[Basic] Wreck-It Ralph Mafia Game Over Mafia Wins

[nervositee]

I agree that the "at times moody" was probably unnecessary, but if that is what you are picking at, calling my wish to turn all stones "scummy overselling" I'll rest my case for now. 

 

 

Town rely on the facts and don't add subjective points.

 

As town, the only fact I have is that I'm town and whats in post 1 by Kaylee. I'm guessing the only other places there are facts is the mafia-QT and possibly the dead-QT.  

 

Isn't this whole game is based around assumption, interpretation of behaviour and theorizing? 

[Verbal32]

Correct.

 

Fact: AJ lied today when he said he wasn't testing.

 

Fact: I refuted it and proved him a liar

 

Fact: I linked you and AJ in a logical manner due to the unlikelihood scum-AJ would bus a scum-Nikon, thus pointing to a reasonable potential you're his scum mate.

 

Fact: It is possible that I'm scum with AJ. That said, with only 3 to lynch today, it is not likely scum would want to risk 2/3 townies jumping on and lynching scum.

 

Fact: We both agree that AJ is scum.

 

Fact: I will vote AJ with you today, and we can continue this discussion tomorrow.

 

Fact: If scum kill me tonight, I'll laugh my @$$ off.

[Verbal32]

Also, turning over all stones as you say =/= being subjective. That is where you're showing your scum alignment. It is the little cracks that eventually become large enough for me to drive my townie truck through.

 

;-)

[Nikonis]

Just finished going through all of Verbal's posts since the start of the game and not sure what to say... Most of what I read makes me think mafia here since it, like Ishy and AJ, has little direction behind it and to me seems to read more "Hey I'm posting... Not mafia!"  I also think the fact that Verbal has abstained from voting on any Day vote OTHER than Day 2 when a town member, pralia, was lynched seems a little strange and might indicate mafia.

 

Still need to do a read on Nerv but right now AJ and Verbal are my two suspects... Still thinking about it and don't plan to vote until tomorrow near the deadline or when we all have our discussions out there.  Though does seem that most everyone agrees on AJ so far and no real defense coming from him that I see seems a bit odd.

[nervositee]

Heading to bed now. Hopefully peace checks in too. I'm free all day tomorrow so I'll be around for the lynch ;)

[peacesells]

Verbal, really hard to take any of your casing serious when it is full of hyperbole.

 

I pretty much intend to vote Verbal. 

[Verbal32]

Verbal, really hard to take any of your casing serious when it is full of hyperbole.

 

I pretty much intend to vote Verbal. 

 

Are you serious with this?  You think I'm exaggerating?  Show me.

 

I'm providing logical links.  Nerv agrees that it is AJ or me.  Nikon agrees it is AJ or me.  You agree it is AJ or me.  I also think it is AJ.

 

The common denominator is AJ.  Don't be ridiculous and vote for the 2nd choice.  The only person we all have in common for scum is AJ.

[Verbal32]

Now I'm starting to get moody & short, because the remaining townies are being silly.  If you think it is person A or B, and everybody else agrees.....and then person B thinks A or C.......you vote A!  That is the common ground!

 

Your "hard to take serious when full of hyperbole" is potentially the worst reason to dismiss a case that I've ever seen made in a mafia game.  Grats on that one.

[Verbal32]

Crap lost my post. Not gonna bother quoting again. Sorry for the extremely short post earlier; had visitors but I just wanted to get it out there that we need to slow down Ishy's lynch. It won't help us at all if we get down a mafia but then start next Day with no more information from exchanges today.

 

I'm leaning to agree with you, Verb. I see Nikon as cleared for me (his 7 town, 6 mafia post proved pretty clearly he wasn't mafia), I still say Peace's reaction to the D1 lynch was a huuuuge towntell for me, and he's been posting pro-town the whole game. Nerv hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on him at all. AJ, probably mafia. I'd say take Ishy today, AJ tomorrow, and then we'll see who's NK and take it from there... Final mafia is between Verb and Nerv. And I'm leaning more town on Verb than Nerv.

 

Here, Peace.  Read this.  The whole thing.

 

This was in response to my casing on AJ and linking to Nerv.  She thinks Nikon is clear as well (and even gives a better reason for it), and agrees we need to lynch AJ after Ishy.

 

 

Not only do the living with unknown alignments (Nikon & Nerv) agree that it is me or AJ...........but so does a dead & confirmed townie.  And guess what?  She leans more town on me.

 

 

 

 

 

And was NKed the very next night.  Gee, I wonder why?

[nervositee]

Now I'm starting to get moody & short, because the remaining townies are being silly.  If you think it is person A or B, and everybody else agrees.....and then person B thinks A or C.......you vote A!  That is the common ground!

 

 

 

Is that being silly? The only reason that is presented as silly is because person B hasn't been online yet. I'm guessing towards deadline it's:

 

You think its A or B and everybody else agrees, and then person B thinks A or C, and person A thinks B or C. 

 

Not a silly thing to discuss at all. And we still got time before deadline, why the hurry?

 

 

 

 

Crap lost my post. Not gonna bother quoting again. Sorry for the extremely short post earlier; had visitors but I just wanted to get it out there that we need to slow down Ishy's lynch. It won't help us at all if we get down a mafia but then start next Day with no more information from exchanges today.

 

I'm leaning to agree with you, Verb. I see Nikon as cleared for me (his 7 town, 6 mafia post proved pretty clearly he wasn't mafia), I still say Peace's reaction to the D1 lynch was a huuuuge towntell for me, and he's been posting pro-town the whole game. Nerv hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on him at all. AJ, probably mafia. I'd say take Ishy today, AJ tomorrow, and then we'll see who's NK and take it from there... Final mafia is between Verb and Nerv. And I'm leaning more town on Verb than Nerv.

 

Here, Peace.  Read this.  The whole thing.

 

This was in response to my casing on AJ and linking to Nerv.  She thinks Nikon is clear as well (and even gives a better reason for it), and agrees we need to lynch AJ after Ishy.

 

 

Not only do the living with unknown alignments (Nikon & Nerv) agree that it is me or AJ...........but so does a dead & confirmed townie.  And guess what?  She leans more town on me.

 

 

And was NKed the very next night.  Gee, I wonder why?

 

 

 

I don't know whats normal scum-play, but night-killing a player as soon as she gets it totally right would be kinda dumb, don't you think? Better to night-kill a character with a claim that can be—if dug up when things got stormy—bus one player and clear the other? I don't know the NK-motive but it hardly clears your name. 

[Verbal32]

 

Now I'm starting to get moody & short, because the remaining townies are being silly.  If you think it is person A or B, and everybody else agrees.....and then person B thinks A or C.......you vote A!  That is the common ground!

 

 

 

Is that being silly? The only reason that is presented as silly is because person B hasn't been online yet. I'm guessing towards deadline it's:

 

You think its A or B and everybody else agrees, and then person B thinks A or C, and person A thinks B or C. 

 

Not a silly thing to discuss at all. And we still got time before deadline, why the hurry?

 

 

 

 

Crap lost my post. Not gonna bother quoting again. Sorry for the extremely short post earlier; had visitors but I just wanted to get it out there that we need to slow down Ishy's lynch. It won't help us at all if we get down a mafia but then start next Day with no more information from exchanges today.

 

I'm leaning to agree with you, Verb. I see Nikon as cleared for me (his 7 town, 6 mafia post proved pretty clearly he wasn't mafia), I still say Peace's reaction to the D1 lynch was a huuuuge towntell for me, and he's been posting pro-town the whole game. Nerv hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on him at all. AJ, probably mafia. I'd say take Ishy today, AJ tomorrow, and then we'll see who's NK and take it from there... Final mafia is between Verb and Nerv. And I'm leaning more town on Verb than Nerv.

 

Here, Peace.  Read this.  The whole thing.

 

This was in response to my casing on AJ and linking to Nerv.  She thinks Nikon is clear as well (and even gives a better reason for it), and agrees we need to lynch AJ after Ishy.

 

 

Not only do the living with unknown alignments (Nikon & Nerv) agree that it is me or AJ...........but so does a dead & confirmed townie.  And guess what?  She leans more town on me.

 

 

And was NKed the very next night.  Gee, I wonder why?

 

 

 

I don't know whats normal scum-play, but night-killing a player as soon as she gets it totally right would be kinda dumb, don't you think? Better to night-kill a character with a claim that can be—if dug up when things got stormy—bus one player and clear the other? I don't know the NK-motive but it hardly clears your name. 

 

 

It was one isolated post by Mish, and a lot of the heat was on AJ (from me) and me (from everyone else).  So I actually think silencing a voice of reason is a good move.  I'm known for NKing to silence, so it even works as a mark against me (it is on my scum meta).

 

So I am not letting you bury this as insignificant.  Looking back at the reads from dead townies is important - and this was a very recent one from Mish that supports my plan:  lynch the common denominator.

[Verbal32]

 

Now I'm starting to get moody & short, because the remaining townies are being silly.  If you think it is person A or B, and everybody else agrees.....and then person B thinks A or C.......you vote A!  That is the common ground!

 

 

 

Is that being silly? The only reason that is presented as silly is because person B hasn't been online yet. I'm guessing towards deadline it's:

 

You think its A or B and everybody else agrees, and then person B thinks A or C, and person A thinks B or C. 

 

Not a silly thing to discuss at all. And we still got time before deadline, why the hurry?

 

 

Actually, I'm person B.

 

But you're supporting my point here.

 

 

Peace:  thinks AJ or Verbal

 

AJ:  thinks Verbal or Nerv

 

Nerv:  thinks AJ or Verbal

 

Nikon:  thinks AJ or Verbal

 

Verbal:  thinks AJ or Nerv

 

 

 

Tally them up.  AJ and I are tied with 4 apiece.  Then look to the most recent dead townie that was alive for the entire casing/linking done before (Mish).  She thinks AJ or Verbal/Nerv.....but specifically states she's leaning town on me and therefore would say AJ and Nerv.

 

That is the tiebreaker right there.  Mish wasn't playing any games - you can 100% trust that she was being honest in this post.  Is she right?  We'll see.  (Hint: she is).

 

 

Bottom line:  vote based on the common denominator.  AJ is the common denominator.

[Kaylee]

A little more than 11 hours till deadline.

[nervositee]

 

 

So I am not letting you bury this as insignificant.  Looking back at the reads from dead townies is important - and this was a very recent one from Mish that supports my plan:  lynch the common denominator.

 

 

I never said it's insignificant at all. Of course I agree dead townie-reads are important.

 

I said from that read, I think it's more likely you and AJ decided to lynch her so that if it all got down to you or him, you could use Mish's read to bus AJ and try to clear your own name home free. It's 100% in the style of the game you two have been playing all along. 

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

So I am not letting you bury this as insignificant.  Looking back at the reads from dead townies is important - and this was a very recent one from Mish that supports my plan:  lynch the common denominator.

 

 

I never said it's insignificant at all. Of course I agree dead townie-reads are important.

 

I said from that read, I think it's more likely you and AJ decided to lynch her so that if it all got down to you or him, you could use Mish's read to bus AJ and try to clear your own name home free. It's 100% in the style of the game you two have been playing all along. 

 

 

First of all, she was NKed - not lynched.

 

Second, sure.  That would be a valid strategy.  I won't argue that point.  In that case, are you willing to cast the vote on AJ here?  All this discourse between you and I is doing is hammering home my point that AJ is the proper lynch.  Then you ISO myself and yourself tomorrow and determine the game.

[Andrej]

Alright folks, sorry that I've been absent the last few days. NYE was fun but yesterday was spent nursing a hangover with my 10 month old who has a cold. Mom's off work today so I can actually have some time to read through and post.

 

Gonna grab some quotes and I'll be back in a bit.

[Andrej]

Final Vote Count

 

Nikon (1): nervositee

Hoof (7): Ishy, Mish, Despo, Leelou, Pral, Wombat, GF

Leelou (2): Hoof, Nikon

Verbal (1): AJ

 

Not Voting (4): AJ, Pral, Verbal, Peace

 

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

 

Deadline is Tonight Dec, 19th @ 8:30pm MST

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131219T2030&p0=197&csz=1

 

That's a lynch! Scene will be after I put the baby to bed

 

Okay, D1 Final Count. Ishy we know was scum now and you also have Womby on the wagon which makes sense considering his role and the way he chastised everyone for voting Hoof and then voted himself. Not much to see here... Hoof wagon was mostly Town players. Lots of people not voting but I'm focusing mostly on Verb here. When I was doing my catch-up during my drive up to NC I know he posted around the DL.

 

They were scared of you, Des.

 

Some distancing from the NK, like I mentioned earlier.

 

 

it's pretty complicated, but utterly valid.  The mafia may have been scared of Des, but it certainly wasn't for anything he did yesterday.  His top two were Hoof and Leelou.  Therefore, they had another reason for killing Des.  One that wouldn't have worked on Verbal or me.  I gave 3 scum reads yesterday.  Des, you, and Peace.  That the mafia killed Des shows me that they probably wanted me to move away from my reads by killing a townie who was in them.  They probably figured that they could brush it off as WIFOM.  And that's where they fell for my trap.  If the mafia really wanted to WIFOM it up, they should have killed me.  But I'd already WIFOM'd them so they were scared of doing it.  Because it would be WIFOMing with one of their members' lives.  They also probably thought they could get me lynched if they killed Despo.  Silly of them.  So they tried to hedge by killing one of my reads who had also FoS'd me to make town doubt me.  But that's where they messed up.  If there were no scum in my scum reads (highly unlikely), they should have aimed elsewhere knowing that I would probably continue to press my scum reads.  But they didn't.  Cuz there's scum there.  So at least one of you and Peace is probably scum.  And that's where Monty Hall comes in.  The mafia showed me a goat by killing Despo, so now I'm switching doors and voting you.  And I'm gonna win a brand new car.

 

 

I'm truly on the fence with you.  I get the nagging feeling you're trying to manipulate me with some of your posts, but then you say something like this that I 100% agree with.  Specifically the bold - this is what a smart scum team will do with a good townie scumhunter that isn't on the right track - they'll keep him alive and let him lead the town down the wrong path.  We do it with the Ape all the time, so this stands out to me as townie points for you.

 

As it stands, I'm keeping my eye on Wombat, but will not vote him today.

 

I'd be inclined to potentially vote GF - Ishy is in the right on that subject, and I'd support it with my vote.

 

 

Or....I could just stand here and be awesome.  Yeah, I'm gonna go for that.

 

 

The bolded goes hand-in-hand with the theory that Wombat posted earlier about the scum team intentionally killing Des in order to have Wombat tunnel his original reads a bit harder. This is all but guilty omission lol. Also, notice the bit where he says he is more inclined to vote for GF over Ishy.

 

Final Vote Count

 

AJ (2): Leelou, Wombat

Wombat (2): Nervositee, Mish

Ishy (1): Pral

Pral (4): Ishy, Verbal, AJ, Peace, GF, Nikon

 

Not Voting (0): nobody

 

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline is Thursday, Dec 26th @ 8:30pm MST http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131226T2030&p0=197&msg=Day+2&csz=1

 

That's a lynch scene incoming!

 

The end of D2 was pretty pivotal in the game IMO with how it turned around. We had Ishy and Wombat as the leading trains for the day (both were not town), Ishy fake claims Cop and immediately drops a vote onto Pral, Verb follows giving the wagon more weight. Several others were guilty of this as well (including myself), but the interaction here is telling of Verb IMO. Should be noted that Pral had previously voted Verb earlier in the day. Something else to note was Nikon's hammer.

 

Final Vote Count

 

Wombat (5): GF, AJ, Peace, Nervositee, Ishy

Ishy (2): Wombat, Mish

 

Not voting (2): Verbal, Nikon

 

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

 

 

Deadline is Tuesday Dec 31st @ 8:30pm MST http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=197&iso=20131231T2030&year=2013&month=12&day=31&hour=20&min=30&sec=0&msg=Day%203&csz=1

 

 

That's a lynch!

 

Final Vote Count

 

Ishy (4): Peace, Nikon, Mish, Nervositee

 

Not Voting (3): AJ, Verbal, Ishy

 

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Tuesday 8:30pm MST http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131231T2030&p0=197&msg=Day+4&csz=1

 

That's a lynch!

 

Nothing really stands out to me on these two wagons. Verb is not voting on either (totalling him to 3 completed trains he wasn't on, and the one he actually has on saved helped to save Ishy). Peace has been on every wagon up to this point which gives me general feel that he is applying himself despite his cold which is town behavior IMO.

[Andrej]

 

 

Now I'm starting to get moody & short, because the remaining townies are being silly.  If you think it is person A or B, and everybody else agrees.....and then person B thinks A or C.......you vote A!  That is the common ground!

 

 

 

Is that being silly? The only reason that is presented as silly is because person B hasn't been online yet. I'm guessing towards deadline it's:

 

You think its A or B and everybody else agrees, and then person B thinks A or C, and person A thinks B or C. 

 

Not a silly thing to discuss at all. And we still got time before deadline, why the hurry?

 

 

 

 

Crap lost my post. Not gonna bother quoting again. Sorry for the extremely short post earlier; had visitors but I just wanted to get it out there that we need to slow down Ishy's lynch. It won't help us at all if we get down a mafia but then start next Day with no more information from exchanges today.

 

I'm leaning to agree with you, Verb. I see Nikon as cleared for me (his 7 town, 6 mafia post proved pretty clearly he wasn't mafia), I still say Peace's reaction to the D1 lynch was a huuuuge towntell for me, and he's been posting pro-town the whole game. Nerv hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on him at all. AJ, probably mafia. I'd say take Ishy today, AJ tomorrow, and then we'll see who's NK and take it from there... Final mafia is between Verb and Nerv. And I'm leaning more town on Verb than Nerv.

 

Here, Peace.  Read this.  The whole thing.

 

This was in response to my casing on AJ and linking to Nerv.  She thinks Nikon is clear as well (and even gives a better reason for it), and agrees we need to lynch AJ after Ishy.

 

 

Not only do the living with unknown alignments (Nikon & Nerv) agree that it is me or AJ...........but so does a dead & confirmed townie.  And guess what?  She leans more town on me.

 

 

And was NKed the very next night.  Gee, I wonder why?

 

 

 

I don't know whats normal scum-play, but night-killing a player as soon as she gets it totally right would be kinda dumb, don't you think? Better to night-kill a character with a claim that can be—if dug up when things got stormy—bus one player and clear the other? I don't know the NK-motive but it hardly clears your name. 

 

 

It was one isolated post by Mish, and a lot of the heat was on AJ (from me) and me (from everyone else).  So I actually think silencing a voice of reason is a good move.  I'm known for NKing to silence, so it even works as a mark against me (it is on my scum meta).

 

So I am not letting you bury this as insignificant.  Looking back at the reads from dead townies is important - and this was a very recent one from Mish that supports my plan:  lynch the common denominator.

 

 

 

Crap lost my post. Not gonna bother quoting again. Sorry for the extremely short post earlier; had visitors but I just wanted to get it out there that we need to slow down Ishy's lynch. It won't help us at all if we get down a mafia but then start next Day with no more information from exchanges today.

 

I'm leaning to agree with you, Verb. I see Nikon as cleared for me (his 7 town, 6 mafia post proved pretty clearly he wasn't mafia), I still say Peace's reaction to the D1 lynch was a huuuuge towntell for me, and he's been posting pro-town the whole game. Nerv hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on him at all. AJ, probably mafia. I'd say take Ishy today, AJ tomorrow, and then we'll see who's NK and take it from there... Final mafia is between Verb and Nerv. And I'm leaning more town on Verb than Nerv.

 

Here, Peace.  Read this.  The whole thing.

 

This was in response to my casing on AJ and linking to Nerv.  She thinks Nikon is clear as well (and even gives a better reason for it), and agrees we need to lynch AJ after Ishy.

 

 

Not only do the living with unknown alignments (Nikon & Nerv) agree that it is me or AJ...........but so does a dead & confirmed townie.  And guess what?  She leans more town on me.

 

 

 

 

 

And was NKed the very next night.  Gee, I wonder why?

 

 

Self-meta arguments, bleh. This is you trying to manipulate your own play style history for your benefit. You are arguing that you wouldn't have NK'd Mish because she agreed with you and it is in your scum meta to only kill those who are opposing? The fact that you are bringing it up reads like you are trying to use her death as evidence to incriminate me, when you knew later you could reference back to her reads post before Night came around. "Look guys, Mish said AJ was scum too, and they NK'd her!"

 

Who is being transparent now?

 

Also, the fact remains that you've had my vote for the better part of 2-3 days now and still haven't been hammered, when reaffirms my previous statement that both of us cannot be town. So either you and your buddy are waiting for a vote to be cast another direction so you can both hammer, or you are scum and obviously your partner will not vote you in this case with the fear one of the remaining townies would hammer.

[Andrej]

Oh, and if we're using the argument of dead players' reads, both Pral and Wombat had you pretty high on their suspect list before they were eliminated.

[Verbal32]

Oh, and if we're using the argument of dead players' reads, both Pral and Wombat had you pretty high on their suspect list before they were eliminated.

 

I'll handle this one first.  Wombat was not town, lol.  His suspect lists are pretty.....suspect.  Heh.  He would be scumhunting early, just enough to seem townish.  You're creating a case out of nothing, and it's obvious.

[Andrej]

I agree that Wombat's suspect list isn't as credible considering his alignment, the point was that if you are going to use evidence of dead player's reads it isn't like you've gone this entire game without someone being suspicious of you.

 

You had my vote on D1 after Leelou's reveal, which I have already explained that scum will often allow Townies to buddy them for later associative tells in the event that you were lynched. That wouldn't have worked this time seeing how she landed the Doc role, but you obviously wouldn't have known that.

 

Pral also was suspect of you, which you neglected to ever respond to and later helped ensure that he was lynched over your scum buddy Ishy. That brings another quote of yours to mind where you state clearly that you chose not to respond to people's comments on you so that you wouldn't appear jumpy.

 

Does it need to be stated who is more concerned with their image in games?

[Verbal32]

Self-meta arguments, bleh. This is you trying to manipulate your own play style history for your benefit. You are arguing that you wouldn't have NK'd Mish because she agreed with you and it is in your scum meta to only kill those who are opposing? The fact that you are bringing it up reads like you are trying to use her death as evidence to incriminate me, when you knew later you could reference back to her reads post before Night came around. "Look guys, Mish said AJ was scum too, and they NK'd her!"

 

Who is being transparent now?

 

Also, the fact remains that you've had my vote for the better part of 2-3 days now and still haven't been hammered, when reaffirms my previous statement that both of us cannot be town. So either you and your buddy are waiting for a vote to be cast another direction so you can both hammer, or you are scum and obviously your partner will not vote you in this case with the fear one of the remaining townies would hammer.

 

 

You're missing the point.  I'm being transparent in laying out the thought process here.  You were transparent in your quick-vote of me to start the day.

 

@Peace:  dude, that alone should have done it for you.

[Verbal32]

I agree that Wombat's suspect list isn't as credible considering his alignment, the point was that if you are going to use evidence of dead player's reads it isn't like you've gone this entire game without someone being suspicious of you.

 

You had my vote on D1 after Leelou's reveal, which I have already explained that scum will often allow Townies to buddy them for later associative tells in the event that you were lynched. That wouldn't have worked this time seeing how she landed the Doc role, but you obviously wouldn't have known that.

 

Pral also was suspect of you, which you neglected to ever respond to and later helped ensure that he was lynched over your scum buddy Ishy. That brings another quote of yours to mind where you state clearly that you chose not to respond to people's comments on you so that you wouldn't appear jumpy.

 

Does it need to be stated who is more concerned with their image in games?

 

Haha, you're twisting my words like scum does.  You are literally dropping every scumtell in the book.  I'll go fish for that quote of mine because you are taking it out of context.

 

 

To clarify "helped ensure", hehe - I simply agreed with Ishy that GF wasn't posting/playing, and that kind of inactivity can lose a game.  I agreed with it then, and I agree with it still.  That has no bearing on who is mafia.....those are pet peeves that have been well documented by several players over many many games.  To try and bring them in as a substantial argument in your case is bush league.

[Verbal32]

Here is that jumpy quote:
 

Re: ignoring AJ's vote on me - you don't need to respond to every little mention of your name.....it can make you seem jumpy. I'm not jumpy.

Also, Pral, this case of yours is about as strong as a piece of wet toilet paper. Good luck.

There was no comment I ignored - nice try to make something of it that doesn't exist.  I was ignoring your vote on me.  To jump and defend every little vote, especially early, is not a good idea regardless of alignment.  I know you'd like to make that a scumtell, but it isn't.  However, some would argue that responding to everything aimed at them is a scumtell, so who knows.  But for sure not responding isn't a scumtell.

 

Also, LOL at using early game joking with an IRL friend to fit your scum agenda here.  It's gross, and won't work.  If anything, I was buddying her more than the other way around - it was me following her onto trains.  Once I got serious, you'll see that I gained momentum in both content and posts, as per usual.  Nothing new here - just more scum maneuvering on your part.

[nervositee]

 

 

@Peace:  dude, that alone should have done it for you.

 

 

 

Leading by the hand are we? 

 

 

Peace, Nikon, where you guys at? Bit over 7 hours 'til deadline, which way do you wanna go? I'm still confident in my theory already voiced (this half-hearted banter here just makes me even more sure) so it doesn't matter that much to me which way to go first.