who I thought was town. It does look bad in hingsight but there were already other things that were already going on for my vote to be actually a distraction. Cory was already going after Jack long before I voted Ithi/Turin and if it was actually my intention to prevent lynch on SH, I could have joined that train which was already at 3 votes. I voted Turin because I felt he was actually scum at that point.

 

Finally, I am surprised at how quickly today's trains have been pushed. Especially by those who were not even present in the scum lynch. Alien/Jailkeeper is one of the strongest role that scum could have and the day almost went to a non-lynch, Cory was conveniently not available to hammer them. J-Tag was absent and nowhere to be found during deadline. Verbal was available but did not vote. It was pointed out by Ithi too Verbal gave the excuse that he was re-reading (Co-incidence or not, they are the ones on my train right now)

 

In fact, Verbal was trying to nudge me and set me up since yesterday. When Ithi pointed out why I had not given a read on Amega (which I had earlier), Verbal jumped qickly to agree with her. Ithi had asked it because she was on the phone and had not read my post on SH, but I am pretty sure Verbal had and that nudge looked bad because of it.

 

Overall, I feel that verb/des is pushing a convenient train on us. I had a wrong read on Thane to be town due to his newbieness and that was the cause for my votes.

So bizarre that in this entire post, the names TG, AJ, or J-TAG never appear lol

 

Only time he references them he its only cryptically- "the other train", and funny thing is you'd think if he would comment on anyone's vote on him it would have been the FIRST vote on him, from AJ.

 

Instead he chooses to fos me and Verb the whole time, even tho we're not the countertrain lol.

 

Obvious scum is obvious. :happy:

 

Tell me Pray, what do you think of AJ's vote on you?

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:34 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:31 PM, Pralaya said:

Overall, I feel that verb/des is pushing a convenient train on us.

Overall, this is some strange wording

That warrants attention

I was seriously about to write this.

 

Mindmeld. Monkmeld?

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:38 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:34 PM, Despothera said:

 

Overall, this is some strange wording

 

That warrants attention

Do you have anything to comment on the actual reasons I wrote, on why I think you are pushing it?

Part of the reason I voted for you in the first place was to reaction test you.

 

You FaileD. Big time.

 

And if you were town and not scum misrepping, you'd know the one Verb and I were most interested in lynching today before daybreak was ES.

 

So you trying to suggest we were laying the foundation to push your lynch is complete malarkey

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:40 PM, Despothera said:

 

So bizarre that in this entire post, the names TG, AJ, or J-TAG never appear lol

 

Only time he references them he its only cryptically- "the other train", and funny thing is you'd think if he would comment on anyone's vote on him it would have been the FIRST vote on him, from AJ.

 

Instead he chooses to fos me and Verb the whole time, even tho we're not the countertrain lol.

 

Obvious scum is obvious. :happy:

 

Tell me Pray, what do you think of AJ's vote on you?

 

 

Fourth paragraph, where I mention how J-Tag was missing from the scum lynch, just like you.

 

I FoSed because your actions were suspicious. Both from yesterday and today. I was planning to mention that today anyway when i was online, but then I saw that you had already started voting me.

 

AJ's vote on me is indeed weird and it is opportunistic too. But, it is expected since he is voting for the competent train.

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:47 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:40 PM, Despothera said:

 

So bizarre that in this entire post, the names TG, AJ, or J-TAG never appear lol

 

Only time he references them he its only cryptically- "the other train", and funny thing is you'd think if he would comment on anyone's vote on him it would have been the FIRST vote on him, from AJ.

 

Instead he chooses to fos me and Verb the whole time, even tho we're not the countertrain lol.

 

Obvious scum is obvious. :happy:

 

Tell me Pray, what do you think of AJ's vote on you?

 

Fourth paragraph, where I mention how J-Tag was missing from the scum lynch, just like you.

 

I FoSed because your actions were suspicious. Both from yesterday and today. I was planning to mention that today anyway when i was online, but then I saw that you had already started voting me.

 

AJ's vote on me is indeed weird and it is opportunistic too. But, it is expected since he is voting for the competent train.

Lol dude he voted for you first

 

:laugh:

 

He MADE you the competing train

 

Yet you pretty much choose to ignore him in favor of the LOCK CLEAR Hydra

 

:hopper:

 

^ you howling

 

:tongue:

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:43 PM, Despothera said:

And if you were town and not scum misrepping, you'd know the one Verb and I were most interested in lynching today before daybreak was ES.

So you trying to suggest we were laying the foundation to push your lynch is complete malarkey

 

 

How would I assume that? I mentioned the posts where Verbal was trying to nudge me. It was in the same tone as the replies he was giving Jack. 

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:50 PM, Despothera said:

Lol dude he voted for you first

:laugh:

 

He MADE you the competing train

 

 

Exactly my point. People were already behind the two teams. It was obvious that he had to shift the vote.

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:52 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:43 PM, Despothera said:

 

And if you were town and not scum misrepping, you'd know the one Verb and I were most interested in lynching today before daybreak was ES.

So you trying to suggest we were laying the foundation to push your lynch is complete malarkey

 

How would I assume that? I mentioned the posts where Verbal was trying to nudge me. It was in the same tone as the replies he was giving Jack.

You picked one cherry out of an orchard

 

And in doing so exposed yourself

 

And botching the distancing attempt at the same time

 

:hopper:

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:51 PM, _CLOUD said:

So you have a town read on AJ?

 

No, looking like scum, as I mentioned in my post. Not as strong feeling as I have on verb/des, based on their nudging and setting up.

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:53 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:50 PM, Despothera said:

 

Lol dude he voted for you first

:laugh:

 

He MADE you the competing train

 

 

Exactly my point. People were already behind the two teams. It was obvious that he had to shift the vote.

:rolleyes:

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:54 PM, Despothera said:

You picked one cherry out of an orchard

And in doing so exposed yourself

 

And botching the distancing attempt at the same time

 

:hopper:

 

 

One cherry? Did you even read my post? I gave out many more reasons and not just the nudge.

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:54 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:51 PM, _CLOUD said:

So you have a town read on AJ?

 

No, looking like scum, as I mentioned in my post. Not as strong feeling as I have on verb/des, based on their nudging and setting up.

 

 

Right so why aren't you voting for them and are instead going after Verb/Des who apparently everyone except you and AJ/TG read as town?

Posted

My main feeling came when I saw how Verbal failed to vote Thane even when he was online. Why would he delay the vote? At that point, Jack was the only one active among us and it was looking like going to a no-lynch, 

 

Second, it isn't co-incidence that all the three votes on me right now are people who were absent from the scum lynch.

 

Then, both you and Verbal have been talking about both jack and me/BFG since the lynch. Trying to push the next day.

 

It is the combination of all these which is making me FOS you.

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:57 PM, _CLOUD said:

 

Right so why aren't you voting for them and are instead going after Verb/Des who apparently everyone except you and AJ/TG read as town?

 

 

Because, as I said, of my strong feeling on them. You can ask your question back yourself. Why would I try to defend myself by going after someone who others read as town for no apparent reason? Wouldn't that backfire on me? I am going because I feel they are obvious. 

Posted

Votecount 2.03

 

J-TAG (3) - Sexy Sisters, Clarthe, RTL

PFG (3) - J-TAG, Yolo, CRUNK

YoloHashSWag (1) - PFG

 

Not voting: everyone else

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Deadline-D2

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 6:31 PM, Pralaya said:

 

Wow, already at L-3.
 
Yes, my read on Thane was wrong. As Turin mentioned, I understood the case against them but I wrongfully assumed that the slips were due to newbieness. It is clear now that it wasn't because of that and I was wrong. Most of my reads during my Day 1 was based on that assumption. 
 
That is the reason I went after Ithi/Turin because I thought they were pushing hard a lynch who I thought was town. It does look bad in hingsight but there were already other things that were already going on for my vote to be actually a distraction. Cory was already going after Jack long before I voted Ithi/Turin and if it was actually my intention to prevent lynch on SH, I could have joined that train which was already at 3 votes. I voted Turin because I felt he was actually scum at that point.
 
Finally, I am surprised at how quickly today's trains have been pushed. Especially by those who were not even present in the scum lynch. Alien/Jailkeeper is one of the strongest role that scum could have and the day almost went to a non-lynch, Cory was conveniently not available to hammer them. J-Tag was absent and nowhere to be found during deadline. Verbal was available but did not vote. It was pointed out by Ithi too Verbal gave the excuse that he was re-reading (Co-incidence or not, they are the ones on my train right now)
 
In fact, Verbal was trying to nudge me and set me up since yesterday. When Ithi pointed out why I had not given a read on Amega (which I had earlier), Verbal jumped qickly to agree with her. Ithi had asked it because she was on the phone and had not read my post on SH, but I am pretty sure Verbal had and that nudge looked bad because of it. 
 
Overall, I feel that verb/des is pushing a convenient train on us. I had a wrong read on Thane to be town due to his newbieness and that was the cause for my votes. 

 

 

Aiight, so Pral comes in with a pretty reasonable post, IMO.  My hydra-partner hasn't liked Pral's posts, I haven't liked BFG's as much but think Pral is solid so far.

 

The one thing Pral doesn't mention is that the SH train had stalled completely 3 hrs before DL.  Also, there was no reason to be forced into a hammer since there is no modkill penalty this game for not achieving a lynch.  Pral went ahead and restarted the train on SH anyways.  If it weren't for that I doubt SH would have gotten lynched yesterday.

 

As far as I'm concerned that lessens my scum lean on PFG significantly.  Voting counts a lot more than empty words.

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:32 PM, Pralaya said:

##vote YoloHashSwag 

 

Because of my reasoning above

 

I could get behind this.

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:40 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:31 PM, Pralaya said:

Wow, already at L-3.

 

Yes, my read on Thane was wrong. As Turin mentioned, I understood the case against them but I wrongfully assumed that the slips were due to newbieness. It is clear now that it wasn't because of that and I was wrong. Most of my reads during my Day 1 was based on that assumption.

 

That is the reason I went after Ithi/Turin because I thought they were pushing hard a lynch who I thought was town. It does look bad in hingsight but there were already other things that were already going on for my vote to be actually a distraction. Cory was already going after Jack long before I voted Ithi/Turin and if it was actually my intention to prevent lynch on SH, I could have joined that train which was already at 3 votes. I voted Turin because I felt he was actually scum at that point.

 

Finally, I am surprised at how quickly today's trains have been pushed. Especially by those who were not even present in the scum lynch. Alien/Jailkeeper is one of the strongest role that scum could have and the day almost went to a non-lynch, Cory was conveniently not available to hammer them. J-Tag was absent and nowhere to be found during deadline. Verbal was available but did not vote. It was pointed out by Ithi too Verbal gave the excuse that he was re-reading (Co-incidence or not, they are the ones on my train right now)

 

In fact, Verbal was trying to nudge me and set me up since yesterday. When Ithi pointed out why I had not given a read on Amega (which I had earlier), Verbal jumped qickly to agree with her. Ithi had asked it because she was on the phone and had not read my post on SH, but I am pretty sure Verbal had and that nudge looked bad because of it.

 

Overall, I feel that verb/des is pushing a convenient train on us. I had a wrong read on Thane to be town due to his newbieness and that was the cause for my votes.

So bizarre that in this entire post, the names TG, AJ, or J-TAG never appear lol

 

Only time he references them he its only cryptically- "the other train", and funny thing is you'd think if he would comment on anyone's vote on him it would have been the FIRST vote on him, from AJ.

 

Instead he chooses to fos me and Verb the whole time, even tho we're not the countertrain lol.

 

Obvious scum is obvious. :happy:

 

Tell me Pray, what do you think of AJ's vote on you?

 

 

Despo this is just gross.  I mentioned already how you were disagreeing with yourself.  And now you do this.  I hope you're fishing for reactions because you quote Prals post then blatantly mis-rep it.  And then you move the goal-posts: see below

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:43 PM, Despothera said:

Part of the reason I voted for you in the first place was to reaction test you.

You FaileD. Big time.

 

And if you were town and not scum misrepping, you'd know the one Verb and I were most interested in lynching today before daybreak was ES.

 

So you trying to suggest we were laying the foundation to push your lynch is complete malarkey

 

 

Pral links to the post where Verb mentioned them as scum and says they should be lynched and then you shift the argument to how you wanted ES as top lynch rather than addressing the point of what was said. 

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:50 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:47 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:40 PM, Despothera said:

So bizarre that in this entire post, the names TG, AJ, or J-TAG never appear lol

 

Only time he references them he its only cryptically- "the other train", and funny thing is you'd think if he would comment on anyone's vote on him it would have been the FIRST vote on him, from AJ.

 

Instead he chooses to fos me and Verb the whole time, even tho we're not the countertrain lol.

 

Obvious scum is obvious. :happy:

 

Tell me Pray, what do you think of AJ's vote on you?

Fourth paragraph, where I mention how J-Tag was missing from the scum lynch, just like you.

 

I FoSed because your actions were suspicious. Both from yesterday and today. I was planning to mention that today anyway when i was online, but then I saw that you had already started voting me.

 

AJ's vote on me is indeed weird and it is opportunistic too. But, it is expected since he is voting for the competent train.

Lol dude he voted for you first

 

:laugh:

 

He MADE you the competing train

 

Yet you pretty much choose to ignore him in favor of the LOCK CLEAR Hydra

 

:hopper:

 

^ you howling

 

:tongue:

 

 

You're only lock clear in your own head.   

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:51 PM, _CLOUD said:

So you have a town read on AJ?

 

Leading question is scummy.

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 7:20 PM, TGlems said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 6:31 PM, Pralaya said:

 

Wow, already at L-3.
 
Yes, my read on Thane was wrong. As Turin mentioned, I understood the case against them but I wrongfully assumed that the slips were due to newbieness. It is clear now that it wasn't because of that and I was wrong. Most of my reads during my Day 1 was based on that assumption. 
 
That is the reason I went after Ithi/Turin because I thought they were pushing hard a lynch who I thought was town. It does look bad in hingsight but there were already other things that were already going on for my vote to be actually a distraction. Cory was already going after Jack long before I voted Ithi/Turin and if it was actually my intention to prevent lynch on SH, I could have joined that train which was already at 3 votes. I voted Turin because I felt he was actually scum at that point.
 
Finally, I am surprised at how quickly today's trains have been pushed. Especially by those who were not even present in the scum lynch. Alien/Jailkeeper is one of the strongest role that scum could have and the day almost went to a non-lynch, Cory was conveniently not available to hammer them. J-Tag was absent and nowhere to be found during deadline. Verbal was available but did not vote. It was pointed out by Ithi too Verbal gave the excuse that he was re-reading (Co-incidence or not, they are the ones on my train right now)
 
In fact, Verbal was trying to nudge me and set me up since yesterday. When Ithi pointed out why I had not given a read on Amega (which I had earlier), Verbal jumped qickly to agree with her. Ithi had asked it because she was on the phone and had not read my post on SH, but I am pretty sure Verbal had and that nudge looked bad because of it. 
 
Overall, I feel that verb/des is pushing a convenient train on us. I had a wrong read on Thane to be town due to his newbieness and that was the cause for my votes. 

 

 

Aiight, so Pral comes in with a pretty reasonable post, IMO.  My hydra-partner hasn't liked Pral's posts, I haven't liked BFG's as much but think Pral is solid so far.

 

The one thing Pral doesn't mention is that the SH train had stalled completely 3 hrs before DL.  Also, there was no reason to be forced into a hammer since there is no modkill penalty this game for not achieving a lynch.  Pral went ahead and restarted the train on SH anyways.  If it weren't for that I doubt SH would have gotten lynched yesterday.

 

As far as I'm concerned that lessens my scum lean on PFG significantly.  Voting counts a lot more than empty words.

 

That's a pretty valid point actually, good catch. I hadn't considered that very much but seeing how SH flipped with such a strong role it really wouldn't make sense to bus like that when NL would have kept their partner alive for another day.

 

  On 4/1/2014 at 3:54 PM, csarmi said:

Vote Count - 1.15

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Straw Hats (7) - Clarthe, HaXorz, WIFUM, SexySisters, RTL, PFG, Evil Siblings

Sexy Sisters (1) - Strawhats

Evil Siblings (3) - YoloHashSwag, Spliffanity, CRUNK

not voting : J-TAG

 

That's a lynch. Scene incoming.

 

FTR, my vote should have been on Evil Sibs. I got word through my PM that since I didn't have the word 'vote' to accopany my hashtags when I typed ##Evil Sibs, it didn't count. But whatever.

 

So there were 4 of us on the counter wagon including myself: #Yolo, Spliff, CRUNK.

 

Out of those I would put them in order as:

 

Spliff

CRUNK

#Yolo

 

Still reading the SS girls as a little sketchy, so SH having their vote on them when they got lynched looks weird to me.

Posted
  On 4/2/2014 at 3:23 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 3:14 PM, corycurren said:

Thing that really locks me clear on Clarthe is his reaction to the Jack/Amega exchange that was somehow genuine.

 

Clarthe points how fake it is on both sides - which it seemed to almost everyone ATM - and uses that to try and bury SH rather than to try and make a case on ES, which would have had credence. With both flips known... This is sorta a big deal :D

 

Killing ES was a major mistake by the Maf, which makes me wonder of the killer got redirected or something of that nature. ES would have been a major distraction today and probably a mislynch, and bodyguards aren't super PRs the way doctors are.

 

Mafia didn't NK ES

 

Pretty much confirmed that they didn't incidentally, since ES flipped as a powered BG of some kind. Had mafia targeted them with the NK, most likely they would have died along with them.

 

ES prob just wisely chose who mafia was gonna NK. I'm thinking they went for WiFuM imo. Notice how J-TAG didn't really put out any posts mentioning or responding to Ithi or Turin? They prob thought they were gonna be dead soon.

 

Pretty sure they didn't try targeting us

 

But yeah, Clarthe is close to (or wait mebbe already is on mah list  :unsure: ) LOCK CLEAR

 

TMI?? NK spec is muddy at best. Really not liking how you are trying to push the angle that WiFuM was the likely NK target and how you're trying to tie it to me.

 

  On 4/2/2014 at 4:24 PM, Leelou said:

At that point, the ES looked bad. I was ready to at least vote them come morning from their play around the claim and lynch. They died and turned up what they claimed. You are blowing my posts right after a scum lynch out of proportion. 

 

I can agree, I would've likely lynched them too. I wasn't just talking about them though, or after their coroner was finally revealed.

 

What happened to the scum read you had on CRUNK when someone listed them with ES and SH as the mafia team?

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