[Advanced] Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy Mafia (Day 6 - Town Wins)

[Darthe]

^Rag keeps ignoring this.

[hazelkrs1]

Yeah, I don't like Rags' defense either.

 

I just don't think two scum teams, both with a NK every night, is very plausible.

[Darthe]

Neither is a jailkeeper, CPR doc, Hard cop and a regular cop, a vig and an rb.

[michellem]

Seriosuly Darthe, are you daft too? Even I understand what Rags is saying.

 

 

I do. I see no other plausible explanation. I know he didn't do the kill.
No one cc'd him on it and I'm sure anyone would have town player would have done that already. so he's teamed with the player who sent in the kill.

Which means he's scum and almost surely a godfather (Despo's clear on him + if two teams, the second team would have a godfather too and who else to do the claim - GF prevents being busted by cop view).

 

 

So you are not willing at all to consider the posibility of a redirecting role then?

 

In fact, I find Mish overdoing the "I am playing a bad game" angle. Right from the beginning to yesterday, she is pretending to be naive.Yesterday's post was so fake. I am surprised that you don't see it

 

##unvote vote Mish

 

 

 

Too bad I don't fake like that. When I play shitty, I own up to it. This aint the first game where I've played a bad game, and I'm sure it won't be the last, and I've had shitty games both as town and mafia. So if that's all you've got.. Keep looking mister, because it doesn't hold up.

[hazelkrs1]

Why not? A lot of those roles have weaknesses to them... And some might be fake claims. I don't find the presence of multiple odd roles strange in a Wombat game. But two scum teams that can both NK every night in a game this size? Don't buy it.

 

Do the right thing, Darthe. Self-vote, and give reads on all players please.

[Darthe]

Daft?

 

Indeed!

 

Lol Des

[Darthe]

If I actually thoight it was goi g to be the best call I would do it. That said, if we are honest the town needs my scumhunting abilities more than it needs a PR.

 

as if

[hazelkrs1]

[Darthe]

Unofficial Vote Count

 

Salami(2): Ragnarok, Peace

Rags(4): Salami, Turin, Tina, Darthe

Darthe(4): Leelou, Despo, Andrej, Mish

Mish(1): Pralaya

 

 

Not voting (0): 

 

6 to lynch.  Deadline is tonight at 7 PM EST (just over 3 hours from now).

 

 

This is current. I'm bored. Lets get a lynch here. @Des, you still have to figure out the rag/Salami controversy as well. Why ignore that? It has as much merit in what it will say about Salmi and I as the peace/I controversy does and his PR is less useful + it confirms a PR.

 

I don't like that laya basically snuck in and slapped down a useless vote so close to DL. Just noticed that.

[Darthe]

And it is odd that Peace and Rag are voting together.

[Darthe]

Not getting a lot of feedback here.

[TheRagnarok]

I didn't do anything N1 anyways, but that shows that I didn't kill N1. Csarmi claims that I was jailed N2, so no night action, and took credit for the kill. But if I took credit for someone else's kill...where was that kill N1?

[hazelkrs1]

I think the Rags/Salami situation can be more easily figured out via NA's. The only way to truly test you and Peace, however, is lynching you.

 

I also don't like Pray's outlier vote close to a deadline. Dude needs to be policy lynched for that, he does that a lot lately.

[TheRagnarok]

^Rag keeps ignoring this.

You claiming to have blocked me? No, I'm using that as further proof that I did nothing N1 which invalidates Csarmi's theory.

[hazelkrs1]

I didn't do anything N1 anyways, but that shows that I didn't kill N1. Csarmi claims that I was jailed N2, so no night action, and took credit for the kill. But if I took credit for someone else's kill...where was that kill N1?

Rags you keep going in and in about this... Obviously we don't know if you didn't submit a NA N1 or not. You could have tried submitting the NK N1, and got blocked by Darthe, stuffing the kill.

 

Of course, this makes claiming the kill after N2 even more implausible for you as scum, considering you'd know that you were blocked N1

[Andrej]

Pretty much this is my take on things.

 

With so many claimed PRs, I'm trying to sort them out with what I see as plausible.

 

If Rag is a legit CPR Doc, without another Doc claim on the table, I can see how this would fit in the set-up with Des being a Cop and Verb being a back-up since Rag would have the potential of possibly saving or killing one of them depending on if the mafia shot at them at night. This scenario makes me think that Peace is fake-claiming Cop and that CS is also lying.

 

My feelings are reinforced with this based on how Peace is hesitant to test his own claim by lynching one of his viewings after knowing that he got a potentially false one with Cloud, but also self-voting earlier on.

 

CS's claim is a bit hard to swallow over all. Introducing a theory that there are two mafia teams without prior evidence is just sorta... eh. I don't find this likely with a 15 player game unless the two teams are very small, two apiece at most.

[michellem]

I wonder if Pral waas trying for some town cred by his Cloud vote D1.

[hazelkrs1]

Nothing has come out that has invalidated CS's theory Rags. It just wasn't a good one from the start.

[Darthe]

^Basically this.

 

@Mish how are you helpful?

[TheRagnarok]

 

I didn't do anything N1 anyways, but that shows that I didn't kill N1. Csarmi claims that I was jailed N2, so no night action, and took credit for the kill. But if I took credit for someone else's kill...where was that kill N1?

Rags you keep going in and in about this... Obviously we don't know if you didn't submit a NA N1 or not. You could have tried submitting the NK N1, and got blocked by Darthe, stuffing the kill.

 

Of course, this makes claiming the kill after N2 even more implausible for you as scum, considering you'd know that you were blocked N1

My point is the second paragraph. The first just verifies the second.

[TheRagnarok]

Nothing has come out that has invalidated CS's theory Rags. It just wasn't a good one from the start.

Because he is lying.

[Darthe]

I don't follow. Can you restate the defense?

[Darthe]

Ninjad

[hazelkrs1]

He's either lying or mistaken. He tries gadgeting a lot in mafia, and ends up either being ignored or wrong a lot.

[Darthe]

Inb4 salami/rag team