Dirty Cops Mafia - GAME OVER!!!

mcs0083 · March 26, 2009

unvote Catina

[glow=red,2,300]Vote Talya[/glow]

The way I see it, I'm dead anyway. I'm not a Cop, I am a Doctor like I said, but apparently that isn't good enough for you all. My only shot at staying alive here is to go after Talya. Mynd does have a point, she has been acting bazonkas and the lynch on Catina seems to be null.

Jeran · March 26, 2009

Since when did we have a cult? That is only a supposition. We definitely need to get rid of Dirty Cops since they are known to exist.

The Other? and More...Other? on page 1 could be the Lombardi character who could be a godfather or the Officer Makela character who for some reason was a big surprise to one of the dead cops in the intro.

I can see mcs changing his vote at this point for the reason he just posted but Mynd changing seems odder to me.

Clearly I need to do some more reading on my lunch break.

mcs0083 · March 26, 2009

Since when did we have a cult? That is only a supposition. We definitely need to get rid of Dirty Cops since they are known to exist.

And your vote for me was a supposition. ::)

Jeran · March 26, 2009

And your vote for me was a supposition. ::)

The only ones that aren't are Dirty Cops. Would you rather the Good Guys just sit around and wait while the Dirty Cops pick us off at night. ::)

mcs0083 · March 26, 2009

Are you insinuating that whoever didn't vote for me or changed their vote for me, is a dirty cop? That is dangerous ground if you are my friend.

Jeran · March 26, 2009

No, it was merely a statement of fact in response to your statement which you chose to adorn with an eye-rolling smiley.

If all votes except for votes by Dirty Cops were not suppostions at this stage then why would we bother playing because we would know who everybody is?

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

Talya, there is a simple solution. Vote MCS. Thorum is convinced that he is 99% mafia, which is no where near accurate, but that aside, it is quite interesting that we are only a few hours away from deadline and you still haven't changed your vote to MCS. Nor has Peacesells.

If I am wrong about Talya, who are you going to lynch next? Me, of course. The only proof I can give is her coroner report, but I think that if you re-read her posts without prejudice, you will see that both she and peacesells have been trying to get us away from looking at alternative

Let us not forget that there are four possible alignments in this game and only one of them is Innocent. I have no idea what the other two are, but again....read Talya and Peace's reactions to my accusations.

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

It is now 5 hours until deadline. Talya is online and yet she still refuses to vote for MCS.

Please re-read her posts, pay particular attention to her downplaying the whole deal about a cult. Peacesells nearly said the exact same thing the other day. They are trying to discredit me instead of answering for their own actions, which is the sign of scum in panic mode. I think I hit the nail on the head here and I implore all of us, innocent and mafia alike, to consider Talya as our lynch today.

The empty slot for voting MCS has been open for quite some time now. She has had plenty of opportunity to vote and yet she chooses not to. Why is that I wonder?

Talya · March 26, 2009

Because I won't have you Badger me into voting for someone who claims a role (whether i believe him or not) From the games I used to play, it was something we didn't do, until it could be proved either way! Sorry if you don't like the way I play.

By this emotional blackmail, you think you can make me look bad whatever my move, now how about talking to the other 7 who haven't voted for him, and I ask you again why did you, after all your badgering to vote for him in the first place, take it off him if you bleieve he is mafia. One minute me and mcs are together then I'm protecting mcs, so according to you mcs would be on my so called team (that he isn't I don't have one except the innocents), then you could find that out by voting him yourself!

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

Please read the quotes below and tell me if you notice something....

Talya's reply after I mentioned the whole deal about the Cult...notice how she expects a reaction from me? Guilty conscience perhaps?

We could spend all day going round and round the roles we may or maynot have. The trouble is we won't find out until the end. [glow=b,2,300]Although it is good to discuss, we can't get caught up in this and worry more about if there is a cult or anything else. The most important thing is to get the Mafia, but keeping this in mind as we go along.[/b] I know, teaching you all to suck eggs, but just thought I would mention it, for the newbies mostly!

*waitd for Mynd to twist everything she has said* ;D

This is Peacesells post later on....

...but really I think we are distracting ourselves too much. Let's find the mafia guys. (OH nooooeeeesssss MYND...that must make me a cult member.)

Notice the common agenda in both posts.

Folks, I voted Talya to get exactly the reaction that I did. Peacesells has been making very rational posts up until the beginning of Day 2. Now, all of a sudden, his posts are bent on discrediting me and making me look bad. They are insulting, mocking, and desperately full of comments bent on downplaying this whole idea of a cult. If he were with us, he would at least have acknowledged the possibility that Talya has been acting fishy....or that a Cult is indeed a threat.

Talya · March 26, 2009

What reaction did you expect Mynd.

And why do you think I waited for your response, becuase I knew exactly what you would do. You confuse guilty mind, with actually knowing how YOU would react, or over react as you have been doing all game.

Noow as for people trying to discredit you, it's another thing you have been doing all game. I can't speak for peacesells, but you are so barking up the wrong tree. And you certainly don't know my game play. Why? Because i play any game and any time during the game depending on how I'm feeling personaly at that time. If I'm not in a posting mood, I'm quiet, if I'm feeling like a good challenge I will argue my point back. Nothing to do with whether I'm mafia or innocent or anything else.

Prove this cult please, I'm waiting for your evidence I haven't seen any...I've seen the maybe's but not the actual evidence there is one! So you are trying to lynch me because you think I'm a cult member, and yet you can't even prove a cult exists.

Those other alignments could men anything, a symp, a vigilante, a mole in the mafia, anything, and yes a cult team too. But if we concentrate too much of something we are not sure of how are we going to be able to go for the mafia too. By my reckoning I think there are three mafia left. We didn't get Barm we only found him out because he had to retire from the game.

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

Because I won't have you Badger me into voting for someone who claims a role (whether i believe him or not) From the games I used to play, it was something we didn't do, until it could be proved either way! Sorry if you don't like the way I play.

So...you won't vote him because he claims a role. So, you don't think he is mafia? So much for Thorum's 99% theory. What about Catina? She all but claimed to be an innocent finder and yet you push for her death before she even gets a chance to post. Do you believe that Catina is mafia?

By this emotional blackmail, you think you can make me look bad whatever my move, now how about talking to the other 7 who haven't voted for him,

Nothing emotional about this. The other 7 who haven't voted for MCS? You mean like Peacesells? I am most certainly speaking with him. Why should I ask MCS why he isn't voting for himself?

and I ask you again why did you, after all your badgering to vote for him in the first place, take it off him if you bleieve he is mafia. One minute me and mcs are together then I'm protecting mcs, so according to you mcs would be on my so called team (that he isn't I don't have one except the innocents), then you could find that out by voting him yourself!

I was very clear on my unvote, my gut was telling me he is mafia but he claimed a healer role and something else that you know I cannot discuss. It is likely that he is innocent, but we needed a lynch and I thought the Day was going to end with the majority so I clinched it. Surprise, the day did not end and that gave me time to read back.

I simply asked you why you haven't voted MCS, and your reaction seems to satisfy my intuition. ;D

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

What reaction did you expect Mynd.

And why do you think I waited for your response, becuase I knew exactly what you would do. You confuse guilty mind, with actually knowing how YOU would react, or over react as you have been doing all game.

There was no need to post that comment. If you were confident in what you posted, then you didn't need to say that you expected me to find fault with it. You also know that I pegged you as the Mafia Symp on Day 1 in another mafia game. How did I do that? By reading your posts and tracking your reactions.

Noow as for people trying to discredit you, it's another thing you have been doing all game. I can't speak for peacesells, but you are so barking up the wrong tree. And you certainly don't know my game play. Why? Because i play any game and any time during the game depending on how I'm feeling personaly at that time. If I'm not in a posting mood, I'm quiet, if I'm feeling like a good challenge I will argue my point back. Nothing to do with whether I'm mafia or innocent or anything else.

So why the reaction here? Why are you overreacting to this when the simple solution is to vote MCS?

Prove this cult please, I'm waiting for your evidence I haven't seen any...I've seen the maybe's but not the actual evidence there is one! So you are trying to lynch me because you think I'm a cult member, and yet you can't even prove a cult exists.

Those other alignments could men anything, a symp, a vigilante, a mole in the mafia, anything, and yes a cult team too. But if we concentrate too much of something we are not sure of how are we going to be able to go for the mafia too. By my reckoning I think there are three mafia left. We didn't get Barm we only found him out because he had to retire from the game.

Nope, sorry, alignments have nothing to do with role. Alignments are either innocent or not-innocent and those other roles are not-innocent. DSage was quite clear about that. By the way, three mafia plus Barm makes four out of 15. That's an awful lot to have in a game with other non-innocent roles. HOw can you be so sure of that number?

CUBAREY · March 26, 2009

By this emotional blackmail, you think you can make me look bad whatever my move, now how about talking to the other 7 who haven't voted for him, and I ask you again why did you, after all your badgering to vote for him in the first place, take it off him if you bleieve he is mafia. One minute me and mcs are together then I'm protecting mcs, so according to you mcs would be on my so called team (that he isn't I don't have one except the innocents), then you could find that out by voting him yourself!

It's simple Tayla some of us believe the possibility of a Cult is quite real (and that you are the leader). A Cult is as dangerous as the Mafia to innocents. We are somewhat convinced that MCS is Mafia and if turns out that you are innocent then Mynd is also likely Mafia. This is day two of the Game (game time) we already have one dead Mafia and if you are innocent we would have in all likelihood identified two other Mafia (which we could kill in day 3 and 4). Moreover, if you are innocent then we pretty much have squashed the possibility of a Cult. Thus the most rational move is to Lynch you.

Now if you would have voted for MCS right after Mynd changed his vote suspicions against you would have been lessoned. However, as it is you look suspicous to the point of amost certainty that you are not a simple cop. Mynd has put his ass where his mouth is, he has offered to be the next lynchee if he is wrong. That is a powerful argument whether you like to admit it or not.

Further, as a Cult leader you have an interest in not only recruiting members but also protecting scum at this point in the game (as they eliminate cops making your job to recruit a majority easier). You're protection of MCS is a tell.

Lastly, my voting pattern on day 2 is quite rational. I voted with you to lynch Catina because I believed that her wanting to be the finder when she only had an innocent read was suspicous. Frankly, I changed my vote to you because I accept Mynd's argument against you and peacesells and the certainty that if you are innocent both MCS and Mynd would be toast.

CatinaSedai · March 26, 2009

geeze. i come back to read all this junk? why have we not lynched mcs by now?

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

geeze. i come back to read all this junk? why have we not lynched mcs by now?

Catina, why are you so bent on lynching MCS anyway? We have reason to believe that he is the healer, which Talya doesn't deny, and now we are seeing quite interesting reactions from peacesells and Talya when I only mentioned the possibility of a Cult.

Thorum · March 26, 2009

It is now 5 hours until deadline. Talya is online and yet she still refuses to vote for MCS.

So do you. In most games players try NOT to look suspicious...

Mynd, we have MUCH more reason to believe mcs is a lying lier who lies than to believe he is the healer. Or have you already forgotten what you yourself were convinced of 10 pages ago?

Just lynch him.

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

Why the push Thorum? You already know where I stand on MCS, but why are you not even remotely curious why TALYA or PEACESELLS don't just vote him? If she did, then I would be satisfied.....but with so much time gone by since I removed my vote, neither one of them have clinched the lych. You don't find that suspicious at all?

CatinaSedai · March 26, 2009

mynd i havent been bent on lynching mcs. i have been bent on lynching someone. anyone. you even if we need to. we are getting nowhere by not lynching anyone.

hmmmm. i have read through all this garbage and i think mynd might actually be onto something for once. i would have taken his first post as just his usual rantings but talya overreacted and did try to get us off the idea of a cult. why she hasnt voted for mcs is a legit question. peacesells has also been posting a lot but saying very little. i think there is something to this. if talya is innocent then we lynch mynd.

[glow=red,2,300]unvote talya[/glow]

Thorum · March 26, 2009

okay, I'm giving it up.

I fear I'm the only one who wants a lynch today :(

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

Why is it a surprise that I am onto something, Catina? If Talya comes up as Cult, it doesn't make you innocent, just for the record. I'm inclined to believe you are, but I trust nobody at this point. There just happen to be two people I trust even less right now.

Thorum, don't give up. If Talya wanted to lynch MCS, she had more than 24 hours to do so. Why hasn't she? Now, with Catina's vote, she will need peacesells to vote with him. Can you deny that she has been acting shady from the beginning? Do you deny that she has been trying to get us off the Cult topic a bit too desperately?

peacesells · March 26, 2009

Mynd,

Do you want me to vote for MCS? The only reason I haven't is 2 things. His role claim as the doctor and your insinuation that you found him innocent. The role claim alone wouldn't hold me back but the 2 together make me pause.

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

Mynd,

Do you want me to vote for MCS? The only reason I haven't is 2 things. His role claim as the doctor and your insinuation that you found him innocent. The role claim alone wouldn't hold me back but the 2 together make me pause.

...and yet you think I am mafia with him? That just doesn't make any sense. Your reasons for not voting him are that you belive both him and me to be innocent and that you trust my viewing, and yet you vote me and think me mafia? Please explain this to me.

peacesells · March 26, 2009

Mynd,

Do you want me to vote for MCS? The only reason I haven't is 2 things. His role claim as the doctor and your insinuation that you found him innocent. The role claim alone wouldn't hold me back but the 2 together make me pause.

...and yet you think I am mafia with him? That just doesn't make any sense. Your reasons for not voting him are that you belive both him and me to be innocent and that you trust my viewing, and yet you vote me and think me mafia? Please explain this to me.

I'll be happy to but please answer my question as well.

I think it is a possibility that you two are in together. I have no way of knowing that for sure...but I can see someone like you enjoy coming up with an elaborate scheme like that. And I can see a new player following along with it thinking it would be exciting to play. But, I'm not absolutely positive this is the case and the role claim is just too much to drop the hammer on right now.

Now please answer my question I posted above.

Myndrunner · March 26, 2009

Wait, is your question do I want you to vote for MCS? No, I want to know why you haven't already.

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