(BASIC): The Perfect Pizza Town wins

[Tiinker]

I wanted to punish.

 

Peacesells - Dominatrx

[berf]

Mish I'm not voting you because you voted me. I'm voting you because I think you are mafia - your attack on me doesn't fit and is very zealous considering the circumstances.

 

I've made my points clear with logic and and a breakdown of my thoughts. All I can see from you is attack attack attack.

 

I think you are trying very very hard to keep me in the spotlight, but you don't have any real evidence bar your opinion of my mechanic discussions and the fact you think my case was 'forced'.

 

You have no interest in any other line of reasoning, that leads to me thinking you only post when you see the opportunity to attack me, or timing wise its 'required' of you to not appear to have dropped off the radar.

 

Pushed too hard on me, too hard given my experince playing with you previously, too hard given the evidence you are using.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

moot point but srsly papraywhazahoo read 19 flipping pages and don't ask for synopses or shortcuts to thinking

 

I'm interested in was panchi just not in or was she laying low cause of... I don't know

 

you read and then post, yeah?

[Darthe]

Krak is mafia.

 

Des is pushing anywhere away from himself and won't comment on certain players.

 

Cloud disappeared.

 

Lynch these three and win.

 

@town, VOTE DES

[Darthe]

Rorschach it couldn't take 20 minutes to catch up. Read and post.

[Basel Gill]

Vote count:

Berf (4): Kronos, Des, Mish, Tress
Mish (2): Berf, Krak
Kronos (1): Tiink
Tiink (1): Hally
Des (2): Darthe, Cindy

Not voting (3): Pralaya, Kaylee, Peace

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Tues. Jul. 23rd at 9 PM EST.
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130723T21&p0=422

Less than 24 hours to DL.

[Darthe]

Actually Rorsch, just sheep me.

 

W/E

[Darthe]

23 hours to deadline. Scum push is on Berf.

 

This is a no contest.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

if you would be less angrifying ppl would listen more

 

I had to fight my oppositional defiance to vote w my heart cause you were there pushing

 

srsly, ppl don't like being sheeped

[Darthe]

Am I badgering?

 

Yes.

 

Do you know how much effort it takes to get this crowd to make a right decision?

 

Seriously, it is like pulling teeth at times.  

 

Sheeping me and being pissed off about it works out better because I win games.

[Pralaya]

Rorschach it couldn't take 20 minutes to catch up. Read and post.

 

Sorry man, different timezone. Just woke up and am doing exactly that.

[hazelkrs1]

Krak is mafia.

 

Des is pushing anywhere away from himself and won't comment on certain players.

 

Cloud disappeared.

 

Lynch these three and win.

 

@town, VOTE DES

 

 

Dude your tunneling on me this game is ridiculous. Do you suggest I start pushing people towards my lynch, knowing that I'm town?  And tell me, who am I not commenting on?

 

Also, what's with your thing with WBK? You've been obviously baiting him with the whole Cloud thing, and just a day ago you unvoted him and admitted you were pushing on him based on nothing, and now you're back to fos'ing him again. I'll give you one thing tho, it does seem like he's disappeared. Lemme go find his last post

[hazelkrs1]

Peace...what's up with the votes without explanations?

 

This was his last post, from two days ago so not as long as I thought, but he def does seem to be lurking a bit more.

 

Gonna go look at something on Mish now

[berf]

Would that be, all of Mish?

[berf]

[peacesells]

You think?

[berf]

Both Tress and Kronos have all but vanished.

 

Sorry - Copped an early vote or two, Voted me, and then vanished.

 

[hazelkrs1]

I thought it was a really stupid thing Berf did in bringing up the triggers. I decided to roll with it an push on it, both to create some WIFOM to protect myself (I never said I was VT; Berf said that was a high possibility that I (and Krak) was, but I haven't confirmed it and I'm not going to. I also still find it super sketchy that he brought up that set-up talk in the first place) and to see how his reactions. He still hasn't managed to convince me he's town; I still feel like he was trying to get Krak and me to confirm that we were vanilla and so limit the pool of hunting for PRs. Another bonus is the reactions it's brought in others; I'm gonna go through at look at those tomorrow, right now I don't have time because I'm re-reading another game.

 

Okay so I saw this and I thought she HAD essentially claimed vanilla before in her tiff with Berf, so I went back and checked.

 

That was a deilightfully scummy post Berf. I'll cut you some slack since you apparantly hasn't played with Des when he's in tip top shape, but still. That was pretty awful.

 

Oh and:

 

 

By the way, the only two people who DIDN'T post before the Triggers were all met were Krak and Mish. Kronos even left Mish off his initial read-list too. 

 

That is all.

 

 

The game started 4.30 my time at night, and the triggers ended at around noon, wich is the time I get up (I have sleep troubles). I don't get why you feel it was prudent to point that out though.

 

 

Your post felt forced and your arguments felt made-up to me. It felt like you had to go trough it because you had put yourself in a situation with Des and couldn't get out of it. Mostly because the way you try to represent things doesn't add up with my view of how things happened and views od Des' actions doesn't match up at all; I felt like you were trying way too hard to push and angle on himt hat would make us suspect him. Add that to the pit at the end with the triggers and me and Krak, wich I still don't see the point of bringing up (unless you are rolefishing, wich is not cool) then it makes for a post that I def feels warrants a vote.

 

 

You really still think it was a good idea to point out very clearly that it's very likely both me and Krak are vanilla? How is that good for town to have out in the open so early? That is something that I preferred to WIFOM to death.

 

 

What does that mean? I'm trying to ask you why you felt it as good for town to point it out in the first place. You didn't have to. There was no reason whatsoever to do so, at least with the reasons you've provided. Please explain to me exactly how you think it was a pro-town idea to point out in the first place the thing about the triggers.

 

 

And you just conviently forgot that the point of having vanillas is to hide the town PRs? That you just made the mafia's job of finding PRs possibly quite a bit easier?

 

 

Oh yeah, thanks for getting me killed of early, really nice of you.

 

These are all the posts where she brings up the trigger thing.

 

So she never comes outright and says it, but essentially by not denying it and the manner in which she responds to a couple of Berf's points, she might as well have (unless of course that's her trying to expertly wifom her role perhaps)

 

Still, I kinda feel like the only things against her are her possibly trying to parade around her "VTness", and her buddying to me, and I don't really feel like that compares to the case on Berf. She seems to get prickly as town, seen her do it before, and she's buddied me as town before as well.

 

As for Berf, not only is the case on him pretty substantial, but he also seems to be much more aloof and reasonable now that his train has stalled, like a scummie glad to be off the hotseat for now. Still liking my vote.

[hazelkrs1]

Ninja'd

 

Both Tress and Kronos have all but vanished.

 

Sorry - Copped an early vote or two, Voted me, and then vanished.

 

 

Actually, you do make a pretty good point right here. Hmmm... 

[hazelkrs1]

Unvote

 

Berf, I'm still watching you, but which of those two you mentioned would you be more inclined to vote? I don't really see the Mish lynch tbh. I personally found Tress fairly scummy early on, and her and WBK parking their votes on you and disappearing does look pretty questionable.

[peacesells]

VOTE WEST BLOOD KILLERS

 

WBK

[Pralaya]

Uff, I skimmed through the whole thread. Not a lot of things happening in the first 10 pages and things escalate quickly.

 

Berf: The main thing going against him was the train bandwagon he tried to start. However, at Day 1, it does not look scummy at all and all too obvious. Wifom or not, too much of a risk to do if he was scum. Givin him a pass

WBK: Was the first to jump on Berf's case. Clearly, looks like pouncing on an opportunity when others were looking elsewhere. 

 

Des:  All over the place. It is interesting to see that when Berf posts the "Despo train", Des remains silent till someone votes on Berf and then starts jumping on it

This post looks really scummy to me - he accuses WBK first, mentions that nobody is following his lead on Tress and then proceeds to vote Berf after all that  Looks to be distancing from WBK. Still, giving the benefit of doubt due to it being just one post.

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/83531-basic-the-perfect-pizza-day-1/page-11?do=findComment&comment=2981622

 

Mish and Tress: Leaning towards scummy but not getting good reads at the moment. Will be looking at them in the future.

 

Darthe looks like town. 

 

Missing some others but not getting much reads now.

WBK seems to be the top scum for now. 

 

vote WBK

[hazelkrs1]

I'll roll with that

 

Vote WBK

[berf]

Watch me all you like Desp, as I watch you. I'm just calling out patterns as I see em.

 

I've gone back and Tress looks like she believes the case she put on me, without being overly vigorous about it. The whole fence sitting thing is because I don't think she wanted to out and out say "I think Darthe is town this game", as that puts the major focus on "WHAT? TOWN? SO EARLY? HOW DO YOU KNOW!?" The stuff with Desp... Who knows. It seems honest enough. Time will tell.

 

WBK eh... Somewhat lazy case notes to begin but not much to go off anyway. His vote on me is... flaccid, to say the least. Votes me for joining the train (iiirrrooonnnyyyyy) and for saying I'm not moving my vote, which apparently = not looking for scum.

 

I'd have to go with WBK if forced between the two.

[berf]

Although my preference remains Mish, obviously. Is that WKB at 4 votes now?

 

And welcome Praya. In one post, already you have made contribution to the game.

 

It's not that difficult, people.