"I see you" greeting used in Avatar...

[CowboyNinjaD]

I wonder if James Cameron has read the Wheel of Time books or if he and Robert Jordan just lifted it from the same place.

 

Do any real tribal cultures use that exact greeting?

[Thorum]

The Aiel of course ;D

[Impressive Bosom]

I wonder if James Cameron has read the Wheel of Time books or if he and Robert Jordan just lifted it from the same place.

 

Do any real tribal cultures use that exact greeting?

 

A number of the traditions, sayings and even root words used for the culture and language of 'The People' are Native American in inspiration if not in origin. And even though the same words are used, the sentiment behind them is different between the Aeil and the Na'vi.

[SheaththeSword]

You say the Aiel culture inspired by native American-Indians. Largely i agree with you there, except for the the fact that much of the clan system, the cattle raids, and the red hair, all allude to Gaelic Irish and/or Scottish cultures and times.

 

Though i wouldn't put it past anyone o steal a few cows. lol

[Impressive Bosom]

You say the Aiel culture inspired by native American-Indians. Largely i agree with you there, except for the the fact that much of the clan system, the cattle raids, and the red hair, all allude to Gaelic Irish and/or Scottish cultures and times.

 

Though i wouldn't put it past anyone o steal a few cows. lol

 

Actually, no - the point I was making is that the Na'vi culture in Avatar is largely inspired by that of Native Americans, including the sentiment behind their greeting.

[SheaththeSword]

OH, pardon me. I think i'll go see this movie, the trailers in this part of the world plus all the macky-d ads going with it made me think it was a litl kids movie. Just from what i've heard i realise my mistake.

[Impressive Bosom]

OH, pardon me. I think i'll go see this movie, the trailers in this part of the world plus all the macky-d ads going with it made me think it was a litl kids movie. Just from what i've heard i realise my mistake.

No, its very adult.

 

I'll give you a quick mini-review: visually stunning, unlike anything you've ever seen before. The theme/overall plot is not exactly original, but their approach to it is. Some politically sensitive few might be bothered by a percieved anti-American, anti-war, pro-environment undertone, but the film is no where near as heavy-handed in these areas as it could be and it certainly does nothingto distract from the film. Definitely the rare type of sci-fi flick you could take a girl to and have her leaving breathless and excited.  ;)

[SheaththeSword]

How can people be offended by an ANIT-war understone???:S

 

Except possibly those who advocate freedom of speech at all costs. Even (apparently) at the cost having an opinion.

[Sharaman]

I wonder if James Cameron has read the Wheel of Time books or if he and Robert Jordan just lifted it from the same place.

 

Do any real tribal cultures use that exact greeting?

 

According to Rider Haggard, the Zulu used to start formal convos "I see you".

Each warrior carried several short stabbing spears called assegai and oval shields,

The Impi (Zulu regiments) of Shaka could trot 80 miles a day and fight a pitched battle at the end of it.

Does any of this sound familiar?

 

[Impressive Bosom]

I wonder if James Cameron has read the Wheel of Time books or if he and Robert Jordan just lifted it from the same place.

 

Do any real tribal cultures use that exact greeting?

 

According to Rider Haggard, the Zulu used to start formal convos "I see you".

Each warrior carried several short stabbing spears called assegai and oval shields,

The Impi (Zulu regiments) of Shaka could trot 80 miles a day and fight a pitched battle at the end of it.

Does any of this sound familiar?

 

 

Wow. That's very interesting...

[CowboyNinjaD]

I wonder if James Cameron has read the Wheel of Time books or if he and Robert Jordan just lifted it from the same place.

 

Do any real tribal cultures use that exact greeting?

 

According to Rider Haggard, the Zulu used to start formal convos "I see you".

Each warrior carried several short stabbing spears called assegai and oval shields,

The Impi (Zulu regiments) of Shaka could trot 80 miles a day and fight a pitched battle at the end of it.

Does any of this sound familiar?

 

 

Wow. That's very interesting...

 

 

 

That's actually kind of messed up, since RJ made the African tribe a bunch of red-headed white people for his books. But in all fairness, I thought he took the idea for the Aiel more from the Fremen in Dune than anything else.

[Sharaman]

Anybody who has studied military history knows about the Zulu and RJ studied military history.

The Aiel tactics are a mixture of Zulu and Apache. Their weaponry is straight out Zulu and so is what they do on the battle-field in pitched battles - down to the outflanking buffalo horn formations and the rat-tat-tat of spears and singing (Zulus used to ululate) going into the attack.

The Apache skill at concealment and specialising in desert warfare is also an obvious borrowing.

The Fremen are more like early Arabs (Md in his Medina days). More likely to ride if they have the option and much more eclectic in their choice of weapons. Also Fremen don't fight for the heck of it in the same way Zulus and Apache did,

So, what if he made them white Celtics?

All his racial stuff is completely, and I assume, deliberately mixed up.

Some people use chopsticks, others wear top-knots, a third lot wear bindis (ki'sain), some wear braids.

 

[ROB_88]

I wonder if James Cameron has read the Wheel of Time books or if he and Robert Jordan just lifted it from the same place.

 

so? it's used in the game portal by the auto turrets too

[SheaththeSword]

He made them black Celts.