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November 7th, 1606: Day 4 (CONCLUDED)

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Nolder Spam Master

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I just woke up. The case on Yates seems pretty convincing. Especially BG's post.

 

I'm not sure that I want to lynch a claimed Watcher though. I wish someone would CC that would make my life easier here.

Peace was on my list of suspects to watch for but I'm not entirely sure why there is a train on him right now.

 

Ugh brb I'm going to eat breakfast and then I'll decide where to vote.

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Verbal32 Spam Master

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Oh - above goes for BG, too. Can only lynch ONE SCUM AT A TIME. Verb unveiled himself as scum AFTER MY VOTE.

 

Where's the mystery???

 

You've called me scum multiple times since thinking I may or may not be.  So why not vote me?  Town wouldn't care about self-preservation like you seem to.  Trading a watcher for scum, right?  Why fight so hard?

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Verbal32 Spam Master

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But I don't think you're scum. Yet.

 

So here is the stated "Yet".

 

 

 

 

Probably because you are scum. I'll find out tonight. Hugs and kisses.

<blah blah>

 

You know who has to resort to that? Scum.

 

<blah blah>

 

The fact you aren't means you are probably scum with Nolder.

 

<blah blah>

 

Scum is some combination of Nol, Verb, Peace, and Serra in this thread.

 

 

Yeah, only 4 references that I'm scum.  In 1 post.  Yep.

 

 

 

 

 

Yates - Didn't you say that the cop probably had viewed you? But now you say that you don't believe that there is a cop.

Yup.  I wasn't expecting to have to claim today so I wanted scum to think I was just VT.  But scum Verb got me to claim.  *shrug*

FTR - I still believe investigative roles would have checked me out early in all 3 threads - I just happen to BE the investigative role in this one...  :wink:

 

 

Another mention that I'm scum.  Not *might* be - note the absence of any modifier to that point.

 

 

 

 

 

isn't it strange that he thinks so strongly that Verb is scum..but started a run on me based on nothing?

Actually, I'm pretty sure I called Cloud/Nol before the Cloud flip.  I could quote the post but - too lazy.  Night actions and votes for Razen pointed to you.  That's why I'm voting for you.  I was decidedly undecided on Verb.  I'm still not 100% on him but I'll find out tonight.

 

 

Yeah dude, totally undecided.  I get it.  In no way did you make your thoughts on my alignment known.  Nope.  Not at all.  Glad we cleared this up.

 

 

 

That was heavy sarcasm, btw.

Yates Master

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The case on Yates seems pretty convincing. Especially BG's post.

Yeah.  Not really.  Glad you had to jump on board with your scum buddy, though, to make this obvious.

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Verbal32 Spam Master

Verbal32

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The case on Yates seems pretty convincing. Especially BG's post.

Yeah.  Not really.  Glad you had to jump on board with your scum buddy, though, to make this obvious.

 

 

I'm not scum.

 

I'm slightly nervous about your flip after seeing you flip scum in T3.  Chances aren't that high you're scum in both.....but I stand by my case.  You were SUPER scummy, and got lynched for it.  By me.  Like I said I would.

bgrishinko Grand Master

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You never did respond to my post... and considering you DID just flip Mafia in T3, I was actually right on the money that you had to be mafia in at least 1 thread based on your partial but not vocal support of Serra's plan.

 

Now its just a matter of seeing if you are lying here as well.

Yates Master

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Well, the good news is that I lied about being a watcher.

 

The bad news is I was a bus driver.

 

Night Action - N1: Drive Yates and Mr_Ree

Night 1 I was trying to avoid a NK.

Night Action - N2: Drive Yates and Nolder

I was hoping scum would target me N2 as well - thus redirecting the kill to Nolder.

 

Anyway - Nolder and Verb are scum 1 and scum 2.  Whoever the 3rd party killer is better target one of these 2 tonight if you want a chance to win.

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Verbal32 Spam Master

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Well, the good news is that I lied about being a watcher.

 

The bad news is I was a bus driver.

 

Night Action - N1: Drive Yates and Mr_Ree

Night 1 I was trying to avoid a NK.

Night Action - N2: Drive Yates and Nolder

I was hoping scum would target me N2 as well - thus redirecting the kill to Nolder.

 

Anyway - Nolder and Verb are scum 1 and scum 2.  Whoever the 3rd party killer is better target one of these 2 tonight if you want a chance to win.

 

Wow.  If you are a townie, this is downright reckless.  You do realize your watcher claim is what got people to push your lynch through, right?  It was as much that as it was you flopping around at the end of my hook.

 

Oh well, I welcome a scum shot.  It'll be a shot that doesn't hit our Cop.

Yates Master

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If you are a townie, this is downright reckless.

 

Oh well, I welcome a scum shot.  It'll be a shot that doesn't hit our Cop.

Liar.  Liar.  Your pants.  I believe they are on fire.

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Verbal32 Spam Master

Verbal32

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Hmm...I was just thinking back and wondering who would have shot Leelou on N1 in this game.  I removed dead players, and soon-to-be-dead Yates.  And myself.

 

Players:
2. Chuckles
4. Mish
6. Hally
7. Nol
9. BG
11. Razen
12. Lenlo
15. Dap
16. Peace
17. Krak
19. TinaHel
20. Ree
21. Prelaya
23. Serra

 

 

Admittedly, this is a total meta read.  My thought is that Dap or Tina is most likely.  I'll be casing them tomorrow and see if they deserve a lynch.  Or, if Yates flips town, I'll probably be busy fending off an angry mob, lol.

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Verbal32 Spam Master

Verbal32

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If you are a townie, this is downright reckless.

 

Oh well, I welcome a scum shot.  It'll be a shot that doesn't hit our Cop.

Liar.  Liar.  Your pants.  I believe they are on fire.

 

 

Ha!  Now I know you're lying!

 

I'm not wearing pants!!!!

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Verbal32 Spam Master

Verbal32

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After Yates flips town, I'll be busy getting lynched.  Unless I'm shot tonight.

The worst part about being dead will be that I can't continue with my mancrush on Verbal.  He so dreamy!!

 

 

You were saying?

Nolder Spam Master

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The case on Yates seems pretty convincing. Especially BG's post.

Yeah.  Not really.  Glad you had to jump on board with your scum buddy, though, to make this obvious.

 

Which scumbuddy is that again? You've given me so many by this point it's hard to remember.

Krakalakachkn Spam Master

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Then Razen comes in with this gem. I gotta admit my thoughts on Dap was "half serious", in the way that it was an idle thought at the back of my head; it could be a possilibty. But mostly I do have a town feel on him, and I put that out to see who would bite. And lo and behold, Razen did, very eager to jump onto that train of thought. But, not eager enough to place the first vote... Because what I said Dap might have done, is exactly what I thought Razen did at the start of D2. Also, Cloud voted Razen on D2, wich I felt came across as distancing.

Gotcha. Vote Razen

 

There are others I find suspect too.

 

Hallia: Floats by D1 with minimal posts and not much thouhts. Actually, she doesn't come with a proper game post until she comments at the start of n1 that Des' hammer was "shoddy". In the meantime Krak comes with a case on Serra (who placed Csarmi at L-2, first vote afters his BPV claim), and Hallia responds to that with "Possibly a scum mate protecting a scum hammer by drawing attention to the person who put Csarmageddon to L-2?" Now we know now that Des was town, but it seems to me she is trying to draw attention away from Serra again, and back over on Krak and Des. That is all the game-related posts I can remember from Hallia. She has 8 posts in this game, even less than me, and my posts counts before today was horrible. It is also half of theamount of posts she has in the other threads. Pretty safe bet for mafia if you ask me.

 

Now, Serra. I've been very back and forth on him, but I've landed on a slight scum tell. This because of him being the first to vote Csarmi after his BPV claim. Then he slightly defended Cloud about his vote on Yates, D2 after Csarmi's flip he says he's much less convinced about Cloud (distancing?) and he wants to go after Peace (I've already explained why I have a strong town feel on Peace now). And then, after saying he is much less convinced about Cloud, he links Peace and Cloud together. That just doesn't add up.

Wait.  You're saying I'm suspicious because I didn't post much on D1.  Didn't you mention somewhere when you were called out that it usually takes you until D2 to get going?  Doesn't make sense to me.  I contributed as much as I could, but this past week's restricted internet hours I did have some constraints.

 

 Now that it is D2 I see that's true;  you make some very good points on Raz.  Raz, what's your thoughts on that case?

 

Vote Raz

 

 

Why would Hallia ask Raz what his thoughts are, like he's not going to post them?  Why vote him right away and then...

 

Going back and rereading has changed my mind as far as Raz goes.  Raz was right alongside Dap in calling Cloud mafia.  So  Raz went through and made

 

 

 

 

Me?

 

I've been saying for ages that I thought cloud was mafia on this thread

(This is T2 right?)

 

Yes, this is thread 2.  And that is the same conclusion that I've been drawing.  I'll be back in a bit with quotes.  Right here; this is one of the reasons I am disinclined now to vote for him.

 

 

 

Wow. Best case ive seen so far in these threads and it looks good to me.

Vote Razen

Someone that bugs me: Hallia. In almost every thread she looks like shes just skating by and posting agreeable comments, nothing to risky nothing that might get questioned or get her looked at.

 

Weak reasoning, doesn't point out exactly what looks good.

 

Calls out Hallia after Hallia goes against Mish and what becomes a train.

 

I'm the Town Doctor.  I need to go back and pull quotes right now so I can fully respond to that case.

Not buying it. Who did you protect?

 

I'm feeling a Raz Hallia scum team in here.

 

Feels like reaching.  Although I never noticed that Raz answered this....

 

 

So I'll ask again - are those the MAJOR points of your case? Yes or No?

 

Yes.  I freely admit it isn't an airtight "case closed" type of case that is an auto-lynch of scum.  This is more the secondary thoughts that occur to me after reading your posts again.  At first pass, they seems pretty standard and reasonable......until I read again and try to look behind the words.

 

I really, REALLY don't like how Verb decides to throw that bit in about how he's sure......but not that sure.  You're going all out against Yates here, don't try to throw in a "well I might be wrong" bit in there. Reeks of an escape hatch.

 

 

 

Wait.....THAT was your defense?!  It was worse than my case!!!!!  I'll expound....

What can I say. Crapty cases require an equal level of crapty response.

 

I like what you did there.

 

UNVOTE VOTE YATES

I'm comfortable with a Yates lynch

 

Ill be more helpful tomorrow. I'm casing Y3 tonight and ill do this tomorrow

 

FOS baby, big time.

Yates Master

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You've given me so many by this point it's hard to remember.

Good point.  I'll be crystal clear.

 

Scum 1 - Nolder

Scum 2 - Verb

Scum 3 - Peace

Scum 4 - BG or Serra

 

Hope that clears things up for Town.

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Verbal32 Spam Master

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I really, REALLY don't like how Verb decides to throw that bit in about how he's sure......but not that sure.  You're going all out against Yates here, don't try to throw in a "well I might be wrong" bit in there. Reeks of an escape hatch.

 

That was in the beginning.  The point was that my case points were not super strong on their own; rather, they are supported by looking behind the words and reading in between the lines.

 

Don't take anything for face value, son.

 

Also, stop trying to line me up for tomorrow's lynch.  You scum and know Yates will flip town?  Let me add you to the people I might lynch tomorrow.

Yates Master

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Let me add you to the people I might lynch tomorrow.

Not a problem.  I have already provided that handy list.

 

Scum 1 - Nolder

Scum 2 - Verb

Scum 3 - Peace

Scum 4 - BG or Serra

 

Hope that clears things up for Town.

Krakalakachkn Spam Master

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I really, REALLY don't like how Verb decides to throw that bit in about how he's sure......but not that sure.  You're going all out against Yates here, don't try to throw in a "well I might be wrong" bit in there. Reeks of an escape hatch.

 

That was in the beginning.  The point was that my case points were not super strong on their own; rather, they are supported by looking behind the words and reading in between the lines.

 

Don't take anything for face value, son.

 

Also, stop trying to line me up for tomorrow's lynch.  You scum and know Yates will flip town?  Let me add you to the people I might lynch tomorrow.

 

 

Damn.  Defensive much?

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