[Advanced] The Dresden Files Mafia - Game Over - Ed loses, Verbal wins

[ed2funy]

I already told you I didn't see that as you flipping you cards.

 

Why don't you actually look back and follow my reasoning. Why do you think I immediately switched on you? Ishy flipped correctly, and that let's me trust you.

 

 

Also, just Wiki'd my character. Your biggest selling point on Boo was that his character couldn't be scum. From what I read, I don't see how Susan could be scum.

[John McClane]

That is part of it. In general, I have agreed with others that his actions had a scum feel. That may have painted a bad image of him in my mind, but I definitely already saw him as scummy. Having two town Reporters just makes me doubt him more. 

 

The fact that he viewed AVM and Verbal, while you viewed Ishy and me, makes me lean on you being scum if either of you are.

 

Actually though, there's no reason to lynch either of you right now. As long as there is a chance there could be 2 town reporters, why not let me vet you guys?

 

Unvote

Vote Lenlo

 

As of right now, both Booboo and Ed are investigative roles, and potentially both have the ability to reveal true roles. I viewed AVM on N1, he came back town. Plus Booboo's character claim hasn't been countered. I'm leaning toward believing him not you, BUT, why not let scum make the decision for us? Send both into night, let them both report again, and get both their results tomorrow, and if scum wants one of them dead more than the other, let scum deal with them.

[John McClane]

I already told you I didn't see that as you flipping you cards.

 

Why don't you actually look back and follow my reasoning. Why do you think I immediately switched on you? Ishy flipped correctly, and that let's me trust you.

 

 

Also, just Wiki'd my character. Your biggest selling point on Boo was that his character couldn't be scum. From what I read, I don't see how Susan could be scum.

 

 

Yeah, well, Boo's character is definitely in the game... your's could be a safe-claim for scum. I dunno. 

 

I don't want to proceed with a lynch between 2 investigative roles, without there really being a reason to. There's no guarantee either of you are scum. And with you both alive tonight, we get 2 more reports, and scum will have to eventually shoot one of you or me. 

 

So why force the issue, there's little to no benefit to lynching either of you now.

[Tyler Glembo]

Tina, no half claim. Who is your character? We need to figure outif it fits canon

[John McClane]

I'm willing to re-vote Tina if she doesn't character claim soon. 

 

She could be a designated killer for scum, which is what it seems Vambram was. She might be full of crap that she shot at him.

[BooBoo]

 

I already told you I didn't see that as you flipping you cards.

 

Why don't you actually look back and follow my reasoning. Why do you think I immediately switched on you? Ishy flipped correctly, and that let's me trust you.

 

 

Also, just Wiki'd my character. Your biggest selling point on Boo was that his character couldn't be scum. From what I read, I don't see how Susan could be scum.

 

 

Yeah, well, Boo's character is definitely in the game... your's could be a safe-claim for scum. I dunno. 

 

I don't want to proceed with a lynch between 2 investigative roles, without there really being a reason to. There's no guarantee either of you are scum. And with you both alive tonight, we get 2 more reports, and scum will have to eventually shoot one of you or me. 

 

So why force the issue, there's little to no benefit to lynching either of you now.

 

He outed the cop last night.  He's dangerous.  My skill and instincts would never put the town is such a terrible situation.  I just out vanilla townies :)

[John McClane]

I already told you I didn't see that as you flipping you cards.

 

Why don't you actually look back and follow my reasoning. Why do you think I immediately switched on you? Ishy flipped correctly, and that let's me trust you.

 

 

Also, just Wiki'd my character. Your biggest selling point on Boo was that his character couldn't be scum. From what I read, I don't see how Susan could be scum.

 

1. Just because you say something doesn't make it true. I'm questioning what I find to be illogical.

 

2. I still don't understand your reasoning. How does Ishy flipping correctly = you trust me? It should make you trust your role. You should trust me because I'm an uncountered cop.

[John McClane]

 

 

I already told you I didn't see that as you flipping you cards.

 

Why don't you actually look back and follow my reasoning. Why do you think I immediately switched on you? Ishy flipped correctly, and that let's me trust you.

 

 

Also, just Wiki'd my character. Your biggest selling point on Boo was that his character couldn't be scum. From what I read, I don't see how Susan could be scum.

 

 

Yeah, well, Boo's character is definitely in the game... your's could be a safe-claim for scum. I dunno. 

 

I don't want to proceed with a lynch between 2 investigative roles, without there really being a reason to. There's no guarantee either of you are scum. And with you both alive tonight, we get 2 more reports, and scum will have to eventually shoot one of you or me. 

 

So why force the issue, there's little to no benefit to lynching either of you now.

 

He outed the cop last night.  He's dangerous.  My skill and instincts would never put the town is such a terrible situation.  I just out vanilla townies :)

 

He could just be dumb.

 

Why not bring both of you into the night phase? All of the town roles worht caring about are out in the open. I'd rather get 2 more reports, than force the issue of lynching one of you 2 now. Scum has more to lose if I get a viewing, and you 2 get 2 more reports. There's plenty of other directions to go in with this lynch. Rand. Lenlo. Tina if she doesn't character claim or play ball with holstering and/or shooting who we all vote on.

 

I think she's being let off the hook with a half claim right now. I want to know her character.

[ed2funy]

It's precisely why I trust you, because I trust my role. Not in the sense that you think someone is scum, but if you come out tunneling at someone, I'm more inclined to think you got a viewing. 

 

You didn't exactly role claim. There is no reason anyone should be countering. I trust that you are the Cop because I trust my role. 

Make sense? 

 

And I agree with you. There are other ways to verify me and verify or debunk Boo than lynching. Asking why I'm pushing the issue when it is the main thing I see after you present a valid reason for not pursuing it is stupid. Pushing it would be continuing to blindly rush in and push for his lynch. 

 

 

And yea, I'm just dumb.  

[peacesells]

Ed, you stated you viewed AVM night one...makes sense.  Who did you view last night?  I may have missed you stating that. 

 

Vambram is the only dead last night.  Normally Boo, still being alive would look really scummy but it can also be that the scum team didn't get their shot off. 

[peacesells]

Bah..not Ed...I meant APE.  You viewed AVM and who?

[ed2funy]

Is there any need for him to say so?

We can need pretty sure he didn't view anyone he is going after

[BooBoo]

 

 

 

I already told you I didn't see that as you flipping you cards.

 

Why don't you actually look back and follow my reasoning. Why do you think I immediately switched on you? Ishy flipped correctly, and that let's me trust you.

 

 

Also, just Wiki'd my character. Your biggest selling point on Boo was that his character couldn't be scum. From what I read, I don't see how Susan could be scum.

 

 

Yeah, well, Boo's character is definitely in the game... your's could be a safe-claim for scum. I dunno. 

 

I don't want to proceed with a lynch between 2 investigative roles, without there really being a reason to. There's no guarantee either of you are scum. And with you both alive tonight, we get 2 more reports, and scum will have to eventually shoot one of you or me. 

 

So why force the issue, there's little to no benefit to lynching either of you now.

 

He outed the cop last night.  He's dangerous.  My skill and instincts would never put the town is such a terrible situation.  I just out vanilla townies :)

 

He could just be dumb.

 

Why not bring both of you into the night phase? All of the town roles worht caring about are out in the open. I'd rather get 2 more reports, than force the issue of lynching one of you 2 now. Scum has more to lose if I get a viewing, and you 2 get 2 more reports. There's plenty of other directions to go in with this lynch. Rand. Lenlo. Tina if she doesn't character claim or play ball with holstering and/or shooting who we all vote on.

 

I think she's being let off the hook with a half claim right now. I want to know her character.

 

I'm fine with that.  

 

Unvote

Vote Peace 

[peacesells]

Is there any need for him to say so?

We can need pretty sure he didn't view anyone he is going after

 

Well, I'd expect the scum team to take him out tonight.  If he can confirm another town player and we do actually have 2 town reporters than this game can be over pretty quickly.  We basically have 3 cops.  (at least 2). 

[peacesells]

Boo...why aren't you voting Lenlo?

[ed2funy]

Need to invite I think.

 

Once I t to work. Code is s pain driving

[Niniel]

I´m Kincaid.

I´m town vig with 50 % to succeed.

I killed Darthe N1 and Vambram N2.

I can holster if I want to.

I´m willing to take suggestions but will decide by myself who/if I want to kill.

 

There you go. I have spent some time giving Verbal work. :p I will read more tonight.

[John McClane]

Bah..not Ed...I meant APE.  You viewed AVM and who?

 

Not important.

 

I only mentioned that I viewed AVM, because it is pertinent to the Ed / Booboo logic.

 

I'm sitting on the other viewing as a scum hunting device.

 

So far: 

 

Ed viewed Ishy and me, outing the cop.

 

Booboo viewed AVM and Verbal. 

 

Both gave their characters, both are uncountered. 

 

IMO, we don't have to resolve this situation now. Town stands to gain MORE by allowing Ed and Booboo to BOTH report again tonight. Let scum make the tough choice between them. Or let them keep reporting. Scum has to be concerned that I might have protection, so do they prioritize a wifom between Boobo and Ed, or do they just shoot one of them? How long can scum afford to have a cop, plus 2 reporters in the game.

 

I say we let them contend with that decision... and move on to lynching someone else, like Lenlo or Rand.

[John McClane]

 

Is there any need for him to say so?

We can need pretty sure he didn't view anyone he is going after

 

Well, I'd expect the scum team to take him out tonight.  If he can confirm another town player and we do actually have 2 town reporters than this game can be over pretty quickly.  We basically have 3 cops.  (at least 2). 

 

 

 

Is there any need for him to say so?

We can need pretty sure he didn't view anyone he is going after

 

Well, I'd expect the scum team to take him out tonight.  If he can confirm another town player and we do actually have 2 town reporters than this game can be over pretty quickly.  We basically have 3 cops.  (at least 2). 

 

I encourage scum to try. My results will be passed on to another, no worries. 

 

I´m Kincaid.

I´m town vig with 50 % to succeed.

I killed Darthe N1 and Vambram N2.

I can holster if I want to.

I´m willing to take suggestions but will decide by myself who/if I want to kill.

 

There you go. I have spent some time giving Verbal work. :p I will read more tonight.

 

Thank you. Wiki says Kincaid is a mercenary.... and there has been mention of a coin in scenes. I wonder if your kill can be bought by the highest bidder, or holder of the coin or somethign. Making you more of a SK. Wiki also suggests it wouldn't make sense for you to miss.

[John McClane]

We should honesty do a mass character reveal.

[Niniel]

Don´t know anything about the theme or my character. Just saying what is said in my role PM. I don´t know anything about coins.

[Verbal32]

 

Is there any need for him to say so?

We can need pretty sure he didn't view anyone he is going after

 

Well, I'd expect the scum team to take him out tonight.  If he can confirm another town player and we do actually have 2 town reporters than this game can be over pretty quickly.  We basically have 3 cops.  (at least 2). 

 

Eh, I really think one of the reporters is scum.  Unless the scum team is ridiculously rolled up.

 

 

 

I´m Kincaid.

I´m town vig with 50 % to succeed.

I killed Darthe N1 and Vambram N2.

I can holster if I want to.

I´m willing to take suggestions but will decide by myself who/if I want to kill.

 

There you go. I have spent some time giving Verbal work. :p I will read more tonight.

 

-_-

[John Snow]

No mass character claims.

[ed2funy]

Invite, Vote Lenlo

 

I'm down with a mass character reveal. The only concern I have is that there is probably another form of protective role out there and it has a possibility of flipping that. I'm not sure what the odds are of there being a protective role, though. I do feel it's likely with having 3 possibly 4 investigative roles in the game.

 

What are your thoughts on that?

[ed2funy]

Well, fine then Snow.

 

Also. That was Unvote.