[Basic Mafia] Fiddleton - Game Over

[Niniel]

Ok, been waiting for the night to end so I could post my thoughts but now RL night is approaching so my brain is not working properly. I´m therefor not going to multiquote - you have to look for your self if you wish to examine this post.

 

1. Why Viera? - I have just looked through her posts briefly and what I understand her post is mostly conserned with Mynd. She questions him and want him to answer her questions wich he doesn´t. She also put a FOS on me and Phelix. Why do you think she was killed?

 

2. Mynds post # 162 - "If I go down don´t kill Csarmi" caught my eye. Isn´t it a good move to make if you are sure not to be nk? He "reveals" him self as town but what do we know? He is still alive and this post proovs nothing.

 

3. As you already have pointed out I thought Phelix "I thought Deadly was scum" was a realy strange thing to say since he never voted him in the first place.

 

4. Before all this (Vieiras dead and the night talking)I thought about Deadlys lynch. What can we learn (other than that we didn´t do a good job finding scum)? I have studied Tiinkers posts. He doesn´t have any own thoughts (cos they disappeard after Mynds funny picture) other than he thought Deadly was scum. In post #129 he is no longer sure that Deadly is scum but he didn´t unvote him. Is this a way to try distansing him self from Deadlys lynch? This is scummy.

 

5. The love affair between Mynd and Csarmi is worth looking at too.

 

In short - exuce me for this short post without quotes but I wanted to write it down cos I don´t know how much time I will have tomorrow. Feel free to question me and I will answer your questions when I get back. My current FOS-list is:

1. Tiinker

2. Phelix

3. Mynd and Csarmi

[Niniel]

I see GMaster posted while I wrote. Now I know your thoughts.

 

Btw Welcome back Deadly.

[Myndrunner]

My instincts were right in the first place everybody

 

VOTE MYND

 

This is almost laughable. Is this your first game, GameMaster? Usually, we like to place reasons next to our votes to keep things nice and tidy.

[Locke]

Is that a Finder claim GMaster?

[Mav]

I can guess what GM is saying, I'll await his response tho.

 

And wb deadly.

[GMaster479]

I would not be so dumb as to claim Finder/Cop after only N2. But I am most certain that based on what I know Mynd needs to start explaining himself...

 

@Mynd:

 

1. The G does not stand for Game

2. I've played plenty of mafia games before. First one on here

[Myndrunner]

I would not be so dumb as to claim Finder/Cop after only N2. But I am most certain that based on what I know Mynd needs to start explaining himself...

 

@Mynd:

 

1. The G does not stand for Game

2. I've played plenty of mafia games before. First one on here

 

Gangster Master? Garbage Master? Master Debater? Am I close?

 

I will be happy to explain myself. On what specifically do I need to explain?

 

Also, what do you mean by N2? If I was the Finder and I found a mafia player on Night 1 in a game this size I'd scream it from the rooftops. We'd still have a healer in play to protect me. Since I am not the finder, I'd like to ask for you to elaborate on what it is you know.

 

If given a thorough explanation and it is the will of the town to lynch me, so be it; however, if you are town, I caution you to reconsider your gameplay. When I flip town, you will likely be the next lynch and I don't think you have the chops to talk yourself out of it.

[Myndrunner]

......and Talya, if you are behind this, shame on you for sending a half-wit to take on the lord of chaos!

[danneric]

Locke is putting his bandwagon on because "he knew it wouldn't be final" but I can't think of a more scummy reason. Why vote Deadlyfriend if you didn't have a reason other than to follow the heard?

 

I'm telling everyone, Locke gave himself away with that vote. Switch your votes to him, and we can bag a scum on Day 1!

 

Ok this is the most scummiest thing i've ever heard. Why didn't he just vote me when i literaly through myself in front of the train. Like everyone else their arguments were pretty good. But why did he throw down the gauntlet at locke without even thinking of me? To me this sounds really scummy.

 

but i dont like the bandwagon thing, doesn't sit well with me at all. At least hive a half your effort to right a incomplete argument against someone getting voted. But he could be maffia trying to appease everyone by voting with whom they voted with. or he could have just had no care. Im really unsure about him. Im going to reread more of his posts.

[Talya]

"Master bater" you just wanted to get that in there didn't you Mynd...

 

Grand master or something? And Mynd you guessed I put GM up to it...*yawns*

 

I have to agree about the Vieria kill, why not subject (now deadly - wb btw), odd choice!

 

Everyone seems to be coming in gunning for Mynd, not sure what to make of it, but Mynd, you're not your usually self, are you getting worried, why no beating the grass?

 

I'll wait to hear more.

[csarmi]

When I am dead by the night kill tonight, don't go after CSARMI. The mafia were sitting in the back while we went back and forth. If he was truly mafia, he wouldn't have been as vocal as he was.

 

this sounds unnecessary

why would you be NK'd?

directing the healer?

[csarmi]

I ind Vieira's NK strange.

He was an obvious target for today's lynch with his disappearance and reluctance to vote at T-2 hours.

So why NK him when he would be likely to go down on the day?

[csarmi]

My net connection is shitty for some reason so I don't know how often I'll be online this weekend. Just thought you'd like to know.

[Tiinker]

"Master bater" you just wanted to get that in there didn't you Mynd...

 

Lolol! I didn't even realize that. Not all of us are so dirty minded talya >_>

I think Mynd has a point though. Before everyone jumps on him, I think we should all take a good look at Phelix

[Talya]

Yeah! I'm not willing just to jump on people...it never seems to work out too well for me.

 

I don't have a dirty mind at all...Tiinks, how could you say that!

 

Does that sound convincing...

[Locke]

I ind Vieira's NK strange.

He was an obvious target for today's lynch with his disappearance and reluctance to vote at T-2 hours.

So why NK him when he would be likely to go down on the day?

 

Hm? Maybe I'm forgetting details, but this seems strange to me. I personally thought the Vieira NK to be a logical choice. He wasn't around much during the day, and he wasn't under suspicion, thus not giving us town people any useful information from his death.

[Niniel]

Long day. Conference for nine hours! Just looked through the latest posts. First I see that Tiinker doesn´t say anything about my previous posts. Why not?

 

Second - I´m so sorry Vieira. I think I saw someone talking about you as a female but that´s my mistake. I could have called you worse things though...

 

Third - the following quotes:

 

 

My instincts were right in the first place everybody

 

VOTE MYND

 

 

Is that a Finder claim GMaster?

 

 

I would not be so dumb as to claim Finder/Cop after only N2. But I am most certain that based on what I know Mynd needs to start explaining himself...

 

@Mynd:

 

1. The G does not stand for Game

2. I've played plenty of mafia games before. First one on here

 

 

I would not be so dumb as to claim Finder/Cop after only N2. But I am most certain that based on what I know Mynd needs to start explaining himself...

 

@Mynd:

 

1. The G does not stand for Game

2. I've played plenty of mafia games before. First one on here

 

Gangster Master? Garbage Master? Master Debater? Am I close?

 

I will be happy to explain myself. On what specifically do I need to explain?

 

Also, what do you mean by N2? If I was the Finder and I found a mafia player on Night 1 in a game this size I'd scream it from the rooftops. We'd still have a healer in play to protect me. Since I am not the finder, I'd like to ask for you to elaborate on what it is you know.

 

If given a thorough explanation and it is the will of the town to lynch me, so be it; however, if you are town, I caution you to reconsider your gameplay. When I flip town, you will likely be the next lynch and I don't think you have the chops to talk yourself out of it.

 

Again, I don´t have much maffia experience but isn´t Locke doing some rolefishing here? I thought that was like a big no no. And then Mynd says that if he was finder and found scum he would reveal finder. Maybe that would be good - what do I know? But I think the only ones interested in knowing who the finder is is in fact maffia. On the other hand, the way GMaster posted his vote on Mynd was done in a strange way so I see why Locke asked... My head is just spinning around.

 

For now Locke will be on my FOS-list too but it´s growing quickly so soon I FOS more people than Mynd votes for!

 

Since I want to hear more from Tiinker I vote Tiinker.

[Talya]

It isn't usually the done thing to role fish, but when someone comes out and says what GM did, and they way he said it, made me think he was claiming finder, so I can understand Locke doing that.

 

I'm going to hav ea quick read through, but I have a report to hand in and The EMPY's to sort out by tomorrow! In fact two reports...*sighs*

[Myndrunner]

This is one of those classic of gambits, partly of which I suspect Talya to be mafia with GMaster and put him up to this.

 

I know I am town. I therefore know that GMaster is incorrect in saying that I am not town. If he claims to be finder and that he found me mafia, I would know that he is lying because I am not. At this point, the glasses are filled with the poison wine and we must choose from which to drink.

 

I will not fall into this trap, nor will the real finder bite on this notorious of ploys to lure the real finder out in the open. The real finder knows that GMaster is not the finder and I am content with that.

 

I do, however, believe that Talya is the one veteran on the mafia team and is not playing her normal aggressive style.

 

Talya

[Talya]

Whatever Mynd...I haven't put Gm up to anything because I'm not mafia...simple. If that was the case why didn't i jump on the vote, people seemed keen too. I'm waiting to see what happens, because may 'usual aggressive style' as you out it lost me the last two games, so lets just say I'm a bit reluctant to go diving in too quickly. Though I certianly haven't been quiet. As for not playing the usual game, you are very quiet today, so your play has changed, and yet you say you're town..

 

Personally if you are so sure that GM is lying (though he hasn't said he is finder) then why aren't you going after him...sounds off to me!

 

The way to solve it would be to go for you or GM.

[GMaster479]

Oh Mynd. Just give it up. You are mafia. But please, continue switching your vote onto other members of the town so we all know who they are.

 

@Tayla: You are right. Ending one of us would probably be smart for the town. I will be keeping my vote on Mynd for now

[Myndrunner]

Whatever Mynd...I haven't put Gm up to anything because I'm not mafia...simple. If that was the case why didn't i jump on the vote, people seemed keen too. I'm waiting to see what happens, because may 'usual aggressive style' as you out it lost me the last two games, so lets just say I'm a bit reluctant to go diving in too quickly. Though I certianly haven't been quiet. As for not playing the usual game, you are very quiet today, so your play has changed, and yet you say you're town..

 

Personally if you are so sure that GM is lying (though he hasn't said he is finder) then why aren't you going after him...sounds off to me!

 

The way to solve it would be to go for you or GM.

I'm going after you instead of GMaster because you are a veteran and more of a threat. To kill a dragon, you lop off its head not its fingernail. You've been town in the numerous past games you've been in, but now you've suddenly changed your style, what gives? It's like voting Democrat for ages then suddenly voting for Sara Palin. Such a radical shift in gameplay could only mean you are masking a guilty conscience.

 

GMaster's posts are ridiculous and have got to be embarrassing to his mafia team, so it is only natural that you swoop in to try and make sense of his ramblings. This quasi-failed attempt at pressuring the real finder to reveal is pathetic and I caution the real finder to not fall for GMaster's "unofficial yet official" finder hint.

 

A lynch on Talya would not only verify that I am right about GMaster, but we will be able to knock off two scum by Day 3.

[GMaster479]

Mynd the more you accuse me of being the inexperienced ridiculous noob the more you hurt your own defense.

[Myndrunner]

Mynd the more you accuse me of being the inexperienced ridiculous noob the more you hurt your own defense.

 

Defend against what exactly?

 

BTW, tell your mafia friend Talya that her precious radio show podcast is uploaded and ready for your virgin ears! Talya rambles on something about George RRRRRRR Martin's books and movies or something to that effect. Obviously a mafia plot.

[Tiinker]

4. Before all this (Vieiras dead and the night talking)I thought about Deadlys lynch. What can we learn (other than that we didn´t do a good job finding scum)? I have studied Tiinkers posts. He doesn´t have any own thoughts (cos they disappeard after Mynds funny picture) other than he thought Deadly was scum. In post #129 he is no longer sure that Deadly is scum but he didn´t unvote him. Is this a way to try distansing him self from Deadlys lynch? This is scummy.

 

Sorry, accidentally passed it by. My thoughts? I'm not going to bore everyone with a long long post, but in my opinion its Phelix who is coming off as the most scummy. His posts have pinged me and I've said so. Mynd seemed to be completely random in the beginning but from time to time I'm trying to view things from his point-of-view and its not totally crazy. I can see where he's coming from.

Why did I not unvote Deadly? There were 5 votes on him at the time and we needed 7. Since I wasn't sure, I decided to say it in the hope that someone would notice. What makes that more scummy than being one of the people that jumped on the vote without much argument? The whole "trying to make yourself seem innocent" idea again?