Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game 1 - Destiny Islands [Mafia Win!]

[Yates]

Man.  Even that's a mess.  Bah.  Too tired to fix.  You get the gist.

[Verbal32]

Only person I'm really suspicious of on your train is Krak, Verb. What are your feelings on him, and Yates? And do you trust your "viewing" on Hallia?

 

As for the slip thing, I dunno. It's too recent for me to think it couldn't have been an intentional breadcrumb for a fake claim.

Krak: early muddling with Tina, right? On the fence. I don't usually view from middling reads - either confirm my top ones or I take a shot at ones that have no read but might give a tactical benefit.

 

Yates: all over the place. Has gone from scummy to townie within the span of a few posts, and back again.

[Verbal32]

Would it be presumptuous of me to ask that I'm brought down to L-2 for the immediate future?

 

If nobody does anything about it and we need a lynch, you'll hammer the uncontested cop. I really really really don't want that to happen.

[dapianoplay3r]

unvote

 

I don't leave unCCd cops at L-1. Lucky for you verb I just woke

[Verbal32]

I love you a little.

[dapianoplay3r]

I love you less

[Yates]

Very sweet.  Is Des scum or am I omgus-ing?

[Verbal32]

I love you less

Your words cut deep.

[Yates]

Is Des scum or am I omgus-ing?

[Hallia]

I have a hard time telling with Despo.  He makes many large, informative posts, and most of the time I always get a town vibe from him.  He's hard to read!

[hazelkrs1]

 

I never remember anyone asking you why you stopped voting Hallia. I think you're making that up to try and support your claim.

Why are you lying?

 

Verbal - who are you suspicious of? Me? Cause I´ve not seen you mention any names today... or yesterday.

Look harder. Yesterday I was all about Hallia. Today I haven't made a decision, but your full court press has gotten my attention. ;-)

Saying "I'll do that as well" instead of "I'd do that as well" could have either been a grammatical mistake, a slip, or a breadcrumb at a fake claim.

Straws. Grasp at them much?

To the first thing: I didn't lie. I said I hadn't seen anyone ask Verb why he wasn't voting Hallia anymore. He said people had. You quoted HIM mentioning that he wasn't voting Hallia anymore. Fail.

 

As for the second thing, you're saying I was stretching, Mr. Meatloaf man?

 

Left out the rest cause its stupid. Weak attempt to start a case there Yates.

[hazelkrs1]

Also, Unvote.

 

Was thinking about removing my vote before after I saw Verbal's "slip", but thought it might be worth it to let him sit at L-1 a little longer. Would have been worth losing the Cop to out one of the remaining scum. Oh well.

 

As for who to vote for... I'm def thinking either Yates or Krak. I kind of think scum Krak wouldn't have thrown that thing out there about modifying wiki's. Seems more like paranoid Krak than scummy Krak. So that's made me slightly leas confident in Krak's scumminess.

 

Yates still has a great case on him I think. And he's scrambled about as much as DPR did in response to cases on him. His reads look like garbage (town read on Tina and GF, and I know I'm town), and his case on me looks like weak sauce, but he's tried building up to it for a while. Vote Yates

 

Still don't quite trust Verbal, but there is reasonable doubt and we can give him more time to try and vet his claim.

[Yates]

Day 1 - [Long forgotten]

 

 

 

File this under DESPO IN MAFIA COVER MODE. heh

Don't give me away DPR! Our gambit is too obvious!

 

Interesting way to set up a fake distance right off the bat so if one of them got nailed the other can say "OBVIOUSLY we aren't aligned per this joke right here!"

 

Then he starts casting doubt on his scum buddy on the same page:

@DPR: if you were half-joking, I'm twice as awesome as you cause I was completely joking. Sad you didn't pick up on that.

 

Also, you seem awfully eager to start sowing discord in the game when its still N0...

Step 2 - find a strong Town to buddy.

I stole the words out of Darthe's mouth.

 

 

I think I need to go wash my hands now.

 

Darthe, should I be scared?

Check.

 

Step 3 - Have sacrificial goon attack the "buddies!"

I commented on Despo's post because he seemed to be trying too hard - something I just watched him do as mafia in the last game.

 

Darthe's post just seemed weird and out of nowhere, making me think he knew something about the game that hadn't been posted on the thread - like he'd made a mod request and had been denied.

 

It's 24 hours until night. These are my two best choices for scum so far. Gotta start somewhere.

 

Vote Despo

Step 4 - Kill anybody that might figure out the gambit.

Des, why were you ostensibly trying to encourage setup talk N0? That's pretty anti-town.

Des is always a bad guy.

Step 5 - Have buddy find an opportunity to unvote.

Unvote Despo - Vote Darthe.

Step 6 - Keep quiet and see how drama plays out.

Haven't caught up yet, at work tho I can in a bit

Step 7 - "Oh, they are finding my buddy scummy and have a wagon on him? Time to trash him then vote him toTown myself up!"

Post 228 - "Okay second rant. DPR, I wish I had never ended up playing in a game with you. I always had tons of fun in your games when you modded; you were widely considered the best mod on DM. As a player however, you sir are a douche and a half. Your like the least favorite parts of several players I know all rolled up into one d-bag. Quit being such a pompous arrogant clown man. Try some humility, it might taste funny at first but it sure does go down smooth in the long run."

Post 229 - "Vote Dpr"

Also of note? "I don't like Tina either."

 

Step 8 - Implement fakeclaim discussed in chat:

I'll post more in a bit in response to what I see happening and players setting up meta, etc. But for now, I'm the Beloved Princess.

Step 9 - Pretend to be baffled by fakeclaim so as to not raise suspicion:

Is that a character claim? I thought those were off limits...

If that's a role I'm not familiar with it

The irony here is this; isn't he one of the people busting my balls about not looking up "Symp" when Mish flipped? Oops.

 

And finally Step 10 - Feign distain at achieving no lynch Day 1:

Big surprise, we didn't achieve a lynch.

 

 

Knowing that DPR's claim was a role and not a character, it seems like waaaay too convenient a claim.

Now this claim he had never heard of is "waaay too convenient" because he understands it so well. Just found his excuse to restart the wagon that almost went through and cash in on my Town points!

[Yates]

I'm too tired to do days 2 and 3 right now. I'll try to get at least day 2 up before I OFFICIALLY crash for the night.

[hazelkrs1]

Simplified case on Yates:

 

1. He could have tried faking that viewing on Mish as an attempt to derail DPR's lynch, not knowing Mish was a symp

2. He defended DPR's lynch more than anyone

3. Pleaded for us to vet DPR instead of lynching him

4. Acted bitter about DPR's lynch afterwards

5. Put out a sketchy, and convenient, Miller claim out there. Was cryptic about it too, said full claiming wouldn't have been a good idea

6. Why me=fry me. Got pretty defensive when he started seeing cases on him

7. Garbage reads, persisted on easier lynches like Hallia. Also recently started OMGUSing towards me

 

Vote Yates yall

[hazelkrs1]

LOL- just read up on Yates' weak ass case on me. Lawlz!

 

 

You just convinced me of your scumminess Yates. Try harder next time.

[Yates]

And this is on top of trying to push through the cop's lynch today in the hopes no one would notice.

 

THEN he has the gall to try to discredit ME for pointing out an L-1???

 

Oh look, now Yates is expressing caution for Verbals lynch, after earlier it was Verbal doing that for Mish

Suck it...

 

It's fine, I was just thinking that perhaps we should get a claim first to be on the safe side.

Might have been nice even if in this case the result ultimately would have been the same.

 

Agreed. Who are your top four?

 

Yeah. I reiterate, he can suck it. He's busted. There is ZERO Town reason to not wait for a claim. And even LESS reason to let an un-cced Cop claim sit at L-1 in a game with 24 hour days and distracted players. Screw that. Try to explain THAT away Desp...

[Yates]

Simplified case on Yates:

Simplified rebuttal:

1. Making stuff up

2. Trying to pretend being wrong = scum while summarily ignoring the fact that it is mathematically impossible for the counterwagon to be entirely comprised of scum

3. Trying to pretend vetting a claim is antiTown - WHILE UNVOTING VERB TO VET HIS CLAIM!!!

4. Lie - acted annoyed at anti-Town play? Yes. Annoyed at lynch? Negative. Also ignoring the fact there is NO reason "scum Yates" would act bitter in thread. But pretend you don't see that.

5. Darthe knew what was up.

6. Let me once again throw out this catchy buzz word so people think it's something even though it's disproved time and time again and not worth the electricty it cost to light up the pixels in the word

7. Garbage reads - like nailing Mish?

 

Your "case" is a steaming pile of wifom, what if, and hooey. It is, in a word, a turd.

[Yates]

LOL - you are SO busted Des! Your biggest mistake was in thinking you were on an obv Town level. Why did you kill Darthe last night? Saw he was getting a Town read on me and it was ruining your plans?

[WolfbrotherKronos]

unvote

 

I really have a feeling that Yates or Despo is mafia.

 

I have to go with

 

Despo

 

I understand the reasons why he doubts Verbal's claim, but continuing to go after an un CC'd cop is meh.

[Yates]

Bottom line - go read my case on him. Then, what's funny is he doesn't even realize he did this, go read my "defense" of his case on me. If you don't see the cognitive dissonance there, you better look up what the word means! It's chalk full of "you doing this is scummy - but I'm gonna do it when it's convenient for me and pretend it's not scummy when I do it."
 

VOTE: DES

 

You should too!

[Yates]

Also, I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner.  I think I was thrown by the fact he wouldn't post until way late in the day and just parrot other people's cases with his own flavor.

 

I am as sure of Des scum as I was Mish scum.

 

If we lynch Des and he flips Town - I will SELF VOTE.

[Yates]

Hey Des, who started the Tinker mislynch yesterday then disappeared?

 

hrmmmmmm meh I guess I'll get a train started on Tiinker to mebbe set up some competing trains. Yates' case is a little... out there in some respects (not that I think it's weak at all), and Krak I think has a good case against him but not quite as strong as Verb or Tinkers.

 

Vote Tinker

Here's another question - why didn't you even bother to mention Tiinker in your catch up post? You know, since you were VOTING for him and started the wagon and all...

 

Oh - and how did the WHYMEFRYME thing work out with Tiinker? Glitch in the system?

 

Also like how you are lining up your lynches now that Darthe is your pal and chum. I mean, LITERALLY the next post:

Thought this would be worth posting. The Krak scum read looks like it could have been distancing to me...

 

/Brofist engaged

 

Oh, and can you explain why you disappeared AGAIN but were somehow on immediately after the mislynch to post THIS gem?

Tbh once I saw Yates saying we should lynch Hallia or Tink I was starting to think Tink might be town.

"Guise! I'm using my hindsight vision to tell you Tiinker is Town! Imma try to go back and time and save him but the game won't let me. Soooo sad."

[Yates]

Des? Why are you suddenly not here again? Hoping you won't have to face the music? Hoping to delay the game and get another no lynch so you don't burn?

 

YOU ARE SO BUSTED!!

[Yates]

On that note, I guess I'm going to go brush my teeth. Pee. Wash my hands. Check the thread one more time. Then sleep soundly tonight.