[Advanced Mafia] Black Ajah - GAME OVER!

[csarmi]

Now are we consolidating, or just playing along?

I'm eager to see how it all plays out. Never really understood how first day lynches work. I mean, nothing to work on, so what?

I've only played once so far and there it was easy. The first one to get attention almost got lynched. Then,on the second day, the player whose only fault was to post unbiased, thoughtful posts followed :)

[Tynaal Consen]

Wombat... Voting for me will not make me get a Bieber hairstyle. NOW STOP BEING SUCH FRIENDS WITH AUST

 

 

Uh.. I think I should move to hungry.. They don't know Bieber there \o/

 

 

 

 

On that note.

 

Vote Wombat

[csarmi]

Okay I feel I need to vote Wombat too. First, to protect that nice lady over there, second, to remove myself from Wombat's 'dont join bandwagons' list.

 

Now seriously, is Bieber a boy or a girl?

[csarmi]

vote Wombat

 

I always had a dream of voting Wombat anyway, ever since I saw that game with Halima.

[berf]

Wombat... Voting for me will not make me get a Bieber hairstyle. NOW STOP BEING SUCH FRIENDS WITH AUST

 

 

Uh.. I think I should move to hungry.. They don't know Bieber there \o/

 

 

 

 

On that note.

 

Vote Wombat

 

 

 

Bam. Got Proven Wrong?

[berf]

Oh and er... Mafia stuff.

[csarmi]

hides in the shadows and denies any connection to Hungary

[Tynaal Consen]

Berf, you actually googled Bieber?

 

SHAME ON YOU!

[berf]

I just heard a wild and unvalidated claim, and had to do my part for justice.

 

 

Reminds me of (person X's) vote, actually!

 

 

 

Insert person of interest into the brackes and voila! Instant serving.

[Alanna]

Vote Count:

Wombat (3) - Song, Tynaal, Csarmi

Blackhoof (1) - Berf

Drew (1) - Thorum

Aust (2) - Meesh, Krak

Krak (1) - Blackhoof

Meesh (1) - Leelou

Tynaal (1) - Wombat

 

Not Voting (8): Red, Curt, Aust, Player, Drew, Mav, Phelix, Talmanes

 

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Note: Currently no deadline.

 

Ideally, I won't actually set a deadline and you'll reach a lynch on your own. So, ahem, don't necessarily be waiting for a deadline before you decide to vote (which I realize is kinda the pot calling the kettle whatever, because I often wait until deadlines to vote, but... )

 

It's the weekend, so I'm not concerned about activity right now, but if it doesn't pick up soonish, I shall have to do something drastic!

[dapianoplay3r]

I hate day one. Its so messy!

VOTE RED

because you are first on the list of non voters

[Thorum]

Player, why not vote someone who already has at least one vote for him/her, instead of adding another name on that list?

 

I would so vote for you, if that wouldn't make my argument null.

[Phelix]

Vote Aust.

It seemed like the right thing to do. *shrug*

[Blackhoof]

i think that this game needs to get rolling. it is just day 1 so no-one has much to go on, so i shall place my vote against Wombat as a good place to start. if evidence to him not being scum appears, or of someone else being scum appears, i shall change my vote accordingly.

[Aust]

Vote Aust.

It seemed like the right thing to do. *shrug*

 

Phelix, why did this seem like the right vote for you to make? You've just placed the third vote on me, and not provided any reason for doing so.

[Phelix]

Vote Aust.

It seemed like the right thing to do. *shrug*

 

Phelix, why did this seem like the right vote for you to make? You've just placed the third vote on me, and not provided any reason for doing so.

 

 

Well, looking at the situation, there were two people with multiple votes against them and we have a Mod who is "encouraging" us to come to a conclusion. We need to consolidate on one person, and I don't see a reason to vote Wombat.

 

Beyond that, I think your comments about the Scum needing to move things along so they can get a NK are interesting. I just went through a game where the most "helpful" person ended up being the scummiest... it's made me suspicious of people trying to take the lead. You told Meesh you were doing it to provoke a response from the scum, but that doesn't sit right with me at the moment.

 

It's Day One, so my reasoning is very thin and light at the moment... but that's the nature of Day One, isn't it?

[Red2111]

checking in. sorry i'm late guys; i've been sick in bed since Wed night. if you want the fll sob story i'll be happy to share lol

 

 

effin allergies

[Aust]

 

Well, looking at the situation, there were two people with multiple votes against them and we have a Mod who is "encouraging" us to come to a conclusion. We need to consolidate on one person, and I don't see a reason to vote Wombat.

 

We do need to achieve a consensus, but we don't yet have a deadline, and there are a number of people we have yet to hear from. We still have a big opportunity to discuss things before rushing into a vote - day ones start to become informative as we move from our silly votes into more serious discussions.

Beyond that, I think your comments about the Scum needing to move things along so they can get a NK are interesting. I just went through a game where the most "helpful" person ended up being the scummiest... it's made me suspicious of people trying to take the lead. You told Meesh you were doing it to provoke a response from the scum, but that doesn't sit right with me at the moment.

 

It's Day One, so my reasoning is very thin and light at the moment... but that's the nature of Day One, isn't it?

 

To address this part I want to be clear - you stated that I suggested that the scum need to start the voting, but this is not what I posted. I wondered in my post if they would try to start it out given the unique rule in his game, and it was a comment truly designed to spur some conversation and take a bit of a poke at the scum - this has to be something thats making them feel very uncertain about how theyre going to play the game and i think we should exploit it to keep them off balance. And up until that point the most interesting topic had been Justin Bieber lol.

 

You're rigt to be wary of people trying to direct things early on bu really up until tha point I bad really just raisedthat one question. You jumped to a few conclusions in your post that were incorrect, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Day ones are actually not about voting for a flimsy reason- in my view they're about starting to gather information.

[Phelix]

Well, looking at the situation, there were two people with multiple votes against them and we have a Mod who is "encouraging" us to come to a conclusion. We need to consolidate on one person, and I don't see a reason to vote Wombat.

 

We do need to achieve a consensus, but we don't yet have a deadline, and there are a number of people we have yet to hear from. We still have a big opportunity to discuss things before rushing into a vote - day ones start to become informative as we move from our silly votes into more serious discussions.

 

It's the weekend, so I'm not concerned about activity right now, but if it doesn't pick up soonish, I shall have to do something drastic!

 

I'm quoting Alanna there, with some emphasis added. She hasn't set a deadline yet, but "soonish" is a rather vague term, isn't it? We aren't supposed to get a deadline. Alanna told us we should reach a lynch on our own without the benefit of a deadline to spur people.

 

Yes, there are people we haven't heard from, but what is there to discuss on the first day? Whose reference to pop stars was more offensive? Whether my use of a cereal box image was scummy?

 

Of course there is more to it than that, as this series of posts and replies demonstrates. But, there really isn't much to go on.

 

Beyond that, I think your comments about the Scum needing to move things along so they can get a NK are interesting. I just went through a game where the most "helpful" person ended up being the scummiest... it's made me suspicious of people trying to take the lead. You told Meesh you were doing it to provoke a response from the scum, but that doesn't sit right with me at the moment.

 

It's Day One, so my reasoning is very thin and light at the moment... but that's the nature of Day One, isn't it?

 

To address this part I want to be clear - you stated that I suggested that the scum need to start the voting, but this is not what I posted. I wondered in my post if they would try to start it out given the unique rule in his game, and it was a comment truly designed to spur some conversation and take a bit of a poke at the scum - this has to be something thats making them feel very uncertain about how theyre going to play the game and i think we should exploit it to keep them off balance. And up until that point the most interesting topic had been Justin Bieber lol.

 

I wasn't quoting you, I was paraphrasing, and I think my statement was accurate enough.

 

You're rigt to be wary of people trying to direct things early on bu really up until tha point I bad really just raisedthat one question. You jumped to a few conclusions in your post that were incorrect, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Day ones are actually not about voting for a flimsy reason- in my view they're about starting to gather information.

 

I did not jump to any conclusions, other than of the people posting you seem the most scummy at the moment. Though, I feel that's more of a judgment than a conclusion. I did not say Day Ones were about voting for flimsy reasons. I said that my reasoning was thin and light at the moment, because at this point there really isn't much information to go on. Because it's a Day One there really isn't much to go on. We haven't seen a lynch, so all we can go on is what people are saying at the moment. It's light evidence, thin and flimsy.

[csarmi]

I would defend Aust.

 

I wonder why is it that people who post some meaningful, thought-provoking posts (on town side) are picked.

Last game I saw, first two guys who pointed out such things (game logic) got the lynch. The first one (me) got out of the lynch only by claiming his role and the second one (Tina) was killed. (Alliance Intervention)

 

Is it because the Maffia tends to pick on them, or just that those people get the attention and day 1 lynches are either random, or on the guys getting most spotlight? I don't know, I haven't got much experience with it.

 

Is it always like this?

 

Now I might just be wrong and Aust may be a good pick for a lynch, but I can't help but sympathize with him as I experienced the same.

 

Also, I'd rather that people who post something other than 'Justin Bieber' stay alive. More interesting to play with.

 

Just my two cents.

[Red2111]

lol Well upset is a little strong, but yes. I dislike Perrin. I read my PM and then cracked up for like 5 mins. I was like of course I would get one of the characters I highly dislike. But I guess I was lucky it wasn't Faile, I probablywould've killed myself then

 

at least he didn't have you searchign for Faile half of the game

 

 

I actually don't like Aust's point; it seems set up to cast suspicion on whoever the first person is to vote for serious reasons, which doesn't seem like a Light-loving move to me. Black Ajah getting all ready to point fingers? Just might be.

 

i thought this as well when i saw Austs comment. smells like scum attempting to set up a future lynch.

 

 

Wow Krak, bandwagon much? Don't want to miss that lynch, do you?

 

he was a 2nd vote on you ... doesn't really count as a bandwagon. over reation much drew??

 

 

Phelix, willing to sign a truce? If you unvote me, I'll unvote you :)

 

That's fair.

 

UNVOTE Csarmi.

 

open tema work on the thread. making alliances with eachother already *shakes head* leave it for the QT boys

 

 

 

To address this part I want to be clear - you stated that I suggested that the scum need to start the voting, but this is not what I posted. I wondered in my post if they would try to start it out given the unique rule in his game, and it was a comment truly designed to spur some conversation and take a bit of a poke at the scum - this has to be something thats making them feel very uncertain about how theyre going to play the game and i think we should exploit it to keep them off balance. And up until that point the most interesting topic had been Justin Bieber lol.

 

You're rigt to be wary of people trying to direct things early on bu really up until tha point I bad really just raisedthat one question. You jumped to a few conclusions in your post that were incorrect, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Day ones are actually not about voting for a flimsy reason- in my view they're about starting to gather information.

 

 

i don't see how this will make the scum feel very uncertain about how they'll play or keep them off balance. typically you can expect the scum to jump on a lynch (especially if the lynchee is innocent). all this will do is create a mad rush to vote at the end by the scum and to push harder for people their team is on to be lynched.

 

 

your original comment instead seemed to make it look like you intended to FOS anyone ho started a vote on someone who eventually got lynched. you seem to assume that scum will be those people reluctant to vote; where imo the scum will be those people most egar to vote and cast doubt on those who are voting.

[Phelix]

I wonder why is it that people who post some meaningful, thought-provoking posts (on town side) are picked.

Last game I saw, first two guys who pointed out such things (game logic) got the lynch. The first one (me) got out of the lynch only by claiming his role and the second one (Tina) was killed. (Alliance Intervention)

 

Point of fact, Csarms m'man, you got out of the lynch by claiming my role. You weren't gainsaid by anyone, but it wasn't your role you claimed.

 

As to the meat of your post, I do agree from what I've seen, the people who draw the spotlight to them do get targeted sooner than the people who are silent. It's much easier to build a case against someone when they have posts. If you're trying to lynch someone who has been mostly silent (or talking about Bieber) all you've got is their lack of content... and a lack of evidence isn't a very strong case.

 

I think there is much more reason to vote for Aust than there is to vote for Wombat. Would you care to share your reasoning for that vote?

[DrewRiley]

I think Aust's comment was the thing that has made this game start slowly - he wondered if mafia would jump to start voting because they had to get on board a lynch. I think just saying that, though it was obvious, has kept all the mafia from voting. They don't want to fall into that category. I don't blame Aust for this, because it kind of set up a neat trap. Maybe there's some scum hiding in that list of people who haven't voted? I don't know, but I'm going to vote Talmanes for now, for those reasons.

[Aust]

Phelix thanks for responding, I do see some of where you're coming from, but we'll agree to disagree on the accuracy of your paraphrasing.

 

And thanks Csarmi for supporting the idea of some discussion on day one. Usually I play it pretty safe on day one and say very little until I see a safe opportunity tocomment and cast my vote - precicely because it puts you at a lot of risk for standing out. But in the past few games I've played, inactivity has been really bad, so I thought I'd try a different approach to things today. At least we have (mostly) moved on from Bieber lol!

 

Again I will say hat our best tool against the mafia in this game is to use their discomfort about the lynch rule. If others have different thoughts on this, I'd love to hear them!

[Phelix]

Phelix, willing to sign a truce? If you unvote me, I'll unvote you :)

 

That's fair.

 

UNVOTE Csarmi.

 

open tema work on the thread. making alliances with eachother already *shakes head* leave it for the QT boys

 

It's not teamwork so much as a Mexican stand-off.