[Advanced] House MD Mafia - Mafia Victory!

[dicetosser1]

actually i made a mistake with you and only said what darthe said.

 

lets save time  got 18 hrs to find an actually mafia member

 

i am Dr Darryl Nolan Vanilla

 

Mish what are your thoughts on hallia now? Who else do you think is mafia  and no i really am not mafia

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Dice (2) - Hallia, TG, Mish

TG (2) - Tommy, Peace

 

Not Voting (6) - Turin, Rags, BFG, Lenlo, Dice

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

 

 

Deadline: Monday, March 10 @ 9PM CDT (Approximately 13.5 hours)

http://www.timeandda...sg=End of Day 4

[keyholder21]

[BFG]

Sorry for absence this weekend, I was at my parents (and forgot how hard it is to get uninterrupted time to do anthing) and we had an unexpected powercut last night (unexpected by me anyway, apparantly our energy company thought 8pm on a Sunday was an excellent time for a powercut )
Anyways, haven't had time to reread the thread in full, but will work on iso's.

In short, Mish is a bad lynch anytime and Dice voting her (in essentially an OMGUS vote) looks really bad. 

I also think that Hallia, Lenlo and Tommy are bad lynches today, although worth keeping an eye on.  Hallia and Lenlo have both been LD tested and came up as Town, although the possibility for a ST exists, even if one of them is a ST there are at least 2 more amongst the rest of you.  I also think that given how hard Tommy pushed Wombat that he's a bad lynch today, although not clear. I'll also say that Lenlo's reaction on Day 3 felt genuine (townie annoyance and confusion over counter claims) and also that Hallia looks more townie (but that is with strong confirmation bias).

That leaves (for me) Kaylee/Dice, Peace, Turin, Amega/Rags and TG.

Thoughts before iso are that Dice isn't looking any better to me now than he was Day 2 when I voted him. 

A few things, Darthe initially stated that he had Dice as mafia and later switched this to he was 'testing' Dice.  As a voyeur he can't have anything on Dice, as he watches a player and learns what actions were performed on them, not who did them.  Darthe also said that if Wombat flipped mafia then he thought he could clear Dice, unfortunately without more information, this is only speculation. 

So far Dice has voted Pral (day 1), missed the vote day 2 and started day 2 with that comment about AJs NK, voted me day 3 and Mish day 4.  He's also pushing Hallia now to Mish, without voting her himself which I find pretty scummy. 


TG took heat Day 1 and has since sort of disappeared.  Voted me initially then joined the train on Wombat

Peace missed Day 3, but it was very short - Mish reads him as Town for the moment. Without a reread the chief thing that sticks out to me is his voting with his top mafia suspect, I don't recall anything  in his posting that would account for this change.

Turin has been very absent, which concerns me.  (think he responded to me about reads, I dropped it a while ago since my Day 1 reads were awful)

Rags replaced Amega who'd been looking pretty bad to me (on my initial attempt at a reread, i'd got up to Amegas nudge on Des (it may have been meant as a joke, but it came amid non-joke voting, so looks bad), Amega came in with that 'nothing worth commenting on' comment.  Rags came in with a reread that looked good, but I think that his suspects have either flipped Town or have been LD tested.  I think that Tommy and Rags have more or less ignored each other on thread, and this concerns me somwhat.
So from memory Dice, Peace and Rags are looking bad.
 

Also quickly looking at the Day 3 trains.
BFG (5): Wombat, Lenlo, Darthe, Hallia, TG
Dice (1): Tommy

Then I claim,
BFG (5): Wombat, Lenlo, Darthe, Hallia, TG
Dice (1): Tommy
Wombat (1): BFG

Lenlo unvotes
BFG (4): Wombat, Lenlo, Darthe, Hallia, TG
Dice (1): Tommy
Wombat (1): BFG

Darthe says my claim looks fake, Lenlo agrees - at this point the lynch is very much headed my way until Mish backs up my gifted view.  Darthe decides to test Wombat instead of me, followed by Tommy. Mish is saying that she thinks it's possible that this is a mafia gambit by Wombat and myself.
BFG (3): Wombat, Lenlo, Darthe, Hallia, TG
Wombat (3): BFG, Darthe, Tommy

Then Dice weighs in, voting me
BFG (4): Wombat, Lenlo, Darthe, Hallia, TG, Dice
Wombat (3): BFG, Darthe, Tommy

Mish sees my LD claim
BFG (4): Wombat, Lenlo, Darthe, Hallia, TG, Dice
Wombat (4): BFG, Darthe, Tommy, Mish

And TG, Hallia and Lenlo seal the deal.
BFG (2): Wombat, Lenlo, Darthe, Hallia, TG, Dice
Wombat (7): BFG, Darthe, Tommy, Mish, TG, Hallia, Lenlo.

Turin, Peace and Rags miss the day.

Not sure how to interpret this, Dice seemed to try to swing the votes back to Wombat. Darthe, Mish and TG were the votes (and words) that swung the vote towards Wombat imo.  But if I'd been lynched Wombat would have been a proven liar (especially after his House claim) so people choosing to believe him would look bad now.

A bunch of people also voted Wombat before his claim on Day 2, I want to look through those again, I think Tommy, Darthe, Des, TG, Mish, Turin (with his derp vote and unvote moment), I need to check this though.

[BFG]

ISO on Kaylee/Dice

I'm making notes in notepad instead of responding to quotes individually, not sure how this format will work.

 

 

Kaylee:

A little bit of banter at the beginning.

 

The warrants at comment doesn't look good, as she never follows through. Of interest is that she likes Hallias initial list of reads, whereas most people have called her out for them. This seems more conciliatory than anything else, if Kaylee/Dice do flip mafia than I think it more likely that Hallia isn't a ST.

 

The start of her list of reads: Peace - Town, Turin - null-slight scum, Despo - leaning Town, Mish - Town, AJ - leaning mafia, Amega -  leaning mafia

 

and then she stops for the day and later subs because of her wrist (I hope it's getting better), but this list although incomplete has 2.5 leaning mafias out of 6, which seems high (difficult to say without the rest of the list).

 

Dice:

I still think that this http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/87715-advanced-house-md-mafia-day-4/?view=findpost&p=3172125

So who pushed the Andrej boat the most? Cause i think that was a very obvious "lets kill AJ and throw suspicion on such and such..." play by the mafia I dont think we just instantly assume anything cause AJ died

is really bad.  Otherwise Dice is wary of Tommy (understandable from anyone that's played with tommy as mafia) and Des (because of bad vibes - as of this point Des was probably my strongest town read still living).  There were then 5 posts defending himself against the above comment.  The outcome of this is that he thinks whoever was puching AJ as mafia Day 1 is being set up by mafia to take the fall.  This seems twisted logic that I can't follow.  He also never follows through to find out who was pushing AJ as mafia and using this as something to give a town read on.  He then disappears for Day 2.

 

During Night 2 apologises for being absent and says his top suspects are Hallia and Tommy, Despo (if he doesn't prove his vig claim).

 

Day 3 he says that Darthe calling him mafia are wrong, has followed enough of the Wombat/me argument to give me a LD statement which implies that he believes me to be LD.

 

Then comes in to say that if Wombat is the cop then he's most likely to be messed with, however doesn't explain why my viewing (and apparantly Darthes would also be messed with), is also 'sus' of my gifted viewing. Wants to lynch Darthe, although I'm an option to test Wombat.

 

Then comes in to agree with Darthe that he's not sold on me either. Then votes me over Wombat as LD is a less powerful role to lose.  This is after Mish has confirmed that she gifted me a viewing, so his primary objection to me has gone.

 

Night 3 responds to Darthe about time schedule (fair enough), responds to Tommy saying it shouldn't take Despo's death to make him play (fair point), already gave reasons (apparantly meta from the Thrawn game) and time schedule again. Tommy and Hallia are still his top reads (apparantly unaffected by Wombat flipping goon or my LD on Hallia). Tommy is meta from Thrawn (can you explain how this is different from his Town meta?), Hallia is a lean, BFG is town, believes Mish, and Lenlo (cos he believes me) is likely Town (with a ST possibility). Votes Tommy.

 

Votes Mish because she votes him, to do with Darthes 'Dice is mafia' statement. Unvotes Mish once I pointed out her uncountered inventor type role claim.

 

Claims vanilla and asks Mish what she thinks on Hallia (really don't like this nudge), or the fact that he seems to have forgotten his suspicion on Tommy from earlier.

 

 

Kaylee/Dice had a couple of (imo) dodgy posts in her/his statement about 'warrants looking into' and 'AJ's NK', which were defended but never followed through. His top 2 mafia suspects are Tommy and Hallia which have remained unchanged through the past few days. He also voted and unvoted Mish for dubious reasons. I really don't like his recent nudge on Hallia.  He also hasn't mentioned or interacted with half the players in the game.

 

vote Dice

[BFG]

Turin

 

 

Thought Csarmi/Despot looked staged up until Csarmi asked to be replaced out. Still has pings from them both though.

 

Agrees with Darthe about Mish, but realises that if that were true then Despot would have to be Town which conflicts with his read (on reread I like that he's aware of the conflict in his reads).

 

Starts the TG TMI, which looks bad.

 

Votes Despo.

 

Mentions the TG deleted post, again reads like a nudge. Lists Despo's votes (also done by Pral)

 

Gives a list of reads (which he says is colored by his conviction that Des is mafia) http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/87715-advanced-house-md-mafia-day-4/?view=findpost&p=3169330:

Peace: leaning town

Mish: null (was town)

Despo: mafia

AJ: pings some but slight town

Amega: incomplete - somewhat sus of people that follow him early

Hallia: slight mafia

Darthe: town

Kaylee: null

Wombat: town

Dap: null (was mafia)

BFG: town (thinks I'm sus on him which is reasonable as he's been inactive due to work)

TG: town (atm)

Pral: town (atm)

SP/Tommy: mafia

Lenlo: leaning mafia

 

Mafias: DESPO, Tommy, Lenlo, maybe Hallia, maybe Amega

 

I find this interesting, thinking about it - his read of me seems concilliatory as does his later post explaining why his reads weren't good (sus - as my Day 1 reads were rubbish). But also he has Tommy as mafia for buddying Des due to what happened in Thrawn, but skimming that game (and seen in Christmas) Tommy as mafia buddies Town (from Christmas it was mostly Cloud who he thought was town and myself). So following this through with Tommy would lead me to think Despo was more likely to be town than anything else.

 

Comes in to Day 2 a bit more on side with Des, agrees with him about Despo, sort of defends Wombat http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/87715-advanced-house-md-mafia-day-4/?view=findpost&p=3174975

Was Wombat already voting Dap when he made that nudging post? if so it is a bit less awful.

 

Think he was linking Dap, Des and Wombat when he voted Wombat (never expounded on this) as he then unvoted Wombat and voted Dap, asking about Hallia.

 

Explains later that he thought Des was mafia, but no chance of a lynch as to late in the day. Hallia was looking worse and he was wondering if there were enough people to lynch her instead.

 

He won't role claim at night.

 

Apologises for being absent, hellish week at work...

 

Gives reads:

Peace: unsure

Turin: town, wins with town...

Mish (claims gifter/inventor?) - would need huge gambit between Wombat, myself and Mish in order for her to be mafia (would also need no cop in game)

Amega/Rags - mafia lean - active at start, faded into shadows (aware of pot/kettle)

Hallia - mafia lean

Dice - no read, asks if he reacted to Darthes statement

BFG - mostly confirmed unless major gambit

TG - leaning Town (dug out of hole from Day 1)

Tommy - mafia

Lenlo - null to mafia

 

Mafia: Tommy, Hallia, Rags/Amega, Lenlo

Unsure: Dice, Peace

 

Also responds to me about reads - I do find this odd. I brought it up once, since when my reads were proved to be awful.

 

Also with reads, I don't like that his reads also haven't changed since Day 1. His mafia suspects are the same, with some people switched in likelihood. Again he's read enough to have read my LD claim and believes it, but has both Hallia and Lenlo as mafia, at this stage if you believe me it's one or the other.

 

 

 

I still feel pretty bad about Turin. His reads are also more or less unchanged since Day 1, has both Hallia and Lenlo as mafia despite the fact that at this stage it can only be one or the other (although in fairness several people have missed this).

[BFG]

And I'm out of time now, will try and finish up later.

[BFG]

Key, you have:
Dice (2) - Hallia, TG, Mish
 

[michellem]

I don't feel any doubt over them being mafia. This is both Dice and Kaylee's mafia meta to a tee. Turin I don't remember as mafia, but he has enough awful in his posts for it to be pretty clear.

[TheRagnarok]

Hey guys, really sorry about the recent inactivity.  My laptop's backlight went out Friday and I was slammed all weekend with work.  Gonna get caught up in the next day or so.

[michellem]

Rags, we have a deadline in ten hours.

[TheRagnarok]

Damn...I'm in meetings til pretty late, but I'll try to get caught up before then.

[peacesells]

UNVOTE VOTE DICE

[keyholder21]

Key, you have:

Dice (2) - Hallia, TG, Mish

 

 

Gah.  Thanks!

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Dice (5) - Hallia, TG, Mish, BFG, peace

TG (1) - Tommy

 

Not Voting (6) - Turin, Rags,  Lenlo, Dice

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Dice is at L-1.

 

Deadline: Monday, March 10 @ 9PM CDT (A little under 10 hours)

http://www.timeandda...sg=End of Day 4

[dicetosser1]

all right you wanna kill town lets kill town

 

vote dice

[keyholder21]

Official Vote Count:

 

Dice (6) - Hallia, TG, Mish, BFG, peace, dice

TG (1) - Tommy

 

Not Voting (3) - Turin, Rags,  Lenlo,

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

That's a lynch.  Scene incoming.

[keyholder21]

Darryl sipped his coffee and stared contemplatively out the window.  It had been a slow morning so far.  Others had complained, but he was enjoying the quiet.  Yesterday had been …interesting to say the least and he felt like he was still recovering.  Of course, he mulled to himself, any day that Gregory House showed up at his office always became interesting.  This time the misanthropic diagnostician had been obsessed with his new case.  He had barreled into Darryl’s office, interrupting another patient, and proceeded to list the symptoms. 

 

Though annoying, it had served to pique Dr. Nolan’s interest.  The case seemed particularly difficult to solve and Darryl liked puzzles.  It was that case that he was mulling over at the moment, though how to deal with Dr. House’s attitude regarding other patients was certainly worth considering as well. He took another sip of coffee and coughed, a little of the dark liquid slipping out.  He coughed again, pounding a hand against his chest.  Why did it feel like there was an obstruction in his chest?  Why could he suddenly not breathe? 

 

The coffee cup fell to the floor, the remaining quarter spilling onto the linoleum. Shortly after, he fell to the ground, scratching at his throat, as if trying to open it with his fingernails alone.  He gasped, wanting desperately to breathe. As blackness started to close in, one hand finally reached into the air, trying to grab one of the  phones atop his desk.  His cell phone buzzed above him, as if to add insult to injury.  It felt like anaphylactic shock, but he was only allergic to sesame seeds and he’d ingested none.  His eyes rolled around wildly, trying to figure something out.  It was then that he saw the person standing there with the empty vial and a smile. 

 

“Why?”  He managed to croak, before succumbing to the darkness.

 

 

Dice, Dr. Darryl Nolan, vanilla town has been lynched.

[keyholder21]

It is now Night.

 

 

Night will end at Deadline:  http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=70&iso=20140311T14&year=2014&month=3&day=11&hour=14&min=0&sec=0&msg=End%20of%20Night%204, or when all actions have been submitted.

[michellem]

I just... Wow Dice. Why not even bother to make an effort? Make some cases, defend yourself, SOMETHING.

[Tommyrod]

Who is even left? It pretty much has to be TG/Turin/Rags.

[Tommyrod]

Or Peace, forgot about Peace. Probably Peace over Rags.

[michellem]

Should've gone with Turin today over Dice. But that hole Dice dug for himself was too big to be ignored too, blech. 

[peacesells]

Um, don't know what to say Dice.  That was some bad sportsmanship there.  Never hammer yourself and the deadline is like a minute away.  You basically keep one player off the train which kills analyzing that vote. 

[BFG]

Tommy what makes you think Rags is town?