[BASIC] Star Wars Mafia GAME OVER!!!

[Red2111]

Even though Red did change votes, I felt like it was a bit slick to jump on Nolder just because of his character role. That puts up a red flag, because it seems like it was a move to try and get a quick lynch without much reason, other than character. That seems subject to suspicion.

 

I don't want to put a lot of money in who people say they are because, in the end, I only know who I am and who the cop and vigilante are.

 

I'm still suspicious of the others, but the aggression against Jack and jumping on Nolder for character pings on the radar.

 

Unvote.

 

Vote Red.

 

Of course, as we're nearing the deadline, I would not be against voting Adella (for her lack of a claim) to avoid a random lynch.

 

 

there is a reason why i based my vote on Nol off his character/role reveal. jack pointed out something very important. this is a basic game, meaning twists and turns and advanced roles (like a Miller and what a Miller woudl cause) aren't to be expected.

 

given this, you go into the game expecting bad guys to be the scum and the good guys to be town. if tis were Hp themed, i'd expect Harry to be town and Voldy to be scum. get what i mean.

 

but here we have a person claiming a known antagonist in this series and claiming a semi advanced role to boot. one that in any game generally gets the claimer a fast tracked lynch. this is why i had no bones about voting Nol based souly on his reveal.

 

 

 

as for my agression on Jack *shrugs* thats how i play. i'm 98% convinced now that he's scum, when i see a player who i think is scum and am not the finder, i tend to lock on them like a pit bull to see what shakes loose. soemtimes i get a scum, soemtiems i dont. jack's a master at this game and a player i mentored off of for over a year. he knows this about me and most likely knows how to use it agaisnt me which is why i love playing this game with him *snuggles pete*

[Sedai]

The only person I voted an fosed has been Adella over not revealing btw. I fosed others over their reveals. So :p

[Sedai]

Yep, those were gold times Red :)

[Red2111]

*shrugs* aside from arguing semantics about the game day; it still doesn't discount the other points i brought up or make me veiw you as any less scummy or discount that your lynch would also give us the most info for today.

 

2 very good reasons imo to push for a lynch on you, which is why i'm doing just that.

 

 

the main info we get is if Luke is a townie, then its more than doubtful that Vader is town aligned. which is why i also said i'm still not opposed to switching my vote to Nol for the majority if need be.

[Sedai]

Linking players is a scummy move red.

[Red2111]

lmao in this case it yeilds good info. because one main character death will tell us if the mod did pull a twist by making the good guys scum adn the bad guys town. which is what Nol is claiming. there are different forms of linking players, and i rearly use them unless a situation like this occurs where one persons alignment will directly clear a question surrounding another player.

 

 

one difference is that if Nol is tellign the truth, his alignement isn't the only thing i have to go off to make a case against you.

 

on the other hand, what your doing by saying "if Adella flips scum, Red is also scum" is basing my scumminess souly on another players alignment rather than using her alignemnt to determine my scumminess, rather than using anythign i've said game related and just adding the connection to your case.

 

 

[bgrishinko]

I'm going off the fact that Obi-Wan was town as a basis to say Luke would be town.

[bhskeeper11]

Unvote.'

 

I think my assessment of you was premature, based on your statement as well as Jack's agreement of your playing style. I just found the aggression really, well, aggressive.

 

Hmm... I still like Nolder for lynching, but the more I think about it, the more I'm unnerved by Adella's lack of a claim.

[Sedai]

lmao in this case it yeilds good info. because one main character death will tell us if the mod did pull a twist by making the good guys scum adn the bad guys town. which is what Nol is claiming. there are different forms of linking players, and i rearly use them unless a situation like this occurs where one persons alignment will directly clear a question surrounding another player.

 

 

one difference is that if Nol is tellign the truth, his alignement isn't the only thing i have to go off to make a case against you.

 

on the other hand, what your doing by saying "if Adella flips scum, Red is also scum" is basing my scumminess souly on another players alignment rather than using her alignemnt to determine my scumminess, rather than using anythign i've said game related and just adding the connection to your case.

 

So you must have a bad character. You say you dint know if Sakea made the bad characters good and the good characters bad. That statement would imply that you are not in fact a good character because by saying that you make it sound all good characters are bad. Also you set it up as a lynch one the other situation which makes me believe Nolder is town. Gotcha red

[bgrishinko]

That kinda makes sense Jack...

 

Red? What have you to say?

[Sedai]

That kinda makes sense Jack...

 

Red? What have you to say?

 

:) I was wondering if people would get it. I'm kinda weird like that sometimes.

[Adella]

IT LITERTALLY TOOK ME ALL DAY TO CATCH UP ON THIS THREAD FROM MY PHONE! O_O

 

Okay, I'm on my last break at work, so I have time to do a short post from my phone. First: I am C3-P0, Vanilla Town. Second, its total bs that everyone is FoSing me off of the fact that I haven't been online and thus haven't revealed. If I have been online a bunch and still hadn't posted, then that would be different and reasonable. But we all know a lot of people can't get on much over the weekend, for me personally its the only time I get to spend with my family and my boyfriend, so no I'm not on DM that much on weekends. So, everyone who thinks its "so suspicious" that I haven't revealed (really, why would I assume that we would be doing a mass reveal day 2) needs to rethink their strategy.

 

Also, while Vader was good in the very end, the whole "he brought balance to the force" thing was actually him killing all the jedi except obiwan and yoda. 2 and 2 is the rule of the force to be in balance, 2 jedi and 2 sith. Just fyi, Vader would be scum. And the emperor. Idk who the 3rd will be tho..

[Sakaea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Nolder (2) -- Christine, BG

 

Jack (2) -- Amadine, Red

 

Amadine (1) -- Nolder

 

Adella (1) -- Jack

 

Not Voting: Adella, Millon, Wolf, Kate

 

 

Deadline is tomorrow morning, 0930, PST

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

[Sedai]

UNVOTE and vote Red

[Nolder]

Red I don't lie over things like that. That's a cheap strategy and I lose respect for anyone who does something like that. This game is preloaded on my web browser on my phone. I just refresh periodically.

Well when I mod I put them in teams to balance out the guilty viewing. Kinda lynch one to prove the other. And most of the games I've played in there have been miller groups and not just a single miller. That's the way I've played it and saw it played

 

whoa whoa whoa hold the phone buddy

you're backpedaling and making excuses

 

 

It's under miller/mason groups. It's there. Red I believe your scum and your grasping suspicions are prrof enough for me to personally vet Nolder and incriminate Adella.

Actually Red it does include a partner. On the wiki it's listed as a mason/miller group. Check it ;)

 

we linked you to the Miller and Mason pages several times and asked you "are you talking about this page?" "where is it?" "is this the right wiki?" and you just ignored those questions

then the entire Miller page was copied, word for insignificant word, for you and you still ignored it

and now you're claiming that it's just something you do when you mod? well where is it on the wiki? that's what you said and that's what I want to see

 

while I still believe Ama is fakeclaiming and BG is scummy this is far too blatant to ignore

Unvote Amadine

Vote: Jack

[Nolder]

we really need to start forming a consensus and agree about who to lynch

[bhskeeper11]

This is a really hard decision to make.

 

There was so much new info added this phase, but none of it really adds up to give a "definite" candidate for lynching.

 

I've just finished up a re-read/skim from the end of Day 1 and BG made some very suspicious posts during the night phase. Particularly in such an odd reaction when we found out Hoof was the cop. I think the reveals and all gave us so much new information that we forgot about that. And I think BG was careful today, only calling out Nolder when 3 other people had votes on him and Jack had just changed his vote away; that seems like it was a "safe" move. The rest of his statements remained pretty neutral.

 

And, when I looked back, I realized that Jack really didn't start the revealing. BG did when he had 4 votes. It was still early in the day with plenty of time for the mood to shift, but he obviously felt anxious enough to claim. To me, this is highly suspicious.

 

So, even though Day 2 gave us a ton of new info that doesn't directly aim towards BG, I think he's a good candidate for a lynch.

 

Vote BG.

[bgrishinko]

Am I the only one that doesn't see the miller wiki page thing as a big deal?

[bgrishinko]

Kate... if I were to take a chance as mafia and do a fake character reveal... don't you think I would have chosen someone else less likely to have a counter claim than R2-D2?

 

Also yeah... people dint like how I reacted to Hoofs death.... I still say Pfff. Whatever. I'm miffed that I allowed myself to be goaded into changing my vote.

[Nolder]

Am I the only one that doesn't see the miller wiki page thing as a big deal?

you don't see Jack lying and feeding misinformation about a controversial roleclaim as a big deal?

[Sedai]

Nolder the wiki could of changed. I don't keep it up and keep track of it. When I modded it was there. I've always used it as a group to counter act the imbalance it has towards the town. I thought it was pretty common practice tbh, and I've just finished a game where it was the case.

 

I'm not making excuses or back pedaling. If I didn't think you were town I'd put a vote on you. And your bold overly large font makes you seem obnoxious.

 

It's funny how people are making a big deal about my wiki mistake, but are by in large over looking Red's slip. Whatever.

[Sedai]

Am I the only one that doesn't see the miller wiki page thing as a big deal?

you don't see Jack lying and feeding misinformation about a controversial roleclaim as a big deal?

 

And you don't see the massive damage claiming a controversial role has done to the town? Yo don't see Red's slip up as noteworthy when it indicates conventional good characters are scum, when we've saw good characters flip town? And you don't see how over sensationalizing a mistake and putting your blinders on inky focusing on one player is detreminatal to the town?

 

Two people can play that game Nolder. Anyone can ask questions and set someone up to look scummy.

[bhskeeper11]

Kate... if I were to take a chance as mafia and do a fake character reveal... don't you think I would have chosen someone else less likely to have a counter claim than R2-D2?

 

I would have thought, yes... but, there have been a lot of surprises in this game that I didn't expect. And just because Adella was the last to reveal (and, thus, had no chance for someone making a counter-claim), I don't automatically think her to be mafia. Just like I don't think Nolder is default mafia just because he is Darth Vader. I already said that I am not putting a lot of thought into what people's character claims were. There were no counter claims, meaning 3 or 4 mafia members got lucky. Just because you claimed R2-D2 and no one counter-claimed does not make you default town.

 

Also yeah... people dint like how I reacted to Hoofs death.... I still say Pfff. Whatever. I'm miffed that I allowed myself to be goaded into changing my vote.

 

You weren't goaded into changing your vote. The only person to say anything that could be called advice was Jack... and that was after you wrote "WWJD?" If you felt pressured into voting, that was all you.

[Nolder]

Jack you keep trying to drag attention back to Red because you think it's important

well me and Red thought the Miller thing was important and you more or less ignored us

how do you explain that?

after she quoted the entire text to you you never responded

maybe if you'd said then and there "oh wow, I guess I was wrong my bad" I could look past it but your continued avoidance is what is bugging me the most

 

as for Red's "slip"

I don't really understand what it is you're trying to say

we've seen a good character (Obi) flip town and we've seen a bad character (Fett) flip town

we've yet to see scum so it's kind of hard to imagine what their characters are exactly

but yes back to Red

what did she say exactly that indicates she's scum? I missed it

[Sedai]

I quoted it and it was ignored.

 

I didn't ignore it Nolder, I addressed it and gave my explanation. If it wasn't good enough well that's all I've got. I could make up something if you want, but I've told the truth.

 

Well since Red and you both agree, it must be more on the qt because she called you out earlier and said she will switch to you if I'm not gunna get lynched today. Just saying.