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killuliu Collaborator

killuliu

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I say we extend Day and lynch Kill.

 

They could eaily be a town/mafia partnership.

 

Also I would say 2 or 3 mafia left. 5 or 6 to start off sounds stupid. I can only come up with a few reasons why it might hit 5.

 

Mafia != non-town

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killuliu Collaborator

killuliu

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:thinkinginthread:

 

The other thing you might want to consider, if you are determined to lynch either me or Kill, is which one of us to do. We are both the same so it makes no difference really.

 

But Kill has only just joined and I would feel bad about him getting dead so quickly. He's not even really had a chance to play. Mind, I have been playing and following the game more as its been going along - so might be more sensitive to what's been happening and therefore more useful in the rest of the game.

 

I dunno really. The selfish part of me has been enjoying playing this game. I think its the first game I have ever enjoyed and its basically been because I've not been on my own (berf briefly, jack lots and now kill) or on the bad guys team. But Kill deserves a chance to actually play the game for a bit and if you lynch me he will be exonerated. At least till the Mafia NK him the next night to stop you all from having a confirmed Townie in your midst.

 

I think I will leave you all to make your own choice on that though. Obviously I would prefer than neither of us die.

 

If it comes to that, I wish it was me who'd get lynched. You deserve to play this game to the end. But if the other of us gets lynched, the other is pretty sure to die the following night, for the mafia doesn't want confirmed townies..

Ithillian Turambar Spam Master

Ithillian Turambar

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I say we extend Day and lynch Kill.

 

They could eaily be a town/mafia partnership.

 

Also I would say 2 or 3 mafia left. 5 or 6 to start off sounds stupid. I can only come up with a few reasons why it might hit 5.

 

:wakesuptoEd'scrazytheories:

 

Did you REALLY just say that? How on earth would there be a mafia person and a town person on the same team? How would that even work?

 

Me and Kill are both Town you freak!

 

:totallynotbeingnicetoyou:

Ithillian Turambar Spam Master

Ithillian Turambar

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Really Ama - you've seen a Mafia person and a Town person on the same team before?

 

Ok

 

That sounds a bit odd - but I guess some Mods like to mix it up a bit.

 

And Ishy - fair enough. When one of us dies hopefully it will lead to the Mafia Team getting found out.

John E. Kelley Master

John E. Kelley

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Really Ama - you've seen a Mafia person and a Town person on the same team before?

 

Ok

 

That sounds a bit odd - but I guess some Mods like to mix it up a bit.

 

And Ishy - fair enough. When one of us dies hopefully it will lead to the Mafia Team getting found out.

 

Good Lord lass, don't you ever sleep??

Niniel Spam Master

Niniel

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I am Icarium, SK.

 

 

I am Icarium, SK.

 

Serial Killer o.O i think we've got ourselves a target for lynch tomorrow....

 

OMG 1: Do you openly admit that you are serial killer!!! What kind of crazy play is this?

 

OMG 2: I think a lot of people are getting tunnel vision. Between Christine`s and Amadine`s posts Ishy, Kate, Ed and Kill posted (and Ishy again after Amadine´s post) without comment on this!!! Have you gone blind? Isn´t Christine´s post worth at least one comment?

killuliu Collaborator

killuliu

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Really Ama - you've seen a Mafia person and a Town person on the same team before?

 

Ok

 

That sounds a bit odd - but I guess some Mods like to mix it up a bit.

 

And Ishy - fair enough. When one of us dies hopefully it will lead to the Mafia Team getting found out.

 

Good Lord lass, don't you ever sleep??

 

And this is not the first time I have seen people ask her this...

Ithillian Turambar Spam Master

Ithillian Turambar

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Hahaha - I have been sleeping. On and off a bit tonight though. Two small children with colds and coughs and teething. I'm sure you understand Ishy.

 

 

Also - while I am about, I'll be damned if I let the Mafia team get an easily victory just because there has been some weird play going on. So ... Lily said that she redirected an action of Berf/Kill's - this is still not correct as there was no action as their role is Vanilla. I have asked Jack whether he would deliberately mislead Lily and he says not - so I'm none the wiser why she said what she said.

 

The thing is, cos she did say it - and I knew it simply wasn't true - it was obvious to me that she was on the Mafia team. Obviously now we know that I was wrong about that and the chain moves onto me because of that.

 

You now think that I lied about Lily lying and so I must be Mafia. I get that. Its exactly what I thought about Lily afterall.

 

What I would like though, if possible, is the Chain of Town Lynches to END with either me or Kill. I'm probably teaching some of you to suck eggs - but please don't just go with an initial gut reaction in response to us being found to be Town after all. If you do that - you could just end up lynching yet another Town, while the Mafia slink and hide and laugh at us all.

 

Please read back first and piece stuff together. That's all I'm asking really.

killuliu Collaborator

killuliu

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I am Icarium, SK.

 

 

I am Icarium, SK.

 

Serial Killer o.O i think we've got ourselves a target for lynch tomorrow....

 

OMG 1: Do you openly admit that you are serial killer!!! What kind of crazy play is this?

 

OMG 2: I think a lot of people are getting tunnel vision. Between Christine`s and Amadine`s posts Ishy, Kate, Ed and Kill posted (and Ishy again after Amadine´s post) without comment on this!!! Have you gone blind? Isn´t Christine´s post worth at least one comment?

 

Yes it is worth commenting, but I dislike writing long messages with phone, so I'm waiting till I get home.

ed2funy Spam Master

ed2funy

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I am Icarium, SK.

 

Serial Killer o.O i think we've got ourselves a target for lynch tomorrow....

 

If she isn't NKed, I think we should find out if she is a Vig and not SK...I was a 2-shot vig.

If she is willing, either way, we could vote one who she should kill....

 

 

 

I say we extend Day and lynch Kill.

 

They could eaily be a town/mafia partnership.

 

Also I would say 2 or 3 mafia left. 5 or 6 to start off sounds stupid. I can only come up with a few reasons why it might hit 5.

 

:wakesuptoEd'scrazytheories:

 

Did you REALLY just say that? How on earth would there be a mafia person and a town person on the same team? How would that even work?

 

Me and Kill are both Town you freak!

 

:totallynotbeingnicetoyou:

 

Yes. It's been done before. By Jack (8th Sin Mafia). And by other mods.

 

Oh, and I should mention I HAD that role (what I am proposing Kill could have). In Jack's 8th Sin game.

 

:snortsatnewbieswhoarenarrowminded:

I've seen it before Ithi, you are not doing yourself any favours....

 

^

 

 

I am Icarium, SK.

 

 

I am Icarium, SK.

 

Serial Killer o.O i think we've got ourselves a target for lynch tomorrow....

 

OMG 1: Do you openly admit that you are serial killer!!! What kind of crazy play is this?

 

OMG 2: I think a lot of people are getting tunnel vision. Between Christine`s and Amadine`s posts Ishy, Kate, Ed and Kill posted (and Ishy again after Amadine´s post) without comment on this!!! Have you gone blind? Isn´t Christine´s post worth at least one comment?

 

I was on my phone and at work, but see above.

 

 

 

Ithillian Turambar Spam Master

Ithillian Turambar

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Can Christine still kill people? I thought everyone lost their special powers when Nolder died, or would she have not been affected by that for some reason? SKs are anti town though and she has openly admitted that. She's a better lynch than me or Kill because of that.

 

Also - I swear by all the hours of MSN chats, by the crazy take-over and randomisation of the Aiel Invasion, by our Epic Escape from SG, by the Awesomeness of Damodred, by the power of Star Wars and even by the love and friendship I have for berf (so you KNOW I am not messing about here) - Me and Kill are BOTH Town.

Amadine Master

Amadine

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Really Ama - you've seen a Mafia person and a Town person on the same team before?

 

Ok

 

That sounds a bit odd - but I guess some Mods like to mix it up a bit.

 

And Ishy - fair enough. When one of us dies hopefully it will lead to the Mafia Team getting found out.

 

FYI

 

 

http://mafiascum.net...?title=Neighbor

Neighbor

NeighborAlias:

  • Mason

Alignment:anyRole type:

  • Linked
  • Passive
  • Informative

Choice:

  • none

Neighbors are players that can speak to each other privately at Night. Unlike Masons, there is no guarantee made of any Neighbor's alignment.

 

This version of Neighbor, and only this version of Neighbor, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net.

 

See also Neighborizer. In addition, a few Theme games have specialized and powerful Neighbor groups with names like High Council, etc. While they are Neighbors, they also have other influential abilities to be used as a group.

 

 

Use and Power

Neighbors are essentially unconfirmed Masons where the moderator honestly acknowledges no expectation of one Neighbor having the same alignment as any other Neighbor. In an ideal world, the alignment of any Neighbor would be as random as the alignment of the player itself. In practice - and especially in Themed games - Neighbor is seen as an excuse to mix scum Neighbors where they would have been called bastard for doing so with a Masonry.

 

To that end, the real power of Neighbors comes from their ability to speak to each other. Scum players, particularly those that do not like playing as scum, will not be able to maintain a pro-Town appearance for very long if engaged in dialogue like if they were a Mason. Thus, in the hands of skilled players a Neighborhood can function either as a Masonry (if both players are Town) or a directed Cop investigation (if one is not Town). In the hands of unskilled players, Neighbors are virtually useless.

 

Thus, Neighbor is a fairly low-tier power role that amplifies the skill of its players. This does not mean that you can stuff a game with them - if the Neighbors deduce that they are all Town, they will begin to act like Masons. Masons, to contrast, are quite powerful.

 

 

Play Advice

If you are one of three Neighbors, chances are reasonable that one of the other Neighbors is scum.

 

If you are one of four Neighbors, chances are very good that at least one of the other Neighbors is scum.

 

If there are multiple Neighborhoods in the same game, chances are very good that at least one of them has a scum Neighbor.

 

If you are one of more than four Neighbors, it is nearly certain that at least one representative of every anti-Town faction is in the Neighborhood.

 

 

Amadine Master

Amadine

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"AAAHHHH!!!" someone screamed, a blood chilling scream. Then a sickly sound like flesh and organs being rendered apart had awoken everyone. The slaughter that was left was beyond words. K'Rul elder god of the warrens lay ripped in pieces. He decided to play the mortal game at the wrong time, for everyone. Someone else missing. Fiddler lay motionless, clenching the deck of dragons. All the color had bled off of the cards and he lay silent. His throat was slit rather precisely."

 

Nolder - K'Rul - Survivor has been nk

Red - fiddler - townie finder has been nk

 

With the death of K'Rul this has became a vanilla game. If you had a previous ability, you do not have it anymore, excepting a kill ability. Welcome to Jack mafia.

 

Jack states that kill abilities remain - i believe Christine to be our best bet for tomorrow with the information we have at this stage.

 

 

 

Ithillian Turambar Spam Master

Ithillian Turambar

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Jack says he is NOT a bastard Mod though in this game, so he has NOT put a fake Town (actually really Mafia) in with me. Me and Kill are not Neighbours - we are Masons. We know each other's allignment is Town and fully support each other on that.

 

This is only my third game in the world ever you know. I'm sure there are a zillion more roles and set ups that I have never heard of aswell lol.

Ithillian Turambar Spam Master

Ithillian Turambar

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Rofl - I'm gonna read that as Pro-Town Ama :biggrin:

 

 

Also

 

Am off out with the family to Drayton Manor Theme Park and Thomas Land today - so don't be expecting much more from me, unless you have me on FB - in which case, pictures will be forthcoming.

 

Have a good day today everyone.

 

Ithi x

ed2funy Spam Master

ed2funy

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Can Christine still kill people? I thought everyone lost their special powers when Nolder died, or would she have not been affected by that for some reason? SKs are anti town though and she has openly admitted that. She's a better lynch than me or Kill because of that.

 

Also - I swear by all the hours of MSN chats, by the crazy take-over and randomisation of the Aiel Invasion, by our Epic Escape from SG, by the Awesomeness of Damodred, by the power of Star Wars and even by the love and friendship I have for berf (so you KNOW I am not messing about here) - Me and Kill are BOTH Town.

 

You should read more than you post. :wink: Only people who kill did not lose their power.

 

That's why I want her to clarify if she is a SK or Vig.

Also, if she is a SK, the mafia will take her out.

 

 

 

Jack says he is NOT a bastard Mod though in this game, so he has NOT put a fake Town (actually really Mafia) in with me. Me and Kill are not Neighbours - we are Masons. We know each other's allignment is Town and fully support each other on that.

 

This is only my third game in the world ever you know. I'm sure there are a zillion more roles and set ups that I have never heard of aswell lol.

Doesn't have to be a bastard game to have that role.

:tongue:

 

 

 

*yoinks link from Ama* Didn't have that specific link, just diff characters. :D

 

 

 

 

Christine Spam Master

Christine

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*waves* Hi! I got my powers when someone died, I guess. I was Vanilla Townie from the begining. And you lot asked and demanded for people to claim roles, and you all flipped out that Icarium would go on a killing spree. No. I am simply... let me double check the wording. Since Mappo died, GG on lynching him you lot, I am now an SK. So, go ahead, lynch me, but you made me who I am. Might as well use it to our advantage.

killuliu Collaborator

killuliu

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First of all, some of you might already know this, if you have played with me before. I never lie in mafia games. I try to overall avoid lying, but in DM (and inother mafias as well) I never make a single lie. Well, you just have to accept my word if you haven't noticed it before :)

 

Second, there are few premises I will make:

1)

With asurvivor in the game, I would guess we started with 4 mafia. Thatwould make a perfect 3:1 Town-to-Mafia ratio.

 

2)

Jack isn't bastard modding(which he has said, he isn't).

 

So. Here is the player list:

 

1.Lily - Ganoes Parran – lynchedDay 3 - innocent redirector turned vanilla

2. Tina - claimed Gessler, Tough

3. Ithi - claimed Shadowthrone, Mason

4. Kil -claimed the Rope, Mason

5. Wombat - Blend, 50% chance of avoiding NAs

6. Hoof -lynched Day 2 - vanilla townie

7. Vambram - Lynched day 1 - doctor town

8. Amadine - claimed Tavore Paran, vanilla

9.Nolder - nked night 2 - survivor

10.Red - nked night 2 - finder

11.Kate - claimed Smiles, vanilla

12. Ishmael - claimed Bottle, vanilla

13. Christine - claimed Icarium, SK

14.Ameg - killed day 2 - mafia godfather

15.Krak - claimed Janath Anar, vanilla

16. Ed - claimed 2-shot vig

17. Aemon - nknight 1 - vanilla townie

 

 

 

 

So we have 17 people, of which 7 are dead. Of the dead, only one is mafia, one is neutral and 5 are town. I think the ratio wombat assumed is quite good, so we would still have 3 mafias to go. 1/3 of the 17 players is 5.66, so we would have 5-6 non-townies (survivors, SK, mafias etc. who don't win with the town), so it could be possible, that SK wouldn't take up the mafia share (ie we would have 3 mafias and 1SK), but it could also be that we have only 2 mafias to go, and a SK.

 

With 6 or 7 living townies, we could “afford” to lose 3 or 4 townies in the bestcase (2 mafias, 1 SK), and in the worst case only 2 or 3 (3 mafias),while still having a chance of winning.

 

Most likely we would have 7 living townies, as Wombat suggested, but personally I'm no mod, so I don't know that much about balancing things. That would mean we still have only two mafias to hunt down.

 

 

 

 

So I begin my story, which should explain things:

 

Last Sunday, when I came home, I had one PM from Jack, who asked if I'd replace someonein his game. I didn't refuse. He gave me my character and role, and told me to contact Ith, so she would give me the link to the QT. Well I did as I was told.

 

Then things startedto become interesting:

Iredirected Berfs action to Red last night. I was so sure she wasscum. Sorry, guys. But, I found a killer.

 

VoteKill

 

Well,maybe I found a killer. It could be a coincidence I suppose.

 

What I find so odd in here, is the certainty she has: she admits that it might be coincidence, but never really returns to that. All began going wrong when she assumed she really had redirected a night action, even though she couldn't have, for I don't have one. The wording (“I redirected Berfs action...”) made it seem like she must be lying, for it made it look like Jack would have confirmed her that her redirecting had success (which Jack later denied). I assume that she just saw that she had attempted to redirect my NA she supposed I had, to Red, who then happened to die, and though there must be a connection. After that, she dismissed other possibilities.

 

I must say that I (and Ith it seems) are guilty for the same crime: we dismissed the possibility that she didn't lie.

 

Well at least this scenario caused lots of activity, and I think I have pretty good ideawho are the mafias, but more of that later.

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