[Advanced/Experimental] Game of Thrones Mafia

[DPR]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:25 PM, Smash said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:24 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

CTM, your plan would sound great except for that pesky little issue of Survivors having to choose a House by D3, or play solo. You also seem to be fogetting that one a vote is paid for and placed, it stays put for the day. I'm not sure that I feel real good about you right now...

 

hey while your at it why dont you post the entire freakin PM for survivors ?

 

It's already been posted, so I'm not talking about anything new.

 

The obvious play here is to use the issue of th NK's as a litmus test.

 

1. Everyone picks a player, and asks them "the question".

2. That player PM's the Mod with the answer.

3. The Mod confirms if the answer is correct or not.

 

I've already asked the Mod if he would be willing ot do this. That way, no more infomration leaks out, and we can begin to organize.

 

 

 

[DPR]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:29 PM, John McClane said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:24 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

CTM, your plan would sound great except for that pesky little issue of Survivors having to choose a House by D3, or play solo. You also seem to be fogetting that one a vote is paid for and placed, it stays put for the day. I'm not sure that I feel real good about you right now...

 

Do we know that about bought votes for sure? Where was it made common knowledge, or is this a slip?

 

I asked the mod about that, and he confirmed it to be true (in case someone wanted to take advatage of a higher offer...just saying.)

 

I don't feel like I'm the only one who asked this, and I believe it is advantageous to the game to know it now.

 

The other remark was made a while ago, but I don't remember where.

 

 

 

[Red2111]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:23 PM, Smash said:

The reason I held back was because its not a good idea to reveal at this point I was hopeing it would blow over but it did not.

 

i can understand this

 

 

Just because my vote is sitting on you does not mean Im not hunting Cult. Ill move my vote when the time comes.

 

my point wasn't about where your vote was, but the fact that your posts are still focusing on me. if your real about hunting cult, start pressuring other people or atleast giving us yoru thoughts on whose likely to be cult and why or whose not likely to be cult and why.

 

 

What should tell you Im a bannerman is the lack of votes coming my way, you should need no more proof than this, anything else is wasting time.

 

i don't knwo this, for all i know soem of the votes we bought on you could be Stark; or some of the votes on me coudl be Stark and they feel i'm more important than the cult right now. i've asked Kiv is House members votes can be bought, i'll post the answer shortly. if house memebrs votes can't be bought, this will vet you even more. i'd still prefer the Starks to vet you by offering Womby a counter, sicne he's willing to post if one has been offered

 

 

@CTM who was the first to claim that survivors should know why the NK's did not go through you or the APE ?

 

 

my responses are in Red. also, i encourage others to ask the same questions i am to Kiv so you guys can be sure i'm not jerking ya'll around. pcik soem of my info and ask him if he can clarify it; thsi you might get a PAFO on, i know almsot every question i've asked about the cult has been PAFO. even more reason to do away with them.

[Pac]

I actually don't mind the idea of voting someone other than Red of Smash in hopes of catching the CL. I still like a lynch of Lanth.

 

but then again... if we leave Red alive and she isn't killed by the Starks tonight then the CL would be stupid NOT to convert her and get the names of her house members.

 

hmm.

[Smash]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:35 PM, Pac said:

I actually don't mind the idea of voting someone other than Red of Smash in hopes of catching the CL. I still like a lynch of Lanth.

 

but then again... if we leave Red alive and she isn't killed by the Starks tonight then the CL would be stupid NOT to convert her and get the names of her house members.

 

hmm.

 

your very smart tatoo.

[Red2111]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:30 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:25 PM, Smash said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:24 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

CTM, your plan would sound great except for that pesky little issue of Survivors having to choose a House by D3, or play solo. You also seem to be fogetting that one a vote is paid for and placed, it stays put for the day. I'm not sure that I feel real good about you right now...

 

hey while your at it why dont you post the entire freakin PM for survivors ?

 

It's already been posted, so I'm not talking about anything new.

 

The obvious play here is to use the issue of th NK's as a litmus test.

 

1. Everyone picks a player, and asks them "the question".

2. That player PM's the Mod with the answer.

3. The Mod confirms if the answer is correct or not.

 

I've already asked the Mod if he would be willing ot do this. That way, no more infomration leaks out, and we can begin to organize.

 

 

i like this thought, but i see a potential for abuse on this. it's better than just out right stating the info though.

 

 

 

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:33 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

I asked the mod about that, and he confirmed it to be true (in case someone wanted to take advatage of a higher offer...just saying.)

 

this is true, once you accept a bribe from one team, your vote cannot be rebought for the rest of the day. we asked this incase the Starks wanted to play dirty and try to bribe people whove we already spent money on.

 

what we're still unsure of is if we can move those votes to different people while their bought or is they have to stay on smash.

[Pac]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:30 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

It's already been posted, so I'm not talking about anything new.

 

The obvious play here is to use the issue of th NK's as a litmus test.

 

1. Everyone picks a player, and asks them "the question".

2. That player PM's the Mod with the answer.

3. The Mod confirms if the answer is correct or not.

 

I've already asked the Mod if he would be willing ot do this. That way, no more infomration leaks out, and we can begin to organize.

 

your plan is poop. sounds like an invitation for bastard modding. even if Kiv was on the up and up it would still be a monumental cluster pluck with this crowd.

[Pac]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:40 PM, Smash said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:35 PM, Pac said:

I actually don't mind the idea of voting someone other than Red of Smash in hopes of catching the CL. I still like a lynch of Lanth.

 

but then again... if we leave Red alive and she isn't killed by the Starks tonight then the CL would be stupid NOT to convert her and get the names of her house members.

 

hmm.

 

your very smart tatoo.

 

sometimes I see more than just the plane.

[Naeann]

  On 8/18/2011 at 11:32 AM, Smash said:

The only mistake I made in this game was weighing in on why 3 players survived night kills, which other players seemed to be "in the know" as to why that happened "survivors". There was no way I could have known that since no information was in my PM about it, so it basicly fingered me as either a bannerman or cult. At that point there was not much I could do but reveal, or die under suspicion of being cult.

 

I find it funny Red is throwing all this gold around just to get me lynched and from my view this is great for team Stark as the Lannisters keep wasting their gold. Whats even more hysterical is they actully offered me gold to give up my vote, it really does not get any more ridiculous than that. They offered me 5 gold and I think any others who turned down this offer should post how much they were offered as well. Im curious as to how much money these goons are throwing around. It looks like a few people already took the gold so its obvious they are not Lannisters which once again puts Stark in a solid position. I think at this point it would be stupid for any survivors to join Lannesters because of their erratic play and reckless spending but thats just me and Im sure i dont know all the particulars that others might.

 

As to why I voted myself ? I did that so if Red got to L-1 I wanted to hammer her in a big time way. I would much rather put my efforts towards finding cult but this game has been played so bad by so many people the cult leader and his probable first recruit are dancing in the streets under the cover of the 2 houses beating each other down rather than doing what they should have done in the first place.

 

I was offered 155 for my vote. I'll keep it thanks all the same.

[Red2111]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:35 PM, Pac said:

I actually don't mind the idea of voting someone other than Red of Smash in hopes of catching the CL. I still like a lynch of Lanth.

 

but then again... if we leave Red alive and she isn't killed by the Starks tonight then the CL would be stupid NOT to convert her and get the names of her house members.

 

hmm.

 

 

i'll say it again. we knew this risk when we agreed i should truthfully reveal . we've also decided that if i start acting different in any way or appear to not have the Lannisters best interest at heart, i'm to be NKd. i'd hate to do it, but i'd hate being recruited to a cult even more. theres slim chance i'd win as cult adn i'd rather die a Lannister then be hunted as cult by both sides.

[John McClane]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:41 PM, Pac said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:40 PM, Smash said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:35 PM, Pac said:

I actually don't mind the idea of voting someone other than Red of Smash in hopes of catching the CL. I still like a lynch of Lanth.

 

but then again... if we leave Red alive and she isn't killed by the Starks tonight then the CL would be stupid NOT to convert her and get the names of her house members.

 

hmm.

 

your very smart tatoo.

 

sometimes I see more than just the plane.

 

 

LOL

[Naeann]

  On 8/18/2011 at 12:11 PM, Pac said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 3:33 AM, Barmacral said:

Ok, this is admin Barm stepping in to say everyone cool it. If this game is pissing you off, take a few hour break, chances are pretty good that nobody is going to die tonight, and we'll all be here to have fun tomorrow.

 

holy crap you're a mod?!

 

hahahaha!

 

 

Not just mod... ADMIN.. as are Doggin AND Verbal. Yeah.. I know. It's scary.

[Far Dareis Mai]

GDI I am on page 52. Can we perhaps take a time out so I can finish and contribute?

 

...

 

Asking too much???

 

>.>

[CTM]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:24 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

CTM, your plan would sound great except for that pesky little issue of Survivors having to choose a House by D3, or play solo. You also seem to be fogetting that one a vote is paid for and placed, it stays put for the day. I'm not sure that I feel real good about you right now...

well there was 1 question we could've used to vet..

 

Has that been mentioned yet or is the pirate a survivor?

 

And i don't give ashit what you feel good about

[Smash]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:41 PM, Pac said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:40 PM, Smash said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:35 PM, Pac said:

I actually don't mind the idea of voting someone other than Red of Smash in hopes of catching the CL. I still like a lynch of Lanth.

 

but then again... if we leave Red alive and she isn't killed by the Starks tonight then the CL would be stupid NOT to convert her and get the names of her house members.

 

hmm.

 

your very smart tatoo.

 

sometimes I see more than just the plane.

 

Awesome !

[CTM]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:42 PM, Red2111 said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:35 PM, Pac said:

I actually don't mind the idea of voting someone other than Red of Smash in hopes of catching the CL. I still like a lynch of Lanth.

 

but then again... if we leave Red alive and she isn't killed by the Starks tonight then the CL would be stupid NOT to convert her and get the names of her house members.

 

hmm.

 

 

i'll say it again. we knew this risk when we agreed i should truthfully reveal . we've also decided that if i start acting different in any way or appear to not have the Lannisters best interest at heart, i'm to be NKd. i'd hate to do it, but i'd hate being recruited to a cult even more. theres slim chance i'd win as cult adn i'd rather die a Lannister then be hunted as cult by both sides.

I thought the other chick said house members can't be converted?

 

The one that dropped the "our" that slats caught

[John McClane]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:42 PM, Red2111 said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:35 PM, Pac said:

I actually don't mind the idea of voting someone other than Red of Smash in hopes of catching the CL. I still like a lynch of Lanth.

 

but then again... if we leave Red alive and she isn't killed by the Starks tonight then the CL would be stupid NOT to convert her and get the names of her house members.

 

hmm.

 

 

i'll say it again. we knew this risk when we agreed i should truthfully reveal . we've also decided that if i start acting different in any way or appear to not have the Lannisters best interest at heart, i'm to be NKd. i'd hate to do it, but i'd hate being recruited to a cult even more. theres slim chance i'd win as cult adn i'd rather die a Lannister then be hunted as cult by both sides.

 

 

If any part of this statement was true, you would have let yourself be lynched - rather than spending your families money, revealing as a House member and making yourself a cult target, and essentially busting your ass to out the whole other family rather than cult. Do you even realize how badly this statement contradicts your play?

[John McClane]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:44 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:24 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

CTM, your plan would sound great except for that pesky little issue of Survivors having to choose a House by D3, or play solo. You also seem to be fogetting that one a vote is paid for and placed, it stays put for the day. I'm not sure that I feel real good about you right now...

well there was 1 question we could've used to vet..

 

Has that been mentioned yet or is the pirate a survivor?

 

And i don't give ashit what you feel good about

 

What the declare by D3 thing? Jack mentioned it on D1, DPR bringing it up doesn't vet him at all.

[Smash]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:41 PM, Naeann said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 11:32 AM, Smash said:

The only mistake I made in this game was weighing in on why 3 players survived night kills, which other players seemed to be "in the know" as to why that happened "survivors". There was no way I could have known that since no information was in my PM about it, so it basicly fingered me as either a bannerman or cult. At that point there was not much I could do but reveal, or die under suspicion of being cult.

 

I find it funny Red is throwing all this gold around just to get me lynched and from my view this is great for team Stark as the Lannisters keep wasting their gold. Whats even more hysterical is they actully offered me gold to give up my vote, it really does not get any more ridiculous than that. They offered me 5 gold and I think any others who turned down this offer should post how much they were offered as well. Im curious as to how much money these goons are throwing around. It looks like a few people already took the gold so its obvious they are not Lannisters which once again puts Stark in a solid position. I think at this point it would be stupid for any survivors to join Lannesters because of their erratic play and reckless spending but thats just me and Im sure i dont know all the particulars that others might.

 

As to why I voted myself ? I did that so if Red got to L-1 I wanted to hammer her in a big time way. I would much rather put my efforts towards finding cult but this game has been played so bad by so many people the cult leader and his probable first recruit are dancing in the streets under the cover of the 2 houses beating each other down rather than doing what they should have done in the first place.

 

I was offered 155 for my vote. I'll keep it thanks all the same.

 

Nice to know.

[Smash]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:45 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:42 PM, Red2111 said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:35 PM, Pac said:

I actually don't mind the idea of voting someone other than Red of Smash in hopes of catching the CL. I still like a lynch of Lanth.

 

but then again... if we leave Red alive and she isn't killed by the Starks tonight then the CL would be stupid NOT to convert her and get the names of her house members.

 

hmm.

 

 

i'll say it again. we knew this risk when we agreed i should truthfully reveal . we've also decided that if i start acting different in any way or appear to not have the Lannisters best interest at heart, i'm to be NKd. i'd hate to do it, but i'd hate being recruited to a cult even more. theres slim chance i'd win as cult adn i'd rather die a Lannister then be hunted as cult by both sides.

I thought the other chick said house members can't be converted?

 

The one that dropped the "our" that slats caught

 

Interesting

[Smash]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:43 PM, Naeann said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 12:11 PM, Pac said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 3:33 AM, Barmacral said:

Ok, this is admin Barm stepping in to say everyone cool it. If this game is pissing you off, take a few hour break, chances are pretty good that nobody is going to die tonight, and we'll all be here to have fun tomorrow.

 

holy crap you're a mod?!

 

hahahaha!

 

 

Not just mod... ADMIN.. as are Doggin AND Verbal. Yeah.. I know. It's scary.

 

What the hell kind of place is this !!

[Naeann]

Smash.. you asked love. :P

[slats]

I think a lot of family members have been outed today, and that they're all ripe for conversion. Smash is a lower rung guy in that respect, but it looks like the Lannisters have already bought a bunch of votes on Smash. If the Starks also bought votes, I think it's going to be difficult to get off of the two of these players. I think if I wasn't locked in, I'd be inclined to vote for Red. Jaime Lannister is an incestuous pig, but also probably a MAJOR player in the Lannister house. She's a potential problem as she is, a HUGE problem if she's converted.

 

 

[slats]

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:44 PM, CTM said:

  On 8/18/2011 at 1:24 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

CTM, your plan would sound great except for that pesky little issue of Survivors having to choose a House by D3, or play solo. You also seem to be fogetting that one a vote is paid for and placed, it stays put for the day. I'm not sure that I feel real good about you right now...

well there was 1 question we could've used to vet..

 

Has that been mentioned yet or is the pirate a survivor?

And i don't give ashit what you feel good about

 

He's been coming across as strongly Stark to me. I'm really not listening to his proposal.

[Far Dareis Mai]

  On 8/17/2011 at 11:20 PM, WWWwombat said:

My vote stands still as a Mountain. Sorry, Red.

 

Oh REEEAALLY, Clegane??

 

  On 8/17/2011 at 11:23 PM, Red2111 said:

as i stated Smash, the House members are given our bannermens real character names to begin with; this is why i know i could prove your a LLL if you claimed a bannerman in my camp and why i know the Starks will be able to call you out now if your a LLL.

 

i've not once implied or stated that bannermen join the QT's only that we known our bannermens character names from teh start (the two that start as bannermen, not those who come to our camp later)

 

 

thsi is why i chided CTM about havign to direct womby (whom i believe is a survivor turned stark bannerman) on thread instead of being able to do it on a QT.

 

Red mentions that she knows the names of her bannermen...but not the player names. Is she implying that there were Bannermen to start the game? Otherwise, she's lying, because Survivors have the option to not choose a Faction, and so it stands to reason that any of the character names could go to any Faction they chose. It doesn't make sense that it would be predetermined like that...unless I'm missing something said from page 53-60 >.>

 

 

If I had to choose between lynching a Bannerman or a House member, I'm going to choose the House, since they get to talk off thread and they get an NK. Does the Bannermen get an NK?

 

 

 

BooBoo is freaking me out. She hasn't really contributed AT ALL to moving this game forward, except to place a vote and encourage competing trains. But if you look through her last 10 posts or so, she's just trollin' people and basically picking fights. I mean, she is accusing people of having huge ego's when she 'supposedly' doesn't know any of us at all, and then sits and argues with other players over silly things instead of trying to move the game forward and contributing something worthwhile.

 

So with all that said, my vote is for Red.