Russian Devil Hotel - Game Thread (ON)

[alannalynn]

I've been laying low obviously, and doing a reread of my own to see what I can catch, though Kivam has had some good points that I've missed. As for Krak: Mynd summed up my final reason to want to vote for him:

Ok then we definitely lynch Krak. He thinks the Song n Mynd WIFOM is ridiculous yet uses its logic to justify the lynch on Verbal.

Krak agrees with Kivam saying that believing dead mafia is useless, then says let's vote Verbal?! Um. Yeah, good job with your logic again there.

 

Though apparently the hammer has been cast, and Redust hammering again has shot him up further on my list. Ever heard of the preview button? Preview and check the last post before jumping on someone.

 

Edit after preview: Sorry Krak, you were contradicting, unfortunately.

[Sir Redust]

I did preview before I posted. Must have just missed Toys post.

[Toy and Minion]

Apparently no one can die by being lynched in this game. It is however, from what I've seen, the only way to get alignment. Apart from viewings, of course.

 

Interensting set up, Wes-minster.

[Myndrunner]

I have not yet been notified if I can communicate with Krak or not. Krak or myself will likely let everyone know once (if) we are able. At least I am fairly more confident that Song was telling the truth, at least partially. Jury is still out on Kivam, but I'm pretty sure that Verbal is the one to look at in the morning.

 

As everyone is aware, it's always good to see not only who is scum but who are working together. While some of what Sir Redust's actions have been questionable, I don't see who he has been working with to suggest his mafia team.

 

I think we can safely rule AemonKitten and AlannaLynn out as being mafia.

[alannalynn]

And apparently I'm unable to read, he survived the lynch; that IS interesting.

 

Need I ask why Aemon and I are cleared, Mynd? I think it's safe to say Kivam probably still disagrees about me.

[Myndrunner]

And apparently I'm unable to read, he survived the lynch; that IS interesting.

 

Need I ask why Aemon and I are cleared, Mynd? I think it's safe to say Kivam probably still disagrees about me.

 

Let's not forget that Aemon and Alannalynn are the first two that declared one shot powers back when it wasn't common knowledge that we all have them (or in my case, HAD them).

[DPR]

A stone-faced visage stares slack in death until the tentacles underneath its skin animate some expression, and It's unnatural, but who will come out and say so? It triggers an atavistic response deep within you, feeling something poisonous and unwanted, but will you heed its warning?

 

Feel my heart. Touch it, because you can. Revel in what it has to offer, because you want to, and sink your teeth into it because you cannot resist...

You wake up covered in sweat. It's still dark outside.

 

A crash comes from outside your room, but you don't move. Instead, you play a game in your mind...

 

If it doesn't happen again, maybe everything will be alright...

But what's done is done, and this thing is done in nines. You may fall back asleep, but that part of you that whispers impending danger knows better than to rest.

 

A scraping sound drags down the hallway, but It's hardly loud enough to notice...

[aemonkristen]

A stone-faced visage stares slack in death until the tentacles underneath its skin animate some expression,

 

That's enough to make me believe that at least one of our lynched but not dead players is no longer town aligned.

[alannalynn]

So like I read that scene while at work... thanks for making me freak out and watch out the windows into the darkness. >_> Great.

 

It does sound like the mafia got one.

[Verbal32]

42) And this one from Verbal (VERBAL: why were you buying into an "Aemon or Mynd" mentality here?)

 

Because without a consolidation of votes, there is no real pressure. Without real pressure, there is no information gained. Besides, I'll admit I was also looking forward to the night phase to see if I had a ghost role. Those 2 were ok lynches from a townie viewpoint, so I went along with it.

 

This is where I call complete BS! You didn't just go along with the lynch on me, you were PUSHING for it! SO much so that you purposely withheld your opinion on other players just so you could see me (an innocent) lynched. You refused to share any information with the town and then when I kept pressing you on it (to this moment in fact) you still have yet to reveal anything.

 

You pushed the lynch on me and then pretended that you had other people in mynd as well, but when called out on revealing it, you kept silent. Either you are a dangerous townie who got an innocent player lynched by withholding your thoughts, or you are scum and wanted to see a dangerous player gone.

 

I think Verbal might be the better of the two lynches. unvote

 

I don't need messages from beyond the grave to see this...

 

Verbal is scum!

 

*sigh* Mynd, I already told you what I was keeping back. Just the same old stuff we had been talking about that day, but I didn't want to just add the same stuff, so I went with the best lynch TO ME. I'm not going to repeat that again. Please remember it this time and stop repeating yourself. I did not "push" for your lynch, I agreed and went along. Have fun trying to prove otherwise.

 

And wanting to see a "dangerous" player gone in you? Yeah, because if you are town still, you are doing the mafia's work for them. That is dangerous, and you know it. You've been called out on this several times. The fact that you won't listen is quite interesting.

 

 

FINALLY! Someone comes out with a smart reason not to just play the lynch, flip, and respond game. I think it's ridiculous Mynd even suggested it.

 

 

At the moment, I suggest we string up the Ewok.

 

Um, Krak, a few people have said this already....and this might be the third time Kiv has stated it in this game alone. Keep up.

[DPR]

Calculating, logical, re-read and pull it apart. Dissect the information and the truth shall be revealed.

 

Posts scroll down Kivam's screen, but it's not the words that have captured his attention. It's the reflection of a poison filled tentacled rising behind him. He turns...but it's too late.

 

KIVAM HAS BEEN KILLED, AND IS QUITE DEAD.

 

It is day.

 

With 9 players, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Kivam]

Calculating, logical, re-read and pull it apart. Dissect the information and the truth shall be revealed.

 

Posts scroll down Kivam's screen, but it's not the words that have captured his attention. It's the reflection of a poison filled tentacled rising behind him. He turns...but it's too late.

 

KIVAM HAS BEEN KILLED, AND IS QUITE DEAD.

 

It is day.

 

With 9 players, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Gah. Told you so. Go town.

[Myndrunner]

42) And this one from Verbal (VERBAL: why were you buying into an "Aemon or Mynd" mentality here?)

 

Because without a consolidation of votes, there is no real pressure. Without real pressure, there is no information gained. Besides, I'll admit I was also looking forward to the night phase to see if I had a ghost role. Those 2 were ok lynches from a townie viewpoint, so I went along with it.

 

This is where I call complete BS! You didn't just go along with the lynch on me, you were PUSHING for it! SO much so that you purposely withheld your opinion on other players just so you could see me (an innocent) lynched. You refused to share any information with the town and then when I kept pressing you on it (to this moment in fact) you still have yet to reveal anything.

 

You pushed the lynch on me and then pretended that you had other people in mynd as well, but when called out on revealing it, you kept silent. Either you are a dangerous townie who got an innocent player lynched by withholding your thoughts, or you are scum and wanted to see a dangerous player gone.

 

I think Verbal might be the better of the two lynches. unvote

 

I don't need messages from beyond the grave to see this...

 

Verbal is scum!

 

*sigh* Mynd, I already told you what I was keeping back. Just the same old stuff we had been talking about that day, but I didn't want to just add the same stuff, so I went with the best lynch TO ME. I'm not going to repeat that again. Please remember it this time and stop repeating yourself. I did not "push" for your lynch, I agreed and went along. Have fun trying to prove otherwise.

 

And wanting to see a "dangerous" player gone in you? Yeah, because if you are town still, you are doing the mafia's work for them. That is dangerous, and you know it. You've been called out on this several times. The fact that you won't listen is quite interesting.

 

 

FINALLY! Someone comes out with a smart reason not to just play the lynch, flip, and respond game. I think it's ridiculous Mynd even suggested it.

 

 

At the moment, I suggest we string up the Ewok.

 

Um, Krak, a few people have said this already....and this might be the third time Kiv has stated it in this game alone. Keep up.

 

First things last. It appears that you are the one who needs to keep up. Krak paid for those crimes and was lynched, yet is undead. I am waiting to hear back from him in the netherworld *pours tea* but other than some shaky responses, he's a townie brownie. As it turns out, the quote that you cited was the very thing that convinced most of us that he was scum. He denounced my communication with Song and yet used it as justification to lynch you. Quite contradictory so fast forward later, the noose wraps around Krak's neck....but doesn't crack his neck.

 

Now then, as far as you going along, that's not quite a lie but there is a big difference in going along with something and refusing to consider any other option. You've said it yourself in other games, townies don't withhold suspicions and you cannot deny that if you were afraid that your other considerations might be a distraction, then the case on me must be pretty weak in comparison.

 

As far as this whole "you are doing the mafia's work for him" actually that applies to you. By not actively scum hunting and holding back on evidence, shoe-horning lynches without presenting alternatives is exactly what the mafia wish to do. So far, you have added NOTHING to this game to help the town. Are we really supposed to consider what I've done more scummish than your actions?

 

Now then, this business with Song. Kivam's death seems to be at the hands of the same "creature" that Song had been (tentacles). I would venture to guess that Kivam was innocent since it seems he was killed by whatever is considered the mafia.

 

That leaves Verbal. He has withheld information on possible lynches so that he could see to an innocent lynch. He's attacking innocent players (Krak and myself) rather than trying to help us figure out who is scum. Distraction and discreditation, these are the ways of the mafia.

 

Verbal

 

Please give us a better candidate to lynch....and convince me. Convince me, Verbal. Tell me every last detail. Who is Kaiser Soze?

[Toy and Minion]

I have to agree with the assessment that Kivam was town due to the tentacles.

 

Of the three players listed by Mynd "via Song", Verbal is the only unknown. Krak's innocence lends slight more weight, but not enough for me to vote him.

 

I'm going to go through Kivam's casing again, and perhaps continue it. I'm only on lunch, however, so you won't see this until later tonight.

[aemonkristen]

Here's something that has been bugging me...why did people vote Krak in the first place? Mynd is trying to convince us that Song "let something slip" so he goes after the one she called townie? That didn't sit well with me at the time and even less now that Kivam has been taken down by tentacles. I keep coming back to the tentacle-animating-dead-flesh thing. I am going under the assumption that either Krak or Mynd or both have undergone an alignment change. Mynd has been doing e actor the opposite of what a townie should do ever since he came back. He has taken the word of a known scum as the gospel truth, pushed for a lynch on someone he believed to be town (supposedly) because of the "slip", has had another person on that "slip" all but proven innocent by getting tentacles to death and now wants to lynch the other person mentioned in"the slip". I don't buy it.

[DPR]

Current Vote Count:

 

Verb ( 1 ) - Mynd

With 9 players, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Krakalakachkn]

If my alignment changes, it would have to be after I died. And since I've posted maybe 3 posts since I've died, I would find it hard to believe you could get an anti-town read on me so quickly.

[Krakalakachkn]

oh and people voted me because they didn't understand my response to Hybrid's big post.

[alannalynn]

Didn't understand? I think you've been wishy washy all game, despite any Town you may have in you.

 

Aemon brings up a good point though, about Mynd, but then again Song said Krak was town, is Mynd supposed to believe her word or disbelieve it? I think I'll go with ignoring it completely and looking at the players not the word of scum.

[Aust]

People voted for you for a lot of reasons that were all presented yesterday- I don't think we're going to gain much by reiterating all of that. What Aemon was getting at is that something weird is happening to people who are lynched, and with the way Mynd has been posting it bears watching.

 

It also seems likely that Kivam was onto something- if he was just talking us all in circles the mafia would have left him alone hoping he'd confuse everyone or end up looking suspicious.

[aemonkristen]

Or they took him out to give his recapore credibility. DPR made a post of tentacles animating dead flesh. As far as I can see our choices are lynch one of he undead right now or wait and see if someone comes back during the night phase. I say we take out Mynd for acting about as antitown as possible since coming back.

[Myndrunner]

Or they took him out to give his recapore credibility. DPR made a post of tentacles animating dead flesh. As far as I can see our choices are lynch one of he undead right now or wait and see if someone comes back during the night phase. I say we take out Mynd for acting about as antitown as possible since coming back.

 

How exactly have I been acting anti town? I presented what was told to me by Song to the group, where everyone can take or leave it. Krak's lynch was to be expected based on his behavior, a number of reasons, but mostly because he dismissed what was told to me by Song as nonsense and then used that very piece of information to justify a vote on Verbal.

 

I'm pretty sure you and Alannalynn are innocent based on the whole one-shot power reveal. It wasn't common knowledge at that point so the two of you revealing as such suggests strongly that the two of you are town.

 

Verbal, on the other hand, has not been acting pro-town this entire game. We can forget all about what Song did or didn't mean by her communication with me in the netherworld.....Verbal still comes up as scum.

[Myndrunner]

Interesting.....I received a "whisper" from the Mod that I was targeted by two players last night.

 

If this is the case, then that brings up quite a few questions.

 

1) More than one player had a power to use last night. Was this a one-shot power that was saved until last night?

 

2) It could not have been the mafia since Kivam's death is likely at the hands of said mafia. (See tentacles)

 

3) I have no power other than that at night, kills would be a waste on me. During the day, its a much different story. I did not target myself.

 

Since I didn't use a power on myself last night and the mafia likely targeted Kivam, then two non-mafia players targeted me. I would like for the two players who targeted me to come forward, thus clearing your names as well as my own, since one of you was likely a finder.

 

That would eliminate 3 players as potential scum, so we can focus on the remaining players. Make sense?

[Aust]

Mynd are you sure that the only powers among the mafia are to NK? That would seem unlikely to me. Although with your recent behaviour I could understand why someone would investigate you. It really was too difficult to get clear details on your conversation with Song, and I don't believe you'd think it was a good idea to follow her recommendations if you were truly town.

 

Now you want to reveal our finder?? And another person on top of that!!!

[Sir Redust]

I see my mistake was trusting Mynd. I got swept into it before I knew it.

 

I don't claim to have used any action on Mynd. but i say i am seeing things more clearly. Mynd is a symp. Its the only explanation I can come up with at the moment.

 

Can we even lynch the undead successfully? Are we willing to take that chance and give the mafia another kill? I don't think a symp can really hurt us as long as we know they are the symp and ignore them.

 

Wouldn't it be better to try and hang a mafia? Aemon and Alanna are now my top suspects for scum due to Mynds declaration of their innocence. Verbal is less likely to be scum.