Greek Mythology: Man Vs. Gods [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS!

[Ithillian Turambar]

Because I am at work all day and will not be able to reply. I'm likely to not be able to get back on until 8pm ish tonight and strange things happen when deadlines approach.

 

I have several people pushing a ridiculous GF argument on me and I really do not have time to keep saying over and over again that I am Town even though I am a GOD.

 

Either I would be Lynched in my absence ... or I would have to reveal at the last moment and their would not be time.

 

To be honest I've felt like just putting the info out there all Game. I told RTE I make a terible Doctor because I just post far too much and can't help poking about. It makes people not trust me and then I get Lynched.

 

so.

 

Info out. Carry on.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I didn't know you yet in July

 

I'm a fully blown, town vigilante. It would appear very strange to me if a second town player would be partly vigilante, partly lynch-proof.

 

And even IF HE is right, is Des' role so important that we have to keep him?

 

I have no idea what cc'ing is

 

Ithi, why claim so early?

 

As I said before, mafiascum (and the other semi-usefull mafia wiki's) are blocked at work, so I cannot check on the role specifics. Is there another way for the Des-claimed character to be third party and NOT be a serial killer?

Have I forgotten again ... but didn't Dice say there is no 3rd party?

[Ithillian Turambar]

And now work needs to be done. I'm sorry. I really will not be about - I thought it best you knew before it all went too far.

[csarmi]

I didn't know you yet in July 

 

I'm a fully blown, town vigilante. It would appear very strange to me if a second town player would be partly vigilante, partly lynch-proof.

 

And even IF HE is right, is Des' role so important that we have to keep him?

 

I have no idea  what cc'ing is

 

Ithi, why claim so early?

 

As I said before, mafiascum (and the other semi-usefull mafia wiki's) are blocked at work, so I cannot check on the role specifics. Is there another way for the Des-claimed character to be third party and NOT be a serial killer?

 

He could be some sort of survivor.

With a NK, Why not?

With some sort of unkillable? Possible.

[hazelkrs1]

I still didn't even appear on Despo's Mafia List until he made the mistake of thinking I was voting for him. His reasoning is totally OMGUS-ish and emo.

 

His post just before I went to bed last night should confirm all that. Oh - Ithi you are Mafia because you didn't unvote me blah blah blah blah

 

and supposed consolidation when as you can see I now have the grand total of 2 votes.

 

 

I'm bored. This is ridiculous and there isn't a lot of time.

 

I'm the Doctor. Now leave me alone.

 

Ninja'd. If she's lying, no CC please.

 

Unvote, Vote Thorum.

 

And Ithi just because you weren't on my recent mafia lists doesn't mean I didn't think you a little odd, basically the only thing keeping you off of those lists for a while was your god reveal. I've pointed out several of your comments that pinged way before I put you on that list.

[hazelkrs1]

At least Thorum came out and hard claimed. Won't feel so bad now if I get lynched, at the very least it will prove Thorum a LLL. Remember, unless Dice is mistaken, there is only ONE vig in the game, and that is me.

 

Still would rather yall lynch Thorum. Won't just lose a vig with me, you'll lose someone that the mafia team might have a hard time killing.

 

Also, if I'm still alive tonight, and Thorum is as well, I plan on shooting him to expose him.

[Thorum]

 

Have I forgotten again ... but didn't Dice say there is no 3rd party?

 

In my recollection, he claimed there was one.

 

 

Yep, he did

 

 

 

Okay, Desp. In what strange world would my claim make any sense if I weren't town? It won't help me anything (quite to the contrary), except to catch a probable LLL (aka, you). I was, before your claim, actually quite convinced you were town.

[Thorum]

Thorum. Are you cc'ing me or not. I want you to be as clear as possible about this.

 

Also, this is NOT a towny post.

 

Indeed, there should be only one vig    Dice, the answers you get are always 100% truthfull ?

 

You actually claimed vig, which means you were really lying... Is the word "vig" in your pm? 

 

 

And yes, I realise now I should just have vigilante'd desp. It's been very long since I've last been a vig..

[csarmi]

IMPORTANT DO NOT SKIM!!!!!!

 

Those of you who know me in the Band know im a Fighter not a Lover. Well in this game i AM a Lover. One who I think has been betrayed. 

 

I am also an Oracle. I am allowed to ask the Mod questions about the setup but can only get up to 2 words in answer. It also has to be info he would have known before characters were filled.

 

So far I know that there are 4 mafia team members. That team is ALL gods. I also asked if the major gods were the mafia. They are.

 

There is also no recruiting.

 

There are 4 Titans. They are all TOWN.

 

there is 1 third party

 

there is 1 vig

 

there is no SK

 

There IS a Godfather

 

the only teams in the game are Town, Mafia and the Lovers.

 

Now as for why i am coming forward When I asked was my lover town i was given PAFO. When i questioned it the response leads me to believe my Lover is 3rd party at best mafia at worst. And no the mod did not say anything definite. However he claimed in the QT to be the Town Coroner. I dont believe that as I cannot see a coroner being third party.  

 

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Coroner

 

 

 

SO do I

 

a) keep my lovers identity to myself

 

b) tell his identity.

 

 

Other option I tell but we dont kill which might neutralize my lover.

 

Also my Lover knew most of this answers as i shared them. Thus Mafia may already know

 

Thoughts and reasons please

 

Dice, can you clarify the information in this reveal?

Exactly one third party?

Exactly one Vig?

Do we know if the Vig is town?

 

etc.

 

Make sure you check your conversation with the mod and formulate your claims in as exact terms as possible. No vagueness. And make sure that you DO read the answers right.

[hazelkrs1]

Okay, Desp. In what strange world would my claim make any sense if I weren't town? It won't help me anything (quite to the contrary), except to catch a probable LLL (aka, you). I was, before your claim, actually quite convinced you were town.

 

 

You could be trying to do w/e you can to make sure I get lynched, since your team now knows I'll be more difficult to kill. And since I'd soon be able to vet myself, this is pretty much the last time yall will have a chance to get me lynched. Or there could be something else up your sleeve, I dunno.

 

 

Thorum. Are you cc'ing me or not. I want you to be as clear as possible about this.

 

Also, this is NOT a towny post.

 

Indeed, there should be only one vig    Dice, the answers you get are always 100% truthfull ?

 

You actually claimed vig, which means you were really lying... Is the word "vig" in your pm? 

 

 

And yes, I realise now I should just have vigilante'd desp. It's been very long since I've last been a vig..

 

 

Underlined: Look, this scummie is even starting to try and make sure he can backpedal away after he gets proven wrong! What a maroon!

 

Italics: Omg are you serious? What a dolt lol. It says vigilante in my pm. Everyone calls it vig for brevity's sake.

 

Yall really need to lynch this turkey. Either way I'll be on for a while longer, so if it gets too close to DL I can selfvote in order to prevent a random.

[csarmi]

@Despo, why would we want to lynch a Vig claim? Just have a shoot out at night, for God's sake!*

 

*pun intended

[Thorum]

Nope, I'm trying to eliminate all possibilities.

If there's exactly one vig (to be confirmed by dice), everyone will know one of us if lying their a$$es off. I know it's not me, you have to pretend you believe it's me. The others will have to make their mind up which claim they find most believable.

[hazelkrs1]

Fair enough (I'd be more than happy to shoot Thorum to prove him to be a LLL ).

 

But then who do we lynch today? There's hours left, and I don't like the idea of getting a random with no coroner info.

[Thorum]

The shootout would only work if I'm the one who's lying, since Desp's unkillable.

 

Go through all possibilities in your head, both in case I'm town and in case Desp's town. When I'm town, none of them is good for town, except getting rid of Desp today. Second best choice would be to kill me today, and lynch desp tomorrow when I turn out town.

 

 

But we first need dice's confirmation of exactly one vigilante. I have work to do as well, so I'll be offline for a while.

[Thorum]

Also, who do I vig if I make it? Any suggestions?

[Thorum]

Forgot to add it. If Desp's town, the first and second best choices would be just the other way around.

 

You definitely gotta lynch one of us today.

[hazelkrs1]

The shootout would only work if I'm the one who's lying, since Desp's unkillable.

 

Bahaha I love it! You're just making it easier and easier for others to decide the more you post! So apparently you believe that I'm unkillable from most NK's, but are also trying to act like I'm lying about being a Vig...

 

And why would a mafioso be unkillable btw? Makes no sense bro.

[Ithillian Turambar]

And why would a mafioso be unkillable btw? Makes no sense bro.

You do remember you recent game that you made right? You made it so you had to kill one of your Mafia's three times before he eventually died.

 

Just bizarre.

 

Break time. I'm going to get a coffee.

[berf]

Like in your game? No crazy rules or roles for mafia there...

 

And I believe Thorum is saying your plan is useless because you are claiming unkillable. Ie the proposal wouldnt work so why are you suggesting it? That was my interpretation.

 

And let me get this right you are super unkillable Vig guy, very important to town, but decided to play a very risky 'trap' at the game start?

 

And you suggest narrowing the lynch pool. Overall you are suggesting we narrow the lynch pool, when it isn't critical we have confirmed town at the start of the game. Hell we have halli and that is a bonus.

 

Desp is mafia. Thorum I think I might rescind my shoe comment.

[dicetosser1]

 

Cassandra was an Oracle. She was technically the possession of Apollo - and was gifted with the ability to see the future. But she spurned him and was doomed to never be believed.

 

I don't know if Apollo would be classed as Bad - but he certainly was not forgiving lol. I also have this weird feeling that Despo would be Apollo if I'm guessing right - as he said it would be very ironic when I called him Cassandra that time.

Apollo would definitely be "one of the 4 major gods", which would be mafia. 

 

I think it was tina that asked what i meant about Thorum and Apollo. Im a student of Greek mythology   no WAY Apollo is a major god. The doc is a possibility.

 

 

 

I'm also kinda surprised to find out that the Titans in this game are town. Since we know how many there are, I say they come forward and reveal themselves. We'll either get 4 confirmed townies off the bat, or else one or more of the mafia will try and cc and slip in and we will have good leads on other scum.

 

Was also nice to see myself vindicated bout the mafia=gods thing 

 

This pings.

 

1) Yea I'm sure the mod didn't think about that. 

2) Asking people to reveal information for the maffia? Seriously?

 

CS, this is actually a good idea. If everyone states his/her race, we either get 4 confirmed townies now, or a split between two groups of known mafia/town allignment.

 

I'm not a titan.

 

 

Almost forgot Unvote since it looks like Basel might be confirmed town

How? What did I miss?

 

 

We don't have to ask the doc anything. With two confirmed townies, let's not make things too easy for mafia.

 

My two cents: lets wait till after the night. Gives town more options, and mafia less. However, we need a lynch. CS's opposition to revealing titan or not looks bad...

 

 

 

 

 

Because killing Dice makes no sense. Let the maffia worry about that.

 

Lynching his lover makes even less sense. How is it better than lynching Dice himself?

I'm sure it's been spelled out before, but:

 

If Dice's lover is town, the maffia should kill Dice for us.

If Dice's lover is scum, the maffia can't kill him without removing his lover (a scum) so it's good to wait.

 

 

If Dice's lover is town, then the mafia wouldn't know who it is. You think they'd try NK'ing Dice, knowing there's a good chance Doc would protect him tonight?

If Dice's lover is scum, I think there's a good chance it would be a powerful scum role. All the more reason to off them quick.

 

Additionally, Dice's claim will still represent a small amount of wifom till he is vetted in some way. I'd rather not use the cop to do so, I think it would be better to lynch his lover (or him, they essentially amount to the same thing). That way town would have FIVE confirmed townies day 1, and for mafia to try and work against that they'd have to shoot at confirmed townies, which would keep our PR's safe and keep them from silencing people who are getting hot on their trail. If they don't go for the confirmed townies, then the cop can townhunt and town will have so many confirmed townies, that essentially the only real challenge of the game would be finding the GF, which could possibly be done by sorting through the human/titan/god claims.

 

Dice do not skim this:

 

Please, when you get a chance, ask the mod these questions:

 

1. How many humans, how many titans, and how many gods there are in the game

2. Besides Persephone, how many town aligned gods are in the game.

 

4 titans  All town..  i have now asked humans and at least 6 gods  TWO of which are Town. have not asked complete numbers of gods

 

 

I didn't know you yet in July

 

I'm a fully blown, town vigilante. It would appear very strange to me if a second town player would be partly vigilante, partly lynch-proof.

 

And even IF HE is right, is Des' role so important that we have to keep him?

 

I have no idea what cc'ing is

 

Ithi, why claim so early?

 

As I said before, mafiascum (and the other semi-usefull mafia wiki's) are blocked at work, so I cannot check on the role specifics. Is there another way for the Des-claimed character to be third party and NOT be a serial killer?

Have I forgotten again ... but didn't Dice say there is no 3rd party?

 

 

There is  ONE 3rd party.

 

IMPORTANT DO NOT SKIM!!!!!!

 

Those of you who know me in the Band know im a Fighter not a Lover. Well in this game i AM a Lover. One who I think has been betrayed. 

 

I am also an Oracle. I am allowed to ask the Mod questions about the setup but can only get up to 2 words in answer. It also has to be info he would have known before characters were filled.

 

So far I know that there are 4 mafia team members. That team is ALL gods. I also asked if the major gods were the mafia. They are.

 

There is also no recruiting.

 

There are 4 Titans. They are all TOWN.

 

there is 1 third party

 

there is 1 vig

 

there is no SK

 

There IS a Godfather

 

the only teams in the game are Town, Mafia and the Lovers.

 

Now as for why i am coming forward When I asked was my lover town i was given PAFO. When i questioned it the response leads me to believe my Lover is 3rd party at best mafia at worst. And no the mod did not say anything definite. However he claimed in the QT to be the Town Coroner. I dont believe that as I cannot see a coroner being third party.  

 

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Coroner

 

 

 

SO do I

 

a) keep my lovers identity to myself

 

b) tell his identity.

 

 

Other option I tell but we dont kill which might neutralize my lover.

 

Also my Lover knew most of this answers as i shared them. Thus Mafia may already know

 

Thoughts and reasons please

 

Dice, can you clarify the information in this reveal?

Exactly one third party?

Exactly one Vig?

Do we know if the Vig is town?

 

etc.

 

Make sure you check your conversation with the mod and formulate your claims in as exact terms as possible. No vagueness. And make sure that you DO read the answers right.

 

1 third party confirmed.

Does it matter if the vig is third party of town at this point really?  if third party they probably win WITH TOWN.  Have not asked this yet. Add to that that I now know who despo is and i believe him as a vig.

 

Someone asked about are the answers true. I assume so. they are limited to 2 words or less and lying would be bastrad modding.

[Thorum]

And is there exactly one vig, or at least one?

[Thorum]

And is there exactly or at least one vig? That's the most important question atm...

[dicetosser1]

am waiting for the answer to how many vigs

[csarmi]

Yea I tried to ask him if those numbers were exact.

[csarmi]

Having more than one town/neutral Vigs would be strange, but not unheard of. If that's the case, maybe its not such a good idea for them to be shooting one another.

 

Who are we lynching btw? Maybe we should go with Basel? Might be scum and claims vanilla.