[Advanced/Experimental] Game of Thrones Mafia

Hybrid · August 25, 2011

No one else wants to take credit for one of the NKs?

Kivam · August 25, 2011

Vote Count

Vic (1) - Smash

Smash (3) - Vic, CTM, Hybrid

JF80 (1) - Sakaea

Sakaea (4) - DPR, Barm, FDM, Krak

Not voting: Wombat, JF80, Dude

7 to Lynch

Vicious89x · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 8:16 PM, Smash said:

I should have been patient and not said anything right off the bat but VIC Killed the APE and it seems he does not want to confirm it. This just confirms for me that he is cult. Yesterday VIC said out of the clear blue he was going to vote me. I figured this was VIC setting a trap for me to track him that evening which I did. Then he shoots the APE and his first vote today was on me claiming I was Cult which is a load of crap. At that point I let all of you know (as I have done all game) that I tracked VIC and he Killed the APE . VIC has no reason not to confirm my findings unless he is cult.

I feel there were 3 cult left, VIC, APE(McClane) and another (not sure who)... McClane was drawing attention to himself the entire game and I would not doubt the plan was for VIC to kill him and make himself look innocent. VIC knew I would come into the thread letting you all know about the killing yet he never confirmed it. This is the work of scummy cult IMO. Im not sure McClane was worried about a lynch, I think he was worried about getting shot at night by a non cult player so it made perfect sense for VIC to Kill him .

To say Im cult after I pushed for the Slats lynch 2 days in a row including the day he was actully lynched is whats absurd here. I know Mynd was part of that reasoning but I think we can all agree Mynd played a little wacky this game.

Also you should take notice that VIC really didnt contribute to the game early on when he was probably recruited and pissed off (he hates being recruited) then he became very active after the death of slats.

Dont think for a second VIC would not try and set a trap like this for me. He likes to set traps and loves the ahhh haaa moment more than anyone.

Also if VIC was so sure I was cult Why didnt he just Kill me last night ??

Unvote CTM

Vote VIC

This is so WIFOM'licious I can't even begin to address it. First off, I cased slats early on in that day as well and voted him so I can use the same exact excuse you're using. I personally think you were a bannerman and pushed slats so hard that he converted you. Cult needs to think out Starks, not Lannisters making you the most likely target. I can't say more because honestly this is such a WIFOM it's over the top.

Secondly, dont' bring up bullcrap reasons like HEY HE'S ACTIVE NOW, because I already stated what was up last week. My parents left yesterday. Look at my activity level based on that, not only that, I finished my projects by last Friday and have been active since Monday really. I'm at work and post at work for the most part. I won't address this again as it's a crap reason and just as stupid as your "LURKING!" cases. People have lives, things get in the way. I play as actively as I can. I've shown in the past when things get in the way I have lower activity.

You have claimed to be a Stark bannerman. I'm not going to openly shoot someone and help out the cult by killing a Stark. I shot the ape because he claimed a survivor and I felt he was acting culty yesterday by trying to create trains based on the CL lynch. So I chose to shoot Ape, I'm trying to out cult here, not Lannisters or anything else.

Lastly- I dont' set traps. I think CTM could vouch for that. I play as a feel player and play on gut instincts. This is true as town OR as scum where I just go with I THINK is best. I dont' set traps and try to act creative like GOTCHA the way Ape plays. Ape is the guy who sets traps and claims to do so. Yes I shot at the ape.

My only question to you is how are you so sure cult can kill? What in the previous days leads you to believe cult can kill?

Hybrid · August 25, 2011

Sakaea claims to still be a survivor. Why didn't she pledge a faction? And her vote on JF80 is a little out of the blue. She had CTM as cult and Wombat/Dude as possible cult back on D4, post 2141.

Smash once again comes up with a case that makes absolutely no sense.

Sakaea, Krak -- either of you want to take credit for Adella?

Krakalakachkn · August 25, 2011

I have nary laid a finger in naught but pleasure

the dude · August 25, 2011

*strolls in and languidly sits at a table. elaborately lights a cigarette*

hey there, kids, how's it going? what a fine, wonderful, beautiful day, don't you think? the peace, the quiet... just, nice, y'know?

sorry about the silence, i was at some extremely boring off-site meetings all day and i'm just caught up.

i'm feelin' pretty good about invoking the cromwell approval just about now. you guys reminded me what was so fun about it back in the day; thanks for the love :smile: i know it was unconventional to throw down during the night phase but i had my reasons - i didn't want anyone messing with my kill, and a daytime invocation was risky - if i picked the wrong target and old hand dm'ers jumped on the bandwagon and ended up wasting a survivor, i'd have been toast. and given that i'm generally not inclined to analytical cases, my track record is, while pretty good, not perfect. it was a bit risky and i hope the gracious mod will forgive me for cheaping out a bit. :cool:

so yeah, i killed ape last night. vic could have taken a shot at him too, there's nothing saying 2 people can't attack someone on the same night, but that mushy pile of bone and brain loosely attached to mcclane's neck? yeah, that was me. i didn't bother searching for other wounds =P

since we're getting to a point where sharing info might be useful, let me lay out how my role works for ya. i'm a stark bannerman with a nightkilling ability. the problem is that i don't know who the starks are to begin with, and if i target one with a nightkill, we BOTH die. it's been a big part of the reason for my fumbling over the game - i've honestly just been trying to kill mcclane most every night, except for night...... 3? i think? when i tried to kill mynd, and it didn't work. please don't hold me to the timing just now as i could be wrong. i will do a re-read now that the posts should be back to manageable level, but it's a lot of material to cover and i'll be pretty busy for the next RL day or 2 so please bear with me.

while i'm being upfront with you guys, i wasn't totally sure mcclane was cult - it was a likely possibility as we've mostly observed, but i can't lie to you guys, i did it mostly to just get a bit of sanity restored here. hope guys'll forgive me?

Smash · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 9:17 PM, Vicious89x said:

On 8/25/2011 at 8:16 PM, Smash said:

I should have been patient and not said anything right off the bat but VIC Killed the APE and it seems he does not want to confirm it. This just confirms for me that he is cult. Yesterday VIC said out of the clear blue he was going to vote me. I figured this was VIC setting a trap for me to track him that evening which I did. Then he shoots the APE and his first vote today was on me claiming I was Cult which is a load of crap. At that point I let all of you know (as I have done all game) that I tracked VIC and he Killed the APE . VIC has no reason not to confirm my findings unless he is cult.

I feel there were 3 cult left, VIC, APE(McClane) and another (not sure who)... McClane was drawing attention to himself the entire game and I would not doubt the plan was for VIC to kill him and make himself look innocent. VIC knew I would come into the thread letting you all know about the killing yet he never confirmed it. This is the work of scummy cult IMO. Im not sure McClane was worried about a lynch, I think he was worried about getting shot at night by a non cult player so it made perfect sense for VIC to Kill him .

To say Im cult after I pushed for the Slats lynch 2 days in a row including the day he was actully lynched is whats absurd here. I know Mynd was part of that reasoning but I think we can all agree Mynd played a little wacky this game.

Also you should take notice that VIC really didnt contribute to the game early on when he was probably recruited and pissed off (he hates being recruited) then he became very active after the death of slats.

Dont think for a second VIC would not try and set a trap like this for me. He likes to set traps and loves the ahhh haaa moment more than anyone.

Also if VIC was so sure I was cult Why didnt he just Kill me last night ??

Unvote CTM

Vote VIC

This is so WIFOM'licious I can't even begin to address it. First off, I cased slats early on in that day as well and voted him so I can use the same exact excuse you're using. I personally think you were a bannerman and pushed slats so hard that he converted you. Cult needs to think out Starks, not Lannisters making you the most likely target. I can't say more because honestly this is such a WIFOM it's over the top.

Secondly, dont' bring up bullcrap reasons like HEY HE'S ACTIVE NOW, because I already stated what was up last week. My parents left yesterday. Look at my activity level based on that, not only that, I finished my projects by last Friday and have been active since Monday really. I'm at work and post at work for the most part. I won't address this again as it's a crap reason and just as stupid as your "LURKING!" cases. People have lives, things get in the way. I play as actively as I can. I've shown in the past when things get in the way I have lower activity.

You have claimed to be a Stark bannerman. I'm not going to openly shoot someone and help out the cult by killing a Stark. I shot the ape because he claimed a survivor and I felt he was acting culty yesterday by trying to create trains based on the CL lynch. So I chose to shoot Ape, I'm trying to out cult here, not Lannisters or anything else.

Lastly- I dont' set traps. I think CTM could vouch for that. I play as a feel player and play on gut instincts. This is true as town OR as scum where I just go with I THINK is best. I dont' set traps and try to act creative like GOTCHA the way Ape plays. Ape is the guy who sets traps and claims to do so. Yes I shot at the ape.

My only question to you is how are you so sure cult can kill? What in the previous days leads you to believe cult can kill?

This whole post is crap. You do set traps, and your the one mentioning real life issues here I did NOT use that in my arguement.

Im not sure about anything cult ... I find it really funny you still have not confirmed your kill on the APE

Vicious89x · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 9:56 PM, Smash said:

On 8/25/2011 at 9:17 PM, Vicious89x said:

On 8/25/2011 at 8:16 PM, Smash said:

I should have been patient and not said anything right off the bat but VIC Killed the APE and it seems he does not want to confirm it. This just confirms for me that he is cult. Yesterday VIC said out of the clear blue he was going to vote me. I figured this was VIC setting a trap for me to track him that evening which I did. Then he shoots the APE and his first vote today was on me claiming I was Cult which is a load of crap. At that point I let all of you know (as I have done all game) that I tracked VIC and he Killed the APE . VIC has no reason not to confirm my findings unless he is cult.

I feel there were 3 cult left, VIC, APE(McClane) and another (not sure who)... McClane was drawing attention to himself the entire game and I would not doubt the plan was for VIC to kill him and make himself look innocent. VIC knew I would come into the thread letting you all know about the killing yet he never confirmed it. This is the work of scummy cult IMO. Im not sure McClane was worried about a lynch, I think he was worried about getting shot at night by a non cult player so it made perfect sense for VIC to Kill him .

To say Im cult after I pushed for the Slats lynch 2 days in a row including the day he was actully lynched is whats absurd here. I know Mynd was part of that reasoning but I think we can all agree Mynd played a little wacky this game.

Also you should take notice that VIC really didnt contribute to the game early on when he was probably recruited and pissed off (he hates being recruited) then he became very active after the death of slats.

Dont think for a second VIC would not try and set a trap like this for me. He likes to set traps and loves the ahhh haaa moment more than anyone.

Also if VIC was so sure I was cult Why didnt he just Kill me last night ??

Unvote CTM

Vote VIC

This is so WIFOM'licious I can't even begin to address it. First off, I cased slats early on in that day as well and voted him so I can use the same exact excuse you're using. I personally think you were a bannerman and pushed slats so hard that he converted you. Cult needs to think out Starks, not Lannisters making you the most likely target. I can't say more because honestly this is such a WIFOM it's over the top.

Secondly, dont' bring up bullcrap reasons like HEY HE'S ACTIVE NOW, because I already stated what was up last week. My parents left yesterday. Look at my activity level based on that, not only that, I finished my projects by last Friday and have been active since Monday really. I'm at work and post at work for the most part. I won't address this again as it's a crap reason and just as stupid as your "LURKING!" cases. People have lives, things get in the way. I play as actively as I can. I've shown in the past when things get in the way I have lower activity.

You have claimed to be a Stark bannerman. I'm not going to openly shoot someone and help out the cult by killing a Stark. I shot the ape because he claimed a survivor and I felt he was acting culty yesterday by trying to create trains based on the CL lynch. So I chose to shoot Ape, I'm trying to out cult here, not Lannisters or anything else.

Lastly- I dont' set traps. I think CTM could vouch for that. I play as a feel player and play on gut instincts. This is true as town OR as scum where I just go with I THINK is best. I dont' set traps and try to act creative like GOTCHA the way Ape plays. Ape is the guy who sets traps and claims to do so. Yes I shot at the ape.

My only question to you is how are you so sure cult can kill? What in the previous days leads you to believe cult can kill?

This whole post is crap. You do set traps, and your the one mentioning real life issues here I did NOT use that in my arguement.

Im not sure about anything cult ... I find it really funny you still have not confirmed your kill on the APE

Lol. I guess you skimmed the crap out of my post then.

Krakalakachkn · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 9:56 PM, Smash said:

Im not sure about anything cult ... I find it really funny you still have not confirmed your kill on the APE

Did you miss thedude's post?

Smash · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 9:55 PM, the dude said:

*strolls in and languidly sits at a table. elaborately lights a cigarette*

hey there, kids, how's it going? what a fine, wonderful, beautiful day, don't you think? the peace, the quiet... just, nice, y'know?

sorry about the silence, i was at some extremely boring off-site meetings all day and i'm just caught up.

i'm feelin' pretty good about invoking the cromwell approval just about now. you guys reminded me what was so fun about it back in the day; thanks for the love i know it was unconventional to throw down during the night phase but i had my reasons - i didn't want anyone messing with my kill, and a daytime invocation was risky - if i picked the wrong target and old hand dm'ers jumped on the bandwagon and ended up wasting a survivor, i'd have been toast. and given that i'm generally not inclined to analytical cases, my track record is, while pretty good, not perfect. it was a bit risky and i hope the gracious mod will forgive me for cheaping out a bit.

so yeah, i killed ape last night. vic could have taken a shot at him too, there's nothing saying 2 people can't attack someone on the same night, but that mushy pile of bone and brain loosely attached to mcclane's neck? yeah, that was me. i didn't bother searching for other wounds =P

since we're getting to a point where sharing info might be useful, let me lay out how my role works for ya. i'm a stark bannerman with a nightkilling ability. the problem is that i don't know who the starks are to begin with, and if i target one with a nightkill, we BOTH die. it's been a big part of the reason for my fumbling over the game - i've honestly just been trying to kill mcclane most every night, except for night...... 3? i think? when i tried to kill mynd, and it didn't work. please don't hold me to the timing just now as i could be wrong. i will do a re-read now that the posts should be back to manageable level, but it's a lot of material to cover and i'll be pretty busy for the next RL day or 2 so please bear with me.

while i'm being upfront with you guys, i wasn't totally sure mcclane was cult - it was a likely possibility as we've mostly observed, but i can't lie to you guys, i did it mostly to just get a bit of sanity restored here. hope guys'll forgive me?

so you killed the ape ? All I know to be 100 % correct is that Vic visited the Ape last night. But if your claiming you did as well its possible you both shot him

Smash · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 9:56 PM, Smash said:

On 8/25/2011 at 9:17 PM, Vicious89x said:

On 8/25/2011 at 8:16 PM, Smash said:

I should have been patient and not said anything right off the bat but VIC Killed the APE and it seems he does not want to confirm it. This just confirms for me that he is cult. Yesterday VIC said out of the clear blue he was going to vote me. I figured this was VIC setting a trap for me to track him that evening which I did. Then he shoots the APE and his first vote today was on me claiming I was Cult which is a load of crap. At that point I let all of you know (as I have done all game) that I tracked VIC and he Killed the APE . VIC has no reason not to confirm my findings unless he is cult.

I feel there were 3 cult left, VIC, APE(McClane) and another (not sure who)... McClane was drawing attention to himself the entire game and I would not doubt the plan was for VIC to kill him and make himself look innocent. VIC knew I would come into the thread letting you all know about the killing yet he never confirmed it. This is the work of scummy cult IMO. Im not sure McClane was worried about a lynch, I think he was worried about getting shot at night by a non cult player so it made perfect sense for VIC to Kill him .

To say Im cult after I pushed for the Slats lynch 2 days in a row including the day he was actully lynched is whats absurd here. I know Mynd was part of that reasoning but I think we can all agree Mynd played a little wacky this game.

Also you should take notice that VIC really didnt contribute to the game early on when he was probably recruited and pissed off (he hates being recruited) then he became very active after the death of slats.

Dont think for a second VIC would not try and set a trap like this for me. He likes to set traps and loves the ahhh haaa moment more than anyone.

Also if VIC was so sure I was cult Why didnt he just Kill me last night ??

Unvote CTM

Vote VIC

This is so WIFOM'licious I can't even begin to address it. First off, I cased slats early on in that day as well and voted him so I can use the same exact excuse you're using. I personally think you were a bannerman and pushed slats so hard that he converted you. Cult needs to think out Starks, not Lannisters making you the most likely target. I can't say more because honestly this is such a WIFOM it's over the top.

Secondly, dont' bring up bullcrap reasons like HEY HE'S ACTIVE NOW, because I already stated what was up last week. My parents left yesterday. Look at my activity level based on that, not only that, I finished my projects by last Friday and have been active since Monday really. I'm at work and post at work for the most part. I won't address this again as it's a crap reason and just as stupid as your "LURKING!" cases. People have lives, things get in the way. I play as actively as I can. I've shown in the past when things get in the way I have lower activity.

You have claimed to be a Stark bannerman. I'm not going to openly shoot someone and help out the cult by killing a Stark. I shot the ape because he claimed a survivor and I felt he was acting culty yesterday by trying to create trains based on the CL lynch. So I chose to shoot Ape, I'm trying to out cult here, not Lannisters or anything else.

Lastly- I dont' set traps. I think CTM could vouch for that. I play as a feel player and play on gut instincts. This is true as town OR as scum where I just go with I THINK is best. I dont' set traps and try to act creative like GOTCHA the way Ape plays. Ape is the guy who sets traps and claims to do so. Yes I shot at the ape.

My only question to you is how are you so sure cult can kill? What in the previous days leads you to believe cult can kill?

This whole post is crap. You do set traps, and your the one mentioning real life issues here I did NOT use that in my arguement.

Im not sure about anything cult ... I find it really funny you still have not confirmed your kill on the APE

Disregard this post please my mistake

Krakalakachkn · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 10:00 PM, Smash said:

On 8/25/2011 at 9:55 PM, the dude said:

*strolls in and languidly sits at a table. elaborately lights a cigarette*

hey there, kids, how's it going? what a fine, wonderful, beautiful day, don't you think? the peace, the quiet... just, nice, y'know?

sorry about the silence, i was at some extremely boring off-site meetings all day and i'm just caught up.

i'm feelin' pretty good about invoking the cromwell approval just about now. you guys reminded me what was so fun about it back in the day; thanks for the love i know it was unconventional to throw down during the night phase but i had my reasons - i didn't want anyone messing with my kill, and a daytime invocation was risky - if i picked the wrong target and old hand dm'ers jumped on the bandwagon and ended up wasting a survivor, i'd have been toast. and given that i'm generally not inclined to analytical cases, my track record is, while pretty good, not perfect. it was a bit risky and i hope the gracious mod will forgive me for cheaping out a bit.

so yeah, i killed ape last night. vic could have taken a shot at him too, there's nothing saying 2 people can't attack someone on the same night, but that mushy pile of bone and brain loosely attached to mcclane's neck? yeah, that was me. i didn't bother searching for other wounds =P

since we're getting to a point where sharing info might be useful, let me lay out how my role works for ya. i'm a stark bannerman with a nightkilling ability. the problem is that i don't know who the starks are to begin with, and if i target one with a nightkill, we BOTH die. it's been a big part of the reason for my fumbling over the game - i've honestly just been trying to kill mcclane most every night, except for night...... 3? i think? when i tried to kill mynd, and it didn't work. please don't hold me to the timing just now as i could be wrong. i will do a re-read now that the posts should be back to manageable level, but it's a lot of material to cover and i'll be pretty busy for the next RL day or 2 so please bear with me.

while i'm being upfront with you guys, i wasn't totally sure mcclane was cult - it was a likely possibility as we've mostly observed, but i can't lie to you guys, i did it mostly to just get a bit of sanity restored here. hope guys'll forgive me?

so you killed the ape ? All I know to be 100 % correct is that Vic visited the Ape last night. But if your claiming you did as well its possible you both shot him

Here's a question...how would it looks to a tracker if he visits another tracker who is visiting someone? So tracker A follows tracker B who looked at Ape last night. Would it work like that? Would tracker A see that tracker B visited Ape?

Smash · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 9:59 PM, Krakalakachkn said:

On 8/25/2011 at 9:56 PM, Smash said:

Im not sure about anything cult ... I find it really funny you still have not confirmed your kill on the APE

Did you miss thedude's post?

Yes I also missed Vic saying he shot the APE so disrgard my last post please

the dude · August 25, 2011

hey, smash. yup, i nailed 'im. your tracking supports vic's kill claim, but i boil it down to 2 possibilities:

1) vic's on the level and did kill the ape also. i'm gonna pop back and read kivam's scene again to see if there's anything in the flavor text. but this is a fairly valid possibility and the simplest and hence most likely.

2) vic's a cultist converter and converted ape last night just before i brained 'im. just because it's a more faceted possibility i shade it as slightly less likely, but not impossible.

we should think this one through because it's fairly crucial. if he's on the level, fine. we just need to watch him from here on out for behavior changes if he's converted later. if he's a cultist well then our course is clear. but we're getting lower on players and it's a tough sell to just kill him to find out; i don't recommend it without some good supporting info. i'm not laying a vote down just yet because i wanna think about this some. i'll be back in a bit.

the dude · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 10:02 PM, Krakalakachkn said:

Here's a question...how would it looks to a tracker if he visits another tracker who is visiting someone? So tracker A follows tracker B who looked at Ape last night. Would it work like that? Would tracker A see that tracker B visited Ape?

i guess we can't discount this but it's a bit elaborate. as i reason your suggestion out, it would contradict vic's kill claim, and would probably make him a Lannister tracker; does that make sense to anyone else? like, vic, a lannister in this theory, tracks ape because he's still trying to hunt out cult. so smash follows him, giving him his result on vic. meanwhile i'm killing the heck out of mcclane. come moring, i wasn't around to make any claims till just recently. vic decides to claim the kill as his own and accomplish..... and there's the wall. i don't know what he'd be trying to accomplish with that move. it lowers the likelihood in my mind. i guess it's not totally impossible but it's the least likely scenario i can see right now.

DPR · August 25, 2011

Unvote for now.

Hybrid · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 10:08 PM, the dude said:

1) vic's on the level and did kill the ape also. i'm gonna pop back and read kivam's scene again to see if there's anything in the flavor text. but this is a fairly valid possibility and the simplest and hence most likely.

2) vic's a cultist converter and converted ape last night just before i brained 'im. just because it's a more faceted possibility i shade it as slightly less likely, but not impossible.

3) Vic successfully stole from McClane last Day. Never mind that, Vic didn't post at all that day.

4) Vic and Smash are both cult, and this is a ploy to vet Vic.

the dude · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 12:48 PM, Barmacral said:

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the cromwell approval. This is pretty much the epitome of the Dude's hunches. Approximately once per game he plays he whips out the cromwell approval and selects a player that he thinks is scum, a hunch that, while having been wrong from time to time, is usually correct. Generally any time he ever did this everyone would vote his way.

Kivam's doubleblind was the first time we ever used alt accounts, so you didn't know who was who. I got the finder role in it, but was not allowed to reveal in any way that I was the finder, so I used the cromwell approval that game and got scum lynched once I found some scum. The Dude fought me tooth and nail the entire way and got me killed as a result.

And there you have it, the cromwell approval. Possibly the greatest thing to ever happen to these mafia games.

while i'm on this page; aww shucks barm, i love you too =D i remember that move you pulled. it was arguably cooler than any time i used it myself. i was so convinced you were pulling crap and ended up getting you killed, and we were on the same team hahaha! but credit where it's due, that move of yours was like 8 kinds of awesome.

k, back to business:

On 8/25/2011 at 1:52 PM, Kivam said:
Maybe it was the viciousness of the attacks. Maybe it was their frequency. Maybe it was that the killers were just getting tired of being fought off.

killers. i think this supports vic's claim and we should take him at his word, assuming no one else took a shot at mcclane last night too?

Hybrid · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 10:19 PM, the dude said:

On 8/25/2011 at 1:52 PM, Kivam said:
Maybe it was the viciousness of the attacks. Maybe it was their frequency. Maybe it was that the killers were just getting tired of being fought off.

killers. i think this supports vic's claim and we should take him at his word, assuming no one else took a shot at mcclane last night too?

Well, three people were killed, so I'm a bit leery of reading into that.

the dude · August 25, 2011

that's fair, hybrid. i was reading it in the context of my string of pm's to kivam that by last night phase had boiled down to "holy sweet mother of all that is good how many damn vests does this guy HAVE? i've thrown down the cromwell approval, it HAS to work!!!!!"

but you make a valid point. i'm still kind of leaning towards believing vic until something more concrete pops up, though.

Kivam · August 25, 2011

Note - my flavor scenes contain no hexane information other than the number of failed kill attempts

Smash · August 25, 2011

Ok now that I have a few minutes to actully pay attention. Sorry about my last few posts I got distracted and skimmed.

Vic why did you wait for me to push you to reveal that you shot at the APE ? I would think as soon as I mentioned I tracked you on the APE you would have acknowledged it.

Smash · August 25, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 9:58 PM, Vicious89x said:

On 8/25/2011 at 9:56 PM, Smash said:

On 8/25/2011 at 9:17 PM, Vicious89x said:

On 8/25/2011 at 8:16 PM, Smash said:

I should have been patient and not said anything right off the bat but VIC Killed the APE and it seems he does not want to confirm it. This just confirms for me that he is cult. Yesterday VIC said out of the clear blue he was going to vote me. I figured this was VIC setting a trap for me to track him that evening which I did. Then he shoots the APE and his first vote today was on me claiming I was Cult which is a load of crap. At that point I let all of you know (as I have done all game) that I tracked VIC and he Killed the APE . VIC has no reason not to confirm my findings unless he is cult.

I feel there were 3 cult left, VIC, APE(McClane) and another (not sure who)... McClane was drawing attention to himself the entire game and I would not doubt the plan was for VIC to kill him and make himself look innocent. VIC knew I would come into the thread letting you all know about the killing yet he never confirmed it. This is the work of scummy cult IMO. Im not sure McClane was worried about a lynch, I think he was worried about getting shot at night by a non cult player so it made perfect sense for VIC to Kill him .

To say Im cult after I pushed for the Slats lynch 2 days in a row including the day he was actully lynched is whats absurd here. I know Mynd was part of that reasoning but I think we can all agree Mynd played a little wacky this game.

Also you should take notice that VIC really didnt contribute to the game early on when he was probably recruited and pissed off (he hates being recruited) then he became very active after the death of slats.

Dont think for a second VIC would not try and set a trap like this for me. He likes to set traps and loves the ahhh haaa moment more than anyone.

Also if VIC was so sure I was cult Why didnt he just Kill me last night ??

Unvote CTM

Vote VIC

This is so WIFOM'licious I can't even begin to address it. First off, I cased slats early on in that day as well and voted him so I can use the same exact excuse you're using. I personally think you were a bannerman and pushed slats so hard that he converted you. Cult needs to think out Starks, not Lannisters making you the most likely target. I can't say more because honestly this is such a WIFOM it's over the top.

Secondly, dont' bring up bullcrap reasons like HEY HE'S ACTIVE NOW, because I already stated what was up last week. My parents left yesterday. Look at my activity level based on that, not only that, I finished my projects by last Friday and have been active since Monday really. I'm at work and post at work for the most part. I won't address this again as it's a crap reason and just as stupid as your "LURKING!" cases. People have lives, things get in the way. I play as actively as I can. I've shown in the past when things get in the way I have lower activity.

You have claimed to be a Stark bannerman. I'm not going to openly shoot someone and help out the cult by killing a Stark. I shot the ape because he claimed a survivor and I felt he was acting culty yesterday by trying to create trains based on the CL lynch. So I chose to shoot Ape, I'm trying to out cult here, not Lannisters or anything else.

Lastly- I dont' set traps. I think CTM could vouch for that. I play as a feel player and play on gut instincts. This is true as town OR as scum where I just go with I THINK is best. I dont' set traps and try to act creative like GOTCHA the way Ape plays. Ape is the guy who sets traps and claims to do so. Yes I shot at the ape.

My only question to you is how are you so sure cult can kill? What in the previous days leads you to believe cult can kill?

This whole post is crap. You do set traps, and your the one mentioning real life issues here I did NOT use that in my arguement.

Im not sure about anything cult ... I find it really funny you still have not confirmed your kill on the APE

Lol. I guess you skimmed the crap out of my post then.

VIC as you probably have seen in my other posts i got distracted and completely missed you saying you killed the ape .

Sakaea · August 26, 2011

On 8/25/2011 at 9:29 PM, Hybrid said:

Sakaea claims to still be a survivor. Why didn't she pledge a faction? And her vote on JF80 is a little out of the blue. She had CTM as cult and Wombat/Dude as possible cult back on D4, post 2141.

Smash once again comes up with a case that makes absolutely no sense.

Sakaea, Krak -- either of you want to take credit for Adella?

I didn't pledge a faction because a: I thought being a survivor was more in keeping with my character (a whore), and b: if I had been going to pledge, I logged on too late that day to pm Kiv, he'd already posted the start of Day 4.

I voted 80 for his inactivity. I still think CTM/Womby/Dude are possible cultists, but the inactives are bugging me. Unless I missed it, 80 still hasn't said anything today. Adella is gone, and Krak popped in, hopped on my bandwagon, subtly defended CTM, and left again.

And I didn't kill anyone, either.

CTM · August 26, 2011

two people taking credit for an ape kill... hmm do not like on the surface..

so who shot verbal? The starks? I kind of thought the dude did (bravor btw, kill him to restore sanity is pro)

And now wwwormbat has gone missing...

i gotta say, vic going there to convert him as the dude shot him is kinda making sense to me..

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