[DPR Mafia] Vampire Hunter 6 - Game Thread

[John McClane]

BTW, I thought Conquest was #12, because for Question 3 (What do you think of your teammates), he mentioned you. Which would indicate #12 is someone on your team.

 

 

On second thought, I think #12 is VAmbram. He was hung up at the time about me "messing up" the call and response thing, and couldn't decide if I did it on purpose or not.

 

I did not.

 

I'll leave conquest at #3 until he confirms it. Where is half this game?

[Nolder]

Excellent. In that case, I will

 

Vote: Nolder

explain please

 

you've kept telling me you think I'm not scum and now you're voting me

[Alanna]

I received it late Sunday night. I did consider that the dream could be fake/a lie, which is why I took my time and thought some things through first. I also eventually had to ask DPR for some clarification about the Oracle role, because I'd never seen it before and wasn't entirely sure how it worked.

 

At the risk of getting flayed for mentioning RL, I should say that while I got the PM Sunday night, it was very late - I pretty much read it and then went to bed, without thinking much on it. I then worked basically all day Monday, so I've really only been thinking this through today.

[John McClane]

Nolder, I've been honest with you about everything I've said this game.

no you haven't

you constantly lie about my actions

 

you present things as FACT that are merely your OPINION

I consider that lying in an attempt to subtly sway people to your side of the argument without actually having to openly convince them

 

if you can just keep saying over and over again "NOLDER DERAILED ME, NOLDER DERAILED ME! HE'S SCUM GET HIM!" and incite me to argue with you about it it makes me look guilty

it may be a "legal" tactic in mafia but it sure as hell isn't fighting fair

 

you wont present an actual argument (without lies) because you have no case against me and you can't win like that

 

Sheesh.

 

"Fighting fair?" What the frak are you even talking about?

 

I haven't had to lie about anything, I've done nothing but point to the cumulative contributions you've made to this game, and my outcome is that you haven't made a pro-town contribution to the game yet, and therefore you are the smart lynch. I may be wrong about your alignment, I may be right, but I'm certainly not wrong about lynching you being the smartest play for town right now. You are either scum or a really bad town player. The one thing you are not, is an asset.

 

Now, shut up and die like a man. Self-vote and save some face.

[John McClane]

Excellent. In that case, I will

 

Vote: Nolder

explain please

 

you've kept telling me you think I'm not scum and now you're voting me

 

Did you receive the dream that Wombat says he sent to you?

[John McClane]

 

Sheesh.

 

"Fighting fair?" What the frak are you even talking about?

 

I haven't had to lie about anything, I've done nothing but point to the cumulative contributions you've made to this game, and my outcome is that you haven't made a pro-town contribution to the game yet, and therefore you are the smart lynch. I may be wrong about your alignment, I may be right, but I'm certainly not wrong about lynching you being the smartest play for town right now. You are either scum or a really bad town player. The one thing you are not, is an asset.

 

Now, shut up and die like a man. Self-vote and save some face.

 

Oh, and this was my opinion BEFORE we had a scum result from Alanna... now you are the only lynch candidate, imo.

[Nolder]

I'm #6. And I am finally going to vote Nolder.

Vote Nolder. I no longer think you are innocent. The Blind Game and Min's words make me suspect you more.

 

 

Christine's Count

 

Nolder (3) - Min, Lily, Christine

Berf (1) - Vambram

Jack (1) - Amega

Unvote

Vote Nolder

Excellent. In that case, I will

 

Vote: Nolder

Well that's a drag.. I thought thhere would be more discussiion on jack but I gueess not.

 

Well I do believe its time to see nolder squeal. I think one more vote will help the pressure. And we will find out if he is scum.

 

unvote vote bolder

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WHAT KIND OF MAFIA PLAYERS ARE YOU?

not a single one of you has really given a reason or explained their vote (except alanna and I'm still not sure if she received some kind of false dream or is just making it up)

 

seriously it doesn't even matter if I am scum or town

all of you are playing horribly if you're townies

you're giving mafia an opportunity to sheep without explaining anything and get away with it

 

terrible play

[Nolder]

Excellent. In that case, I will

 

Vote: Nolder

explain please

 

you've kept telling me you think I'm not scum and now you're voting me

 

Did you receive the dream that Wombat says he sent to you?

no actually I didn't

 

I can copy/paste a post I made in my QT asking my team what the heck he was talking about if you want

I obviously didn't know who it was that was making the claim at the time though

[John McClane]

The fact that you persist in insinuating that I haven't given a reason for voting you is absurd.

 

Seriously, self-vote... you are embarrassing yourself.

[Nolder]

I think I missed someones vote

whatever

it probably didn't have any reasoning either so the same applies

[John McClane]

no actually I didn't

 

I can copy/paste a post I made in my QT asking my team what the heck he was talking about if you want

I obviously didn't know who it was that was making the claim at the time though

 

Appreciate the answer. Now, lets see your alignment so we know how to react to this information and what to do with Womby.

[Nolder]

The fact that you persist in insinuating that I haven't given a reason for voting you is absurd.

 

Seriously, self-vote... you are embarrassing yourself.

the fact that you persist in insulting me instead of posting anything of substance is what's absurd here

 

it's very simple john

just one post

give me some reasons

 

or hell just copy/paste some of your older posts and glue them together

 

why are you afraid to remake a case against me? shouldn't you want to be showcasing my "guilt" to everyone to convince the rest of the town to vote on me?

[Vambram]

I was #17

If it was not for that Oracle vision, I would not vote Nolder, but keep my vote on ineedfourberfs, and then in the next round of lynchings see what we can do about finding another vampire. I am still not sold one way or the other on ineedfourberfs, but that Oracle vision confirms for me the suspicions that I have had about Nolder.

VOTE Nolder.

[John McClane]

See, now you are valuable Nolder... if you flip town now, we'll have Wombat in a lie... and Alanna.

 

Not bad, eh? But lets see... does it really make sense that scum would have 2 of their players stick their necks out this far to make sure your lynch goes through? I mean, scum really doesn't jeopardize themselves to lynch a player that is doing a fine job of making himself an easy lynch on his own... so... I'm pretty much expecting you to flip scum.

[Nolder]

no actually I didn't

 

I can copy/paste a post I made in my QT asking my team what the heck he was talking about if you want

I obviously didn't know who it was that was making the claim at the time though

 

Appreciate the answer. Now, lets see your alignment so we know how to react to this information and what to do with Womby.

if I had to take a guess I'd say either wombat is scum or the oracle role is a trap

unless anyone else wants to own up to buying the oracle role?

 

because I don't really see how wombat can claim he sent me a dream I didn't get and then right around the same time alanna posts she got a dream showing I'm scum

[Nolder]

See, now you are valuable Nolder... if you flip town now, we'll have Wombat in a lie... and Alanna.

 

Not bad, eh? But lets see... does it really make sense that scum would have 2 of their players stick their necks out this far to make sure your lynch goes through? I mean, scum really doesn't jeopardize themselves to lynch a player that is doing a fine job of making himself an easy lynch on his own... so... I'm pretty much expecting you to flip scum.

I think maybe it's time to start crunching numbers here

 

assume for the sake of argument I am town and wombat and alanna are scum

if they stick their necks out like that they must think they're close to winning I'd bet

it looks like we've had at least one vigilante kill (maybe two?)

add that to a recruit and mislynch and we'd be down another 4 townies by next voting phase

 

it could be a gambit for the one

and from the vamp POV even if it's a failed gambit they can always sacrifice those two people and recruit more townies who are not under suspicion

 

also it would take two phases to lynch them so they'd get even more recruits and more kills

AND it's possible one or both of them is a bomb

 

I think if we're not careful we might already be really close to lylo

[Nolder]

gambit for the win*

[John McClane]

The fact that you persist in insinuating that I haven't given a reason for voting you is absurd.

 

Seriously, self-vote... you are embarrassing yourself.

the fact that you persist in insulting me instead of posting anything of substance is what's absurd here

 

it's very simple john

just one post

give me some reasons

 

or hell just copy/paste some of your older posts and glue them together

 

why are you afraid to remake a case against me? shouldn't you want to be showcasing my "guilt" to everyone to convince the rest of the town to vote on me?

 

The substance was in the case posts I've filled this thread with since D1. This whole thread is bogged down with it, I spent a lot of time posting and reading to build a case on you... don't make it my fault that you continually ignore it, and need me to re-do it. Also, you said you didn't want me to re-make my case... and now you are saying you want me to.

 

I'm not afraid of anything... I've stated I am town repeatedly, when Christine said I was lying about being Moscow, I was prepared to die to prove her a liar. That is what townies do.

 

I've spent my whole evening on here putting you in check... at this point, if you were town and not selfish, you would understand that you should want to die right now. It would help us catch Wombat and Alanna if they are the ones lying about you.

 

The fact that you ignore this very logical play... leads me again to think you are scum, or have no clue what you are doing.

[Nolder]

I was #17

If it was not for that Oracle vision, I would not vote Nolder, but keep my vote on ineedfourberfs, and then in the next round of lynchings see what we can do about finding another vampire. I am still not sold one way or the other on ineedfourberfs, but that Oracle vision confirms for me the suspicions that I have had about Nolder.

VOTE Nolder.

and ANOTHER scummy vote

it's sickening because obviously most of you are townies voting

 

if it wasn't for the oracle vision you wouldn't be voting me? then why are you voting me? we haven't determined yet if alanna is lying or if the oracle is a trap role (sends nightmares??) or what

 

god this town sucks

take a minute and think?

maybe present an actual argument?

NAH I'LL JUST SHEEP MY VOTE

IT'S ALL GOOD

[WWWwombat]

ROFL @ desperation fear-mongering

[Alanna]

Dude, I would say anyone who's voted off the viewing has a pretty good reason to be voting you. The best way to determine if I'm lying is to lynch you.

 

Any other questions for me, ask now, because I really have to get to bed. I have to be up at 6AM. Can't remember the last time I had to be up that early, and I anticipate it being pretty unpleasant.

[John McClane]

See, now you are valuable Nolder... if you flip town now, we'll have Wombat in a lie... and Alanna.

 

Not bad, eh? But lets see... does it really make sense that scum would have 2 of their players stick their necks out this far to make sure your lynch goes through? I mean, scum really doesn't jeopardize themselves to lynch a player that is doing a fine job of making himself an easy lynch on his own... so... I'm pretty much expecting you to flip scum.

I think maybe it's time to start crunching numbers here

 

assume for the sake of argument I am town and wombat and alanna are scum

if they stick their necks out like that they must think they're close to winning I'd bet

it looks like we've had at least one vigilante kill (maybe two?)

add that to a recruit and mislynch and we'd be down another 4 townies by next voting phase

 

it could be a gambit for the one

and from the vamp POV even if it's a failed gambit they can always sacrifice those two people and recruit more townies who are not under suspicion

 

also it would take two phases to lynch them so they'd get even more recruits and more kills

AND it's possible one or both of them is a bomb

 

I think if we're not careful we might already be really close to lylo

 

16 players left, and we've figured out (thanks to my moral dilemma) that the maximum amount of vamps is probably 4 at this point, and you are fear-mongering about LYLO if you die? Really?

 

16 players, 4 scum, we lynch you - you flip town

15 players, 4 scum, we lynch wombat he is scum - they convert 1

14 players, 4 scum, we lynch alanna she is scum - they convert 1

13 players, 4 scum

 

I dont' see it... scum don't trade 2 players for 1 when there are 16 people left in the game. No logic to this defense.

 

Either way, you still make the most sense to lynch here IMO.

[Nolder]

Also, you said you didn't want me to re-make my case... and now you are saying you want me to.

you are such a liar

 

quote me

where did I say I did not want you to remake a case against me?

I've been asking you every other post to make a case and you consistently refuse

 

I've spent my whole evening on here putting you in check... at this point, if you were town and not selfish, you would understand that you should want to die right now. It would help us catch Wombat and Alanna if they are the ones lying about you.

don't try to guilt me into trying to suicide myself

letting a townie be lynched is not a pro town move

ever

 

maybe it would help us catch wombat and alanna

but you know what? we can catch them right now

reread their posts and think about it

both of them have been consistently lurky, alanna outright said that will not change

wombat is supposedly an oracle (I never got a dream) and alanna got a dream confirming I'm scum? if they're both scum I'd be willing to bet he'll claim he was the one that sent it to her lol

and what's with wombats 180? he told me several times he thought I was town (also why else would he supposedly send me a dream?) but now he sheeps on me without even explaining why?

 

use your brain john

town is being set up for a big fall and you're not even stopping to consider it

[WWWwombat]

Gonna do some laps?:)

[WWWwombat]

Gonna do some laps or something less fun?