[BASIC] Star Wars Mafia GAME OVER!!!

[Nolder]

I quoted it and it was ignored.

 

I didn't ignore it Nolder, I addressed it and gave my explanation.

quote or link to the post you're referring to please

 

Well since Red and you both agree, it must be more on the qt because she called you out earlier and said she will switch to you if I'm not gunna get lynched today. Just saying.

huh? agree about what?

I don't understand what you're saying

[Sedai]

I'm not quoting it. I'm on my phone and I have no interest in quoting it. BG saw it and agreed with me.

 

You just posted and said you an Red agreed.

[bgrishinko]

@kate

 

Ok, that's fair. It probably wasn't the best looking reaction at the time. But that's the way the cookie crumbles. It was that both Jack and Christine jumped on me about it. Anyway...

 

@nolder

 

I don't think he's purposefully feeding misinformation since he said to check it. I just think he remembered wrong and didn't bother to check.... that being said, I looked through the wiki history and couldn't find a reference to miller/mason combo. In fact, on Google this thread is one of the top search results interestingly enough. So there is that.

[Sedai]

Not a miller mason combo. Either a miller group or a mason group. It's very rarely a miller and mass on the same team.

 

How I remember it

 

Mason: a group of townies that can talk off thread

Miller: a group of townies that can talk off thread but view as mafia

 

I've never saw a game where it's just a miller with no off thread communication. But again, whatever.

[bgrishinko]

I'm not quoting it. I'm on my phone and I have no interest in quoting it. BG saw it and agreed with me.

 

You just posted and said you an Red agreed.

 

I had just heard of similar roles... mainly neighbor types which are similar to masons. So it didn't seem too far fetched.

[Nolder]

I'm not quoting it. I'm on my phone and I have no interest in quoting it. BG saw it and agreed with me.

I'm claiming you ignored me/red, you're saying you didn't, I'm asking you to show me proof

if you have no interest in defending yourself from an accusation you could easily disprove (assuming you're telling the truth and you did in fact address one of us) that's fine I guess

your choice

maybe BG who saw it and agreed will oblige to quote it for you

 

You just posted and said you an Red agreed.

we agreed that the Miller thing was important yeah

it wasn't exactly a spoken agreement

we were both separately asking you to show us where you were getting your definition of Miller

but I still don't understand what us "agreeing" has to do with anything

I feel like I'm missing something here...

[Adella]

I am on the way home from being out of town. Keeping up with this on mobile is near impossible so I'll read and post a vote when I get home this evening.

 

I am assuming that because the vigilante was night killed that their kill didn't go through? I've never played with a vigilante role before. In any case, another bad loss for Town. :(

Sometimes the Vig only gets one kill (a lot of the time) so either their kill didn't go through because they were killed, or they chose not to use it. Most mods will take actions in order in which they were turned in, so if they did try to kill, it wasn't before they died.

Btw, the whole "Boba wasn't mafia, so any bad guy could be good!" argument is sucky. Boba was NEVEr aligned with the Empire, who are essentially the "bad guys". He was a freelancer, and I'm surprised he wasn't a solo-win. But then again this is a basic game, so we probably can't have solo-winners. Thus vig.

 

Unvote and vote BG

can you provide a reason? or at least cite some reasoning that has already been stated (like I did)

 

it makes it easier to keep track of who voted who and why

Dude, we have had to ask you EVERY time you voted, this is pinging the hell out of my scumdar, almost EVERY player aside from day 1 jokes and blatant bandwagons will explain their vote.

 

They can kill someone during the night, but they are not Mafia.

 

 

I am gonna go with a BG vote given the whole scumminess of him vs hoof.

 

Me vs. Hoof.

 

I don't think so. I didn't want to vote Hoof. Seems like a slip to me.

 

Vote Christine.

 

By the way all, I am R2-D2. *Bleep Bloop*

Slip how? That was a perfectly reasonable way to state the "you and Hoof situation". Btw, just because hoof was town, it doesn't say anything about your alignment. Mafia knows who ALL the townies are, meaning you will always know when to say you "don't want" to lynch someone. This never clears you dude.

 

UNVOTE and vote Adella I've said my reasons

Lol, you have a very one-track mind.

 

I think we should all character claim. We don't have a finder or a vig. It seems Sakea has just used main characters so we can't pretty much be hurt by character claims at this point. After all, the mafia know who is mafia and who is town.

 

I'm Luke Skywalker. If you don't want to reveal, then that's fine, but I think this is the best course of actions ATM.

Some people are trying to pin this on someone who felt that they needed to reveal in order to not get lynched (which btw is how we would have stopped from lynching the COP, so I can see his caution) BG I think... But this is ALL you bro. You were the only one who even considered this, and then you started it so no townie felt safe not to reveal.

 

I second my Vote against Nolder on account he won't reveal his character.

He has a lot more stuff going against him than that, but it's very icky that you started forcing people to reveal too.

 

before ya'll bandwagon and drop a hammer on me consider this

have I been playing like mafia?

look past these claims, anyone can fake a claim

look at people's behavior

 

also a smart mod will throw wrenches into the game to stop a massclaim from having an effect

otherwise we could all just claim and kill the "bad guys"

notice that Boba Fett was a townie

in the movies he's aligned with the empire until his death

but even if you want to claim he's really just a mercenary/bounty hunter and was actually just temporarily working for Jabba that would still imply a third party

and yet he won with town

 

don't lynch me just because I was honest please that's all I ask

judge me on what I've done not my rolename

...Boba was a freelance killer, who worked for Jabba, and then got paid more by the empire.. But over-all, no, he worked for Jabba. Stop trying to play off of people's lack of knowledge from the movies. And no, you have not been acting super town.

 

UNVOTE and vote Nolder

 

This is a basic gam Nolder

You are all over the place man! If you think I'm sooo suspicious, why don't you even pause to ask about people before just jumping on them? It seems to me like you just wanted to be the first to call him out on it. I too am sensing a gambit.

 

The only person I could image Vader being a miller with is Luke or Leia... so... just saying.

Uh, no, Vader would be with the Emperor or Padme... MAYBE Obi Wan, from the first 3 movies, but I'm not really sure which movies we are supposed to be playing with.

 

You are assuming that i believe your claim Jack? I have played way too many games with you to trust your reveals.

True fact! Ama & my first game is a great example.

 

I'm not fake claiming. I am the Healer.

 

I'm a little miffed that you think i could not fake claim better than that if i chose to, which i wouldn't.

Ugh, Ama, I am getting a bad feeling about you from this point on. The whole "which of these does not belong?" term is very valid here... I don't like when I get bad feelings about you, because I know we play SO similar. Got my eye on you sis.

 

I'm not fake claiming. I am the Healer.

 

I'm a little miffed that you think i could not fake claim better than that if i chose to, which i wouldn't.

better?

sorry I think you're mistaken

I personally thought it was very clever

 

however you do have to admit that "one of these things is not like the others"

 

you are not claiming a main character and that makes you stand out

This is the best defense of people with a rep, but that is also something I could see experienced players hiding behind. And yes, your role doesn't belong.

 

*shrugs* I don't lie in mafia - if i state something outright then it's true. But you will learn that in time, playing in games with me.

how can you play mafia and not lie?

it...kind of ruins the game when you do that

because then people can just ask you at the beginning of the game if you're mafia or not and then you're either lynched or are a confirmed townie

either way you'd be breaking the game

kind of unfair...

 

that's assuming you're telling the truth right now anyway

has anyone played with Amadine enough to remember a game which she lied in?

Ptsh, the only person I know to have never lied in mafia is Al Jenn, and that is why I always get him lynched!

 

Morning all! :D How was your weekends? Mine was left lacking sorely.

 

Anyway, Ama, you are scum and you leaped onto an opportunity to role claim with this reveal. I am Lando Calrisien. I don't like calling out a character reveal either. For that reason I was originally going to go for Jack. When we go for Ama I would like to hear a re-reasoning of why he would call it out. This is a basic mafia game. Of course characters are going to represent there roles. Too, it was foolish. Scum lie. It's what scum is supposed to do. If two claimed the same character who would you try to claim is scum and town? It is a foolish waste of time.

And this is what would have pushed me over the edge for Ama, if I wasn't so confused about why LANDO would know who was or wasn't the healer...

 

Does the fact that you are Darth Vader make you mafia? It could just be because this is my first game, but why would the mod make the all the "good guys" good and the "bad guys" bad. I find your assumption of that (as your reasoning for claiming to be a Miller) to be faulty. I am no Star Wars guru, though I have seen the films, and I thought Boba Fett was "bad." Yet, here, Boba Fett was aligned with the Town.

 

I know it wasn't your idea to claim, but your hesitation to do so is suspicious. You and Ama have now both tried to turn attention on Jack for starting the mass claiming. That, too, is very suspicious.

 

Thus, you and Ama are both top of my list for being mafia.

Yes, generally the baddie characters are the baddie roles. I have only seen in different in themed (read: more complex) games.

 

Kate i am fairly certain is town, but you should look at Nolder for scum as well, Darth as a townie is strange and a Miller claim to boot.

 

Are you saying I should look to Nolder? That is who my vote is currently on for being mafia.

 

I don't understand why Darth being a townie is strange, though... unless that really is how you guys play it here. Do the mods normally align "characters" like that -- bad is bad and good is good?

Kate, your questioning of this is really pinging me. I know you're new, but I'm still not totally buying it.

 

This is a basic game, by rights there should not be a roleblocker in the game.

is there some list of roles that are and aren't in basic games?

you guys seem to have this idea of what is and isn't ok

to my understanding any well known and commonly used role can be in a basic game

 

what can't be in a basic game is alterations on those roles

 

but maybe I misunderstood

 

roleblocker is the most common mafia power role

it's often the only power role they have aside from much more complicated roles like a bus driver which I doubt will make an appearance in this game

No. Godfather is the most common power mafia role. Roleblocker is about as common as PR giver. In a basic game, there should only be one mafia member with a power, and there is NO way for us to tell what it was until we get the coroners report.

 

At this time a mass claim was a win win for the town. Out of all the possible players we are left with a list of 4 that could be mafia. In a game this size usually it's a scum team of three. So only one of the four is innocent. I think AMA is, but Nolder is the safe lynch at this time. Because Adella hasn't claimed, Mill says he knows AMA is lying, AMA claimed healer.

I feel like you were backpedaling at this point, and you continued to do so on other things after this point, I'm not the only one who has noticed.

 

Still waiting to hear from Adella.

 

Also still waiting to hear from Red.

 

Their lack of a claim is somewhat suspicious, but my vote is going to remain with Nolder for now.

Again with Jack's focus on me, really, if I'm not giving any info, there would be MORE THAN ONE baddie out there to hunt down. Too bad I'm just not one of them.

 

 

Okie, after conferring with my local Star Wars geek (the boyfriend) I am gonna Vote Nolder. I can't remember how far into SW our mod is, but according to my information (he is amused at being called that now), Vader was pure sith. Anakin was the good part, so if someone were to be the good side of Vader, they wouldn't be CALLED Vader. When Vader died he was Anakin, because he turned his back on the dark side. So, Nol, because you are VADER, not ANAKIN, that tells me you are evil. Simple as that. Plus, you have been acting super scummy and trying to clear yourself off of stuff that does nothing to clear you. You yourself said, go off your actions, not just your role

 

Behind Nol, I think Ama is scum. Yes, you could be a medical droid, but that doesn't mean you are good. The droid that tortured Leia in Episode IV was technically a medical droid, and we have had a hint at a counter claim. While I don't want to smoke out the true healer, I do want to hear more from Millon. But I feel best about lynching Nolder and then you.

[Sedai]

Adella I explained my reasoning a post or two before that. I didnt see the need for redundancy. I haven't back pedaled. That was an explanation for people who thought it was scummy. You should know the difference.

[Adella]

Am I the only one that doesn't see the miller wiki page thing as a big deal?

you don't see Jack lying and feeding misinformation about a controversial roleclaim as a big deal?

 

And you don't see the massive damage claiming a controversial role has done to the town? Yo don't see Red's slip up as noteworthy when it indicates conventional good characters are scum, when we've saw good characters flip town? And you don't see how over sensationalizing a mistake and putting your blinders on inky focusing on one player is detreminatal to the town?

 

Two people can play that game Nolder. Anyone can ask questions and set someone up to look scummy.

Ptsh, you have been doing that a lot. Funny how you have nothing to say about me now that I have revealed my character and role.

[Sedai]

No I've got things to say. I don't believe you for one, but that's besides the point. I think Red is our best shot for scum at this time. I'd be over hours to switch to you tbh if people wanted you lynched.

[Sedai]

When have I been putting blinders in and locking on one player. I've clearly stated I suspect multiple players and I am willing to vote different people.

 

Again saying something doesn't make it real.

[Nolder]

Unvote and vote BG

can you provide a reason? or at least cite some reasoning that has already been stated (like I did)

 

it makes it easier to keep track of who voted who and why

Dude, we have had to ask you EVERY time you voted, this is pinging the hell out of my scumdar, almost EVERY player aside from day 1 jokes and blatant bandwagons will explain their vote.

WHAT?

no way

I almost always provide reasoning

if not in the same post I at least reference earlier posts

are you sure you're not getting me confused with someone else?

 

And no, you have not been acting super town.

if you don't think so that's fine

all I ask is that you actually take my actions into consideration and don't just lynch me because of my character

 

 

This is a basic game, by rights there should not be a roleblocker in the game.

is there some list of roles that are and aren't in basic games?

you guys seem to have this idea of what is and isn't ok

to my understanding any well known and commonly used role can be in a basic game

 

what can't be in a basic game is alterations on those roles

 

but maybe I misunderstood

 

roleblocker is the most common mafia power role

it's often the only power role they have aside from much more complicated roles like a bus driver which I doubt will make an appearance in this game

No. Godfather is the most common power mafia role. Roleblocker is about as common as PR giver. In a basic game, there should only be one mafia member with a power, and there is NO way for us to tell what it was until we get the coroners report.

I don't consider godfather a power role since he has no night choice, personal preference thing though so it doesn't matter

 

PR giver? I've never heard of that

do you mean an Enabler? or maybe a Switch?

 

regardless roleblocker is not a hard concept and while it does add an air of uncertainty about the game it still seems like a common and basic role to me

 

again if you guys think there wont be one then fine

you'd know better than I would what will and wont appear in a DM Basic game

 

but according to my information (he is amused at being called that now), Vader was pure sith. Anakin was the good part, so if someone were to be the good side of Vader, they wouldn't be CALLED Vader. When Vader died he was Anakin, because he turned his back on the dark side. So, Nol, because you are VADER, not ANAKIN, that tells me you are evil. Simple as that.

first of all I disagree with what you're saying

a Sith takes the title Darth and claims a new name when they join the dark side but who and what they are remains the same

it doesn't matter if you call him Darth Vader, Anakin, or "that one guy" he's still the same person

he always had an evil in him and he always had a good in him

but at all times he was still himself

 

secondly I'm glad to see you didn't vote me just because of my role /sarcasm

 

Plus, you have been acting super scummy and trying to clear yourself off of stuff that does nothing to clear you. You yourself said, go off your actions, not just your role

yeah what actions? you didn't even say anything

 

anyone can say "you're being scummy"

why don't you put a little more effort into your vote and explain why I'm scummy eh?

oh wait that's no good

I could actually defend myself then

[Adella]

Unvote and vote BG

can you provide a reason? or at least cite some reasoning that has already been stated (like I did)

 

it makes it easier to keep track of who voted who and why

Dude, we have had to ask you EVERY time you voted, this is pinging the hell out of my scumdar, almost EVERY player aside from day 1 jokes and blatant bandwagons will explain their vote.

WHAT?

no way

I almost always provide reasoning

if not in the same post I at least reference earlier posts

are you sure you're not getting me confused with someone else?

Sorry, this was directed at Jack, was just using your quote to point out that more than one person had to ask for a reason.

 

 

As to the rest of your post, all I really saw in that was defensiveness. Yes, I am basing a LOT of my vote on you off of the fact that you are Vader, and yes the dark side and light side in a person can be considered two different people, get into Star Wars dude (half-way kidding). Direct from Episode VI "Obi-Wan: "Your father was seduced by the dark side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. When that happened, the good man who was your father was destroyed. So what I told you was true... from a certain point of view."

I will go back and quote specifics about you being scummy if you want, but I was already casing you for day 1, so you can't say that I have no reasons at all. How about I just go back and quote my original post on why I thought you were suspicious, and then add on the reasoning why you think you're innocent just because someone flipped town. Again, mafia always knows who is town, so they could hesitate whenever they thought it would help stop them from being incriminated.

[Adella]

When have I been putting blinders in and locking on one player. I've clearly stated I suspect multiple players and I am willing to vote different people.

 

Again saying something doesn't make it real.

Okay, maybe I'm taking it personally, but really, you keep coming back to me, and a lot of times it is just because someone convinced you temporarily that they aren't super guilty. I would like you to actually tell me what I have done other than be a bit busier than everyone else.

[Nolder]

"...from a certain point of view"

 

also sure if you want

I'm not sure it will matter at this point

most of us seem to have our minds made up on who we want to lynch anyway

[Adella]

To prove a point, this is every quote from Jack that he mentioned any suspicion of me:

 

Nah, tbh I thought you looked scummy before this. You Christine, and Adella

This is your first mention of thinking I'm scummy, and no hint to a reason.

 

 

I'm here to. Nothing relevant is happening

 

Christine

Adella

BG

Red

 

Top 4 for scum

Again with no reason... Also, this was after you said you had some stuff to say over the night...?

 

Adella? really?

I'm not picking up any scum tells from her

 

Red is just being Red, hard for me to tell one way or another

 

Christine as I said is just being silly imo

 

and BG...yeah...I can see that

he's been saying some pretty weird stuff

 

Adella and Christine for the same reason of their on the fence play style earlier this game. I didntnlike it then and I dislike it the more I think about it.

 

Red isn't being red that's the point. She is playing differently. Where are the walls of texts?

 

BG yeah the whole if he is town I'm town comment

 

I'm confused about how either me or Christine are "on the fence" we have both been pretty clear on our thoughts at this time. I guess because Christine didn't vote that could be on the fence. But I stated my opinions and voted on them, not sure how that isn't defenite thinking..

 

Also, while I'm glad you think I'm town Nolder, it is kind of suspicious to me that your reasoning is me not having any "scum tells" seeing as how you have no idea what my personal scum tells are.

 

Your personal opinions were I looked scummy for defending myself, and Nolder was scummy for voting me and hoof was scummy for voting me. That my dear is the fence. You didn't jump off it until you voted hoof. You and Christine used similar reasoning close together. I find that scummy. I also find BG and red scummy and would be satisfied to lynch any of you

I have already said my piece on this, everyone plays this game by what they think is scummy, so I don't see why my (or Christine's) opinions are less than anyone else's. And btw, that is NOT what I said about them. It was about how they came to the decision that you were scummy, not who they were thinking was scum.

 

UNVOTE and vote Adella I've said my reasons

Uhm, you had the same reason on Christine, I'm not sure why this makes it better to vote for me over her. Or the other people who had a higher chance of being voted off with the rest of the town's votes.

 

So

 

Reveals:

 

1. BG - R2D2

2. Jack - Luke Skywalker

3. Christine - Chewbaka

4. Wolf - Princess Leia

5. Kate - Ewok

 

Left to Reveal

 

Nolder, Red, Adella, Amadine, Millon

 

Since we are looking at a three man mafia team the above left to reveals are my top suspects.

Because I haven't been active I am now a top suspect?

 

So Millon, how do you know AMA is lying? I am not for sure about your character, never heard of them. Are you claiming doc also? That'd be the only way to know Ama is lying. And then we lynch one of you to prove the other. I tend to believe AMA.

 

Still waiting to hear from Adella.

 

Top suspects

Nolder - Darth Vadar

Millon - can't remember who HR said

Adella - claimed no one

 

Possible fake claims

 

Amadine - medical robot (players all have names, yours is the only one without one. Makes my eyebrows raise)

Sometimes you have to wait, not everyone can be online all the time.

 

At this time a mass claim was a win win for the town. Out of all the possible players we are left with a list of 4 that could be mafia. In a game this size usually it's a scum team of three. So only one of the four is innocent. I think AMA is, but Nolder is the safe lynch at this time. Because Adella hasn't claimed, Mill says he knows AMA is lying, AMA claimed healer.

I didn't really understand what you said about me here, but yes I hadn't claimed... still hadn't been online.

 

ATM I just dont see why Ama would claim healer. Being the last pro-town power role surely she should of kept it secret. It really does put a target on her head for scum. if she is town, as she claims, she just made a huge mistake.

 

 

Also, as an aside, ye all do know that in the end Vader was a good guy? He killed Palpatine and brought balance to the Force. Just saying.

 

No I didn't know that. Hmm now I don't know what to think. I'm switching back to Adella UNVOTE and

Vote Adella

Seems like a fallback vote, not even giving me the chance to come online and reveal myself as the shiny git. (Yes, I think 3-P0 is a git.)

 

Actually Red it does include a partner. On the wiki it's listed as a mason/miller group. Check it ;)

 

Meh we havent heard from Adella, red I think you Nolder and Adella are scum. Maybe swap out Millon cause

He is trying to lynch the uncontested healer.

 

Adella, Red, Millon

Adella, Nolder, Millon

 

Red yo and Nolder are interchangeable. IMO Adella is a sure shot at scum. But I won't lynch Nolder today.

 

If we don't hit scum today and the healer Doesn't protect the correct player we lose. Nah it's gotta be Adella for me today. If not random is fine also it might hit scum.

It's weird that you think random is fine, with most of us a town (thus a higher % chance of it killing town), it seems silly to let it go to random. And this is where I started thinking you were over-focused. When there is less than a day to the deadline, you usually don't focus on someone who you most likely won't get a lynch on (at this time you were the only one voting me), you start thinking of consolidating votes.

 

We are potentially at LyLo if Adella is scum then I'm pretty sure Red is.

...I have no idea why me and Red are suddenly connected.

 

It's under miller/mason groups. It's there. Red I believe your scum and your grasping suspicions are prrof enough for me to personally vet Nolder and incriminate Adella.

Again, what in the world connects us?!

 

Tbh Nolder could of claimed anyone. The fact that he opted to claim DV makes me believe him.

 

Red why are you opposed to lynch Adella? The only thing she has done is played the field and lightly fosed the three main people day 1 and then bandwagon voted our finder. She hasn't took a stand on anything an that's scummy. :p

 

You all wanna try our luck with random? The only hree people I'd consider lynching is Adella, red, and Millon. So if none of those is okay, then I'm fine with that.

No, I voted for Nolder because I was suspicious of him, and condensed the vote count at the last minute in the interest of a controlled lynch. That was my exact reasoning, I can quote it if you would like.

 

Damn your right red. I thought it was day 3. I've got my games mixed up. 6 at one time is to many. Lynch mr if you want, because tbh I've said all I'm going to say. I like Adella for scum. I am not using that against her, I'm just saying her bandwagon vote was opportunistic. If hoof would have been vanilla I'd of said the same thing. I've got to get my game prepared to be modded. (I pre signed you up red

Cause the spots were going fast and I haven't posted sign ups yet) and if I'm playing in three or four games and moddin then things will unravel.

 

Red how have my actions been scummy? I've played my usual game.

Opportunistic? No, it was going with the town less than an hour until the deadline. Any townie would do it.

 

The only person I voted an fosed has been Adella over not revealing btw. I fosed others over their reveals. So :p

Maybe because I was the only person who hadn't had a chance to reveal?

[Adella]

"...from a certain point of view"

 

also sure if you want

I'm not sure it will matter at this point

most of us seem to have our minds made up on who we want to lynch anyway

This is true, and unless some of us bend a little we wont be getting a controlled lynch today.

[Nolder]

well I'm willing to lynch any of the following but the appear in order of preference: Jack, BG, Amadine, Millon

 

Jack has been erratic both in his accusations and his voting pattern

he'll just switch from one person to the next

and while this can imply that it's a townie not knowing who's who and reacting to new information I personally believe it's mafia trying to find the path of least resistance to a lynch (this is supported by the fact that he keeps coming back to Adella while she's been gone and without supporting his claims against her)

 

BG has said some pretty scummy things last night and IMO his votes against me are more OMGUS than anything else

I think he's just trying to get rid of me and using my claim as an excuse

 

Amadine's roleclaim makes me highly suspicious of her

and while it's hypocritical of me to say "judge me by my actions and not my role" and then turn around and want to vote someone just because of their role it's how I feel nonetheless

I'll admit that Amadine's play has mostly been void of scumminess but the character (which she can't even seem to remember correctly) just doesn't fit with the others

what's more I was looking at a list of star wars characters when we were talking about them earlier and the "medical droid" she's talking about (if it is in fact the one that fixed Lukes hand) has a name, he is "2-1B"

why couldn't she remember the name she initially gave? if she was given such an obscure character why wasn't she at least given his name? it just doesn't add up to me

the only thing that makes sense is the claim that the medical droid is a doctor

but at the time there was no reason to claim doctor we were just character claiming

why alert the mafia that the WIFOM of a doctor exists when you could have used it against them? I believe the answer is that Amadine was role fishing and trying to draw out a real doctor (which Millon seems to have implied that he is? I'm not sure how that works since nothing I know about Lando tells me he would be a doctor but still the soft claim is there) in an attempt to either get them lynched or at least reveal who they are

there isn't as much hard evidence here which is why I bumped her down below BG but I'd still lynch her off today if everyone else was willing to

 

Millon is a new addition to my list but I think I'd be ok with lynching him actually

I'm not sure if he's busy or actively lurking but he's barely posted anything

and while not as much info would be gained from his lynch as say me or jack it would at least somewhat clear Amadine and get rid of someone who isn't being productive

this is definitely not my top choice and I don't even really expect it to be an option

it's more of a FoS for tomorrow

[Sedai]

Adella vote is getting no traction UNVOTE and vote Nolder

[Sedai]

I meant red.

 

Adella why so jumpy when I was mainly pressuring Red? I think I hit money with you and her. Seems like a team mate trying to distract.

[Nolder]

maybe it would have gained traction had you explained yourself at all

 

good job jumping on my BW again btw

[bgrishinko]

My vote is not OMGUS. Aside from the DV + Miller claim, I explained earlier why I felt you seemed off. You did counter point it, but I wasn't convinced. Also, it is true that some of the reason comes from the Miller claim. I think you are blowing smoke and you are not a Miller, but mafia.

[Red2111]

So you must have a bad character. You say you dint know if Sakea made the bad characters good and the good characters bad. That statement would imply that you are not in fact a good character because by saying that you make it sound all good characters are bad. Also you set it up as a lynch one the other situation which makes me believe Nolder is town. Gotcha red

 

 

i say this because we have a known bad guy claiming to be a townie. you believe his claim obviously since your not pushing for him lynch and have said you believe his claim. logic says that if Sakaea made Vader a townie, then Luke stands equally to be a bad guy. given your push of this role reveal, and the character your claiming; i can see how you woudl think this gives you an immunity for a lynch by pushign for a mass role reveal.

 

 

once again, your twisting what i'm saying. i've claimed Han Solo. given this characters interaction in the movies and that he's one of the most iconic and well known characters in the movies due to the actor who played him, this woudl be a pretty risky claim to make falsely. just liek a Luke or Vader claim would be

 

 

Well since Red and you both agree, it must be more on the qt because she called you out earlier and said she will switch to you if I'm not gunna get lynched today. Just saying.

 

i've stated this before, i'm willing to switch to Nol for info purposes only. the only thing that he has against him is his character claim, you on the other hand have a scummy play style that i can smell a mile away in tis game. Nol makes a fair point on lynching someone based souly on their characters.

[Red2111]

btw Jack how many more people would you like to link me with and i'd like for you to post your proof as to why i'm linked with Adella.

[Millon]

Nolder, a little bit of both lol. I do most of my DM time at work and for anyone here who knows me I am usually logged on ALL day lol but I don't often get a chance to sit down and do long reads like for Adella's massive walls of posts.

 

I would love to hear exactly where and when I came off scummy. that would be appreciated.

 

Jack, I do not like the character claim at all as it is counter productive to finding scum and was a huge stalling tactic that claimed most of the time of the second day. Now the day phase is nearly over and another NK. You also seem very comfy with a random kill when we are already two town down. Not productive at all. I would rather have a lynch than chance a random.

 

Ama, you took the opportunity to up the ante by role claiming on top of the character reveal and that seemed opportunistic too. Two town down already on a small game means the greater chance a scum would be uncovered with the next lynch so you role claimed to protect and hide yourself better.

 

I do not like the chance of a random lynch and if my brief perusal (because I despise walls of texts) is correct Jack, my second choice of investigation after Ama, has the most votes. I am voting him. I can't recall if I had voted already though so unvote and now I vote Jack Doesn't seem like anyone is on the same argument with me about Ama and that only leaves you Jack.