[Advanced] Monty Python and the Holy Grail Mafia (Game Over)

[Moon Sedai]

First of all, I apologize for Silence, but I was turned into a newt.

 

 

 

 

I got better.

 

Next, I want to comment about my last post.

I quoted Charis and Jack:.

What Charis Said:

I am not rushing to Night One because I for one am afraid of what the scum will do in the Night. Clearly, you are not. Therefore your actions wreak of scum. You, too, are trying hard to point a FoS on me when it should be on you. Perhaps you and Red are on the same team?

Jack's response

@ Charis, you should know what the mafia is going to do. They're going to kill a player. If there is a SK they are going to kill a player, if there is a trigger happy vig then they are going to kill a player. Possibly multiple people will get NK. That's nothing new. Your overly trying to sound townie. That is a major scum tell to me

 

Jack, I'm confused by your statement here.

We know Mafia will kill people in the night, as will Vigs or SKs if there are any. We know that Night Actions can be deadly.

Your statements as such are kinda jerky. Charis knows that nks are part of the game, she is just afraid that Mafia scum are gonna target her for Night One because she's been working a case against you and Red.

Of course, now that i've said that, you and Red won't NK Charis, because it would put a stronger FOS at you.

Scum.

I'd change my vote, but I still strongly think Hoofy is Scum.

 

I think I had the case against me for calling Jack a Jerk. Because he was. He was trying to be a smart alec about the game, to Charis, so I shot it back at him.

That day I'd had little patience for smart alecs.

 

The votes against me were for what, Silence and calling out Jack's jerkiness?

My "linking together of players" was out of frustration towards the Scummy Jack

anyway, thank you for those who saw fit to wait and see what i had to say.

Bah.

I'm sorry that there was no majority achieved.

I would've voted for Jack, had I Been able to.

[Sedai]

I wasn't being a jerk. I'm sorry to come off that way. I was calling Charis on trying to sound overly town. It seemed like a front. Then you came in and your post sounded like you were defending Charis. I don't care that you call me a jerk. I care that you call me scummy without a real reason. But not that much to be honest.

 

First of all, I apologize for Silence, but I was turned into a newt.

 

 

 

 

I got better.

 

Next, I want to comment about my last post.

I quoted Charis and Jack:.

What Charis Said:

I am not rushing to Night One because I for one am afraid of what the scum will do in the Night. Clearly, you are not. Therefore your actions wreak of scum. You, too, are trying hard to point a FoS on me when it should be on you. Perhaps you and Red are on the same team?

Jack's response

@ Charis, you should know what the mafia is going to do. They're going to kill a player. If there is a SK they are going to kill a player, if there is a trigger happy vig then they are going to kill a player. Possibly multiple people will get NK. That's nothing new. Your overly trying to sound townie. That is a major scum tell to me

 

Jack, I'm confused by your statement here.

We know Mafia will kill people in the night, as will Vigs or SKs if there are any. We know that Night Actions can be deadly.

Your statements as such are kinda jerky. Charis knows that nks are part of the game, she is just afraid that Mafia scum are gonna target her for Night One because she's been working a case against you and Red.

Of course, now that i've said that, you and Red won't NK Charis, because it would put a stronger FOS at you.

Scum.

I'd change my vote, but I still strongly think Hoofy is Scum.

 

I think I had the case against me for calling Jack a Jerk. Because he was. He was trying to be a smart alec about the game, to Charis, so I shot it back at him.

That day I'd had little patience for smart alecs.

 

The votes against me were for what, Silence and calling out Jack's jerkiness?

My "linking together of players" was out of frustration towards the Scummy Jack

anyway, thank you for those who saw fit to wait and see what i had to say.

Bah.

I'm sorry that there was no majority achieved.

I would've voted for Jack, had I Been able to.

[berf]

Re-reading what Charis has said there, that whole

 

 

"I, for one, am afraid..."

 

SCUMMY.

 

Theres not wanting NK's and such, and then there's putting it on. That smells put on. Next she'll be quaking in terror. Puh-lease.

 

Christine and Charis. In my sights.

 

 

(PS I didn't think Jack was being much a jerk there? Amiright, people? Forget the whole Jack v Red drama for a minute and check the above post. Jerky? Or, just attacking enough to provoke a scum teammate (In this case Moon) to come out swinging? HRMMMMM)

[Sedai]

Thenks for the berf. You get me

[dapianoplay3r]

Sorry I wasnt around but DM wouldnt let me on at all. Ill catch up read now

[bgrishinko]

Assuming truth was told by all, we have a silencer and a newter? Which is effectively a silencer.

 

So how about that 4%. Oh, and I don't blame you for not voting yourself Jack... I wouldn't do it either. I also think that FoSing you for it seems a bit shady...

 

This is an odd night. There has been more scummy things said since the random lynch than all Day 2 combined. Must ponder more.

[csarmi]

Csarmi, Who do you believe to be the top 3 candidates for scum?

 

In the morning.

[csarmi]

I wanted to live. What information would you have gotten from my lynch? Please let me know the scenarios.

 

What if the random kill hit scum? Would you hat it then? Your dislike for my play is only circumstantial so I'm not taking that argument to serious.

 

That's a rehearsed line. It's not scummy just a general view point that is really common and doesn't need rehashing because we will end up with 2 pages of that's a bad move post.

 

I'd rather not prove my innocence by death.

 

1) Your alignment.

2) No power roles hit by the random kill.

3) Info on those who pushed for your lynch.

4) You out of the game.

 

All or any of these four would help town.

[WWWwombat]

Anyone saying Jack should have voted himself is wrong. Whether Jack is scum or town, he knows his own alignment and he doesn't know the alignment of who the random lynch will hit (just the odds).

[dapianoplay3r]

I have read this all through and haven't got much to say but i will comment on Jack

 

Jack, in the beginning I thought the scumminess people were calling on you was unfounded. To me you read out there and loud but not scummy, however as it got closer to the deadline and more votes piled on you my opinion of you changed. Maybe it was the pressure but you just reacted in a very non town way. Then it went to random mod kill and everyone was saying you should have voted yourself. Now im kind of with wombat on this, you shouldn'd lynch yourself unless you are a vanilla townie and then because you want to save the healer or finder or some other power role that's at risk from a MOD kill. It seems to me you might be one to do something like that. But since you didnt and were so adamant about not doing it (you were calling the MOD out on letting the extra hour kill you) it leads me to think you're A) Mafia

or B) A power role

Now at the beginning of tonight's read through I would have said B. But since I have read the last few pages I am more inclined to say A

 

Thats all for now

[WWWwombat]

blatant rolefishing by player

[dapianoplay3r]

I dont think he has a role. I think he is mafia now. I wouldnt have posted this if I thought he had a power role, it would have stayed on my notes only. But yes it looks a bit fishy doesnt it. I am way out of mafia practice

[Sedai]

Assuming truth was told by all, we have a silencer and a newter? Which is effectively a silencer.

 

So how about that 4%. Oh, and I don't blame you for not voting yourself Jack... I wouldn't do it either. I also think that FoSing you for it seems a bit shady...

 

This is an odd night. There has been more scummy things said since the random lynch than all Day 2 combined. Must ponder more.

 

Like you said BG that's assuming the truth was told. I don't assume the truth was told.

[Sedai]

@player what made you think I was scummier as the du progressed that general statement without a real reason is interesting

[Sedai]

I wanted to live. What information would you have gotten from my lynch? Please let me know the scenarios.

 

What if the random kill hit scum? Would you hat it then? Your dislike for my play is only circumstantial so I'm not taking that argument to serious.

 

That's a rehearsed line. It's not scummy just a general view point that is really common and doesn't need rehashing because we will end up with 2 pages of that's a bad move post.

 

I'd rather not prove my innocence by death.

 

1) Your alignment.

2) No power roles hit by the random kill.

3) Info on those who pushed for your lynch.

4) You out of the game.

 

All or any of these four would help town.

 

1) we got a players alignment and it just so happened that player was being set up by red

2) No power roles were hit so that point is invalid

3) the only way my lynch would provide information is if I'm mafia. My lynch was at the deadline and rushed so people would of said they either voted for consolidation or I looked scummy

4) Csarmi, I've played a lot more games then you and I've won a lot more then you. Several times I've won it for the town and a lot of times I've been on a team and my plays were the onlythinga to turn the game around. I'm good at what I do. Just because you don't get it, or you don't agree with how I play doesn't make me wrong. Your not the mafia god, and if you dislike me or my general playstyle shoot me a pm. There is no need to clutter game thread with that nonsense.

[bgrishinko]

Here's the thing Jack.

 

Referring to you track record isn't a good argument. The that's just my play style argument doesn't hold because the only real thing people have to go off is the playstyle at this point. Meta gaming by telling Csarmi not to clutter the thread seems a bit off when your reputation is what is at stake in this game.

 

Let's say for a sec you are town for certain... Csarmi could just be trying to get a rise out of you to incriminate you, in which case FoS him.

[csarmi]

My answers in bold.

 

I wanted to live. What information would you have gotten from my lynch? Please let me know the scenarios.

 

What if the random kill hit scum? Would you hat it then? Your dislike for my play is only circumstantial so I'm not taking that argument to serious.

 

That's a rehearsed line. It's not scummy just a general view point that is really common and doesn't need rehashing because we will end up with 2 pages of that's a bad move post.

 

I'd rather not prove my innocence by death.

 

1) Your alignment.

2) No power roles hit by the random kill.

3) Info on those who pushed for your lynch.

4) You out of the game.

 

All or any of these four would help town.

 

1) we got a players alignment and it just so happened that player was being set up by red

 

yea, lucky for us, sure, that could make Red look more scummy

 

2) No power roles were hit so that point is invalid

 

It's NOT invalid. Playing Russian Roulette is stupid, no matter the outcome

 

3) the only way my lynch would provide information is if I'm mafia. My lynch was at the deadline and rushed so people would of said they either voted for consolidation or I looked scummy

 

That's not true. For example, the points you're making would make a lot more sense if you were confirmed.

 

4) Csarmi, I've played a lot more games then you and I've won a lot more then you. Several times I've won it for the town and a lot of times I've been on a team and my plays were the onlythinga to turn the game around. I'm good at what I do. Just because you don't get it, or you don't agree with how I play doesn't make me wrong. Your not the mafia god, and if you dislike me or my general playstyle shoot me a pm. There is no need to clutter game thread with that nonsense.

 

Yes there is. You clutter your gamethreads with your nonsense. Which is usually one-sided, derailing the gamethread (while failing to see or at least count some points). You don't seem to have any idea how these games are st up as you're new here, see you act knowing-all all the time. And I won't break the rules by shooting you a PM.

 

[csarmi]

"see you act knowing-all all the time."

 

should read

 

"still you act knowing-all all the time."

 

BTW, I'm attacking your gamestyle (which is completely valid) and the thing you're doing in game (which is valid again). Actually, these are relevant to the game.

 

Here is your PM.

 

PM follows to Jack_D, read at your own risk.

 

 

Jack_D, this is a game.

 

[Sedai]

It's not breaking the rules if you don't talk about the game. I've been around DM longer then you. I just went by a different ne. I've heard people use it in the games I've played so I know I'm wel received.

 

Csarmi if my points don't agree with people when I'm alive no one is going to jump around and say he was a townie he knows what he is talking about. No if I'm rite the mafia is going to push you around and male me look like I don't know what I'm doing. If I'm wrong the mafia will push it to the front and try and get a couple of easy lynches.

 

What I post isn't clutter. To those predisposed to see ot as such will. if you read it it makes sense even if you don't agree with it.

 

BG it's been an ongoing thing between Csarmi and myself. Everygame he replies at me basically, "you don't know what your talking bout shut up" when that's not the case. I'm tired and annoyed of that behavior. Like He is an authority or something. I'm not going to FoS someone for being narrow-minded, or Thinking they are the be all and end all and anyone who plays different then what they believe is the correct play, well they are obviously slow or scum. No thats a personal problem and it doesn't fit the game. Besides OMGUS is only a good reason for a vote on day 1.

[Sedai]

It's not breaking the rules if you don't talk about the game. I've been around DM longer then you. I just went by a different ne. I've heard people use it in the games I've played so I know I'm wel received.

 

Csarmi if my points don't agree with people when I'm alive no one is going to jump around and say he was a townie he knows what he is talking about. No if I'm rite the mafia is going to push you around and male me look like I don't know what I'm doing. If I'm wrong the mafia will push it to the front and try and get a couple of easy lynches.

 

What I post isn't clutter. To those predisposed to see ot as such will. if you read it it makes sense even if you don't agree with it.

 

BG it's been an ongoing thing between Csarmi and myself. Everygame he replies at me basically, "you don't know what your talking bout shut up" when that's not the case. I'm tired and annoyed of that behavior. Like He is an authority or something. I'm not going to FoS someone for being narrow-minded, or Thinking they are the be all and end all and anyone who plays different then what they believe is the correct play, well they are obviously slow or scum. No thats a personal problem and it doesn't fit the game. Besides OMGUS is only a good reason for a vote on day 1.

[Sedai]

Holy double post batman

[Red2111]

*Red snores loudly as she sleeps at her post, having fallen asleep sometime in the wee hours while guarding her bridge*

 

 

 

as to Jack; i'm offically ignoring him now. his posts show me nothing to change my mind about him, and this is the reason why i haven't and wont answer him for the remainder of the game. Dude take a chill pill; your taking a game way to seriously, throwing a tantrum becuase the majority feels your being scummy and near degrading yourself to slinging personal insults. not to mention, if you are scumm, which i'm convinced you are through your own actions, cotninuing to tlak with you is giving you what you want. a distraction from finding true scum. yeah you may have an alignment of innocnet Jack, but i think your role is a Symp; becuasae you literally stink of it.

 

this is Mafia, you need a thick skin to play this game and to not go all emo meltdown just because you cna't sway the majority to your way of thinking. we've all been in your situation at one point in time as both scum and town. so just chill out with the near personal attacks. attacking a persons play style or pointing out what you think is scummy is one thing; but some of the stuff you've said a few pages back is what is making me ignore you.

 

 

also, there was a major contridiction in Jacks words versus the behaviour. he was all happy to prove himself innocent and thumb his nose at us with a corner report; yet doesn't vote himself to make sure we get information from the lynch. now this sounds like a case of Grandstanding. i've been in Jacks situation as town, and i gladly voted myself becuase i knew it would expose a few people for scum and show i was telling the truth. as town i'd hammer myself in a heart beat, or reveal if i had a power role.

 

 

Jacks lack of hinting at a reveal says to me he doesn't have a power role

Jacks Grandstanding says all this "my corner will prove you wrong" was just that, Grandstanding and trying to accomplish what he did (a random vote)

 

 

 

 

another point of interest is that we have two people claiming to have been silenced, Womby & Moon. i'm assuming thats a claim at having been silenced since Moon claims she couldn't vote. and convienently she also claims she would have voted for Jack, which could be honest truth or trying to maintain sympathy and attempt to have us all forget she was the leading vote runner before jack decided to try and hang himself. i find two silencers even in a game this big unlikely tbh. there was only one NK last night, so right now i'm assuming theres only 1 anti-town killing faction.

 

Moon, you still haven't answered any of the accusations or reasons against you; i find it odd that instead of comming right out of the gate with answers to questions posed at you during the beginning of Day 2, you decide to "forget" they existed and put your 2 cents on the Jack situation.

 

 

 

Wombat - care to tell why i'm at the top of your list and you FoS me. really you constantly FoS me but rarely give a reason.

[csarmi]

I haven't seen Jack do personal attacks. What do you mean, Red?

[csarmi]

as to Jack; i'm offically ignoring him now. his posts show me nothing to change my mind about him, and this is the reason why i haven't and wont answer him for the remainder of the game. [...]

 

this is Mafia, you need a thick skin to play this game and to not go all emo meltdown just because you cna't sway the majority to your way of thinking.

 

Sounds a bit contradictory to me. Should play this open-minded. Dismissing someone's posts just because you find him Symp?

[WWWwombat]

It's not breaking the rules if you don't talk about the game. I've been around DM longer then you. I just went by a different ne. I've heard people use it in the games I've played so I know I'm wel received.

 

You have to tell me who you were.