[Basic] Jaws: Game Over - Town Wins

[lolguy26]

Hmm I agree with a lot of the points you make dude, I just have a question, since when do I have a meta? And why did no one tell about this?

[dapianoplay3r]

So you agree you are scummy, but you want to concentrate on your meta

That looks like an attempt to show a lack of meta to defend yourself. That's defending using meta

 

Everyone has meta. I had a go at hally for her meta in her second game I think. Everyone has meta

[lolguy26]

Oh I never said that, I agree that I didn't take a stand until later on and that I don't like being called scummy, but tbh Ill have to agree I've been lazy and scummy'

[dapianoplay3r]

So why should be not lynch you

[lolguy26]

Nothing at all, I mean you could not lynch me and maybe lynch a PR or maybe lynch mafia, but other than that I'm not sure there's any reason.

(I could say I'd try and not be lazy or something like that, or I could fake claim something to save myself but I don't think its worth it)

[csarmi]

Chuckles, we should be lynching scum now, not much margin left for errors. 10 players alive is not a lot. Considering that usually ~1/4 is scum.

[csarmi]

In fact, as this is a basic game, it's very likely that we started with 3 scum, 9 townies and an SK, as 12/4=3

[peacesells]

that's a pretty solid case against chuckles.  His response is a bit perplexing.  Chuckles..you just giving up?

[Darthe]

Nothing at all, I mean you could not lynch me and maybe lynch a PR or maybe lynch mafia, but other than that I'm not sure there's any reason.

(I could say I'd try and not be lazy or something like that, or I could fake claim something to save myself but I don't think its worth it)

 

This is the crappiest response ever.  Vote Chuckles.  Confirm Vote.  

[peacesells]

 

Nothing at all, I mean you could not lynch me and maybe lynch a PR or maybe lynch mafia, but other than that I'm not sure there's any reason.

(I could say I'd try and not be lazy or something like that, or I could fake claim something to save myself but I don't think its worth it)

 

This is the crappiest response ever.  Vote Chuckles.  Confirm Vote.  

 

 

Aren't you concerned that even though Dap has made such a strong case against Chuckles that Dap isn't voting him?

[Darthe]

Not compared to that response.  

[peacesells]

Not compared to that response.  

Please explain.

[Darthe]

Reasons for not voting someone that you case:

 

You want other reactions

You want their response

They don't warrant a vote yet 

You intend to do more research/casework

you are mafia playing it safe

 

I am certain that others exist but of the five quick things I can think of only one of them is mafia related and it is a pretty bad play for mafia to make, thus dap likely didn't vote for another reason.

 

However, when you have perhaps the best case made all game stacked against you and you reply to it with "If you lynch me, I could be a PR or I could be mafia, who knows?" you're literally begging to be lynched.  

 

No PR worth their salt would do this, so he clearly isn't a PR because if he was then the mafia would know he isn't mafia and he just now associated himself with having a role.  Thus: he gets a vote for being bad at this.  Very very bad.

[lolguy26]

 

Nothing at all, I mean you could not lynch me and maybe lynch a PR or maybe lynch mafia, but other than that I'm not sure there's any reason.

(I could say I'd try and not be lazy or something like that, or I could fake claim something to save myself but I don't think its worth it)

 

This is the crappiest response ever.  Vote Chuckles.  Confirm Vote.  

 

 

lets see how many follow you darthe 

[peacesells]

Reasons for not voting someone that you case:

 

You want other reactions

You want their response

They don't warrant a vote yet 

You intend to do more research/casework

you are mafia playing it safe

 

I am certain that others exist but of the five quick things I can think of only one of them is mafia related and it is a pretty bad play for mafia to make, thus dap likely didn't vote for another reason.

 

However, when you have perhaps the best case made all game stacked against you and you reply to it with "If you lynch me, I could be a PR or I could be mafia, who knows?" you're literally begging to be lynched.  

 

No PR worth their salt would do this, so he clearly isn't a PR because if he was then the mafia would know he isn't mafia and he just now associated himself with having a role.  Thus: he gets a vote for being bad at this.  Very very bad.

 

You forgot:

distancing from a team mate

Building a false case to keep up a previous promise to build one

Building a case hoping town players will jump on it and allow you to place your vote later thus looking like you didn't lead a lynch when looking back at vote counts.

 

 

There are a ton of reasons to build such a case as scum while not voting. 

 

I don't know which reason Dap was using but he is scum.  I know so as I am the Cop.

 

VOTE DAP

[Darthe]

Unvote Vote Dap

 

Well played good sir, that was fairly amusing actually.  

 

Hey Ishy and Csarmi.  I was right

[John E. Kelley]

Alrighty then.

 

Unvote. Vote Dap.

[dapianoplay3r]

Really. I wake up to this

 

I was just going to start a new case

 

Btw I most certainly was leading the chuckles lynch. People always freak out that I don't vote straight off the bat. It's the reason I do it. I almost always save my votes.

[John E. Kelley]

Be that as it may, the fact that you don't deny Peace's allegation is damning. Just conceding this one gracefully?

[dapianoplay3r]

I'm not the cop, so I can't counter claim

I could say I'm not mafia but who would believe me without a counter claim

[dapianoplay3r]

You can lynch chuckles and see but I'm not sure on him. He's probably mafia but if he is what would that prove?

I could just be throwing a teammate under

 

So yea, might as well just die in peace, (no pun intended), and concentrate on games that actually care what I have to say ATM

[peacesells]

Sorry Dap...this game was a bit off your recent meta..that's why I investigated you first.  I was real close to looking at someone else until near the end of day 1.   At least this will give you an opportunity to tie up your meta.

[dapianoplay3r]

Entirely due to the small number of posts, there hasn't been much to go on IMO

 

You should change your meta btw. Now that you've claimed i can see the fact that you are on your cop meta. I was so sure you were scummy

[peacesells]

Entirely due to the small number of posts, there hasn't been much to go on IMO

 

You should change your meta btw. Now that you've claimed i can see the fact that you are on your cop meta. I was so sure you were scummy

 

 

Yeah..I was realizing that and it's the only reason I outed you now and not saved my info for day 3.  I need doc protection tonight cause I was too dead on you. 

[dapianoplay3r]

Tbh I hadn't noticed, I was more concerned with your reactions on my cases. You seemed far too unconcerned (obviously it was you planned a reveal)

Now I realise the meta cop thing