Russian Devil Hotel - Game Thread (ON)

[Myndrunner]

Mynd or Krak. I'm good with either and I have my vote on Mynd at the moment. What's the consensus?

 

Why are you taking the heat off of other possibilities here? You make a number of false assumptions. Check my facts, prove me wrong in this:

 

1) Lynching one of us does not confirm the alignment of the other.

 

2) We were both confirmed innocent at our deaths. Sure, it is POSSIBLE that one or both of us have changed, but I can speak for myself in that I remain innocent. Why risk lynching a previously confirmed innocent because they MIGHT have changed alignment we we KNOW the game started with more than one mafia player?

 

3) There are other players who have not been confirmed either way that continue to show scum behavior. With 9 players total, we are cutting it pretty close to take that chance.

 

Lets assume that Krak AND myself have both been converted to mafia. Well, then we would be in much worse shape than assumed in that the ratio of mafia to innocents is a lot closer than we thought.

 

I am also not ruling out the possibility that there may be a recruiting mafia at play here. Yes, the tentacles seem likely, but would that work on a ghost? No! If I were a recruiting mafia player, I would go after the two players who were all but confirmed innocent on Day 1.....

 

....namely Aemon Kitten and AlannaLynn!

 

Scum or not....(im not in case you are still wondering)....but scum or not, do my points make sense? Prove otherwise!

[Aust]

All the people who used to do vote counts are dead :p

 

 

 

Current Vote Count:

 

Verb ( 1 ) - Mynd

 

Mynd (1) - Aemon

 

Redust (1) - T&M, Aust

 

 

Not voting: Verbal, Redust, Wombat, Alana, Krak,

 

 

 

Less than 24 hours and not much action here :p I'm content to leave my vote on Redust just now. Aemon it's a hard decision to make - I agree that Mynd has been acting scummy, but I'm not entirely sure it's any less than what got him lynched day one when he was confirmed innocent. The best I have to go on right now is Redust's erratic posting, and Wombat's uncharacteristic lurking. Verbal I'm undecided on.

 

 

While I'm not about to start defending Mynd, I can't also say he's definitely been converted (as he was town at some point at least) and I'm not ready to lynch him when our numbers are so low.

 

We need more discussion on this. Do people think I'm a better lynch? We've lynched Krak and Kivam was NKed. We at least still have Krak available to speak, but Kiv is gone. If we lynch me, I would assume I'd be like Krak and still be able to participate? If so, then I won't be against a lynch on me to let the coroner confirm me. BUT, I want to make sure it is in the town's favor before I'd accept that.

 

Verby do you really believe that we can just lynch town and just have them come back to the game with no negative consequences? I've said it before but it bears repeating - something doesn't seem right about both Mynd and Krak being able to resume play like nothing ever happened. I would assume the same would happen to you if we lynched you, and I'm surprised you'd suggest it.

[alannalynn]

I'm here, I had to work close last night and then this morning too. And I'm not certain I'll be clearheaded enough to think tomorrow (I'm working 10am to 3pm, then 10pm to 3am), but if I had to lean anywhere at the moment it's still Redust. I think I'm going to look back just a little bit, because there's something I don't quite trust about Mynd, but Redust is giving me a different scummy feeling. I'm pretty confused at the moment.

 

For now: Mynd, what are your thoughts on Redust?

 

(I hate to say it, but I'm finding myself agreeing with you way too much Aust, I hope you're more clearheaded than me)

[DPR]

A little over 18 hours to go.

[aemonkristen]

Mynd or Krak. I'm good with either and I have my vote on Mynd at the moment. What's the consensus?

 

Why are you taking the heat off of other possibilities here? You make a number of false assumptions. Check my facts, prove me wrong in this:

 

1) Lynching one of us does not confirm the alignment of the other.

 

2) We were both confirmed innocent at our deaths. Sure, it is POSSIBLE that one or both of us have changed, but I can speak for myself in that I remain innocent. Why risk lynching a previously confirmed innocent because they MIGHT have changed alignment we we KNOW the game started with more than one mafia player?

 

3) There are other players who have not been confirmed either way that continue to show scum behavior. With 9 players total, we are cutting it pretty close to take that chance.

 

Lets assume that Krak AND myself have both been converted to mafia. Well, then we would be in much worse shape than assumed in that the ratio of mafia to innocents is a lot closer than we thought.

 

I am also not ruling out the possibility that there may be a recruiting mafia at play here. Yes, the tentacles seem likely, but would that work on a ghost? No! If I were a recruiting mafia player, I would go after the two players who were all but confirmed innocent on Day 1.....

 

....namely Aemon Kitten and AlannaLynn!

 

Scum or not....(im not in case you are still wondering)....but scum or not, do my points make sense? Prove otherwise!

 

1) I never said that it would. I said you and he have died and come back, you are acting scummy and DPR made a scene of tentacles animating dead flesh

 

2) See 1

 

3) So following a lead on a scum that has been recruited is a waste of time? Convenient for the recruited scum.

 

The bolded section) How else would you animate the dead flesh? That statement was so far below your intelligence it just seems you are scrambling for any reason not to be lynched, whether it makes sense or not. I don't believe you are town anymore, Mynd, and my vote stays where it is.

[Toy and Minion]

If everyone else want's to risk the lynch, I can go with Mynd or Krak. But until then, I'm sticking with Redust.

[WWWwombat]

I don't like any of these choices. I am getting town reads from Verb and Redust and Mynd flipped innocent when we lynched him before.

[Verbal32]

Verby do you really believe that we can just lynch town and just have them come back to the game with no negative consequences? I've said it before but it bears repeating - something doesn't seem right about both Mynd and Krak being able to resume play like nothing ever happened. I would assume the same would happen to you if we lynched you, and I'm surprised you'd suggest it.

 

I don't know. Most of the reason I suggested it was to see who jumped at the idea. Nobody really has. I'm still wondering if it was a good or bad idea.

 

The case on Redust doesn't seem very strong, and the one on Wombat is metagaming. I'm inclined to vote neither, but that means basically voting for Mynd. I'm starting to get the feeling he's a misguided townie.

 

Ok, I've decided myself for now. Lynch me. I want to see what happens. Based on precedent, I'll stay around.

 

Vote Verbal

[Aust]

The case against Wombat is more than just meta-gaming. He hasn't even attempted to provide anything constructive throughout the whole game - he once voted without providing any reason and aside from this he's just flitted in to toss a vote along with the majority. And he only tends to pop up when his name is mentioned. That looks like a scum riding the current.

 

The logic for lynching you Verbal doesn't stack up. This sounds like something a scum would propose hoping that someone will start to argue that it would be a really bad idea to lynch you (which would be quite clever- kudos if that's your idea). If you were town we wouldn't learn any more from you than we have from Mynd and Krak, which is basically nothing.

[alannalynn]

Verbal, I don't see how "lynch me, I'll tell you what happens" is in any way helpful. It just makes you a third person for whatever unknown thing is happening when we lynch. And what if you actually get lynched and we lose a townie? I see too many problems with it to be comfortable voting you. I believe I've either already stated my reasons for voting Redust and/or agreed with others' reasonings.

 

Redust

[WWWwombat]

That's a pretty obvious mischaracterization, Aust. I wasn't on the Mynd lynch and when I voted for Krak, everything was tied at 1-1-1-1. I did vote with what was a plurality at the time on the Song lynch but she was finder outed scum so that whole lynch is a null tell for anyone other than Aemon.

 

I haven't seen any legit reasoning behind any of the votes on Redust. That wagon looks like a case of "lynch the noob" to me.

 

Also, the fact that Aust wants Redust lynched makes me wary of that wagon. I don't believe in no lynches though, so if it's Redust or bust then I'll vote Redust. What time is the deadline?

[WWWwombat]

I see we have just under 5 hours. I will be back on in less than 3.

[aemonkristen]

Time Is running out and we still have 5 peoPle not voting. What is going on here? Mynd did make a good point qbout who the remaining scum might be,regardless of my suspicions of his alignment, and I have to wonder how many mafia we started this game with. Because of the tentacle thing it appears there is a recruiter, but is it the same mafia team with q 1 shot recruiting ability, or is it a cult? I tend to think the former the more likely situation due to the game mechanics we have seen. We have only taken out 1 scum. Of the 5 listed by Mynd, how many of those could be scum?

[Myndrunner]

I've presented what I feel is the best action. For that, I am accused of being anti-town. Many of the other players are just twisting their braids, saying "this person looks scummy" but never backing it up with logic. I had written off Alannalynn and Aemon as innocent because of their initial reveals, but if there is a recruiter, then that nulls their innocence.

 

At this point, we need to get a majority or we loose big time. Redust has 3 votes already. Allow me to bring it to 4. Just not sure he is the one we should be lynching, but I am not confident anyone will listen to me anymore.

 

unvote

 

vote Redust

 

Misguided Townie, Verbal? How about the one who plans his own suicide just to see what happens? Although, if you are scum, that's a good way to appear innocent. Perhaps Songs was right about you?

[WWWwombat]

Redust has had ample time to defend himself and I probably won't be back before deadline, so

 

Vote Redust

[DPR]

What happened to my post? Arrggghhh, I don't have time to re-write it -

 

Dusty, Town, is dead.

 

Krak, Town, is dead.

 

An action has been triggered.

 

It is now night.

[Toy and Minion]

Fudnuggets.

[Sir Redust]

Well that sucks.

[Myndrunner]

Now that this has occurred, can everyone please read what I have to say. Call me scum, I don't care, but read what I say and see if it makes sense.

 

1) There cannot be a recruiting mafia or we would have already lost with that last lynch. We've dropped to 7 players and even losing Song, the mafia would have gained three new players by now.

 

2) If there was a cult, then they already have a majority and anyone not already recruited has already lost. Would DPR still let the game run at this point? Possibly, but then there is nothing we can do and the cult can then reveal itself without penalty. Ergo Sum Latte, there is no cult.

 

3) The game likely started with three mafia players. Songs was one and when lynched, turned into a monster. This may happen with the other two mafia players which is why we cannot take that risk on wild assumptions.

 

4) As we have seen, the tentacles in a player seem to connect them, as with Lily's death after Hybrid and Songs croaked. Could there be other connections?

 

5) AeomonKitten and AlannaLynn, in my opinion, are the least likely to be scum because both of them revealed their one-shot powers before it was common knowledge that we all had them....all of us innocent players that is.

 

6) Believe me or not, I am innocent. Krak's death should also strengthen this argument, but not completely validate my claim.

 

So then, look at this list of remaining players.....you know who you are. Who among these are the remaining scum?

 

Wwwwwombat

Toy and Minion

Aust

Verbal

Myndrunner

AlannaLynn

AemonKitten

 

I think we should strongly consider lynching Verbal in the morning. He has not been acting like a town player and has been defensive rather than investigative. He tries to discredit what is said and deflect rather than try to provide the town with any logical information. He even withheld info from us in order to see my lynch through, knowing that if he revealed any info it might be more convincing.

 

Verbal, please show me where I am wrong in the above statement?

[Krakalakachkn]

dammit. Go town!

[aemonkristen]

I still think Mynd needs to go. My other suspects are Aust and Toy. Aust because of his push on Redust and Toy...well I forget right now, but I'll give you a reason soon. Something seemed odd. I just have to back and find it. On my phone right now.

[DPR]

And out of nowhere, a high-pitched scream rings out. It was in the back hall, only moments ago, but the ragged gasps lead you to the library where she is halfway suspended form the cileing by some...thing.

 

Tentacles wrap around her, poisoned yellow drops falling from barbs not yet embedded in her skin, and golden eyes regard you in disdain.

 

"Kill it! Take it down!"

 

And you do. You grab a handful of slimy tentacles and tear the thing form the cieling. You vent your rage, unleashing pent up anger and reaing blow after blow upon it.

 

In the end, there are two bodies laying dead at your feet.

 

one is ALANNA. The other is WOMBAT.

 

It is now day.

 

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[aemonkristen]

All right. Alanna and Wombat. One scum and I'm guessing the other is innocent. How did this happen? I'm even going to venture a guess. I am still pushing Mynd as a good lynch candidate seeing as how he is the only lynched-yet-living player left on the board. I just wish we knew who the scum was. I am thinking Alanna because of the way Mynd kept throwing her name out as town.

 

Wes, is it day or night now?

[alannalynn]

Bah humbug! (LOL thanks for the name fix)

[Myndrunner]

All right. Alanna and Wombat. One scum and I'm guessing the other is innocent. How did this happen? I'm even going to venture a guess. I am still pushing Mynd as a good lynch candidate seeing as how he is the only lynched-yet-living player left on the board. I just wish we knew who the scum was. I am thinking Alanna because of the way Mynd kept throwing her name out as town.

 

Wes, is it day or night now?

 

Wait a minute. By this logic, since I have been throwing your name around as innocent too, you should be scum. Does that make sense?

 

Unless this whole time Wwwwwombat has been a female, it is clear from the description that Alanna was innocent in that interaction.

 

Second, how do you know for sure that only one was innocent and only one was scum? Couldn't both be innocent?

 

Could my gut have been right this whole time? Could I have pegged AK as scum on Day 1? How did AK know about the one shot powers when he revealed?

 

Time for the rest of the remaining 5 players to chime in. TaM, Verb, and Aust.