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Vote Killu

This is not because of Mynd or to be seen as bandwagoning.

I 've reviewed the last day, and I agree that Killu was VERY defensive of Red.

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Mynd, Deadly, I've got a question for you. Why didn't you vote for a controlled lynch yesterday, like 3 hours before deadline? FOS @ you both.

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  On 5/20/2011 at 3:33 PM, Myndrunner said:

Funny how your first instinct is to consider a serial killer. Wanna know what my first thought was? Vigilante! And in a basic game, it would more likely be a Vig anyway.

 

You defended Red. I called you out. Red was capped by our vig. Now, you are scrambling, trying to use "SERIAL KILLER" as a distraction, rather than try and suggest someone else is mafia. I'm kinda disappointed.

 

I'm just sad that JLM went to all this hard work to make a great game and its gonna be over in a couple days.

 

My second mafia game in here ended just few days ago, and it was a basic mafia. I was a serial killer. And I've never played a game with a Vig, so I'm not even completely sure how it works. So that's the reason for my thought of a SK (and I can't believe a basic would have two mafia teams either). And I think it's hardly a distraction as I didn't give any names :)

 

And I explained (or tried to, though you seem a bit bullheaded) my comments, if it's not enough, fair enough. Still I would FOS you for not wanting a controlled lynch yesterday.

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  On 5/17/2011 at 3:27 PM, csarmi said:

checking in

vote Deadly

 

 

  On 5/20/2011 at 6:42 PM, csarmi said:

Mynd, Deadly, I've got a question for you. Why didn't you vote for a controlled lynch yesterday, like 3 hours before deadline? FOS @ you both.

 

I felt Red was the better suggestion for lynching. I can't remember though, did she flip mafia when she was vig killed? Hmmm, maybe I was right about her and you all were wrong about Lily. Maybe you should be looking at who DID vote Lily instead, just sayin.

 

Or, you could explain your "checking in" vote on Deadly for the first time.

 

  On 5/20/2011 at 6:56 PM, killuliu said:
  On 5/20/2011 at 3:33 PM, Myndrunner said:

Funny how your first instinct is to consider a serial killer. Wanna know what my first thought was? Vigilante! And in a basic game, it would more likely be a Vig anyway.

 

You defended Red. I called you out. Red was capped by our vig. Now, you are scrambling, trying to use "SERIAL KILLER" as a distraction, rather than try and suggest someone else is mafia. I'm kinda disappointed.

 

I'm just sad that JLM went to all this hard work to make a great game and its gonna be over in a couple days.

 

My second mafia game in here ended just few days ago, and it was a basic mafia. I was a serial killer. And I've never played a game with a Vig, so I'm not even completely sure how it works. So that's the reason for my thought of a SK (and I can't believe a basic would have two mafia teams either). And I think it's hardly a distraction as I didn't give any names :)

 

And I explained (or tried to, though you seem a bit bullheaded) my comments, if it's not enough, fair enough. Still I would FOS you for not wanting a controlled lynch yesterday.

 

Interesting how both Csarmi AND Kill said nearly the exact same thing, almost as if they cut/paste it from the mafia QT!

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I said this in the last basic game I was in, but the old standard setups (which we used to have to follow on this board for a standard game) included a setup with a vig, a setup with an SK, and a setup with 2 mafia teams. I know we don't have to follow those anymore, but my point is, I don't think it would be odd to see any of those elements in a basic game.

 

Kill, a vigilante is a town player who has a nk. Usually, it's just a one-shot nk. Sometimes they have more; I remember a game where the vig had 3. I can't imagine why a vig would get to kill every night, though, because the point is that they're trying to kill scum, so they wouldn't need more kills than the number of scum in the game. And even that seems a little excessive.

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That's why in Blackhoof's game, I thought we had a vig and not an SK - because only 2 night did we have 2 kills. I didn't realize I was just super lucky as the healer all the other nights :D

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  On 5/20/2011 at 8:17 PM, Myndrunner said:

 

  On 5/20/2011 at 6:42 PM, csarmi said:

Mynd, Deadly, I've got a question for you. Why didn't you vote for a controlled lynch yesterday, like 3 hours before deadline? FOS @ you both.

 

I felt Red was the better suggestion for lynching. I can't remember though, did she flip mafia when she was vig killed? Hmmm, maybe I was right about her and you all were wrong about Lily. Maybe you should be looking at who DID vote Lily instead, just sayin.

 

First of all, you're lying:

 

  On 5/18/2011 at 10:48 PM, Myndrunner said:

Oh, I have a lot of stuff to do before deadline so I'm gonna go with the majority, but I'm gonna make up some BS about having a lot of stuff to do before deadline to be the excuse for why I am bandwagoning.

 

 

Wait, that's LEELOU's plan, not mine.

 

unvote

 

vote Leelou

This is not a newbie game, Leelou. You are obviously trying to over-justify your vote pretending that you are just going along with the flow, but let's be honest...your guilty conscience is making you over-justify your vote. You REEK of scum!!!

 

THREE hours before the deadline.

 

Second, it does NOT matter that you were right about Red. It does NOT matter that Lily flipped town.

 

As town, you just don't risk a random lynch on day one. Not ever. Killing a vanilla townie is better than that.

 

Now you go switching votes when deadline's almost up.

 

You're scum.

 

Mynd

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First off, it's about time somebody killed that guy (that's personal sentiment spam, not game-related).

 

Vigilante or serial killer, we've got a second killer on the loose. Does it really matter which it is? They're both just as likely to kill townies as they are to kill scum. Even more so, actually, based on odds.

 

I don't want to bandwagon, so I'm not going after Kill now, not unless I find a good case for him. The case against Mynd seems solid enough, but that's just Mynd, as far as I can tell. He tends to jump around like water in a pan of hot oil.

 

Checked in for now, be back with some casework.

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Red's first Wall of Text is a short list of implications of other players. We have:

 

Amoondah

Christine

Quibby

 

The problem is that Red used joke votes to build her cases, which, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't really any use. The only case she even tried to build was for Christine.

 

Amoondah for voting Mynd based on the Snakes line of BS from last game (epic, by the way), and me for voting for Christine, trying to tie that to Lily's comment.

 

I'm disinclined to go after any of these three due to a dislike of suicide coupled with implications made by confirmed scum.

 

There is an interesting that whole thing, though. TinaHel targeted Lily for defending Christine's actions as those of a newbie. If Red's hiding scum in this, this seems a good place to start. It's not a direct accusation, but Lily's flipping innocent brings a question mark to my mind. It's not enough to vote on for me, but it's a start.

 

I do like Amoondah's FOS on key, Lily, kill, and Red. She's got 25% scum, 25% town. The other two are question marks.

 

I'm not sure what to make of trench's vote of Lily, either. He chose Lily for defending Red's No Lynch vote instead of Red for making the vote. Coming back for this one, potentially.

 

Kill also rings some weird bells here. First he defends Red's No Lynch, then he votes Lily "because we need a majority for lynch and because of those reasons that others have already stated." Sounds like an excuse for bandwagoning to me.

 

And then Amoondah comes in with another vote against Lily for defending the No Lynch vote. Again, why go after the defender instead of the person who made the vote?

 

Based on this, I have a short-list of three:

 

Amoondah

trench

Kill

 

Based on the above reasoning, I am not going to vote Amoondah. I don't think she's the one to go after yet.

 

that leaves trench and Kill.

 

Thoughts?

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Wall of Text crits Christine for all of the attention she has.

 

 

Anyways! I think you bring up some really good points Quib. I don't think Ahmoondah is the one to worry about though.

 

I AM NOT JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON but I am currently leaning towards Kill. Gonna give it another day before I pass a vote though, so Kill, if you want to not get my vote, start defending yourself instead of someone that turned out to be Mafia!

 

 

Also, I think Mynd was just being Mynd. Not really thinking he is Mafia, but he will be on my watch list.

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  On 5/21/2011 at 1:48 AM, Quibby said:

Kill also rings some weird bells here. First he defends Red's No Lynch, then he votes Lily "because we need a majority for lynch and because of those reasons that others have already stated." Sounds like an excuse for bandwagoning to me.

 

If you read my comment, about "defending" Red, you see it's more like "I understand Red" comment:

 

  On 5/18/2011 at 7:04 AM, killuliu said:

I don't really believe in Red being a mafia because of his "no lynch": I personally hate first day lynches too (as I've explained in every single game I've participated this far) and I think it wasn't that serious comment.

 

And explained myself a bit further:

 

  On 5/18/2011 at 3:03 PM, killuliu said:

"until something better presents itself." in the end of his comment makes it sound not that serious (well serious is wrong word): he doesn't want to vote without better information, so he votes against lynch instead. So if he gets more information he might vote something else. Or that's how I read it.

 

I know I'm going to get FOSed and blamed for bandwagoning for this, but I Vote Lily, because we need a majority for lynch and because of those reasons that others have already stated.

(Note: I'm talking about Red, even though it reads _"he" and "his" instead of "her" and "she")

Yes, I admitted bandwagoning, because we were getting closer to the DL and unlike some of you (it seems), I have learnt the lesson that it's better to have a controlled lynch (even if it's a townie) than random lynch. Random lynches have a nasty habits of hitting important characters of town, while controlled lynches tend to hit vanilla townies or mafias, because usually the one getting lynched has a chance of defending oneself.

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Wow you all aren't wasting anytime Day 2.

 

  On 5/21/2011 at 1:48 AM, Quibby said:

 

 

I'm not sure what to make of trench's vote of Lily, either. He chose Lily for defending Red's No Lynch vote instead of Red for making the vote. Coming back for this one, potentially.

 

 

 

So let me get this strait. Your suspicious of me because, I voted lily for defending Red, and your suspicious of Killu because he defended Red. So the only smart move was to hang back and allow a random lynch to go down. Why play Mafia, when you can just let other people do it, right? Well I dont play Mafia that way, I find the best candidate for scum and I vote that way. I dont hang back and let Random Lynches occur.

 

Well I explained myself once, let me go ahead and do it again. At the time Lily was our best option for a controlled Lynch, she defended Red, who was looking bad because of the No Lynch vote. But Red had not even defended herself at all yet, so I went for the person I felt was Mafia and who was viable for a controlled Lynch at that time. I admit I was wrong, and if I have to pay for it, so be it.

 

As for killu, the only evidence against him is him defending Red. But there was someone else who defended Red as well, who was that. oh yhea it was Leelou. What role did she have, was it finder or handing out candy to everyone, well either way it was a good one. I bet that if the Mafia had not killed her last night, it would be her at L-3 now and not Killu. So right now I am not going to vote because this Killu lynch has Mafia speed lynching written all over it.

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What other options do you have then, Trench? I'm unsure of the vote, too, but it's not like there's a whole lot of other options out there, unless you're volunteering, of course... :wink:

 

I'm accusing you and Kill because you chose to vote for the person who was defending a No Lynch instead of the person who initiated the No Lynch. I can't see the reasoning behind it.

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I can't quote on my phone, but that's 6 on killu. There are still a few people that haven't posted today. I'm away from my list but from memory; key and gmaster for sure, if you see 'em nudge 'em. If by chance we get a majority on the weekend I'll give those people who haven't checked in another RL day because I know some people aren't on on weekends and when a someone is lynched barely 48 hours into what is supposed to be a 72 hour or more day it shorts some people.

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