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[ADVANCED] Forsaken in the White Tower: Town wins!

Basel Gill

By Basel Gill
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If we all vote for no lynch, no lynch happens and the day ends.  Also, at this moment we feel that the only lynches we can secure will probably lose a townie, so it is town to go for no lynch.

 

I don't honestly believe that. That we will probably lose a townie. What makes that true? Because they made claims on some of the most likely people to be in the game?

 

While I agree that you shouldn't put your full trust into anyone when playing this game, blatantly ignoring the value of claims and what they signify is pretty poor. Your constant pushing on this is making me feel pretty good about likely voting you come morning.

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If we all vote for no lynch, no lynch happens and the day ends.  Also, at this moment we feel that the only lynches we can secure will probably lose a townie, so it is town to go for no lynch.

 

I don't honestly believe that. That we will probably lose a townie. What makes that true? Because they made claims on some of the most likely people to be in the game?

 

While I agree that you shouldn't put your full trust into anyone when playing this game, blatantly ignoring the value of claims and what they signify is pretty poor. Your constant pushing on this is making me feel pretty good about likely voting you come morning.

 

You mean until I make a town reveal and then we obviously need to vote no lynch as we'll have little more to go on than we do now?

 

Faulty logic.

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I think a Day 1 claim is more or less worthless. Except maybe Cloud's in regards to the double voting and trying to match it to his character reveal.

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Unvote, Vote Lenlo

 

I honestly don't see any reason to vote for a no lynch since all it's going to do is have us twiddling our shiz again come Day time. Voting Lenlo is the safest option imo. We test whether or not Birgitte is in this game (Elayne almost certainly is), we get a decent idea of the characters involved, and we get decent information from both trains. A no lynch just gives mafia the extra kill and we won't glean anything from it.

By testing whether or not birgette is in this game, you kill me so when you learn it is true, it will do almost nothing to help you. Why is it hard to understand that if Elayne is almost certainly in this game that Birgette, her warder, is also in this game?

Seeing if you're actually telling the truth or not will help me at least get a better feel for who could be or couldn't be in this game. I'd expect Elayne in the game and Birgitte isn't at all as major a character as Elayne is. Also I'd be more inclined to think that if both of you were in the game then you'd have a more significant role than just nilla since it's an advanced game. Mason at least.. You are the safer option.

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RTE, so you'd rather possibly lose 2 townies, one from a lynch and one from an NK, than maybe only one? Logic fail yourself.

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I consider Birgitte a major character, because she was linked to the Horn, and therefore Mat, then was yanked out of Tel'aran-rhiod, and is now Elayne's Warder. So major supporting character, at least.

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RTE, so you'd rather possibly lose 2 townies, one from a lynch and one from an NK, than maybe only one? Logic fail yourself.

Preach on sistah. Kae speaks truth.

 

 

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If we all vote for no lynch, no lynch happens and the day ends.  Also, at this moment we feel that the only lynches we can secure will probably lose a townie, so it is town to go for no lynch.

 

I don't honestly believe that. That we will probably lose a townie. What makes that true? Because they made claims on some of the most likely people to be in the game?

 

While I agree that you shouldn't put your full trust into anyone when playing this game, blatantly ignoring the value of claims and what they signify is pretty poor. Your constant pushing on this is making me feel pretty good about likely voting you come morning.

 

You mean until I make a town reveal and then we obviously need to vote no lynch as we'll have little more to go on than we do now?

 

Faulty logic.

 

You're completely missing the point. Again. Read the sentence again. Christ.

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RTE, so you'd rather possibly lose 2 townies, one from a lynch and one from an NK, than maybe only one? Logic fail yourself.

 

With a lynch we have a shot at a mafia. And much more information than a no lynch, no matter the outcome. No lynch is a free night action for the mafia, no matter how you look at it.

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If we all vote for no lynch, no lynch happens and the day ends.  Also, at this moment we feel that the only lynches we can secure will probably lose a townie, so it is town to go for no lynch.

 

I don't honestly believe that. That we will probably lose a townie. What makes that true? Because they made claims on some of the most likely people to be in the game?

 

While I agree that you shouldn't put your full trust into anyone when playing this game, blatantly ignoring the value of claims and what they signify is pretty poor. Your constant pushing on this is making me feel pretty good about likely voting you come morning.

 

You mean until I make a town reveal and then we obviously need to vote no lynch as we'll have little more to go on than we do now?

 

Faulty logic.

 

You're completely missing the point. Again. Read the sentence again. Christ.

 

What don't you get? It's like you don't understand that anyone at this point will make a town claim if they were in that position...  I don't understand, is this surprising you at all?

 

I do not see the value of a day 1 claim as there is nothing to corroborate it. It only serves the person and there is no way of testing the claim's legitimacy right now. Later? Maybe. Does it help anything now? Nope.

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A lynch on day 1 isn't about who is being lynched.  It is about the cases made.  The results of the lynch add substance to the cases.

 

No lynch gets us no where.

 

UNVOTE VOTE PEACE

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Oh god. Stahp. Do you honestly think the claim of Nynaeve and Birgitte have the same weight? Or maybe the value of an Egwene claim vs Lini claim? Which one would you rather believe/lynch? Jesus christ who you claim DOES MATTER. What I don't understand is why you can't process that. Derp.

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Oh god. Stahp. Do you honestly think the claim of Nynaeve and Birgitte have the same weight? Or maybe the value of an Egwene claim vs Lini claim? Which one would you rather believe/lynch? Jesus christ who you claim DOES MATTER. What I don't understand is why you can't process that. Derp.

 

Because they can claim ANYONE. Who is going to stop them? Even if they trip up and make a false claim that someone can call them out on, who do you believe?

 

Yes, you hold back on Nynaeve because you believe there is potential there for that to be a power role. But then that person just put a big target on their backs for Mafia. Better yet, my posting this will only incite the mafia to go for Nynaeve now as this post will make me look terrible if she dies tonight.

 

But in terms of the Elayne or Birgitte claims? Do we even believe they would be vanilla town (In Elayne's case, mostly)? No, I think anyone could have come up with those and nothing to me is very convincing about them, nor do they hold me back from having whatever thoughts I would have about the poster/

 

Good luck if you think the Mafia are going to claim Forsaken.

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Len (5):  RTE, TG, Cloud, Tiink
Rand (2): Time, Pandy

Peace (3): Darthe, Talya, Peace

No lynch (10): Ishy, Rand, Kae, Kaylee, Roo, Len, Tress, Player, Moon, Kronos

Not voting (1): Tina

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

You have until Monday, Jan. 21st at 10 PM EST to achieve a majority. (Less than 2 hours from now.)
 

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You guys are kidding me right?

 

Peace, you say that getting a random is better than a no lynch which is definitely not true.  We have a higher chance of hitting town than scum with that which is antitown, and we don't get any info out of that lynch.

 

Secondly, you and RTE say that without the coroner of a lynch, there is nothing to go on and we go back to day 1 status giving mafia a free kill.  This is completely wrong.  There is so much information you can get from a no lynch, like the info we are getting right now.  The thing is that the people with the leading trains who are going to end up getting lynched are most likely town.  Our best hope right now is to no lynch. Someone please, do not let this go random, we are 1 away.

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The thing is that the people with the leading trains who are going to end up getting lynched are most likely town. 

 

?????

 

There are more town than there are mafia, but what makes you feel that Len and Darthe (and maybe Peace) are likely town?

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