The Ape's --- OUTBREAK MAFIA: GAME OVER!

[bgrishinko]

I only have one person I'm sure didn't kill last night, obviously. I have a few other guesses who didn't, but if Amega was submitting the NK, then my other viewings don't mean much if the last mafia is vanilla.

[bgrishinko]

I do know a bunch of people who aren't Doc.... if we even have one.

[Niniel]

Who do you find most scummy, BG?

[Amadine]

I am not scum. I have been having internet problems *throws it against the wall* The vote on Amega was due to posting before i went back to count how many votes he had already - it's an error i make all the time - as town and scum.

 

That said if we have one scum player left, which makes sense due to numbers, then it would be a valid play for that player to try to slid through unnoticed while the remaining townies kill each other off.Due to that VOTE HYBRID

[bgrishinko]

Judging by how quickly night ends the past few days, its gotta be someone relatively active.

[Amadine]

Active lurking is a well known fact though.

[bgrishinko]

True. Just saying online.

[Leyrann]

(did a reread. Last post I use information is post #529. If there are any important posts after it, I'll reply to them)

 

So, I've read the first 184 posts. And I've seen Louii acting scummy multiple times. This was the worst:

 

EDIT: Sorry didn't think that through too well.

 

Unvote for now. I need to go do some re-reading.

 

He is now replaced by Hoof. We don't know what was in it, I think it was a slip. This is another post that made him look scummy (or, two, read the underlined parts in the last and second-to-last quote):

 

Checking in!

 

 

Vote Wombat cuz I really don't want to catch that rash

 

 

The rash isn't that bad once you get used to it... a little bit baby powder on it does wonders.

 

You've had it too... it must be spreading!!

 

*runs away screaming*

 

 

My gut feeling says we are looking at a screaming mafia member here. Unvote. Vote Louii.

Ok big fail on my part here. Got myself a little confused with the whole infected = good guys and non-infected = bad guys thing. To me the other way around makes more sense. If I were mafia, would I really have posted that knowing full well which way the infection went? That would have been a really bloody stupid, suicidal thing to do. I just got a tad confuzzled. I apologise.

 

I know this isn't really fair for Hoof, but these are most likely slip-ups, and the alignment doesn't change with a replacement. VOTE Hoof. For real, this time, lol.

 

O, and I too have an idea why they did that earlier one on Ishy, if I am right. They knew a Townie would die, and this made Hoof look more innocent. Only, he made that mistake of the "first Mafia lynch he had spearheaded", before we knew Ishy was mafia. Do you agree with this?

[Leyrann]

O, and what is a hunch exactly?

[bgrishinko]

A hunch is a just a feeling.

 

@Ley - To be honest here, until I have time to go back and look, I'm basing my vote on a few facts I have. i.e. A few people I know haven't moved on particular nights, and activity factor... but that's not a lot to go off of. I need to review some folks.

 

So Unvote

[Verbal32]

The doc should have protected Ed. Very strange.

 

Mod - are we not 7 players alive?

 

I have done a re-read and I find it hard to decide who to vote. Hybrid and Ama has not been here much and unfortunately not me either.

 

BG - I believed your claim but I would like to know if you have found someone in the night that haven´t been visiting someone else. You don´t have to name them but if you know anyone that have slept during this night then you can save him/her if we are about to lynch him/her. I guess you haven´t checked Ley since you voted him because of a hunch.

 

Blackhoof - I don´t know. First Louii made those scummy posts but I know this is just her second game. Then you look very townie by leading the lynch on Ishy. Then you voted Amega but changed to Ed. I want to believe you are town but I don´t know.

 

Ama - have not been here much. I know she had some internet problems but she haven´t been here much after that either. She voted Amega when he was already hammered. This is the exact kind of play that she have done in other games when she was scum.

 

Hybrid - how can we know?

 

Verbal - I think he is scum. He never voted Ishy and I felt that he tried to stall Ishy´s train by voting BG. He did some joke posts with Wombat. He have been very unhelpful. I know he had vacation but he use to post much more.

 

Ley - I don´t feel like he is mafia. But if we have a sk he could be it.

 

So apparently I fos everyone except BG. lol This is hard. I would go for Ama or Verbal. Vote Verbal.

 

As it only takes 4 to lynch, let me address this. I didn't vote Ishy because I agreed with Wombat's case on bg. If I'm scum, you are saying I avoided a perfect way to distance myself in favor of what turned out to be a minority train? Here are some relevant posts:

 

 

This may be worth looking into, if we lynch Kiv and he is indeed mafia,then we gain a great advantage. Early kill on a high value Target. If not, then Kiv sacrifices himself to get a mafioso.

 

Then again, Kiv is a top notch player and a great scum hunter so this could be a sacrificial play by mafia to topple him.

 

Hmm....

 

This one pinged me hardcore. "This may be worth looking into" sounds really bad in my head in this context. Also, the post doesn't really say anything that isn't obvious.

 

I forgot that quote. My bad. I was quoting from after Kiv claimed Doc.

 

But I still think you are intentionally picking apart my every word to find the faintest hint of scum, when there is no malcontent to begin with. Now, due to your continued focus on me (among other things) I believe that you are either vanilla town or vanilla mafia. Either way, I don't believe someone with a role would laser focus on me so much and bring attention to himself when there is better good or worse evil he could be doing.

 

Meh, I don't find his FOS on you (or vote) suspicious. I read posts as if the person who made them meant to have each word in there. If an obvious slip is made, well...that's different. In your case, the post, along with the timing, does seem suspicious. Enough for a pressure vote, at least.

Vote Bg.

Unvote. Vote Ishy

 

I love it when the OMGUS is obvious. No need to hide it - we all know it, heh.

 

 

 

Also, iirc BG said something like he thinks I am vanilla. Not a very townie comment. It is rolefishy and also could help narrow the pool for the scum to find our doc.

 

While I agree it is not townie, I didn't see it as rolefishy. I saw it as potential scum cozying up to a townie (if you are) as he already knew your alignment and hoped you'd feel better about him once he notes you're town.

 

So I guess I agree with your overall statement, but not how you got there. If that makes sense. ^_^

 

So those posts are basically showing my reasons for a vote on bg, which I never ended up removing. Wombat made a good point, I agreed, and voted accordingly.....and several others did as well. I specifically stated it was for pressure, as the responses bg had made to Wombat prior to that were a little suspect to me, and I thought more pressure might help shake something loose.

 

 

 

Fortunately, after work beers dragged on a bit longer than I expected... therefore, deadline is now. I'm counting Wombat's vote... besides, I don't want to do the killing, as previously stated. I will say, I am pretty underwhelmed that I've now had to bail you guys out from 3 modkills.... its internet mafia folks, live by the sword, sheesh.

 

FNIAL Day 2 Vote Count:

 

Ishmael (7) - Leyrann, Blackhoof, Ed2, Tina, BG, Sakaea, Wombat

BG (3) - Hybrid, Amadine, Verbal,

 

Not Voting (2) - Amega, Ishmael

 

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

- 1 role reveal has been used by Sakea (claimed Finder)

- 1 role reveal has been used by Kivam (claimed Doc)

- 1 role reveal has been used by BG (claimed to have confirmed information due to a role)

 

 

Click.

 

Umm... hi, this is Jenny from HR... I um... I'm talking into Dave's recorder. He, he would have wanted me to keep up his record keeping of this event... for research purposes... I think.

 

Click.

 

And here was the final vote count - as you can see, I'm on bg's train along with Hybrid and Amadine. And Amadine is now voting for Hybrid. I'm not making a connection there, btw - just an observation. At this point in the game, I'm not comfortable with letting a player totally skate by with minimal content. I'm not sure I'd qualify my posts thus far as "unhelpful", but that's a subjective observation on your part.

 

That being said, I'm not yet ready to vote Hybrid. It could potentially turn into a quick lynch, and that isn't what today should be about.

[John McClane]

Day 5 vote count:

 

Verbal (1) - Tina

Hoof (1) - Leyrann

Hybrid (1) - Amadine

 

Not voting (4): bg, Verbal, Hybrid, Blackhoof

 

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With 7 players left, it takes 4 to lynch.

 

DEADLINE: Sunday 11PM EST

[bgrishinko]

Alright, since I'm the only one everyone knows has a role, I don't want to reveal my list of FoS suspects until after I hear everyone else. It would likely hint as to what I already know. I'd like everyone else to list off their most likely suspects first then I can look at my info and correlate it.

 

From what I understand, the suspicions look something like this:

 

Tina - Amadine, Verbal

Ama - Hybrid

Verb - Amadine, Hybrid

Ley - Blackhoof

Hybrid -

Blackhoof -

BG - (Ley, among others)

 

Let me know if I'm mistaken, or you are looking at someone else.

[Niniel]

As I said I´m very unsure. From what I have seen in other games I pick Verbal and Ama but really the only one I don´t suspect is you right now.

[Niniel]

I want to hear what Hybrid has to say. Weekends tend to slow down the game but I hope you will be here before deadline so we don´t need to have the last minute lynch.

[bgrishinko]

Also, with only 4 needed, last minute lynches aren't common.

 

You know Tina, this feels slightly familiar to me, reminds me of the Halo Mafia game we were in.

[Niniel]

Yes, I thought of that too. You remember who was mafia then. Maybe we should ask Ama right out if she is town?

[bgrishinko]

Ha. Yeah.

[Verbal32]

As I said I´m very unsure. From what I have seen in other games I pick Verbal and Ama but really the only one I don´t suspect is you right now.

 

I'd say this if you were voting for me or Amadine, but I'm not really stoked about you basing a late game vote on pure meta. You made a case on my bg vote, which I responded to. I'm cool with that. But I can't really respond to meta arguments, and they are shaky at best. Too much WIFOM embedded in meta-based decisions, imo.

[Verbal32]

Also, with only 4 needed, last minute lynches aren't common.

 

You know Tina, this feels slightly familiar to me, reminds me of the Halo Mafia game we were in.

 

How so? (right after I post about meta being bad, I'm now........doing it) O_o

[Verbal32]

Sorry for the triple post - I should have included this info in a prior one...

 

bgrishinko- 83

Blackhoof- 44

Leyrann- 32

Verbal32- 31

TinaHel- 30

Amadine- 13

Hybrid- 10

 

Hybrid is skating by. The question is whether he's doing this as town or scum. There isn't enough content for me to really case him, and that bugs me. It makes me feel like I can't even vote him, and at this point in the game, players in that position are extremely dangerous.

 

Thoughts?

[Verbal32]

Aaaaannnnd....quadruple post. hehe

 

At work..a bit suspect of ed right now..hoof also..so when I get bak ill try to dig up some stuff. Id like to see some stuff from hybrid. He isn't making bad vibes but who knows.

 

Just bumping this in my re-read. Made me think of distancing. We know Ed was town, so left is Hoof and Hybrid. In this instance, I feel scum is likely to distance and include a teammate. Makes the inevitable lynch of scum (ameg) allow townies to disregard things in his posts.....like who he FOS'ed.

[Niniel]

Sorry for the triple post - I should have included this info in a prior one...

 

bgrishinko- 83

Blackhoof- 44

Leyrann- 32

Verbal32- 31

TinaHel- 30

Amadine- 13

Hybrid- 10

 

Hybrid is skating by. The question is whether he's doing this as town or scum. There isn't enough content for me to really case him, and that bugs me. It makes me feel like I can't even vote him, and at this point in the game, players in that position are extremely dangerous.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

I agree. Very annoying.

 

Aaaaannnnd....quadruple post. hehe

 

At work..a bit suspect of ed right now..hoof also..so when I get bak ill try to dig up some stuff. Id like to see some stuff from hybrid. He isn't making bad vibes but who knows.

 

Just bumping this in my re-read. Made me think of distancing. We know Ed was town, so left is Hoof and Hybrid. In this instance, I feel scum is likely to distance and include a teammate. Makes the inevitable lynch of scum (ameg) allow townies to disregard things in his posts.....like who he FOS'ed.

 

Normally Amega wouldn´t do that but I think he voted or FOS´ed a teammate before in this game. (Can´t remember where.) He might had teammates that told him to. IDK.

[Leyrann]

Alright, since I'm the only one everyone knows has a role, I don't want to reveal my list of FoS suspects until after I hear everyone else. It would likely hint as to what I already know. I'd like everyone else to list off their most likely suspects first then I can look at my info and correlate it.

 

BG - (Ley, among others)

 

Let me know if I'm mistaken, or you are looking at someone else.

 

You don't trust me, just because I've never made a Night Action? If you check me next night, you will see I do not do a night action. And I expect that you can see the mafia kill, if you check the person sending in the kill.

[bgrishinko]

Alright, since I'm the only one everyone knows has a role, I don't want to reveal my list of FoS suspects until after I hear everyone else. It would likely hint as to what I already know. I'd like everyone else to list off their most likely suspects first then I can look at my info and correlate it.

 

BG - (Ley, among others)

 

Let me know if I'm mistaken, or you are looking at someone else.

 

You don't trust me, just because I've never made a Night Action? If you check me next night, you will see I do not do a night action. And I expect that you can see the mafia kill, if you check the person sending in the kill.

 

Honestly, there is only one person I really trust right now, and a few semi-trusts. I hope I don't need to check on you. I hope we kill that remaining scum first.