[ADVANCED] Forsaken in the White Tower: Town wins!

[Darthe]

bloody hell I am losing it.  I will correct that and repost.  But Kaylee is less suspect to me than sakaea was  

[dapianoplay3r]

I agree. Howevrr i dont see tge point in the clean up

[John E. Kelley]

There was a lot of that post that was confusing. Or maybe I'm just too drunk to decipher it.

[dapianoplay3r]

Darthes?

[John E. Kelley]

Aye.

[Darthe]

Nope, I was being dumb when i did it.  I am going to update it.

[John E. Kelley]

Nope, I was dumb.

 

New sig material? I think maybe yes.

[Darthe]

1. WoT
2. Kaylee
3. Peace, claims Min
4. Cloud, claims town doublevoter, Thom
5. Darthe, claims Nynaeve
6. Tiink
7. Roo (replaced Hallia), Theodrin, Vanilla Town, NK’d Night 1
8. TG, Moiraine, Town Tracker, NK’d Night 2
9. Tress, Leane, Town Mail Carrier, NK’d Night 1
10. Moon, Sammael, 50% GF etc Lynched Day 4
11. Lenlo, Birgitte, vanilla town, Lynched Day 3
12. Ishy 2.0, claims Julian Sandar, Cop.
13. Kae, Dead with no coroner.  
14. Rand, claims Elayne
15. Tina, claims Mat
16. Roo 2.0 
17. Ishy, Padan Fain, 3-shot Serial Killer, Lynched Day 2
18. Player
19. Talya, claims Gawyn
20. RTE

 

Thus, Tiink, Moon (Now confirmed, remember I made this before she was lynched), and Player are scum.  Perhaps WoT as well.  I believe all of the safe claims so far.  I recognize that this leaves room for error but it is believable that these people are town and not scum through both their claims, their actions, and the above list.

 

Okay, the above was what I did at daybreak.  I support moving forward with this entire line of reasoning and my ultimate read is on Tiink.  He must die.

 

I think this is right now.

[Darthe]

 

Nope, I was dumb.

 

New sig material? I think maybe yes.

You think?  I was under the impression that you drank and killedd stuffz for lolz.

[dapianoplay3r]

Right so why those people over the others?

[dapianoplay3r]

Also thats not enough to make a full team?

[Darthe]

A mixture of my reads, their placement in line, my opinion of the NK's, and a general good sense of reason.  Don't get me wrong, I could easily be off.  One of the claimed players could be mafia even.  Yet so long as we have unknowns and they have played a worse game than the revealed individuals (doubly so considering the flips we have), I am running with my gut and logic.

 

Tiink is definite though.  He may as well reveal I am so certain of him.  Ishy, i am sure of this in the way I was of you in that first JN game.

[Darthe]

Also thats not enough to make a full team?

 

Jesus, do I have to figure the whole game out?  You would think that me giving some reads was good enough.  

[dapianoplay3r]

Well most people would try fill a team with their choices. I just wondered why you only chose to mention 3

 

Your reasons sound ok but just a pet peeve now, placement in line. Its not helpful. If feels like it should matter but if Randomness is used then it wont. Please dont uee tgat

 

also im not mafia

[Darthe]

Eh, Randomness isn't really random but nobody here seems to really get statistics or the way computer algorithms work..  they're just complex in such a way that they may as well be random.  For instance, that we have two people together in this game with no claim seems random but in reality it puts them at more risk.  That mafia and copviews together clear this much (below) with only one unknown variable is beyond unlikely.  Of course, that isn't the basis of my case but it is what got me to look at him in the first place.  You may very well not be, who would you list as mafia?

 

3. Peace, claims Min
4. Cloud, claims town doublevoter, Thom
5. Darthe, claims Nynaeve
6. Tiink
7. Roo (replaced Hallia), Theodrin, Vanilla Town, NK’d Night 1
8. TG, Moiraine, Town Tracker, NK’d Night 2
9. Tress, Leane, Town Mail Carrier, NK’d Night 1
10. Moon, Sammael, 50% GF etc Lynched Day 4
11. Lenlo, Birgitte, vanilla town, Lynched Day 3
12. Ishy 2.0, claims Julian Sandar, Cop.

[dapianoplay3r]

There is a chance all the mafia is next to eachother. It can happen.

As for my team. Im not sure

i agree with tiink and time but to a less extend i thinl RTE. Kaylee i dont think so. Roo i dont know. I cant remember off the top of my head but i have the feeling he was cleared or claimed?

Me no lol. Im town

 

if you are certain of tiink thenlets get casing. After dinner ill do mine on him and we can compare

[dapianoplay3r]

I wont be able to do more than one person tonight though. Its yhe first so staff duties to see too

[John E. Kelley]

No need really. Tomorrow we lynch Time.

[John E. Kelley]

Ishy, i am sure of this in the way I was of you in that first JN game.

 

Which game? The only JN game I can remember being scum in was Nolder's Dodgeball game. And I was the last man standing, won that one if you recall.

[RandA lThor]

darthe you are aware that random.org uses noise for its random algorithms which makes it truly random, right?

 

Also, less active for two days due to tournament/my birthday/Superbowl

[dapianoplay3r]

Happy birthday dude

[Talya]

Well done guys, I just have one complaint, you never gave me chance to do a reread...certainly didn't expect to wake up and find a lynch already. However I will get to my reread tonight. 

 

A couple of points...does anyone not think that they lynch on Moon was very easy. I think she wanted out of the game and what better way to do it than sacrifice herself for the team, to set them up as looking town! Kaylee and Player spring to mind for this. But I will have to re look at it all. Now people have gone on about claims that the Mod would give, if he gave Elsie, it was a pretty dumb one, or the mafia don't have them at all. Or if she wanted out she could have given that one to make herself look even more likely to be mafia. 

 

As for the silencing, looks like RTE and Darthe are more than likely telling the truth, they were silenced. My little irk on this, is that I was compulsed (for want of a better word...haha) on the third day - when there wasn't anyone silenced. The day just gone looks like Darthe was silenced (which fits with the role - alternative days), but I got the impression Ishy was complused as well. Why was no one compulsed on Day 2, if it could be done everyday? Something there doesn't seem quite right! If the silencer was given out on alternative nights, then I would imagine that the compulsion would be as well - in fact on the nights inbetween the silencer. It balances the game. 

 

So Ishy, can I ask...were you compulsed and if not why vote me but push for someone else, I got the impression your were compulsed!

 

Oh and I have a general question...people have mentioned it a couple of times now, what do you mean about Kae being cleansed....not heard of this before!

[peacesells]

Talya, Ish came out and said his vote was controlled. 

[Talya]

I thought so, so that is what confuses me, why was no one controlled on Day 2 then?

[peacesells]

I thought so, so that is what confuses me, why was no one controlled on Day 2 then?

What does it matter.  The mod has a 50% GF.  Maybe the GF had a choice which power to use...GF or compulsion.  Or maybe the other forsaken have the same choices.  Doesn't help with scum hunting talking about it.