[DPR Mafia] Vampire Hunter 6 - Game Thread

[Nolder]

I want you to tell me in one post (big or small I don't care) why you think I'm scum

list every reason, every incident, every bit of evidence you have please

and I'll go through it all and tell you why you're wrong

 

what I don't want to do is argue about my answers to your concerns for 50 pages

you'll state why I'm scum I'll state why you're wrong and that will be the end of it as far as I'm concerned

 

if you don't want to do it that's understandable

the only thing you have against me is that I've argued with you a lot about fairly pointless things but it's obvious you're just provoking me (and others) so I don't think people will hold that against me

 

You know what, you are right... my only case on you is for arguing with me about fairly pointless things. Like you derailing my case on Blackhoof, who flipped SCUM. Totally pointless thing to bring up, I'm such an instigator.

 

The fact that I isolated blind answer #2, and you started derailing me again, makes me thing it was probably another pointless case on a scum player. Did you see how I provoked you though? Every time I think I've got a case on scum, I decide to instead make a whole bunch of coherent points to you, while you respond with blatant BS. I find that you pumping the game thread full of BS is far more relevant than the cases I've come forward with... you know, on SCUM players.

 

Listen, I really hope you are scum, if you are you've done a decent job trying to knock me off balance, and disrupt the town... if you aren't scum, this has been THE WORST PERFORMANCE I'VE EVER SEEN BY A TOWNIE.

you are so sadly egotistical I have to imagine it's part of your act as a mafia player because if it's not that's pretty bad...

 

anyway moving on

I like how you just assume my every post is meant to derail YOU

as if YOU are the only player playing this game

as if YOU are somehow confirmed town

as if YOU are the only one trying to find the scum

 

this game is not just about you John

you keep bringing up blackhoof but why don't you reread what happened again

you were pressuring him and I questioned you on it

I have just as much right to question you as you have to pressure someone

it's obvious you can't stand someone questioning your actions because as soon as they do you blow up on them and accuse them of derailing you like you are our messiah or something

 

you're just another player in this game John

deal with it

[John McClane]

You prove me right with every response, you are like the gift that keeps on giving... I just wish I had kept the frakking receipt.

 

Which blind answer is yours?

[Nolder]

You prove me right with every response

you say this every time I respond to you

 

this is basically why I'm done

you never explain yourself or what "scumtells" I've supposedly dropped

you have no case and I'm done with you until you present one

 

and ya know? I'm not even going to give you one bit of ammo

mine was #14

yes I listed myself as scummy

[John McClane]

you are so sadly egotistical I have to imagine it's part of your act as a mafia player because if it's not that's pretty bad...

anyway moving on

I like how you just assume my every post is meant to derail YOU

as if YOU are the only player playing this game

as if YOU are somehow confirmed town

as if YOU are the only one trying to find the scum

 

this game is not just about you John

you keep bringing up blackhoof but why don't you reread what happened again

you were pressuring him and I questioned you on it

I have just as much right to question you as you have to pressure someone

it's obvious you can't stand someone questioning your actions because as soon as they do you blow up on them and accuse them of derailing you like you are our messiah or something

 

you're just another player in this game John

deal with it

 

I like the part where you say, "moving on" and then give an itemized list of all the pertinent facts about how terrible I am. Way to put the discussion behind you. If you end up being town, and we ever end up in a game together again and I am town, I will do anything within my power to kill on D1.

 

For the record, I don't mind anyone questioning my actions at all... You attacked me with spin and nonsense for casing a player that turned out to be scum. End of story.

 

I keep bringing up Blackhoof because we know his alignment. He was scum. I went back and re-read that whole section with the context of know he was scum, and JLM was scum... that is how you play the game. Knowing the alignment of a player, especially a scum player, gives you context to be able to look at how players maneuver, the things they say, and more often than not build a case on someone for also being scum... or just really bad at mafia.

 

Let me guess, your response will feign disinterest in what I have to say, yet contradict that disinterest by further exacerbating the irrelevant points you've chosen to focus on... while ignoring the pertinent ones I've been incapable of getting you to acknowledge.

 

Can't wait.

[John McClane]

You prove me right with every response

you say this every time I respond to you

 

this is basically why I'm done

you never explain yourself or what "scumtells" I've supposedly dropped

you have no case and I'm done with you until you present one

 

and ya know? I'm not even going to give you one bit of ammo

mine was #14

yes I listed myself as scummy

 

I've cased you throughout this game thread, and the blind game. You don't get to dismiss me just because I'm not willing to give you the cliff's notes. It doesn't work like that.

 

And don't act like the bigger person because you had to be asked multiple times which blind answers were yours. I am not looking for ammo to use against you anymore. My mind was made up about you on D1, since then I've just enjoyed using you as a punching bag.

 

You haven't done ONE THING that has been pro-town. Best case scenario is you are a vampire... worst case, you are the worst mafia player I've ever encountered and town, and you will be out of our hair...

[John McClane]

I'd like to attach each of these statement to their owners... Wombat? Song? Nolder? Each of you has been reluctant to share...

 

# 1. amegakure

Well it seems like theirs multiplefactions at work. Im not sure about the full plot seeings how this is one ofyour games dpr. With multiple teams and vampires on another team. Then theirsthe part were we've been decieved so im not quite sure what that means. 1.jack 2.john 3.allana 4.min 5.song Half those just for being quiteinactive and the others for already stated scumminess. Also as far as it can be trusted lily is telling the truthabout getting saudia arabia...so im inclined to take her off my list. That'sall folks..

 

#2.

I think that this Vampire Hunter gamestarted with a team of vampires, and at least two teams of Hunters. TheVampires were probably a small team of four players. The Hunters are from NewYork and Team Paris. However, we have also seen mention of Team Saudi Arabia. Idon't know what to make of that team, except that one of them was revealed as avampire, and that was Blackhoof. I believe that the vampires are: ineedfourberfs Christine leelou John McLane There has been a reveal of a cultleader in this game who is also a werewolf. This person is Jack_D and he saysthat his win condition is that he wins if the Town wins. I believe him, and ifthere are any other werewolves out there, they should be especially focused on huntingvampires because they hate vampires. I know that I am NOT scum, I am NOT a vampire, and I wascleared of being so during the fast game thread.

 

#3. Conquest (waiting for him to confirm)

1. I'm Leaning that my teammates areClean, and that everyone else is a vampire/werewolf 2. I really think that the team thingactually just hinders the whole process all together though, any one couldbecome a fanger and teammates wouldn't suspect you till it was to late, anoxymoron i know but i trust those on my team for now... 3.as of now my team is clean... ihope 4. the win condition is to be able to change sides asoften as you can to be sure not to feel bad for lynching your teammates.

 

#4. MIN

1. A summary of what they think isgoing on. I think I triggered the werewolf coming on scene because I viewed himand therefore the call to action was put out. Jack D being the werewolf inquestion then didn’t follow the rules on purpose to cause the direconsequences. I do believe we have a vampire teamand possibly a werewolf or two. Well, I know of one for sure, just need to findout if he has any pack mates. 2. A listing of who they think is avampire. After so many years in the catacombs hunting these foul creatures youwould think it is easy to spot them. However, these vampires from the Americasare different. It is hard to really tell as they blend in so well at night withthe rest of us and I don’t know these other people from around the world. Atthis point my suspicions are on Christine, Alanna or Leelou are our remainingvampire or werewolves. Maybe ConQuest, can’t get a read on him. 3. Doubts or questions you have aboutyour team-mates. My teammate and I have killed many vampires together. I wishwe hadn’t lost Sakaea so early on. Those other teams sure don’t know a goodhunter when they see one. I hope we vanquish all of these foul demons to avengethe death of Sakaea. I do doubt my other teammate has been turned as it wouldbe little use to the vampires. 4. Anything else of value that you think will benefit youand your win condition. It would be useful if all the vamps and werewolveswould just eat and bite each other. Then those of us wishing to go about ourlives and hunt what is left in our countries can just clean up the carnage anddo just that. Paris is a lovely city, I really hate spending so much timeunderground there. I would love to sit in the sun and drink coffee at a caféand lead a normal life. My family however has sworn to rid the world of thesecreatures of the night and I will uphold my families honor.

 

# 5

Part Þe First I have no pretensions as to havingknowledge of what is happening. I have tried to match wits wiÞ Þe Dread Piratebefore and have always ended dashed upon Þe rocks. He is moste cunning anddastardly. Do not Þink for Þe space of one breaÞ Þat you have a grasp on whatis really happening. I agree wiÞ Ms. Lily ElizabeÞ Þat Þe Dread Piratewould have countered Þe possibility of multiple investigateurs, however, I donot agree wiÞ Þe proposed means. þe Dread Pirate is not so simple as Þat. Trustin your heart and in your dreams and you will not go wrong. Part Þe feconde I have no pretensions as to havingabsolute knowledge of who among us is undead, however, I have significantsuspicion of Þe following: Christine Amadine Leelou Vambram Jack D. I have not seen enough of Song of Iceand Fire or mottlee. I suggest Þat Þey join us in hunting Þe vampire scourge orelse Þey will surely perish. Part Þe þrid I have no doubts or questionsregarding my remaining teammate at Þis moment. However, I have taken action toconfirm Þe truftworÞinesse of Þis teammate. þe one called Nolder should nowknow where my teammate stands. Part Þe FourÞ I repeat, trust in your heart and inyour dreams and you will not go wrong. -G

 

#6

I don't have a very good idea aboutwhat could be going on in this game, and actually, I think that's somethingsome players may be losing sight of. DPR has pretty much said there are thingsgoing on we don't know about, so I think anyone who keeps talking aboutconfirming innocents is merely distracting from actual vamp-hunting. However ithappens, it seems to me that players could be turned at any time behind thescenes, so confirming people, either by teams or findings or the fast game, ispointless. Straight-up scum hunting (meaning, casing people by their posts)will be the best way to serve the town in this game. So no, I don't think eventhe people that came back "confirmed" town from the fast game aresafe. I think it likely some of those people may have actually come back asvamps. The nutty idea that players could be vamps and not know it has crossedmy mind as well, though I'm not sure how that would fit in story-wise. As for who is a vamp - I'm prettysure Nolder is. Aside from that, I just have hunches. I don't really have any doubts aboutmy teammate for now. I'm keeping in mind I can't 100% trust him, but I feelpretty okay about him at the moment. I had initially thought there might besomething off about our team, but one of our members was killed and came outtown, so I'm feeling less unsure about that. I think that's all I have to say.

 

#7 Lily

1.I’ve been thinking that there mightonly have been allowed one CL position and anyone who tried to buy it after thefirst person did would just lose their points, but maybe the first person toactually buy it really got it. I think that’s where the werewolves are comingfrom. I believe Jack on that much. 2.I think the vamps are Team Saudiand Nolder is one of them. Don’t know who the others are yet. There areprobably some recruits who aren’t on Team Saudi, as well. 3.I’m fairly confident in myteammates at this point. 4.I can’t think of anything else that might be helpful.

 

#8.

First I thought that the vampires wason a seperate team. I´m not so sure about that anymore. If the vampires havebeen recruiting, and that is likely, then no team can be safe anymore. I´mhighly suspicious of one of my team mates. The other one I´m sure of beingtown. Well, as sure as anyone can be in a DPR game. If Jack has recruited there are morethan one wolf. And I guess there can be more wolf packs since more players thanJack could have been tempted to buy the cult leader roll. I think the wolfs area threat to townies. Suspects for original vampires: One(or more) out of Ama, Christine and Leelou. Alanna and Berf. Suspects for recruited vampires or wolfs: Lily and John.

#9. I was thinking of buying the CL role.I was pretty indecisive, and was given a moral dilemma in which I could spend apoint to know if I should or shouldn't buy it, I was given a big fat no youdon't want this role. So there is definitely something up with the role, and Iwouldn't trust Jack D. Also verb was on my team. I am town, so there are vampsamong us.

 

#10.

1. Jack claiming Werewolf is veryworriying. I have played a LOT of games and ive never seen the cult win withthe town 2. Chrstine, Nolder, maybe berf,maybe wwwombat 3. My teammates are solid. I haventnoticed a change from anyof them being recruited 4. I think we need to concentrate onsharing the info with our viewings. I also don like Jack being cult.

 

#11

1. A summary of what they think isgoing on. To be honest I have no idea what isgoing on. With so many twists and things happening it is very hard to figureout who is a vamp and who isn't. There are so many unknowns that even thepeople who have been semi-cleared can still be recruited vamps. 2. A listing of who they think is avampire. nolder amadine christine 3. Doubts or questions you have aboutyour team-mates. Whether they are still on my team orhave they been recruited. 4. Anything else of value that youthink will benefit you and your win condition.

 

#12.

1. I think that there is a team ofWerewolves. The Vampires are attacking the Werewolves in response. 2. Amadine, Wombat, and Song are Vampires. 3. John messed up. Was it on purpose? 4. Is there a team of Vampires and ateam of Werewolves? How many have been recruited?

 

#13

1. A summary of what they think isgoing on. I've got some reading to do to getcaught up, and some of this might be established game knowledge at this point.I'm not sure... anyway, I believe that there are multiple teams of Vampirehunters, as you say. I believe that there is probably a 3rd party or two.Werewolf? Something more gruesome? I dunno. Part of me thinks that the actualvampires don't know who they are... I do think that the vampires started with2-3 players on their team. 2. A listing of who they think is avampire. My top 4 for vampires when I left forthe lake on Saturday were JLM, Verbal, Blackhoof and Nolder. You've played withme before, you know I don't always FOS and vote those I think are scum, so afew of the people I pressed was more an example of pressuring and making a"loud" case to see if my scum suspects would try jumping behind me. 3. Doubts or questions you have aboutyour team-mates. This is the least scummy I think Lilyhas ever seemed to me. Whenever I think she's scummy, she is town. Her lack ofscumminess and vocal role as a leader in the game is either because she's morein her element here at DM, or because she's scum. 4. Anything else of value that youthink will benefit you and your win condition. You should modkill the next personthat makes the "you placed a vote, therefore you are scum" case. Itsentry-level mafia at best. :)

#14. Nolder

1. We obviously have at least twoscum teams now (Vamps and Wolves). It looks to me like several players could bebussing their teammates so it's hard to tell which are the actual scum andwhich are just OMGUS voters. Hopefully when this blind mafia ends we canconsolidate our votes somewhat and narrow down the pool. 2. Suspect everyone. Anyone could bea Vampire or Werewolf at this point. Scummiest players right now in noparticular order are: Tina, Jack, Nolder, and Christine. 3. Like I said previously, suspecteveryone. I don't have any specific doubts about my team right now but you canbe sure I'm watching them as much as anyone else. 4. It would benefit me and my wincondition if you could list all the baddies for us to lynch. ;)

 

#15. Leelou (TOWN)

1. A summary of what they think isgoing on. - That you are having fun! :) It's obvious there are now werewolvesrunning around among the vampires and townies, as to if they are protown or notis yet to be seen. 2. A listing of who they think is avampire. I think Alanna and maybe nolder are vampires. 3. Doubts or questions you have aboutyour team-mates. None that I can think of so far. 4. Anything else of value that youthink will benefit you and your win condition. Go townies! :)

 

#16. Amadine

What i thinkis going on is that DPR is doing research for his next novel LOL gauging ourreactions to being locked up together....

 

High on mysuspect list is Amega - early in the game he latched onto Wombat’s FOS againstJLM here. Sometime after that i believehe may have been converted because here, he does a complete turnaround and votes Wombat. In thispost Amega agreeswith Blackhoof and casts a weak FOS at Jack.

 

Also high mylist is Nolder. Firstly for taking quotes out of context here, then backtracking on thoseremarks here and finally when Wombat castthe FOS at JLM, Nolder casthis support in JLMsdirection.

 

Christine hasbeen playing an overly defensive game (seeexample) which reeksof scum, but i don’t think that she actually is. Also Christine along withLeelou and Amadine remained untested in the Fast Game, which in itself ishighly questionable.

 

Song appearsto have a double vote here, and agreed with Blackhoof’sreasonings here.

 

 

#17

1. I think if we kill the original vampires then they won't be able to recruit.

 

2. Hoof trying to distract from that point and lynch a player for that makes me believe that point even more.

 

3. I'm not sure I believe jack's claim that he didn't see the post, however in other games he has stated he has been playing from his phone so I think the point is moot

 

4. DPR throwing in we have been deceived has me believing in the sleeper vamp idea proposed by wombat and jack

 

5. I'd like to hear more from Berf, he has barely posted and what he has said has been of little relevance. He opted to vote on jack over hoof, who we know was a vamp. Something we need to note

 

6. I think the wolves are town friendly. In allthe stories wolves and vampires are mortal enemies.

[WWWwombat]

I'm #5

[John McClane]

I'm #5

 

So you chose the Oracle role, and gave the alignment of your teammate to Nolder? Don't have to say who your teammate is, but is said teammate still alive?

[WWWwombat]

Yes.

[Alanna]

I'm #6. And I am finally going to vote Nolder.

[John McClane]

I'd like to attach each of these statement to their owners... Wombat? Song? Nolder? Each of you has been reluctant to share...

 

# 1. amegakure

Well it seems like theirs multiplefactions at work. Im not sure about the full plot seeings how this is one ofyour games dpr. With multiple teams and vampires on another team. Then theirsthe part were we've been decieved so im not quite sure what that means. 1.jack 2.john 3.allana 4.min 5.song Half those just for being quiteinactive and the others for already stated scumminess. Also as far as it can be trusted lily is telling the truthabout getting saudia arabia...so im inclined to take her off my list. That'sall folks..

 

#2.

I think that this Vampire Hunter gamestarted with a team of vampires, and at least two teams of Hunters. TheVampires were probably a small team of four players. The Hunters are from NewYork and Team Paris. However, we have also seen mention of Team Saudi Arabia. Idon't know what to make of that team, except that one of them was revealed as avampire, and that was Blackhoof. I believe that the vampires are: ineedfourberfs Christine leelou John McLane There has been a reveal of a cultleader in this game who is also a werewolf. This person is Jack_D and he saysthat his win condition is that he wins if the Town wins. I believe him, and ifthere are any other werewolves out there, they should be especially focused on huntingvampires because they hate vampires. I know that I am NOT scum, I am NOT a vampire, and I wascleared of being so during the fast game thread.

 

#3. Conquest (waiting for him to confirm)

1. I'm Leaning that my teammates areClean, and that everyone else is a vampire/werewolf 2. I really think that the team thingactually just hinders the whole process all together though, any one couldbecome a fanger and teammates wouldn't suspect you till it was to late, anoxymoron i know but i trust those on my team for now... 3.as of now my team is clean... ihope 4. the win condition is to be able to change sides asoften as you can to be sure not to feel bad for lynching your teammates.

 

#4. MIN

1. A summary of what they think isgoing on. I think I triggered the werewolf coming on scene because I viewed himand therefore the call to action was put out. Jack D being the werewolf inquestion then didn’t follow the rules on purpose to cause the direconsequences. I do believe we have a vampire teamand possibly a werewolf or two. Well, I know of one for sure, just need to findout if he has any pack mates. 2. A listing of who they think is avampire. After so many years in the catacombs hunting these foul creatures youwould think it is easy to spot them. However, these vampires from the Americasare different. It is hard to really tell as they blend in so well at night withthe rest of us and I don’t know these other people from around the world. Atthis point my suspicions are on Christine, Alanna or Leelou are our remainingvampire or werewolves. Maybe ConQuest, can’t get a read on him. 3. Doubts or questions you have aboutyour team-mates. My teammate and I have killed many vampires together. I wishwe hadn’t lost Sakaea so early on. Those other teams sure don’t know a goodhunter when they see one. I hope we vanquish all of these foul demons to avengethe death of Sakaea. I do doubt my other teammate has been turned as it wouldbe little use to the vampires. 4. Anything else of value that you think will benefit youand your win condition. It would be useful if all the vamps and werewolveswould just eat and bite each other. Then those of us wishing to go about ourlives and hunt what is left in our countries can just clean up the carnage anddo just that. Paris is a lovely city, I really hate spending so much timeunderground there. I would love to sit in the sun and drink coffee at a caféand lead a normal life. My family however has sworn to rid the world of thesecreatures of the night and I will uphold my families honor.

 

# 5 Wombat

Part Þe First I have no pretensions as to havingknowledge of what is happening. I have tried to match wits wiÞ Þe Dread Piratebefore and have always ended dashed upon Þe rocks. He is moste cunning anddastardly. Do not Þink for Þe space of one breaÞ Þat you have a grasp on whatis really happening. I agree wiÞ Ms. Lily ElizabeÞ Þat Þe Dread Piratewould have countered Þe possibility of multiple investigateurs, however, I donot agree wiÞ Þe proposed means. þe Dread Pirate is not so simple as Þat. Trustin your heart and in your dreams and you will not go wrong. Part Þe feconde I have no pretensions as to havingabsolute knowledge of who among us is undead, however, I have significantsuspicion of Þe following: Christine Amadine Leelou Vambram Jack D. I have not seen enough of Song of Iceand Fire or mottlee. I suggest Þat Þey join us in hunting Þe vampire scourge orelse Þey will surely perish. Part Þe þrid I have no doubts or questionsregarding my remaining teammate at Þis moment. However, I have taken action toconfirm Þe truftworÞinesse of Þis teammate. þe one called Nolder should nowknow where my teammate stands. Part Þe FourÞ I repeat, trust in your heart and inyour dreams and you will not go wrong. -G

 

#6 Alanna

I don't have a very good idea aboutwhat could be going on in this game, and actually, I think that's somethingsome players may be losing sight of. DPR has pretty much said there are thingsgoing on we don't know about, so I think anyone who keeps talking aboutconfirming innocents is merely distracting from actual vamp-hunting. However ithappens, it seems to me that players could be turned at any time behind thescenes, so confirming people, either by teams or findings or the fast game, ispointless. Straight-up scum hunting (meaning, casing people by their posts)will be the best way to serve the town in this game. So no, I don't think eventhe people that came back "confirmed" town from the fast game aresafe. I think it likely some of those people may have actually come back asvamps. The nutty idea that players could be vamps and not know it has crossedmy mind as well, though I'm not sure how that would fit in story-wise. As for who is a vamp - I'm prettysure Nolder is. Aside from that, I just have hunches. I don't really have any doubts aboutmy teammate for now. I'm keeping in mind I can't 100% trust him, but I feelpretty okay about him at the moment. I had initially thought there might besomething off about our team, but one of our members was killed and came outtown, so I'm feeling less unsure about that. I think that's all I have to say.

 

#7 Lily

1.I’ve been thinking that there mightonly have been allowed one CL position and anyone who tried to buy it after thefirst person did would just lose their points, but maybe the first person toactually buy it really got it. I think that’s where the werewolves are comingfrom. I believe Jack on that much. 2.I think the vamps are Team Saudiand Nolder is one of them. Don’t know who the others are yet. There areprobably some recruits who aren’t on Team Saudi, as well. 3.I’m fairly confident in myteammates at this point. 4.I can’t think of anything else that might be helpful.

 

#8.

First I thought that the vampires wason a seperate team. I´m not so sure about that anymore. If the vampires havebeen recruiting, and that is likely, then no team can be safe anymore. I´mhighly suspicious of one of my team mates. The other one I´m sure of beingtown. Well, as sure as anyone can be in a DPR game. If Jack has recruited there are morethan one wolf. And I guess there can be more wolf packs since more players thanJack could have been tempted to buy the cult leader roll. I think the wolfs area threat to townies. Suspects for original vampires: One(or more) out of Ama, Christine and Leelou. Alanna and Berf. Suspects for recruited vampires or wolfs: Lily and John.

#9. I was thinking of buying the CL role.I was pretty indecisive, and was given a moral dilemma in which I could spend apoint to know if I should or shouldn't buy it, I was given a big fat no youdon't want this role. So there is definitely something up with the role, and Iwouldn't trust Jack D. Also verb was on my team. I am town, so there are vampsamong us.

 

#10.

1. Jack claiming Werewolf is veryworriying. I have played a LOT of games and ive never seen the cult win withthe town 2. Chrstine, Nolder, maybe berf,maybe wwwombat 3. My teammates are solid. I haventnoticed a change from anyof them being recruited 4. I think we need to concentrate onsharing the info with our viewings. I also don like Jack being cult.

 

#11

1. A summary of what they think isgoing on. To be honest I have no idea what isgoing on. With so many twists and things happening it is very hard to figureout who is a vamp and who isn't. There are so many unknowns that even thepeople who have been semi-cleared can still be recruited vamps. 2. A listing of who they think is avampire. nolder amadine christine 3. Doubts or questions you have aboutyour team-mates. Whether they are still on my team orhave they been recruited. 4. Anything else of value that youthink will benefit you and your win condition.

 

#12.

1. I think that there is a team ofWerewolves. The Vampires are attacking the Werewolves in response. 2. Amadine, Wombat, and Song are Vampires. 3. John messed up. Was it on purpose? 4. Is there a team of Vampires and ateam of Werewolves? How many have been recruited?

 

#13

1. A summary of what they think isgoing on. I've got some reading to do to getcaught up, and some of this might be established game knowledge at this point.I'm not sure... anyway, I believe that there are multiple teams of Vampirehunters, as you say. I believe that there is probably a 3rd party or two.Werewolf? Something more gruesome? I dunno. Part of me thinks that the actualvampires don't know who they are... I do think that the vampires started with2-3 players on their team. 2. A listing of who they think is avampire. My top 4 for vampires when I left forthe lake on Saturday were JLM, Verbal, Blackhoof and Nolder. You've played withme before, you know I don't always FOS and vote those I think are scum, so afew of the people I pressed was more an example of pressuring and making a"loud" case to see if my scum suspects would try jumping behind me. 3. Doubts or questions you have aboutyour team-mates. This is the least scummy I think Lilyhas ever seemed to me. Whenever I think she's scummy, she is town. Her lack ofscumminess and vocal role as a leader in the game is either because she's morein her element here at DM, or because she's scum. 4. Anything else of value that youthink will benefit you and your win condition. You should modkill the next personthat makes the "you placed a vote, therefore you are scum" case. Itsentry-level mafia at best. :)

#14. Nolder

1. We obviously have at least twoscum teams now (Vamps and Wolves). It looks to me like several players could bebussing their teammates so it's hard to tell which are the actual scum andwhich are just OMGUS voters. Hopefully when this blind mafia ends we canconsolidate our votes somewhat and narrow down the pool. 2. Suspect everyone. Anyone could bea Vampire or Werewolf at this point. Scummiest players right now in noparticular order are: Tina, Jack, Nolder, and Christine. 3. Like I said previously, suspecteveryone. I don't have any specific doubts about my team right now but you canbe sure I'm watching them as much as anyone else. 4. It would benefit me and my wincondition if you could list all the baddies for us to lynch. ;)

 

#15. Leelou (TOWN)

1. A summary of what they think isgoing on. - That you are having fun! :) It's obvious there are now werewolvesrunning around among the vampires and townies, as to if they are protown or notis yet to be seen. 2. A listing of who they think is avampire. I think Alanna and maybe nolder are vampires. 3. Doubts or questions you have aboutyour team-mates. None that I can think of so far. 4. Anything else of value that youthink will benefit you and your win condition. Go townies! :)

 

#16. Amadine

What i thinkis going on is that DPR is doing research for his next novel LOL gauging ourreactions to being locked up together....

 

High on mysuspect list is Amega - early in the game he latched onto Wombat’s FOS againstJLM here. Sometime after that i believehe may have been converted because here, he does a complete turnaround and votes Wombat. In thispost Amega agreeswith Blackhoof and casts a weak FOS at Jack.

 

Also high mylist is Nolder. Firstly for taking quotes out of context here, then backtracking on thoseremarks here and finally when Wombat castthe FOS at JLM, Nolder casthis support in JLMsdirection.

 

Christine hasbeen playing an overly defensive game (seeexample) which reeksof scum, but i don’t think that she actually is. Also Christine along withLeelou and Amadine remained untested in the Fast Game, which in itself ishighly questionable.

 

Song appearsto have a double vote here, and agreed with Blackhoof’sreasonings here.

 

 

#17

1. I think if we kill the original vampires then they won't be able to recruit.

 

2. Hoof trying to distract from that point and lynch a player for that makes me believe that point even more.

 

3. I'm not sure I believe jack's claim that he didn't see the post, however in other games he has stated he has been playing from his phone so I think the point is moot

 

4. DPR throwing in we have been deceived has me believing in the sleeper vamp idea proposed by wombat and jack

 

5. I'd like to hear more from Berf, he has barely posted and what he has said has been of little relevance. He opted to vote on jack over hoof, who we know was a vamp. Something we need to note

 

6. I think the wolves are town friendly. In allthe stories wolves and vampires are mortal enemies.

[Alanna]

John, next time you post it, can you add you to that list? I know you said you're 13, but it just to have it all down in one place.

[John McClane]

I'm #5

 

So you chose the Oracle role, and gave the alignment of your teammate to Nolder? Don't have to say who your teammate is, but is said teammate still alive?

 

 

Yes.

 

I take it that is "Yes" on all accounts...

 

Oooh man I hate it when you are withdrawn like this. You are much more brazen when I've seen you as town, but I don't know what type of persona you have here in the "land of being nice to people that tell you to screw yourself" and how it differs from what I'm used to.

 

Why would you choose Nolder to give the result to? What hour of the game did you use it in? Can you use it more than once?

[Nolder]

you are so sadly egotistical I have to imagine it's part of your act as a mafia player because if it's not that's pretty bad...

anyway moving on

I like how you just assume my every post is meant to derail YOU

as if YOU are the only player playing this game

as if YOU are somehow confirmed town

as if YOU are the only one trying to find the scum

 

this game is not just about you John

you keep bringing up blackhoof but why don't you reread what happened again

you were pressuring him and I questioned you on it

I have just as much right to question you as you have to pressure someone

it's obvious you can't stand someone questioning your actions because as soon as they do you blow up on them and accuse them of derailing you like you are our messiah or something

 

you're just another player in this game John

deal with it

 

I like the part where you say, "moving on" and then give an itemized list of all the pertinent facts about how terrible I am. Way to put the discussion behind you. If you end up being town, and we ever end up in a game together again and I am town, I will do anything within my power to kill on D1.

I know right? I thought about that after I posted

oh well

my point is I'm not out to get you and just because I question you doesn't automatically make me scum

 

also way to hold a grudge lol

 

For the record, I don't mind anyone questioning my actions at all... You attacked me with spin and nonsense for casing a player that turned out to be scum. End of story.

I misread what was said (and owned up to it later) after just waking up with a headache

end of story

 

I keep bringing up Blackhoof because we know his alignment. He was scum. I went back and re-read that whole section with the context of know he was scum, and JLM was scum... that is how you play the game. Knowing the alignment of a player, especially a scum player, gives you context to be able to look at how players maneuver, the things they say, and more often than not build a case on someone for also being scum... or just really bad at mafia.

 

Let me guess, your response will feign disinterest in what I have to say, yet contradict that disinterest by further exacerbating the irrelevant points you've chosen to focus on... while ignoring the pertinent ones I've been incapable of getting you to acknowledge.

 

Can't wait.

I'm not disinterested

but I don't see your point either

 

I find it hard to believe (as I said previously) that you already knew blackhoof was scum right from the getgo

but even assuming you did I did not

all I saw was one player pressing another for what I saw as a very simple mistake

we know now that blackhoof is scum but we didn't then and that's where I think your argument breaks down

 

I've cased you throughout this game thread, and the blind game. You don't get to dismiss me just because I'm not willing to give you the cliff's notes. It doesn't work like that.

yeah actually it does

 

My mind was made up about you on D1, since then I've just enjoyed using you as a punching bag.

first honest thing you've said to me all game

[Alanna]

BTW, I thought Conquest was #12, because for Question 3 (What do you think of your teammates), he mentioned you. Which would indicate #12 is someone on your team.

[Alanna]

"You" being John.

[John McClane]

John, next time you post it, can you add you to that list? I know you said you're 13, but it just to have it all down in one place.

 

Of course, lol... I didn't even realize I didn't write me in there. Too much hokey pokey with Nolder... my eyes are spinning around like this...

 

[Nolder]

I'm #6. And I am finally going to vote Nolder.

this is your...third? bandwagon vote this game and your 11th post in this thread (so maybe you've had 20 posts total give or take)

I think it's time you started giving a reason for your actions

[John McClane]

BTW, I thought Conquest was #12, because for Question 3 (What do you think of your teammates), he mentioned you. Which would indicate #12 is someone on your team.

 

I wondered about that, but Lily said he was #3 in our QT. Not sure when he's coming back to the game tbh. I'll just take him off until he says which is his in the game thread.

[John McClane]

Nolder, I've been honest with you about everything I've said this game.

 

Case in point, you telling Alanna to explain her actions made me laugh so hard I pee'd a little...

[Alanna]

Nolder, I'm voting you because I received a viewing (a dream, likely from an Oracle) that indicated you were a vamp. You moved super fast in the dream, and had fangs, which you tried to bite me with.

 

I didn't say anything about it earlier because I was trying to figure out who might've sent it to me.

[Nolder]

Nolder, I'm voting you because I received a viewing (a dream, likely from an Oracle) that indicated you were a vamp. You moved super fast in the dream, and had fangs, which you tried to bite me with.

 

I didn't say anything about it earlier because I was trying to figure out who might've sent it to me.

when did you get this dream? why didn't you vote me earlier?

have you considered the dream could be a fake/some kind of lie?

 

I'm not sure that I believe that you actually received a dream

I think the answers to my questions will determine that or not

[WWWwombat]

Excellent. In that case, I will

 

Vote: Nolder

[John McClane]

Nolder, I'm voting you because I received a viewing (a dream, likely from an Oracle) that indicated you were a vamp. You moved super fast in the dream, and had fangs, which you tried to bite me with.

 

I didn't say anything about it earlier because I was trying to figure out who might've sent it to me.

 

Not sure it'd be a worthwhile play for scum to lie - so I lean towards believing you. However, I don't get why you wouldn't be screaming from teh rooftops that you have a scum result on Nolder here?

 

I'd like the Oracle that sent you this vision to vouch for this claim. Then we lynch Nolder, if he flips scum we dance in the streets nekked... if he flips town we lynch you, the oracle and then lynch me.

[Nolder]

Nolder, I've been honest with you about everything I've said this game.

no you haven't

you constantly lie about my actions

 

you present things as FACT that are merely your OPINION

I consider that lying in an attempt to subtly sway people to your side of the argument without actually having to openly convince them

 

if you can just keep saying over and over again "NOLDER DERAILED ME, NOLDER DERAILED ME! HE'S SCUM GET HIM!" and incite me to argue with you about it it makes me look guilty

it may be a "legal" tactic in mafia but it sure as hell isn't fighting fair

 

you wont present an actual argument (without lies) because you have no case against me and you can't win like that