[Basic] Jaws: Game Over - Town Wins

[lolguy26]

i wanted to check if he had any other reason, and why is it a valid reason?

[Darthe]

 

so BG your voting darthe because he didnt want to lynch anyone D1?

If he is, do you disagree? Because I find it to be a very valid reason.

 

 

On what premises?  No lynch is as valid an option as lynching in the right circumstances and Basel was not putting off scum reads.  I would rather not kill people I think town, wouldn't you agree?

 

You're.. interesting this game.  Poking about with very little of the casework and disregard expected of your usual play.  But more on that later.   

[peacesells]

 

 

so BG your voting darthe because he didnt want to lynch anyone D1?

If he is, do you disagree? Because I find it to be a very valid reason.

 

 

On what premises?  No lynch is as valid an option as lynching in the right circumstances and Basel was not putting off scum reads.  I would rather not kill people I think town, wouldn't you agree?

 

You're.. interesting this game.  Poking about with very little of the casework and disregard expected of your usual play.  But more on that later.   

 

 

This statement describes Dap more than Ishy imo. 

 

Dap hasn't done any of his usual big cases.   He has continually taken small shots at others without really committing.  I think the if everyone would look at his posts they'd be a bit strange.

[dapianoplay3r]

Cos there isn't particularly much for me to sink my teeth into. We only have 17 pages.

 

I was going to do my case now but I've got my dentist appointment moved forward (getting a crown) so ill do it when I get back this afternoon

[peacesells]

Cos there isn't particularly much for me to sink my teeth into. We only have 17 pages.

 

I was going to do my case now but I've got my dentist appointment moved forward (getting a crown) so ill do it when I get back this afternoon

bah..that sux.  Had 1 last year.  Did not enjoy the experience.

 

I'll be looking forward to your cases.  Your previous ones have been very good.

[dapianoplay3r]

Any person in particular you want one on?

 

I think people know my standing on you and chuckles doesn't seem worth it at this point cos people have been chatting about him anyway

[John E. Kelley]

Case away on me if you like. I ain't sceered.

[dapianoplay3r]

Lol you know it is possible that I case someone and think they are town right

[John E. Kelley]

But of course.

[dapianoplay3r]

Then again, when has anyone ever thought you were town

 

Ok that's me off to get a tooth tampered with

[peacesells]

I have no interest in dictating who you case. 

[bgrishinko]

so BG your voting darthe because he didnt want to lynch anyone D1?

 

Essentially, yes.

 

Lynching is usually town's only method of attack at mafia. No Lynch basically gives mafia a high chance at a free kill. He pocked and prodded saying the Cop could help so we wouldn't be so blind but that's just role fishing. Also, avoiding a lynch can be a distancing move for someone who wants to stay off a town (or SK) lynch to get you to trust them more.

 

Each of these reasons individually might not add up to much, but when combined deserves a vote.

[John E. Kelley]

I'm sold.

 

Vote Darthe.

[Darthe]

 

so BG your voting darthe because he didnt want to lynch anyone D1?

 

Essentially, yes.

 

Lynching is usually town's only method of attack at mafia. No Lynch basically gives mafia a high chance at a free kill. He pocked and prodded saying the Cop could help so we wouldn't be so blind but that's just role fishing. Also, avoiding a lynch can be a distancing move for someone who wants to stay off a town (or SK) lynch to get you to trust them more.

 

Each of these reasons individually might not add up to much, but when combined deserves a vote.

 

 

Let me get this straight.. you think that in an instance where we have no evidence that making a hasty decision based on a three way argument that could have went anywhere was a good plan?  Furthermore you believe that recognition of the idea that we have a cop is roll fishing?  Their is a clear difference between looking for a cop and recognizing that one almost certainly exists, to argue otherwise it to be willfully blind.  

 

Ishy, I don't actually believe you right now.  That reads very much to me like someone looking for a reason to place a vote.  

[dapianoplay3r]

Ypu talkedabout results ffrom N0. Thats fishing

[Darthe]

Do you know what fishing means?

 

Here, let me give you a guide.

 

If I ask for results: Fishing.

 

If I mention that someone is likely to have results: Not fishing.

 

Recognition of something: Not fishing.

 

Attempting to weed out answers: Fishing

 

Acknowledgement of a role in the game: Not fishing.

 

Murky zone: requesting results or requesting someone to use their action

 

 

 

Okay, now that we have had that lesson in mafia basics children shall we get back to the game?

[dapianoplay3r]

N0 results

 

That not normal cop stuff, therefore fishing

[Darthe]

Night.  Night 0 is the same as N1 minus a number one and a flip.  75% chance of it being a town flip in general.  Label it as you wish but in the real world it isn't fishing because you want it to be.

[dapianoplay3r]

vote no lynch

 

I'm bored with this day already and we can get cop views without the loss of a townie so long as we no lynch.  Still not convinced that the 3 way argument isn't town on town thus this is the current best option.  Cop should already have a result from N0.

See. You say the cop should have N0 results. I don't think I've ever had a game were the cop starts with a viewing

[peacesells]

Red had a pre-dawn phase..I have no clue what it meant but you have to consider something may have happened, hence Darthe's reference.

 

Also, I didn't see any role fishing going on.  I doubt there were any night 0 actions though..since there wasn't a night 0 referenced by the mod. 

 

I can see Darthe thinking that with a no lynch and a supposed 2nd viewing by the cop that the town would actually be way ahead..but again there was no night 0 mentioned by the mod.

 

So, stating all that I find Ishy's vote pretty lazy and Daps pushing suspect.

 

I also wonder where Daps promised case is?

 

How was the dentist?

[Vambram]

 

Isn't vam also in this game?

 

 

 I have been busy with a vacation that my wife and I are having. Because of the vacation, I am not online nearly as much as I usually am. However, I shall be home from the vacation by Friday evening. I shall post more often after I return home. That is a promise. 

 

Vam gets mentioned and the next post is Vam.  Obviously he is reading the thread.

 

 

What is not obvious to you, is that I was prompted to post by dapiaonplay3r in a pm which was sent to my email. I did not respond to that prompt until at least an hour after that prompt was emailed to me, which happened to be almost immediately after I read it.

[Vambram]

I apologize. I got my mafia games confused. I was prompted by dap in the adventure time mafia game. After responding on that thread, that is when I almost immediately copied and pasted virtually the same response on this Jaws mafia game.  

[dapianoplay3r]

Locals worn off. I can feel my face now lol

 

Cases coming soon

[dapianoplay3r]

So Chucky

 

this is interesting

 

  

No, it really isn't.  Who hasn't shown up yet?

That just make me laugh so I included it, but it also looks like he is trying to look like he is looking into things, but really he wasn't (hence the Darthe cutting him off lol)

 

 

Now actual important stuff

Someone asked for top 3 lists, so I semi picked names at random

 

Basel peace chuckles

Lol what?

  

Players list of scum in his opinion.

 

 

I'm getting the idea that Basel is "playing the town role" by telling Hybrid how to play the game.  Makes him look like he is contributing but really doing nothing that can get him into trouble.

 

 

I find it interesting the Peace starts by nudging the idea that chuckles didnt understand what the 3 names were rather than his reaction being off, watch how this changes after I call chuckles out

(He's also pushing the Basel thing, and we now he didn't flip mafia)

 

 

 

The only thing missing from chuckles post was a gulp

 

 

I think I heard it though.

So I call chuckles out and peace is on board all of a sudden

 

  

:P

 

i dont gulp cuz thats always a sign, i smile, makes people wonder ;)

And this is chuckles damage control. He treats it lightly and tried to joke his way out

  

semi jokey...........

 

that hurt

 

  

And again more jokes

 

So why do you think I'm mafia dap?

  

I just pulled your name randomly tbh, to see if I could get you out in the open

But your twitchy reactions are the thing that's pinging me now

  

 

twitchy reactions?

 

The lol what? The jokey deflections. That stuff. Also the fact that you couldn't let it be. The conversation was moving away (your doing in the previous two posts to this quoted one) and now you come back, you just can't handle being found scummy

 

 

Then later.

Most of the times people who are "super townie" are the one who turn out to be scum, atleast those who are pros, and know their own meta's

 

It's not only pros that can be playing to stick on their meta

You seem to be trying to stay on your meta and be super townie

 

 

That is ridiculously illogical.  You play to an ultimate goal, either to get all others killed or to weed out the bad ones and kill them.  Anything that conflicts with that goal is wrong.  Townsmembers should want to look super townie, as should mafia.  When this is done effectively the ones who are motivated to it by self preservation are evident.

  

You know who is dreadfully boring?  All of you.  Post more.

  

I agree so much with the above post (not the top one though)

 

You know what you said made no sense

Maybe its cuz I'm sleepy and its late

 

So not cos you can't think of a good reply?

 

still dont agree with you darthe, like dap and ishy said, the more townie you look the more likely people vote you for being too townie(ish) or you get NK'd.

 

Oh look now that someone else has talked about it you are fine to talk about it again. It's an hour later so you should of been super sleepy

Also if you are vanilla it's a good idea to get NKed. Means a PR isn't getting NKed that night

 

 

But dude, i remember someone saying in a game that one of the tactics used as scum is saying lynch me and self voting to give yourself town cred/ getting people of your own train.

  

Chuckles it's not "lynch me" it's actually getting lynched or attracting a NK so that a PR is safe

This continues with him arguing this point. Kinda boring tbh

 

Then Basel really takes the show and all talk is focused around him. Chuckles joins in on that with this

Wait so what your trying to do is finding out his(hybrid) "secret reason"? Which he did at the start of the game?

He kinda tries to push the Basel thing, it's not really much. But it is something

 

  

Only Mafia deal in absolutes.

  

im not sure about anyone yet tbh

 

Translation "just so everyone knows I have no absolutes in the game"

Lol

 

Then Peace asks for Chuckles "leans"

Well the most logical pick would be the baselxhybridxpeace triangle but im not sure of any of them.

To the lurkers maybe post something? Its a 13 player game not half a dozen

  

Once again he doesn't actually take a stand, he just kind of summarises. Then he moves off to inactives

 

 

I've been giving this some thought. (Youn have nomidea how many times I've had to type this.) Unvote.  Vote Chuckles. I think still flailing round and he is sounding like he is trying to avoid lynch desperately.

 

 

explain the bolded?!

  

Once again he jumps the moment someone mentions him looking scummy, I think he may have a heart attack seeing this whole post

[dapianoplay3r]

 

 

Chuckles always does jokey posts, get freakin used to it basel, and was it the time you just randomly picked out my name dap?

Getting a bit defensive there chucky

 

So when is the deadline?

Then he makes sure people are aware of the deadline. Which in turn justifies...

vote basel

 

imo he's doing his best to shift attention to others instead of himself

 

And finally he takes a stand, but in such a way he can always say "I voted cos of the deadline"

That went well

This statement stands for mafia and town

 

Then day breaks. rand gets some heat and chuckles mentions Vam.

I still think this is weird but I grudgingly accept that he might not of known how to get to the Op on his phone.

 

Then finally he has another twitchy episode

 

so BG your voting darthe because he didnt want to lynch anyone D1?

 

so BG your voting darthe because he didnt want to lynch anyone D1?

If he is, do you disagree? Because I find it to be a very valid reason.

i wanted to check if he had any other reason, and why is it a valid reason?

He tries to go for BG but Ishy calls him to heel and he tries to justify it and gets defensive lol

 

 

 

So yea Chuckles is a likely mafia IMO

 

Dinner then case 2 hopefully