The Ape's --- OUTBREAK MAFIA: GAME OVER!

[bgrishinko]

Okay then Verbal,

 

Do you have a NA?

[John McClane]

This is the rule:

 

1. Two role reveals per day phase. You may NOT reveal your character name. AFTER THE 2ND ONE IF ANYONE ATTEMPTS TO REVEAL OR HINT THERE ROLE I WILL MODKILL YOU WITHOUT QUESTION.

 

It contains all the information you need to answer your questions.

[Verbal32]

Okay then Verbal,

 

Do you have a NA?

 

I have no problem doing this, but I'm wary of the rule....my interpretation is that it is only for day.

 

 

My suggestion is check whoever you want - don't tell us - and then you can reveal the info tomorrow (if you choose, and obviously if you are alive). My reasoning for this is that if you say you'll check me, and I'm town, I could be the NK target to limit the amount of info/somewhat vetted townies we have.

[Blackhoof]

huh. well, thats annoying.

 

ugh i do not have any good reads on anyone at the moment.

[John McClane]

Click.

 

Got the jump on one of them sumbitches last night... made mashed potatoes out of its dead brains...

 

Click.

 

"Dr. Samuel Parker, PhD" (TinaHel) an infected Biologist (Vanilla Town) has been killed.

 

It is now Day 6...

[bgrishinko]

Gall Dern. Dangit Tina.

 

My NA was unsuccessful. That bodes poorly.

 

 

[bgrishinko]

I mean Dangit in that I trusted you and now you are gone

[Niniel]

 

Go town. We can still win this!

[bgrishinko]

Whoever our remainder is can simply block me it seems. So my role is useless now.

 

Does anyone else have any insight?

 

 

[bgrishinko]

Well, I think Verbal has been playing too clean of a game. For most people that would be a good thing, but from Verbal it worries me. So I'll get this party started.

 

Vote Verbal

[Verbal32]

Let me get this straight - you are voting me not because of a case, but rather because I'm a good player and a clean game means scum? Have you played that many games with me to meta this? Could it be I'm playing clean because I'm town?

 

If you'd like my opinion, I'm wondering what took the night phase a full freakin' day. I'm wondering where Hybrid and Amadine are.

 

What I'm not wondering, is about you and Hoof. I feel really good about you guys as town, as you've been posting pro-town the whole game, and Hoof (while I've had my doubts) has given me the belief that he's town as well.

 

 

If you are saying that you were blocked, that means I'm not scum. Cause I can guaran-damn-tee you the Doc would be dead right now if I'm scum. I would not leave that kind of no-NK night possible. No way.

 

My opinion is that either Hybrid or Amadine are the remaining scum.

 

I was planning on doing a re-read of them today (shouldn't be that hard, lol) and casing them for us. I suggest you do the same, and we compare notes.

 

That fair?

[bgrishinko]

Fair enough.

 

I have a little issue with Hoof dating back to Louiis deleted post though.

[bgrishinko]

Unvote

[Verbal32]

Fair enough.

 

I have a little issue with Hoof dating back to Louiis deleted post though.

 

That was what I was referring to, but I'm more concerned with what I said earlier - the folks who aren't posting are especially dangerous the later we get into the game....and how many people are alive? Lemme check that...brb.

[Verbal32]

Ok, 5 people left alive:

 

Hybrid

Amadine

Blackhoof

BG

Verbal

 

That is my order of suspicion. I have to go home soon, but I'll case Hybrid and Amadine either this evening or tomorrow morning (EST). We have time here, so let's use it.

 

I'm specifically waiting for 1 person to chime in here. I'm breadcrumbing this so I'm not accused of making stuff up later. Sorry if that sounds vague, but I will explain - and you will see why it is pro-town.

 

For now, let's just do some ole fashioned scumhunting.

[bgrishinko]

Well I can tell you I am town.

 

My computer cord died completely last night so I can only check in from my phone for a few days.

 

Amadine prides herself on not lying. That being said she can twist words like an Aes Sedai. See above for reference. She can indeed tell us that, but she never said she was town. Earlier she said she is not scum. True, she is not pond scum.

 

Interesting...

 

The last scum must have a role to RB me. So even while amega was alive, my viewings still accurately show who is innocent. As such, hoof and hybrid are not scum unless they chose NOT to use their abilities on the nights I viewed them.

 

Therefore either Amadine or Verb are scum. Also assuming everyone who has a power still uses it every night, we either don't have a Doc or one of you is the Doc.

 

Verb, you slyly avoided me calling you out on role claim. You willing now?

[Blackhoof]

Dratz about tina.

 

Anyway, we have five people, so we are only two mislynches away from losing. I trust BG for now and I believe verbal, so I shall

 

Vote Amadine

 

If she isn't scum but the doc is lucky.... well, we still are only a mislynch away from losing.

[John McClane]

Day 6 vote count:

 

Amadine (1) - Hoof

 

Not voting (5): Verbal, Amadine, BG, Hybrid

 

-----

 

With 5 players left, it takes 3 to lynch.

 

DEADLINE: Thursday 6PM EST

[Amadine]

I am town and at this point I believe its either verb or hybrid.

 

Verb's over defensive reply to the playing clean comment pushed him ahead of hybrid.

 

VOTE VERB

[Blackhoof]

Well, I WANT to trust you amadine, but it is logical for you to see us dissecting your words and then start lying to trick us.

 

Who would expect an Aes Sedai to lie, after all? ;)

[Verbal32]

I am town and at this point I believe its either verb or hybrid.

 

Verb's over defensive reply to the playing clean comment pushed him ahead of hybrid.

 

VOTE VERB

 

Hehe, how would you have reacted if somebody told you that you played a clean game and that made you scum? Not sure if it was overly defensive, but that is subjective anyhow.

 

However, in direct reply to your vote, it does appear pretty opportunistic of you to piggyback on BG's thoughts when the focus had shifted towards you and Hybrid.

 

I'll be casing you both this morning - let's see what turns up.

[John McClane]

Day 6 vote count:

 

Amadine (1) - Hoof

Verbal (1) - Amadine

 

Not voting (3): Verbal, BG, Hybrid

 

-----

 

With 5 players left, it takes 3 to lynch.

 

DEADLINE: Thursday 6PM EST

[Verbal32]

Ok, this is more lengthy than I thought....Hybrid has 17 posts, 4 of which are fluff (signups, joking around, random silly comments, etc.)....and the remaining ones are game-related. I included them all to be fair and comprehensive:

 

 

Checking in.

 

Vote Wombat

 

Technically game-related, but this was his 1st post of the game. No info.

 

 

 

Well, when I found out I was a mutated baboon, I certainly didn't expect everyone else to be one as well lol. I felt the need to act like I WASN'T a,mutant in case I got this reaction from everyone *facepalm*

 

Now how come all those people who kept making zombie references didn't get voted? Unless we have zombies AND mutants in one O.O

 

Comment around the Hoof fiasco of D1. No info.

 

 

 

really ishy? putting words in my mouth now are we?

 

i NEVER said that i am not town or have a different win condition. i feigned ignorance about who was town and who was mafia, that is all.

 

This doesn't sit well with me. You can't feign ignorance about something you didn't know.

 

Unvote, vote Blackhoof

 

L-1

 

His first real interaction - and the beginning of his push on Hoof.

 

 

 

Sorry I haven't been super active in this game. School's been super busy, but I'm doing my best to stay active.

 

Vote: BG

 

His reactions to the Kiv vs. Sakaea thing seem contrived.

 

I'm willing to go here as well, for now.

 

Vote BG

 

Comment about activity, and then a vote for BG, with no reason given. Suspicious, but not awful.

 

 

 

I'd also be cool with voting for Ishamael, at the moment.

 

Mentions Ishy (who was scum), but no vote or reason. Could be honest - could be distancing - no info.

 

 

 

I'd also be cool with voting for Ishamael, at the moment.

Any reason why?

 

Your posts following Sakaea's vote on Kivam, particularly this one:

 

This Hoof lynch started happening way too fast, is what smells.

 

Unvote, Vote Kivam for being the only one to not check in so far.

 

Wombat, pic = win...but you knew that, LOL

 

And there was also this on D1. You're really, really eager for this lynch aren't you? I'd really like to know why that is.

 

Interaction with Ishy, but again no vote. At this point in the game, I can't really decide whether it is honest or distancing. No info, for me at least.

 

 

 

TO BE CONTINUED....

[Verbal32]

I TOLD YOU ALL!!!

 

heheh, my first mafia lynch that i spearheaded

 

im so proud!

 

Quoted for preservation.

 

Another jab at Hoof, but more for info.

 

 

 

I TOLD YOU ALL!!!

 

heheh, my first mafia lynch that i spearheaded

 

im so proud!

 

Huh. A bit premature Hoof? You posted before Ishy was officially revealed.

 

Yup. He's probably going to be my starting vote tomorrow.

 

Lining up an attack on Hoof, which has basically been coming since his first handful of posts.

 

 

 

I don't have any overwhelming observations to make, but:

 

I still dislike Blackhoof's "jumping the gun" post, though maybe I'm just slow this game. Did anyone else quickly jump to the conclusion that a mafioso had died after reading the first mod post?

 

I'm wary of the late hammers (Blackhoof, Amadine).

 

And the Blackhoof/amegakure discussion at the start of Day 4 (?) feels contrived.

 

Vote Blackhoof

 

Also, if there's a serial killer, I think I'm tentatively leaning Verbal, but it's really just a gut feeling.

 

Finally votes Hoof after casing him further. Then mentions me as a SK, even though there hasn't been more than 1 NK in a night....which a few people pounced on him for, if I remember correctly.

 

 

 

At work..a bit suspect of ed right now..hoof also..so when I get bak ill try to dig up some stuff. Id like to see some stuff from hybrid. He isn't making bad vibes but who knows.

 

 

Well, the way i see it we have two choices- lynch amega again to see if his lynchproofyness is limited or lynch Ed as a lying liar who lies.

 

however, ed MAY be an insane finder, in which case they are BOTH likely town.

 

so, either a potentially lynchproof townie or our last claimed finder?

 

VOTE Amega

 

sorry...

 

 

Well Idk wat ed is. A liar or a insane cop either way he's wrong. Another thing is he sorta cased on sakeae. Also said he knew her role. Then said he thinks he knows. Also how did he go through and not view anyone else?. Fake claim or he knows he's insane?

 

Also hoof casing sakeae the other day. And im sure he threw out an Fos.

 

 

really?

 

very well, you raise some good points. i will switch my vote accordingly.

 

 

vote Ed

 

 

Not disengage lol dosent* Bloody phone does its own things these days!

 

 

i know what you mean :P

 

This was an interesting exchange. He is basically saying Hoof and ameg are in cahoots. He found the interaction suspicious. I did, too, but I have different thoughts now about it.

 

 

 

And the Blackhoof/amegakure discussion at the start of Day 4 (?) feels contrived.

 

I don't see a discussion anywhere. Not long, not short. VOTE Hybrid.

 

If you're going to accuse someone of lying, you should at least check to . . . you know . . . see if they're lying.

 

Just a shot back at Ley - nothing much here.

 

 

 

I agree with you, Hybrid. But Blackhoof was the one in the lead on Ishys lynch.

 

That's a fair point. Though Kivam did decide to bus Ishy very early in the lynch.

 

Agreeing with Tina on Hoof. Nothing to note, except it's more anti-Hoof stuff.

 

 

 

This post says that Kivam was the mafia night killer. I don´t know if that means that someone else inherited his killing ability. I don´t think it´s strange that Hybrid talks about a sk. I have brought it up earlier.

 

Yeah, it was a supposition based on the death of the mafia night killer and continued night kills on Finders.

 

Tries to defend his SK comment. Not a bad defense, but he was overlooking normal mafia mechanics on NKs passing to other team members. This was also brought up after his post. In both cases, not really a tell of anything. Just his thoughts (it appears).

 

 

 

I'm OK with Leyrann as a vote as well. He seems a little twitchy right now. Since no one seems to really share my suspicions of Blackhoof,

 

Unvote

 

Vote Leyrann

 

I think this was his most recent post? More anti-Hoof, and a vote to the major train of that day.

 

 

 

Conclusion to come in another post.

[Verbal32]

Ok. All in all, Hybrid's game has centered on Blackhoof. Out of 17 posts, 13 have been game-related. Of those 13, 7 were anti-Hoof and nothing else.

 

That makes over 50% of his game focused on 1 player. His only other item of note is the interaction with Ishy and the lack of a vote. That is a little suspicious, and my conclusion is that I'm leaning distancing on that one. Not enough for a vote, however, so I need to case Amadine as well.

 

 

 

 

To be continued....