[Advanced] Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy Mafia (Day 6 - Town Wins)

[csarmi]

I'm sure I'm gonna love playing with Rags. He's fun.

[hazelkrs1]

Teams:

 

Rags, Mish, AJ

Pray, Peace, (Cloud)

 

That work? First one sounds very likely to me.

 

Until I see actual evidence of a second team, I'm not even really considering it.

 

I'm DEFINITELY not assuming it to already be the case, like you are.

 

You really think Wombat would have two teams that could kill each night in a 15 player game? Assuming all their kills got lucky and hit townies, and it started off 3v3v9, town could mislynch every day yet still win by D4. You really think Wombat would be fine with setting up a game that could have that happen? Or in another scenario, town could mislynch only once and hit scum every other day, yet still complete die out by D5.

 

NO. Wombat wouldn't set up a game that swingy. He's a pro, dude. two NK's one night does NOT indicate a second scum team.

[TheRagnarok]

Basically Rags, no matter what your alignment is this game, I have a feeling I won't like playing with you that much. You're playing scummy as hell, extremely illogical (since logically you should have hammered or at least voted Darthe a long time ago), and seem to enjoy both trolling and being as obstinate as possible cause you think that's fun. Essentially you'll be another Darthe, but worse.

I really like your last two posts before this. 

 

If you feel this way, then you don't know me worth a shit.  Different games call for different styles of play regardless of alignment.  I haven't played scummy imo, played logically in my mind, and sometimes trolling/being obstinate is necessary.  And I like playing with Darthe.

 

If you wanna judge my personality based on an internet forum game that has it's foundation in deception...then I feel sorry for you. 

[TheRagnarok]

I'm sure I'm gonna love playing with Rags. He's fun.

See?  This is what Mafia is about.  We have gone at each other all damn day phase and yet I bet Csarmi would be a blast to have a beer and chill with after the game.  The game thread is the game thread and we laugh it out after.  I know Csarmi has a spine despite being a lying ass.  I'll take that anyday.

[hazelkrs1]

I thought Turin's posts were poopy. Was gonna shred them apart later on when I felt like it. You getting town reads on him just goes to show how misguided you might be this game.

 

Rags is way too cocky and obstinate this game. You enjoy playing with players like that? I get the feeling you're trying to troll me too now. (and btw, there's a fair amount of peeps that don't like playing with you Salami, cause of your spamminess and gadgeting and over-the-top emo at times, and that's coming from me, MISTER Emo)

[csarmi]

Des, why is Leelou tied to me?

[csarmi]

BTW I'm trying to invent Sleepy Maffia™ here.

[csarmi]

Does that have a place?

[csarmi]

Nice posts Des I could follow them even asleep. See you're making sense when you're town.

 

Disagree tho. I'm right about the multiple teams and we need to Lynch scum. Should be like 6v3v2.

[hazelkrs1]

 

Basically Rags, no matter what your alignment is this game, I have a feeling I won't like playing with you that much. You're playing scummy as hell, extremely illogical (since logically you should have hammered or at least voted Darthe a long time ago), and seem to enjoy both trolling and being as obstinate as possible cause you think that's fun. Essentially you'll be another Darthe, but worse.

I really like your last two posts before this. 

 

If you feel this way, then you don't know me worth a shit.  Different games call for different styles of play regardless of alignment.  I haven't played scummy imo, played logically in my mind, and sometimes trolling/being obstinate is necessary.  And I like playing with Darthe.

 

If you wanna judge my personality based on an internet forum game that has it's foundation in deception...then I feel sorry for you. 

 

 

I can't judge your personality overall, only the online one you choose to exhibit. I saw you kinda go off the rails in a signup thread, and kinda act trollish in this game. Granted, it's a small sample size, but I am worried you're a player who enjoys trolling somewhat regularly. Don't get me wrong, I occasionally get in the mood to troll, but only in moderation. Doing it all the time makes you a bit of a chode, at least it makes your online persona that.

 

I generally like playing with Darthe, even love it at times, he's a fun dude. But he also aggravates the hell out of me at times as well. It's like that with a lot of players I think. But if Darthe acted like he does when he aggravates me in every game, I wouldn't like playing with him. I wouldn't hate on him and stuff, I'd just avoid him in signups.

 

You might be completely diff irl, and your online persona might be completely diff from what you've shown me so far. I haven't come to any final judgement on you in any way whatsoever.

 

And this is bridging well into personal stuff, gonna end up distracting us. Either way, I have no personal problem with you, and if I could I'd raise a beer with you at this moment... as long as it was good beer

 

 

I'm sure I'm gonna love playing with Rags. He's fun.

See?  This is what Mafia is about.  We have gone at each other all damn day phase and yet I bet Csarmi would be a blast to have a beer and chill with after the game.  The game thread is the game thread and we laugh it out after.  I know Csarmi has a spine despite being a lying ass.  I'll take that anyday.

 

 

So you're saying I'm spineless?

[TheRagnarok]

I thought Turin's posts were poopy. Was gonna shred them apart later on when I felt like it. You getting town reads on him just goes to show how misguided you might be this game.

 

Rags is way too cocky and obstinate this game. You enjoy playing with players like that? I get the feeling you're trying to troll me too now. (and btw, there's a fair amount of peeps that don't like playing with you Salami, cause of your spamminess and gadgeting and over-the-top emo at times, and that's coming from me, MISTER Emo)

I do agree on Turin.  I think he would be an excellent lynch

 

Wah?  Sorry I don't fit your idea of sweet enough.  You are one of maybe 4 people in 6 forums who have an issue with how I play so I'll manage.  And ya know...a few who thought me to be cocky ended up appreciating that aspect cause it makes them try harder to beat me. 

 

All-in-all...I don't care if you find me cocky in the thread.  Still love ya outside the game.

[hazelkrs1]

Des, why is Leelou tied to me?

 

You were the first to point out that she looked better after Verb flipped town. You even conclusively called her town at some point after that.

 

On her end, she said she would be happy to lynch you multiple times, yet only voted for you D1 in an obligatory OMGUS fashion

[TheRagnarok]

 

 

Basically Rags, no matter what your alignment is this game, I have a feeling I won't like playing with you that much. You're playing scummy as hell, extremely illogical (since logically you should have hammered or at least voted Darthe a long time ago), and seem to enjoy both trolling and being as obstinate as possible cause you think that's fun. Essentially you'll be another Darthe, but worse.

I really like your last two posts before this. 

 

If you feel this way, then you don't know me worth a shit.  Different games call for different styles of play regardless of alignment.  I haven't played scummy imo, played logically in my mind, and sometimes trolling/being obstinate is necessary.  And I like playing with Darthe.

 

If you wanna judge my personality based on an internet forum game that has it's foundation in deception...then I feel sorry for you. 

 

 

I can't judge your personality overall, only the online one you choose to exhibit. I saw you kinda go off the rails in a signup thread, and kinda act trollish in this game. Granted, it's a small sample size, but I am worried you're a player who enjoys trolling somewhat regularly. Don't get me wrong, I occasionally get in the mood to troll, but only in moderation. Doing it all the time makes you a bit of a chode, at least it makes your online persona that.

 

I generally like playing with Darthe, even love it at times, he's a fun dude. But he also aggravates the hell out of me at times as well. It's like that with a lot of players I think. But if Darthe acted like he does when he aggravates me in every game, I wouldn't like playing with him. I wouldn't hate on him and stuff, I'd just avoid him in signups.

 

You might be completely diff irl, and your online persona might be completely diff from what you've shown me so far. I haven't come to any final judgement on you in any way whatsoever.

 

And this is bridging well into personal stuff, gonna end up distracting us. Either way, I have no personal problem with you, and if I could I'd raise a beer with you at this moment... as long as it was good beer

 

 

I'm sure I'm gonna love playing with Rags. He's fun.

See?  This is what Mafia is about.  We have gone at each other all damn day phase and yet I bet Csarmi would be a blast to have a beer and chill with after the game.  The game thread is the game thread and we laugh it out after.  I know Csarmi has a spine despite being a lying ass.  I'll take that anyday.

 

 

So you're saying I'm spineless?

 

if you must know...I do every first game on a new forum this way.  Push, prod, troll a bit, annoy and see what shakes loose.  And I got Cloud out of it.  It helps me better meta reads.  people show truer colors when mildly annoyed. 

 

And no, I am not saying you are spineless.  But I do respect those willing to go toe-to-toe with me no matter what.  Regardless of everything else...he has done that.

[hazelkrs1]

 

I thought Turin's posts were poopy. Was gonna shred them apart later on when I felt like it. You getting town reads on him just goes to show how misguided you might be this game.

 

Rags is way too cocky and obstinate this game. You enjoy playing with players like that? I get the feeling you're trying to troll me too now. (and btw, there's a fair amount of peeps that don't like playing with you Salami, cause of your spamminess and gadgeting and over-the-top emo at times, and that's coming from me, MISTER Emo)

I do agree on Turin.  I think he would be an excellent lynch

 

Wah?  Sorry I don't fit your idea of sweet enough.  You are one of maybe 4 people in 6 forums who have an issue with how I play so I'll manage.  And ya know...a few who thought me to be cocky ended up appreciating that aspect cause it makes them try harder to beat me. 

 

All-in-all...I don't care if you find me cocky in the thread.  Still love ya outside the game.

 

 

 

And hey, at least you're no Ape

 

Or DPR

[hazelkrs1]

I'd go toe to toe with you as well, but my gut would put you on your ass if I did

 

[hazelkrs1]

And with that, Imma run audit. Be back in an hour

[csarmi]

@Des I'm supposing all the a...

 

Wait im wrong there.

[TheRagnarok]

I'd go toe to toe with you as well, but my gut would put you on your ass if I did

 

Oh, it is game on hahahaha.

[Pralaya]

 

## unvote vote Darthe

 

Let's see how it goes

 

Why are you voting Darthe?

 

 

Nobody seems interested in my top suspects anyway. I am not inclined to vote on the cop-claims now till we understand the format of the game. The other claim between Darthe, Csarmi and Rags is also of a similar nature. I am not a fan of info lynch but there is not much choice here now.

[peacesells]

Despo...you missed one thing about a Rag lynch.  It would give good info on Csarmi.

 

And..none of your points were OBVIOUS to the general population..maybe from your perspective..but you aren't supposed to be convincing yourself.

 

Your whole case on me is based on me CC'ing you after you made 1 post casing me.  I must be the most skiddish scum in the history of this game...wait, this is my first game right? 

 

 

Can we all agree to lynch Pral?  We have time. 

[Niniel]

What is the vc?

[hazelkrs1]

@Des I'm supposing all the a...

 

Wait im wrong there.

 

 

Despo...you missed one thing about a Rag lynch.  It would give good info on Csarmi.

 

And..none of your points were OBVIOUS to the general population..maybe from your perspective..but you aren't supposed to be convincing yourself.

 

Your whole case on me is based on me CC'ing you after you made 1 post casing me.  I must be the most skiddish scum in the history of this game...wait, this is my first game right? 

 

 

Can we all agree to lynch Pral?  We have time. 

 

I didn't miss that possibility, I mentioned it. There's really only a chance it would give good info however.

 

The best case scenario for that would be that we lynched Rags and he turned out to be a GF for "the other" scum team (in sarcasm quotes cause I don't assume there to be one like CS does). This would confirm CS's theory, support his role claim, and verify two scum teams. However, I think this scenario is extremely unlikely.

 

If Rags flips scum but not a GF, then it makes CS look better alignment wise, but doesn't confirm his role really.

 

If Rags flips town, then it really just murks up the place since it makes a redirector role possible, but also keeps the possibility that CS is scum that fake claimed as a gambit of some kind. Personally, I think this scenario is most likely.

 

 

Not all of my points are obvious to everyone, but most are.

 

"Your whole case on me is based on me CC'ing you after you made 1 post casing me" Did you seriously type that sentence out without realizing the blatant contradiction in it? I cased you before you ever CC'ed me, and tho it was one post, it was an iso on you. Incidentally, you have NEVER responded to any of the points I brought up in that case. Either way, no, my whole case on you is NOT based on your CC. It's based on the entirety of your play, which I find scummy. Oh, and it's also well within your scum meta to put out posts like this btw- "The whole case on Player X is based on (reduces entire case on said player to a trivial and innocuous looking event)?" You've done this the last 2-3 times I've seen you as scum.

 

And nope, not lynching Pray. Not today at least. At this point I'd rather lynch you than Rags. But Darthe goes first.

[peacesells]

The point was your "case" on me was weak at best, then you used my CC to try and make it real.    Basically stating I CC'd only because I am scum and am desperate.  (desperate after 1 players case on me and maybe one vote?) Then AJ fed right into it. 

 

You ignore how unlikely it would be that I'd both counter claim, then give my reads including the read discrepancy on Cloud.  There is absolutely no scum advantage to that..yet you try and paint it into some weird and strange light.  The more you do this and stick to this weak reasoning the more you look manipulative.  Compound that with AJ riding your coat tails and it all looks like team work. 

 

Rags has played very scummy this game..you've even stated so.  (Remember..you bus your team mates hard right?) Yet you call him town???????  Let's lynch someone we think is scummy per their actions.  Not some read you claim to have that could have been screwed with in a million ways if you really are a cop.

 

Rags flips scum, you and AJ are scum imo.

 

##unvote  

##vote rags

[Niniel]

Is it 5 votes on both now? 

 

Did Wombat say that deadline is when he wakes up? Not very precise. How much time do you think we have left?

 

I really prefer Rag right now. Part of it is his refusal to vote Darthe to get a lynch. Not getting a lynch today is really bad. That said, if no one else votes Rag I need to change to Darthe. Does anyone know about the vc and deadline? 

[peacesells]

Vote Count

 

Salami(1): Ragnarok

Rags(5): Salami, Turin, Tina, Darthe, Peace

Darthe(5): John Snow, Despo, Andrej, Mish, Pral

 

 

 

6 to lynch.  Deadline has been extended until I hear back from John Snow.

 

This is what I think it is.  Wondering why Wombat is waiting for JS when he has him voting.  You can hammer either of them Tina.