Greek Mythology: Man Vs. Gods [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS!

[dicetosser1]

Clumsy switch exists

[berf]

 

 

 

 

 

Still not sure I've seen any of these answered

 

IS THERE A CORONER IN THE GAME

 

IS MISH'S ROLE THING IN THE GAME, or

 

IS THERE NO RB IN THE GAME, OR IS THERE NO MAFIA RB IN THE GAME

 

 

 

I asked about a MAFIA redirector and was told no. Then asked about a redirector AT ALL and got told to be specific (SO WHAT WAS THE FOLLOW UP THEN?)

 

Berf my lover has claimed Coroner. If my lover is the coroner and dies i die.  I have not asked about a coroner in the game because of Despos flip. Coroner is the natural opposite of his role so logic says that if someone claimed Coroner before Despos flip then it probably is in the game. (SO, YOUR LOVER, WHO YOU SUSPECTED MIGHT HAVE BEEN 3RD PARTY OR MAFIA, CLAIMS CORONER, AND YOU DIDN'T ASK ANYTHING TO TRY AND CONFIRM THIS?? WOOOOAHHH THERE BUDDY)

 

When i asked if my lover was town i got PAFO. I dont think RTE is gonna give me info that specifies whether my lover is town or not. (SO AGAIN, YOU AREN'T EVEN WILLING TO TRY? IF YOU ASK IF THERE IS A CORONER, WHAT IS THE WORST THAT WILL HAPPEN?)

 

Please remember folks I am in OZ and RTE is on a totally different timezone. Between that and the fact i can only ask one at a time i can only get so much info. (THIS IS TRUE, BUT YOU DO REALISE WE HAVE TO PUMP YOU FOR IT?)

 

 

 

 

 

See my bolded on point two. Actually see the whole thing.

[dicetosser1]

avoiding questions? all i seem to be doing is ANSWERING them.

[berf]

Could you elaborate on the "THorum is lying" and on the "Praya is lying" options? Where am I wrong?

- "THorum is lying": that would mean Cloud is lying as well. Do you see a mafia team of Cloud, Desp and me after what happened day 1?

- "Praya is lying": and how would that explain him still being alive?

Even another option:

- "Cloud is lying". And there IS a roleblocker. How does that explain no third townie god has come forward? A good guess?

 

That's why I don't believe them (from a neutral town perspective, the first one I don't believe since I know it's not true...

 

 

 

But Mish's role... Anyone want to crunch some prospective numbers on whether this is beneficial to have around as town right now? A random roleblock every night. Conveniently to back up Thorum. Intriguing. 

 

Tried to, but we don't know how many town/mafia are roled, and that's the key number.

 

 

Or: Ithi is lying, and the real doctor is still holstering (and for some reason decided to protect Praya) ...

 

I'm open to all options, but you have to apologise me for not reposting the ridiculous ones.

 

Thorum is lying - IE you ain't a Vig. I don't see why Cloud is wrapped up in this and he becomes a liar too, if this is the case? What did I miss?

Praya is lying - Praya is roled of some sort.

Cloud is lying - wasn't even one of my options. Why are you putting words in my mouth?

 

 

I am just saying these are some of the options as to what is going on. I'm not here to say exactly what IS going on, because I don't know. 

 

And what are those ridiculous options? If you were sure they were ridiculous why not tell me why, as opposed to just letting them be swept under the carpet?

[dicetosser1]

Berf read the line BELOW your bolded one.  At that pointa comment from RTE caused me to think my lover was mafia or 3rd party. aqnd no i cant say the comment cause i cant think of anyway to do it without getting Modkilled.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ok ... let's Lynch Mish. Her Role seems a major hindrance and will actually prevent Town from doing stuff. Also if she is actually what she says she is then she helps to confirm Dice a little bit.

 

Unvote - vote Mish

 

Because I'm not a fan of 'accidently' dying.

[dicetosser1]

@ ithi   wanna tell me what questions ive avoided? 

[berf]

So Ithi is lying about being the Doc and a random decided to target Praya to protect? I don't see it happening. 

 

VOTE MISH

 

I want to test this switcheroo thing. At any rate, it is too random a power to have running loose in this game, and leaves the door open for way too much WIFOM.

[berf]

Yes, you were told your lover is TOWN.

 

You were not told if there was a CORONER in the game.

 

You can see my reasoning here I hope. You left a blank spot on the map.

[berf]

Lemme try that again

 

You were given PAFO on your lover being TOWN.

 

You confirmed nothing about the Coroner.

 

Blank spot etc.

[dicetosser1]

ok opinions people

 

I do think voting mish is a good idea. that role could cause chaos.

 

Bujt i have just been told there is no coroner. So. I have 2 questions

 

1 Does a Coroner role kinda disappear once a Janitor is gone?  I doubt it but am asking more experienced heads

 

2 Do you want to lose my role by killing my lover or not?

[csarmi]

@Dice: As far as I understood, your answers are always about the pre-game state, not the current standing of the game.

 

So I'm not sure how you phrased your question, but wouldn't the answer mean that there is no Coroner in the setup? That'd be strange with the Janitor existing btw.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Dice finally asks the Coroner question ... and is told it doesn't exist.

 

Very interesting.

 

 

People keep asking Why would a Mafia Team tie themselves together ... I think the answer is that if they pull it off then they can stay safe to the end and by then it's too late to do anything about it.

 

 

As soon as you start accepting things at face value in this game you are screwed. Stop with the Roles and believings and look at how people are actually playing. Seriously.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Official Vote Count

 

Cloud (6/8): Wombat, Mish, Csarmi, Hallia, Thorum, Tina

 

Thorum (1/8): Pral

 

Pral (1/8): Cloud

 

Mish (2/8): Ithi, Berf

 

Not Voting: Dice, Darthe, Krak, Song,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Cloud is at L-2

 

Deadline here!

[Ithillian Turambar]

ok opinions people

 

I do think voting mish is a good idea. that role could cause chaos.

 

Bujt i have just been told there is no coroner. So. I have 2 questions

 

1 Does a Coroner role kinda disappear once a Janitor is gone? I doubt it but am asking more experienced heads

2 Do you want to lose my role by killing my lover or not?

And there you go.

 

It's difficult to keep up a lie. All the little niggles and changes to make it keep on working. Eventually it all falls apart.

 

Your Role allegedly only tells you the starting positions of the game. And now you ask if things that have happened since would make a difference to the answers you receive.

[csarmi]

@Dice: could you ask the alignment of the clumsy switch?

 

Ithi & Berf - why would you want to lynch Mish?

She looks town, she seems to be telling the truth and just because her role might hurt town (not just maffia), you would waste a lynch?

 

@Mish: are you town?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Let's Lynch Mish and test out this Oracle Claim.

 

I'm thinking she is going to turn out to be a Mafia Blocking Role anyways. And if she is a Town random switch thing - then Dice looks an awful lot better. Plus all we lose is the possibility that we get screwed over by her role negative affecting us.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I think the Oracle is a Scam.

 

And even if she is Town - I don't want my Protect to fail one Night because of her alleged Role. She is setting up for there to be an accidental blocking that ends up with me dead.

 

But you all carry on.

 

I'm working now.

 

I may start lurking and let you all just play on.

[dicetosser1]

you just refuse to believe me dont you ithi. shakes head

[Thorum]

Thorum is lying - IE you ain't a Vig. I don't see why Cloud is wrapped up in this and he becomes a liar too, if this is the case? What did I miss?

Praya is lying - Praya is roled of some sort.

Cloud is lying - wasn't even one of my options. Why are you putting words in my mouth?

 

 

- If I ain't a vig, cloud is lying. THis because no one counterclaimed Vig (well, except me ... )

- which role could praya have that would prevent him from dying?

- You wanted all options, even the ridiculous ones. This option is just as unvalid as the other two.

 

Retried the maths. As long as there are more roled town than roled "mafia + third party", the odds that Mish is bad for town are greater than that Mish is bad for mafia. I guess that's a save assumption. By quite a margin.

 

unvote and vote Mish

[Ithillian Turambar]

Pretty much.

 

But then I never believe anyone in this game so it's nothing new and it's nothing personal.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Official Vote Count

 

Cloud (5/8): Wombat, Mish, Csarmi, Hallia, Tina

 

Thorum (1/8): Pral

 

Pral (1/8): Cloud

 

Mish (3/8): Ithi, Berf, Thorum

 

Not Voting: Dice, Darthe, Krak, Song,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Deadline here!

[Thorum]

Stop with the Roles and believings and look at how people are actually playing. Seriously.

 

If we did that, you'd already be dead. Luckily for you (and town), we don't.

[dicetosser1]

 clumsy switch  town??  Nope!!!

 

Vote Mish

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Official Vote Count

 

Cloud (5/8): Wombat, Mish, Csarmi, Hallia, Tina

 

Thorum (1/8): Pral

 

Pral (1/8): Cloud

 

Mish (4/8): Ithi, Berf, Thorum, Dice

 

Not Voting:Darthe, Krak, Song,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Deadline here!