[Advanced] The Dresden Files Mafia - Game Over - Ed loses, Verbal wins

[Nolder]

 

 

Ugh, I'm tired. JIF, Tina, Ishy in that order.

Now Ishy is 3rd? Why are you protecting him all of a sudden?

 

I included him in my top 3. How is that "protecting him"? 

 

Why are you cratering so much on trying to discredit me over Ishy in particular? Why are you acting as if you've never seen me re-stack my FOS ranks on a whim? As the game goes on, my suspicions shift.

 

You seem to be locking on to me in order to avoid everything else. Why?

 

Also, do you agree that we should let JIF get away with being at L2 and not revealing? 

During the Night he was, IMO, looking like the best candidate for a lynch today. Once day broke you completely went off on another direction with JiF and pulled the town along with you. It looks to me like you are intentionally putting the spotlight on JiF to distract from Ishy. And no I'm not saying we should let JiF off the hook he put the noose around his own neck as far as I'm concerned with the whole emo bit. What I am trying to get across to you that you don't seem to be able to comprehend is you keep shifting Ishy further and further from priority #1 even though he looks as scummy as JiF if not more so and certainly more than Tina IMO. It's like you're trying to buy him just one more day, and then another. 

 

I had a town read on you before but I gotta say that sentiment is fading fast at this point.

[ed2funy]

I think Noldy forgot that new info was presented. As has been mentioned.

[peacesells]

Wasn't Ishy cleared by the Mod in the scene?

[John McClane]

I won't concede to your point that I'm intentionally pushing Ishy further from priority #1? Bullspit.

 

1. I moved jif up, by doing it of course I acknowledge I did shifted my ranks.

 

2. I explained specifically why, so in doing that i also acknowledged it. Scum tell ranks higher than hunch.

 

3. What if this was all a ruse to draw out scum? You've seen me do it before, its not, but could be... Why are acting like you are trying to blow it up? Or like you are scared to get caught in it.?

 

Just because you keep saying I'm not acknowledging it, doesn't make it true. You are also dodging the questions I'm asking in return, and one could EASILY make the accusation that you are trying to buy jif time just like you are accusing me of doing for Ishy.

 

How about answering some of my questions now?

[BooBoo]

I get the deal

Its time to reveal

do with me what you will

I understand if you want to kill

 

I'm the town Reporter

And I love a good Porter.

 

In the evening I pick a name

In the morning you know his game

Last night I picked AwesomeVM

And voted him today to play possum

 

I'm sorry for my outburst

Tthe Ape makes my butt hurt

He always thinks he's right

He always picks a fight

And some times I bite.

He's like a parasite.

[ed2funy]

Town Reporter? I am assuming that since it was in the paper, that is what your role is? 

You pick a target and we get the info in the rumors section? 

 

But there are two of you? 

Is one false and the other true? 

 

Unvote for now. 

 

Interesting development. 

Someone mentioned looking at the same people.

If this is all true, I would recommend Boo views Ishy and the other Reporter(?) views AVM tonight. 
Assuming he isn't keeled. 

 

And the mafia(s) could kill Ishy or AVM, but we would get their roles and could confirm all this anyways. 

 

Ugh. Circles and circles. 

 

Haven't had the best feeling on Moldy Noldy. Will read through in a bit and pull up some quotes.

[John McClane]

 

Vote Peace

 

Lucky #7

Solid.

 

 

 

Unvote

Vote Nolderp

Righteous

 

Odd early-game thing I noticed. Both of JIF's first 2 votes garnered odd praise from Ishy. 

 

Vote Ishy

I think he comes out looking the worst after rereading the thread

 

I'd still like Nolderp to elaborate on this. It's clear he's got a bit o' FOS for Ishy. I can't blame him after re-reading again.

 

John, I'm gonna tell you this just once. Call me on my name.

Fakevoting too?

What is a vageen?

 

"What is a vageen?" - Possibly the greatest sentence in this whole game.

 

unvote, vote BooBoo

 

He's been jumping on easy lynch trains.

 

Yes. He sure was.

 

Anyone else think that Ape and Csarmi are sitting in the QT laughing their asses off? I smell a gambit.

 

This post pinged me A LOT. He was incentivizing the csarmi lynch by hinting it could lead to me being scum too. He pushed that train a lot, in ways like this.

 

Although Ape and Charmie are interesting the responses to the scuffle are more so.  And Booboo's is scumtastic in that his only response was a vote.  VOTE BOOBOO.

 

Agreed, and you've been consistent with this suspicion today.

 

Where are you going with this, Player. So what if Csarmi didn't see that Crusher was going to be replaced? So what if he don't know what skimming means? Does that make him scum. I find it scummy that you are going on about this at all. Trying to beat a dead horse to look town?

 

Unvote. If Snow don't count it I will unvote properly tomorrow.

 

I didn't like this. Tina was scolding Player for pursing csarmi further, but out of the other side of her mouth encouraging all the setup theorizing. At least Player was working towards a case, and vote rationale. Tina was essentially encouraging muddling the thread with exploitable theories, and she never did follow up with that unvote "tomorrow". Big time scum tell, universally, when someone says they are going to "go read and then comment" or "do something later" and they never do. I catch Lily on that all the time. :)

 

Hope everyone had a nice Easter and enjoyed watching the Gators get their asses handed to them. I know I did. Will be posting some thoughts straight away, but before I do, I just wanted to make a comment.

 

Ape makes a great point, and him making it is one of the reasons I was so psyched to see the JN players involved this time. Many of us here on DM are much too interested in surviving till the end instead of winning. I never noticed the distinction until I played there. As Town, our job is to find scum. not to keep living. If our deaths smoke out scum, then we've succeeded. When Csarmi says that his coroner report won't be useful, that's a load of crap. The intel that can be gathered from ANY coroner report is useful. With what we've seen so far, there is a lot that can be deduced, and Csarmi's desire to survive as opposed to actually helping is noteworthy, as are those those that have been quick to leap onto an, as of yet, easy case. Putting it all together is the endgame we should be striving for.

 

Reading up on particulars now.

 

Lastly, great finale to WD and great premiere to GoT. Pumped for the new season.

 

Speaking of people saying they are going to re-read and then insinuating they will follow up with commentary, I brought this up about Ishy during night. He says he's going to do it, and then follows up with thoughts about JN and Crusher being super cool, yada yada, but never anything game-centric.

 

So, long story short on re-read JIF, Tina and Ishy are my top 3. I'm happy to rank them however I need to to keep Nolder from being a doosh.

[John E. Kelley]

Town Reporter? I am assuming that since it was in the paper, that is what your role is? 

You pick a target and we get the info in the rumors section? 

 

But there are two of you? 

Is one false and the other true? 

 

Unvote for now. 

 

Interesting development. 

Someone mentioned looking at the same people.

If this is all true, I would recommend Boo views Ishy and the other Reporter(?) views AVM tonight. 

Assuming he isn't keeled. 

 

And the mafia(s) could kill Ishy or AVM, but we would get their roles and could confirm all this anyways. 

 

Ugh. Circles and circles. 

 

Haven't had the best feeling on Moldy Noldy. Will read through in a bit and pull up some quotes.

 

I would think that it would almost have to be one that reads true and one that doesn't. Like I said earlier, I just can't see a game mechanic that allows two Townies to be confirmed everyday. If you add in a Cop viewing, the pool of potential scum would be narrowed so fast that it would break the game in two or three days. I don't want to be seen as trying to game the mod, but that would just be a horrible mechanic and one that I don't think JS would inject into the game.

 

That being said, view me again if that's what everyone wants, I welcome it. My report, at least, was dead on.

[John McClane]

 

Town Reporter? I am assuming that since it was in the paper, that is what your role is? 

You pick a target and we get the info in the rumors section? 

 

But there are two of you? 

Is one false and the other true? 

 

Unvote for now. 

 

Interesting development. 

Someone mentioned looking at the same people.

If this is all true, I would recommend Boo views Ishy and the other Reporter(?) views AVM tonight. 

Assuming he isn't keeled. 

 

And the mafia(s) could kill Ishy or AVM, but we would get their roles and could confirm all this anyways. 

 

Ugh. Circles and circles. 

 

Haven't had the best feeling on Moldy Noldy. Will read through in a bit and pull up some quotes.

 

I would think that it would almost have to be one that reads true and one that doesn't. Like I said earlier, I just can't see a game mechanic that allows two Townies to be confirmed everyday. If you add in a Cop viewing, the pool of potential scum would be narrowed so fast that it would break the game in two or three days. I don't want to be seen as trying to game the mod, but that would just be a horrible mechanic and one that I don't think JS would inject into the game.

 

That being said, view me again if that's what everyone wants, I welcome it. My report, at least, was dead on.

 

So, you can't see a game mechanic that allows two townies to be confirmed daily.... and you insist you are town, obviously... but you dont' move your vote to Booboo, you instead focus on convincing us to view you again?

 

Unvote

Vote Ishy

[John McClane]

I meant to say "you don't move your vote to AVM", who under the logic of Ishy "not seeing how a game mechanic would allow 2 townies to confirm per day" would imply he's saying AVM's gotta be the scum, of the pair of them.

[BooBoo]

 

Town Reporter? I am assuming that since it was in the paper, that is what your role is? 

You pick a target and we get the info in the rumors section? 

 

But there are two of you? 

Is one false and the other true? 

 

Unvote for now. 

 

Interesting development. 

Someone mentioned looking at the same people.

If this is all true, I would recommend Boo views Ishy and the other Reporter(?) views AVM tonight. 

Assuming he isn't keeled. 

 

And the mafia(s) could kill Ishy or AVM, but we would get their roles and could confirm all this anyways. 

 

Ugh. Circles and circles. 

 

Haven't had the best feeling on Moldy Noldy. Will read through in a bit and pull up some quotes.

 

I would think that it would almost have to be one that reads true and one that doesn't. Like I said earlier, I just can't see a game mechanic that allows two Townies to be confirmed everyday. If you add in a Cop viewing, the pool of potential scum would be narrowed so fast that it would break the game in two or three days. I don't want to be seen as trying to game the mod, but that would just be a horrible mechanic and one that I don't think JS would inject into the game.

 

That being said, view me again if that's what everyone wants, I welcome it. My report, at least, was dead on.

 

I too think its strange

In fact I find it deranged

but this not my game

so I'm not to blame

 

They are reported as rumors

I think its sick humor

the mod is toying with our brains

he's totally insane

[John E. Kelley]

Well there's obviously a role that reveals one Townie daily, I know this because it revealed me correctly.

[John McClane]

Wasn't Ishy cleared by the Mod in the scene?

 

Are you serious with this question?

[John E. Kelley]

 

Wasn't Ishy cleared by the Mod in the scene?

 

Are you serious with this question?

 

The correct answer is yes, he was.

[John McClane]

Official Vote Count:

 

Boo(7): Peace, Ape, AVM, Verb, Ed, Kat, Boo

Ishy(2): Leelou, Nol

 

Not voting:

TGlems, Song, Lenlo, Vambram, Hybrid, Tina, Rand, Ishy

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

 

Deadline: http://www.timeandda...=Day 2 Deadline

 

This is noon on the 4th in Mountain Timezone. I also believe that's DM time.

 

 

I agree that Booboo´s reactions looks scummy. But he immedeately asked what a Chicago Citizen is after the coroner´s report. That would be kind of clumsy  to ask if scum.

 

Ishy don´t add anything except for letting us know he is willing to get lynched. Any thoughts, Ishy? 

 

Vote Katiora.

 

No more clumsy than a town power role asking it. Waiting on that explanation on Kat vote.

 

 

I agree that Booboo´s reactions looks scummy. But he immedeately asked what a Chicago Citizen is after the coroner´s report. That would be kind of clumsy  to ask if scum.

 

Ishy don´t add anything except for letting us know he is willing to get lynched. Any thoughts, Ishy? 

 

Vote Katiora.

*squints thoughtfully at Tina's vote*

 

Okay, I get it. Vote Kat.

 

I'd like an explanation for all this too. ^^^

 

It's an interesting push in a new direction when Booboo hit L2 and should have been held to revealing. It wasn't for a few hours and after Booboo unvoted himself and someone put him back to L2 that he finally revealed. You 2 looks like you were giving him an out.

[John E. Kelley]

You can't possibly be as dense as you're coming off as. You don't get what I read into Tina's vote? Really?

[John McClane]

 

 

Wasn't Ishy cleared by the Mod in the scene?

 

Are you serious with this question?

 

The correct answer is yes, he was.

 

How about you answer the questions I've directed at you, and you let him answer the ones directed at him.

 

Speaking of people not answering questions... where's that little turd Nolderp?

[Tyler Glembo]

 

 

Wasn't Ishy cleared by the Mod in the scene?

 

Are you serious with this question?

 

The correct answer is yes, he was.

 

No.  Not at all.  Have you read the source?  Johnny Marcone has a tenuous relationship with Dresden, even being willing to let him die at one point IIRC.  Later he becomes a bit better but Marcone could be scum, third party, or town IMO.

 

Wasn't Ishy cleared by the Mod in the scene?

 

Rumors section of paper.

[John McClane]

You can't possibly be as dense as you're coming off as. You don't get what I read into Tina's vote? Really?

 

I know what it looked like, I'd rather here you state your intentions rather than trying to be cryptic and manipulative.

[BooBoo]

I VOTE BOOBOO

 

 

His posts are mostly either attacks against the most active scum hunter in this game, or BooBoo posts lots of random stuff that, to me, almost sounds like his game style is very erratic or even kind of schizophrenic in nature. If we on the Town team are going to defeat the Mafia, then I don't understand how BooBoo is being helpful, even if he is Town. Throughout Day 1 and Night 1, most of Booboo's votes have come without any explanation. That is rarely a  good thing to do. But,  I think that he is Mafia attempting to masquerade as Town. 

 

I'd just like to point out

I dont like this post, no doubt

[Tyler Glembo]

Also, half reveals are FTL.  Booboo, who is your character?

[BooBoo]

Also, half reveals are FTL.  Booboo, who is your character?

 

Where I'm from we dont reveal names

If its cool then I'll claim

Let me know if its straight

For now I'll just wait 

[John McClane]

Nothing in the rules about character reveals vs. role reveals.

[John McClane]

 

I VOTE BOOBOO

 

 

His posts are mostly either attacks against the most active scum hunter in this game, or BooBoo posts lots of random stuff that, to me, almost sounds like his game style is very erratic or even kind of schizophrenic in nature. If we on the Town team are going to defeat the Mafia, then I don't understand how BooBoo is being helpful, even if he is Town. Throughout Day 1 and Night 1, most of Booboo's votes have come without any explanation. That is rarely a  good thing to do. But,  I think that he is Mafia attempting to masquerade as Town. 

 

I'd just like to point out

I dont like this post, no doubt

 

 

Yup. It stinks like he was stoking the fire on your train after it fizzled. 

 

I'm also concerned with Ishy and Tina and their cryptic little routine. It's like they are soft claiming.

[John McClane]

Stinks.... IF you are town. LOL