[Basic] The Circle Mafia - Game over

[hazelkrs1]

How can you say that I wouldn't know enough to say definitively? I have played several games with Kaylee. Some as Town together and another where I was scum and her Town. I would say I am fairly familiar with her play. Also don't like how you are stating that you could vote either me or Ishy. Looks like you're seeing which might gain traction first so you can park your vote there.

 

Eh, I don't remember Kaylee playing that many games recently, and I know you're still fairly new.

 

As for bolded- seriously? You serious with that line?

 

So anyone who ever fos'es more than one person in a post is suspect? That's a complete line of garbage, that reasoning there. Am I already voting you this game?

[hazelkrs1]

Okay, I am. Good.

 

Gonna fetch that quote now.

[Andrej]

I'm waiting anxiously.

 

And yeah, you could say that I'm fairly new. I haven't played in a lot of games here in total, but my streak does stretch back a year or so. I took some breaks here and there because of work/deployments and all that.

 

Which is why I'm more active nowadays because I'm officially separated and have tons of time on my hands until I start school in January

[hazelkrs1]

Also I came out aggressive because I had the opportunity to be active and wanted to go after anything that might go somewhere as I've said before.

 

Here's where she herself essentially admits that she came out more aggressive than she usually does. Otherwise, why explain why she came out aggressively this game? If this was normal for her level of aggressiveness, don't you think she wouldn't have explained why like this?

 

So yes, FOS @ Ishy and AJ for trying to meta-defend her and say she wasn't that aggressive.

 

From Cloud: I find it scummy that you later made a distinction about self-preservation and her being afraid to make a mistake so that you could justify your initial FoS on me and your agreement with Key.

 

No, I was explaining my original thoughts to you about why I called you out. Key then made a comment about Aidanna that seemed like it could be something. It had nothing to do with justifying my FoS. As I said to Key, I'm pointing out anything that could be something.

 

First paragraph is from Cloud, second paragraph is Kaylee's. In case someone doesn't remember, they were talking about Aidanna's post about worrying about getting (mod)killed. Cloud said she seemed like she was too concerned with self-preservation. Kaylee fos'd him for that. Key then came in pretty much said the same thing as Cloud, that Aidanna seemed too concerned with trying to stay alive... and then Kaylee quotes Key and said something along the lines of "Huh, I didnt think about that". Even tho Key said pretty much the same thing as Cloud, Kay fos'd Cloud for it and not Key. This stood out to me early on.

 

Here she explains herself, not a very good defense at that point. I'm thinking now that Kaylee might have just not been paying close attention at the time mebbe.

 

 

I was only pressuring her for something that stood out to me. It was also the first game related thing that I noticed and I thought it was a good opportunity to start the game and go into serious mode.

 

Don't you agree that my action falls into "going after something that might get us nowhere" and "Letting things slide and ignoring possible leads/connections no matter how small gets us nowhere"?

Very possibly that's why I questioned you and didn't jump to a quick vote on you. I like to be sure ite at least talk things out before placing a vote. Why? Because it leads to more information later in the game.

 

 

And here's where she backtracks from her fos on Cloud. "Very possibly..." also stood out to me early on, and I mentioned so.

 

What changed my mind about Kaylee's play was that she first said I could be scum after ... AJ I think it was?... asked her for scum reads, and then almost immediately after said she thought I was town. Looks more like sloppy town play to me than scum moves, which wouldn't display such a contradiction so quickly next to a previous post.

[Andrej]

 

Also I came out aggressive because I had the opportunity to be active and wanted to go after anything that might go somewhere as I've said before.

 

Here's where she herself essentially admits that she came out more aggressive than she usually does. Otherwise, why explain why she came out aggressively this game? If this was normal for her level of aggressiveness, don't you think she wouldn't have explained why like this?

 

So yes, FOS @ Ishy and AJ for trying to meta-defend her and say she wasn't that aggressive.

 

 

 

From Cloud: I find it scummy that you later made a distinction about self-preservation and her being afraid to make a mistake so that you could justify your initial FoS on me and your agreement with Key.

 

No, I was explaining my original thoughts to you about why I called you out. Key then made a comment about Aidanna that seemed like it could be something. It had nothing to do with justifying my FoS. As I said to Key, I'm pointing out anything that could be something.

 

First paragraph is from Cloud, second paragraph is Kaylee's. In case someone doesn't remember, they were talking about Aidanna's post about worrying about getting (mod)killed. Cloud said she seemed like she was too concerned with self-preservation. Kaylee fos'd him for that. Key then came in pretty much said the same thing as Cloud, that Aidanna seemed too concerned with trying to stay alive... and then Kaylee quotes Key and said something along the lines of "Huh, I didnt think about that". Even tho Key said pretty much the same thing as Cloud, Kay fos'd Cloud for it and not Key. This stood out to me early on.

 

Here she explains herself, not a very good defense at that point. I'm thinking now that Kaylee might have just not been paying close attention at the time mebbe.

 

 

I was only pressuring her for something that stood out to me. It was also the first game related thing that I noticed and I thought it was a good opportunity to start the game and go into serious mode.

 

Don't you agree that my action falls into "going after something that might get us nowhere" and "Letting things slide and ignoring possible leads/connections no matter how small gets us nowhere"?

Very possibly that's why I questioned you and didn't jump to a quick vote on you. I like to be sure ite at least talk things out before placing a vote. Why? Because it leads to more information later in the game.

 

 

And here's where she backtracks from her fos on Cloud. "Very possibly..." also stood out to me early on, and I mentioned so.

 

 

What changed my mind about Kaylee's play was that she first said I could be scum after ... AJ I think it was?... asked her for scum reads, and then almost immediately after said she thought I was town. Looks more like sloppy town play to me than scum moves, which wouldn't display such a contradiction so quickly next to a previous post.

 

 

I don't see Kaylee admitting that she came out more aggressively than she normally does. To me she is saying that since she had the opportunity based on time contraints she saw something and went after it. Also, I provided my quotes below for what I have regarding Kaylee. I never said that she wasn't that aggressive as you put it.

 

Another thing, I haven't asked Kaylee for scum reads because I replaced in AFTER the fact. She hasn't posted since I joined the game, so you saying that she looks like she isn't paying attention is simply... well, contradictory.

 

You're misrepping here bro.

 

Hello everyone

 

Quick question, who is the Survivor? Just go ahead and claim so that our PRs don't waste a Night on you.

 

Alright, I'm up to page 4 so far: Cloud looks aggro, but I sort of like it. Dice's vote and unvote of Aida early on looks sketchy to me. Luci seems to be digging in as she comes into the game, good vibes there.

 

Bad vibes from Hallu. Not sure what to think about his vote for Darthe on pg. 7 or his post #193. Possibly no Cop so voting Darthe isn't a bad option? Huh?

 

Des also stands out. His opening vote on JS/me for the 'Joker' line is pretty lame. Also don't like his quick turnaround vote from Kay to Key. (I'm gonna get those mixed up later, I'm sure of it)

 

I like Darthe and Ishy this game. Kay seems to be on her meta. I'm getting a Town vibe from Cloud as well. Key's and Despo's votes on the Kay wagon stand out most to me right now.

 

vote Des

 

Don't try to meta-game me right now Des

 

My son is only 9 months, so I can pretty much say whatever to him... although I avoid the curse words. Hence the poopie thing lol

 

I disagree that Kaylee seemed overaggressive. Besides, I doubt scum would put themselves in the spotlight like that early on.

 

The METAL game by Darthe game me a good insight in Kaylee's game. She was aggressive then, presenting cases and using the NKs as evidence. I thought she was scum that game because of it and never fully trusted her, which bit me in the @$$ later because we lost. I like her game now.

[Darthe]

Hey I think I promised a pic.  What am I drinking tonight folks?

 

[Andrej]

That's a sweet liquor cabinet.

 

I'm having trouble reading some of those labels though. I'm afraid my tastes are much lower class than yours

[hazelkrs1]

@AJ: I guess I was mistaken about you asking her for reads, I even said I wasn't sure tho. Point still stands however. You saying she hasn't posted since you joined means she IS paying attention to the thread? Eh? Don't get what you're saying there at all bro.

[Andrej]

No.

 

I'm saying that you mixing me up with whomever else (I haven't seen anyone ask Kaylee specifically for reads) means that you aren't paying attention, which is exactly what you accuse her of.

[hazelkrs1]

I disagree that Kaylee seemed overaggressive. Besides, I doubt scum would put themselves in the spotlight like that early on.

 

The METAL game by Darthe game me a good insight in Kaylee's game. She was aggressive then, presenting cases and using the NKs as evidence. I thought she was scum that game because of it and never fully trusted her, which bit me in the @$$ later because we lost. I like her game now.

 

Here's you saying she wasn't being abnormally aggressive for her.

 

Kay likes to get the game started and out of the joke phase. I admire that. The first person to make that move always catches heat. I'm not going to penalize her over that.

 

And here's Ishy pretty much agreeing with you. Don't like either post.

 

And dude. Come on. Gonna start calling you Bill Clinton with your wordplay. She was explaining why she came out more aggressive. Wordtwist more, please.

[Andrej]

Des, dude, I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

 

[Andrej]

That quote is garbage btw.

 

I literally say there that I don't find Kay being overly aggressive because I saw her play a similar way in a game where SHE WAS TOWN.

 

Lame.

[Darthe]

Not my cabinet, though certainly some of my bottles.  Afraid that scotch and cigars, while cliche, just work together.

[Darthe]

WTL Des and AJ.  Just because they talk a lot without saying anything.  

[hazelkrs1]

No.

 

I'm saying that you mixing me up with whomever else (I haven't seen anyone ask Kaylee specifically for reads) means that you aren't paying attention, which is exactly what you accuse her of.

 

 

Dude you BETTER end up being scum for making me go back and fetch so many quotes for you.

 

 

So Kaylee do you have any scum or town reads?

 

BOOM. Guess it was Cloud, my bad.

 

Des:Very possibly? Either it is or it isn't.

 

Yes and I can't possibly know his alignment so I don't know if it is the same or not. In fact looking back his "Don't you agree that my action falls into "going after something that might get us nowhere" and "Letting things slide and ignoring possible leads/connections no matter how small gets us nowhere"?

 

Stands out. Like he's saying see I'm doing the same as you I am in your side.

 

I could be wrong, but it's what I feel .

 

Vote Cloud

 

 

Ninja'd by Cloud . It's early for me to say. I don't trust anyone to start out...still working in my reads.

 

I actually did misread however, so I kinda feel stupid now. I thought when she said my name she was answering Cloud about scum reads... but right after she said she got ninjad. Anyways, to continue showing you my original line of thought (I might have to go back on my town read of Kaylee now)

 

Glad I remembered to do this:

 

Message to all games: I'm now off work for 4 days, so I might be a little less active than normal, but will be back at work monday night.

 

This was the only thing I posted after.

 

Despo appears to be scum hunting ship I'm getting a town vibe from him.

 

And then here was Kaylee's next post. In my mind, she had said I could be scum when Cloud asked for reads, and then soon after she said I seemed town. Seemed more like she was going back through and actually reading again for reads, instead of just fabricating some, since she seemingly went back on a scum read of me to say town.

 

Now that I caught the part about her being ninja'd however, apparently the only read she could come up with was me looking town... This makes me feel not good about her again.

 

Still, don't like you AJ. The way you're defending her, twisting words around... the only difference is now instead of me thinking you wer buddying a townie, I think you were defending a teammate.

 

Is there still a train on Kaylee? Could go for either her or AJ atm.

 

Ooooooh AJ do you think I'm seeing which lynch will get more traction? Oh noes, I am so caught redhanded!!!

 

[hazelkrs1]

That quote is garbage btw.

 

I literally say there that I don't find Kay being overly aggressive because I saw her play a similar way in a game where SHE WAS TOWN.

 

Lame.

 

 

I never said that she wasn't that aggressive as you put it.

 

How would you like your crow served, monsieur?

 

 

And it's fine to meta-defend her, I just don't find it to be true. I think Kaylee DID start off this game way more aggressive than I'm used to seeing her start off games. Usually she coasts for a while. She is VURRRY good at endgame however. I've seen her win a few games for town with expert play at endgame.

 

WTL Des and AJ.  Just because they talk a lot without saying anything.  

 

 

And you've said almost nothing in the way of gameplay this game. WTL you pretty much any game. Imma call you Tim "The Toolman" Taylor's sidekick, cause you're acting like a toolbag

[hazelkrs1]

And I'm done with this game for now. Toodles.

[peacesells]

Cloud, Peace, Key scum team?

How about a Ishy, Peace, Despo scum team?  That look familiar?     Wouldn't that be awesome 2 games in a row?

 

Big ping from Luci. Firstly for voting Aid for no apparent reason, then for leaving Darthe and I off of her reads list.

Are you admonishing your team mate in the wrong thread?

 

You're using meta to justify a vote against someone that doesn't have a developed meta yet. Your argument is invalid

 

Awfully developed thought from drunk mafia Ishy and early game too boot.

 

 

Still like my vote on Kaylee.

[John E. Kelley]

Sweet Jesus, a coherent thought from Peace. How strange.

[John E. Kelley]

You can't come after me after this big guy...

 

[John E. Kelley]

I'ma edit. Cuz I can.

 

M'kay, mebbe not. Here's what I wanna share wit Peace.

 

http://youtu.be/mYlUe-SDqA0

 

There we are.

 

Next thing you know, they'll take my thoughts away...

[Andrej]

You drunk Ishy?

[John E. Kelley]

Shitfaced. There's a difference.

[John E. Kelley]

And seeing Megadeth at the House of Blues in Myrtle Beach tomorrow night.

[Andrej]

Haha... my man.