[Themed Mafia] Dead and Deader - Congratulations Town!

[Tigraine]

First off

[glow=red,2,300]vote Tigs[/glow]

 

Lest anyone think I'm just gunning for her for no reason, here's my rationale:

 

Day 1 we have Pandy claiming Red and Tigs are scum.  No, Pandy's claim isn't enough to convince me.  Tigs leaving her vote on Pandy even after his role claim didn't convince me, since someone who'd just been wrongly accused might not change their vote.  Both make me wonder, but don't convince me.

 

Lia stated that Pandy had not gotten any results back because he sent in a night action that first night and had died by morning so this was purely speculation, someone saying with certainty that I was scum when they had no way of knowing for certain is def. scummy to me.

 

Day 1 Pookie voted for me

 

Night 1 The lack of a second NK night 1 leads me to believe that either a) the healer blocked one of them or b) they targetted the same person.  We clearly saw Red's responsibility for the kill, so it's still possible that the healer saved herself and didn't know it, but I think it more likely that the mafia and SK targetted the same person.

This has nothing to do with me unless I was targeted and my ability used it up.

 

Day 2 and Night 2 nothing huge stuck out at me.  Her vote for Ed was semi-random, as were most other votes that day. Her multiple requests for a vote count were a little ping, but nothing major.  Limi died that night.  She had a random.org vote for Tigs day 1, but I wouldn't connect the kill to Tigs for that. 

I requested a vote count 1 time to see if there was any reason for me to vote because some were talking that we were close to a majority.

 

Day 3 she joined the Red bandwagon.  I understand a desire to actually have a lynch after 2 days of random lynches, so her not having a reason to vote Red isn't really suspicious, even if she was the hammer with no rationale behind it.  :P  Night 3 Ed dies.  Why Ed?  It didn't seem to me like he did anything to stick himself out there. You didn't have a reason for voting Red either, along with ed, wombat, and anox.  And why you would even attempt to link ed to me, i have no idea!

 

Day 4 is where I really start to wonder.  The "day 1 all over again" comment that Wombat referenced did seem odd to me, but only a minor ping.  When Crafty votes, gets voted for by Rey, unvotes, and gets unvoted for by Rey, Tigs then says:

Well thanks Rey and Crafty....I thought I was gonna have a good reason to vote for somebody.

I thought at the time, "what does that mean?" She was going to vote for Crafty?  She was going to vote for Wombat?  (who Crafty had voted for)  She did end up voting for Wombat with the majority saying she wanted to avoid a modkill.

If you would have read the two posts after that you would have realized that it was a joke...I was going to vote for Crafty because of the excuse used to vote for Wombat "the deadline close" Rey told crafty the deadline was later so crafty changed it.  I was saying that I thought Rey had caught crafty up in something then it turned out to be nothing. The post in question was crawling in sarcasm.

Once she had two votes on her, she decided to reveal.  In my opinion this is the single most damning piece of evidence against her and I totally missed it yesterday.  Her reveal:

All I can tell you is that I'm innocent!

The only role I have is that if I am targeted in a night kill then I can escape it one time.  That's it!

Why would a townie have that power?  It's a power very frequently given to SK's to balance the fact that they win on their own and have to take out everyone else. 

Wombat's lynched, Anox is NK'd and now we're up to... I have been a SK 2 times and never had the ability to stop myself from getting night killed.  I am a "bulletproof half demon (townie)"

Day 5.  Rolefishing.  :P

 

Something I couldn't really figure out how to put into the day/night stuff above, the big red flag to me on my read-through, was Tigs' night posting.  Tigs has posted every night, usually multiple times per night phase, and frequently anxious to see night over.  Even at the beginning of the game when there weren't delays in phases.  In all the games I've played with her, I haven't seen her fuss about night this much.  To me, it's a clear indication that she has a night action.  She claims she doesn't, but it sure looks like she does.

 

All but one or two of our phases have been late.  On Night 4 it was late by days.  I understand the excuses that Lia has had but the were still late....that's why I kept on it so much.  I was worried about what might be going on in RL for Lia. 

 

On day 4, your reasoning for voting for me was that you thought I insulted Lia.  That's it!  I think that by far you have looked scummier in this game than I have and once I get lynched, hopefully they will come after you.

[Red2111]

I have been a SK 2 times and never had the ability to stop myself from getting night killed.  

 

normally SK's are given an immunity to nk's every other night.  since your statment controdicts this standard setup for a SK, as well as your claim on a one time immunity, and that a lynch is better than a random.  i'm still suspicious of MCS though

 

[glow=green,2,300]unvote[/glow]

 

[glow=red,2,300]vote tigs[/glow]

 

Deadline

Friday, Feb 26.  8 alive, 5 to lynch

 

Vote Count

Tigs(5): Pookie, Alanna, Rose, MCS, Red

 

no vote(3): Tynaal, Tigraine, craftyreader

[craftyreader]

Going to go with [glow=red,2,300]Tigraine[/glow] on this one.  Partially a hunch I have, and partially from the reasons other have pointed out.

[Tigraine]

Red was the nail in my coffin. I'll go ahead and make my bah post and stop posting just in case Lia is busy.

 

Good luck town! 

 

Bah!

[mcs0083]

Funny how you said good luck town when you have not been revealed as being town yet. Seems like a ploy to me.

[Tigraine]

I'm sorry, I know I said I would stop posting but I had to dispute this.  The hammer vote was already placed on me +1 so if I'm not mistaken then nothing can change the fact that I've been lynched....even if everyone unvoted this second...the damage is done. 

[Tynaal Consen]

Sorry guys.. I have been so lost on the new format and none of my links work.. ARGH!

 

Anyway.. Pookie's logic is really convincing.. So I'll join the[glow=red,2,300] Tigs[/glow] run even though its not necessary

[craftyreader]

*pokes random people*

[Liathiana]

Vote Count:

 

Tigraine(7): Pookie, Alanna, Rose, MCS, Red, Crafty, Tynaal

 

Not Voting: Tigraine

 

Tigraine, Diantha, the Half-Demon Bulletproof (1x) townie was lynched by a super-majority vote.

 

Night 5 has begun and will last 48 hours-ish. Get your night actions in to me sooner and I'll update tomorrow after work!

[Pookie]

Blah.  I was certain up until Tigs said enough to make me sure she'd be mod killed for character revealing.  :P  "half-demon" pretty much only left one option for who the character would be.  Sad thing is there wasn't much she could have claimed to make me believe her beyond her character reveal because everything looked so off before that.

[Tynaal Consen]

And here I'm thinking I'm being inactive

[mcs0083]

Well you are ;)

[Red2111]

:'(  has this game died

[craftyreader]

I think we are waiting on night actions to finish.

[Liathiana]

*is a bad Mod*

 

Okay! Poor poor Red, the Werewolf Alcide, has been torn limb from limb!

 

Day 6 has begun! The deadline is in 72 hours! 4 are needed for a Majority Lynch.

[Alanna]

[glow=red,2,300]Rose[/glow]. So you can probably guess my character when I say this, but here is my role: I pick one person each night and get to hear what they're thinking. Last night I 'listened' to Rose, and the only thing on her mind was Red. In a very emphatic and violent way.

[Pookie]

Her phrasing of her vote for Tigs made me wonder and made me certain she'd be setting me up today if I was wrong.  vote [glow=red,2,300]Rose[/glow]

 

Alanna, I can't believe you weren't the NK.  *cheers*

[Liathiana]

Vote Count:

 

Rose(2): Alanna, Pookie

 

Deadline in title, Majority = 4

[craftyreader]

I reread Rose's post, and nothing seems suspicious about it.  What does, though, is the way you and Alanna are sticking together so closely.

 

[glow=red,2,300]vote Pookie[/glow]

[Red2111]

go town!!!

[Alanna]

So...you think, what, Pookie and I are mafia together?

 

Tynaal can confirm I'm not lying about who I am (without explicitly saying who I am). Which, by your logic, means Tynaal, Pookie, and I are on a team together. And since there are only 6 players left, there can't be 3 mafia.

 

As it is, I'm almost certain we're dealing with a SK, and not with another mafia group. Meaning only one more person can be guilty, anyway.

 

And if you're suspicious about the fact that we voted so quickly, well, I basically got confirmation from my night action that Rose killed Red. I didn't need to think about it much. I'm assuming Pookie believes me, and that's why she voted so quickly.

[Pookie]

Alanna gave a partial reveal yesterday (saying she had reason to believe some people were innocent) and described her role more fully today after she had information against someone specific -- Rose.  I believe her claim.  I believe we were down to just me, Red-Rey and Rose who she hadn't cleared, so my vote wouldn't have been different because I believed Rey was innocent.  If Alanna had viewed Red, there might still be some question since Red died, but her results are pretty clear.  If Rose is innocent, either Alanna is lying or her results aren't 100%, but I don't think that's the case. 

[mnwhiterose]

OMGUS, Alanna. I think you are fishing now, knowing that it is close to end game. Did you get a response saying that I killed Red, or that I was thinking about Red? Maybe I was looking at Red, investigating her. Or maybe I was thinking about lynching, since we have to glow our votes in red.

 

Why is this the first time we are hearing about your ability, if you are some sort of Finder? Seems very fishy to me.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Alanna[/glow]

 

 

[Alanna]

Why would I ever have revealed as a finder earlier, when I had nothing to contribute? That would have gotten me killed right away. Everyone else I investigated seemed innocent to me, according to what they were thinking, so I had nothing to share with the town. Also, it's not like I was a candidate to be lynched. So why on earth would I have revealed earlier?

 

The 'thoughts' I get back from Lia are pretty clear. I doubt you were investigating Red, because I've gotten the thoughts of an investigator before, and they clearly said something like 'I wonder what so-and-so is doing tonight.' And the lynching idea is a pretty ridiculous claim. Besides, I don't think Lia gives me random thoughts like that. Everything I've gotten back has been pretty concrete and told me clearly who the person I 'listen' to is.

 

Your thoughts last night were something like Red Red Red Red RED RED RED!! Sounds like a psycho or a SK going to kill someone to me.

[craftyreader]

quick fyi to all - Tomorrow at an insanely early time, I am going out into the field for weekend drill.  I may or may not have internet access.