Dirty Cops Mafia - GAME OVER!!!

[cosmicpanda]

Peacesells, all I can say is that you're wrong about the no lynch on day one. Mafia try to pretend to be town, and Barmy knows that according to theory a lynch every day is best for the town.

 

 

And I think the games with jesters in that you're thinking about must be Far's annual games in SG. Usually Naeann, if memory serves me.

[peacesells]

Peacesells, all I can say is that you're wrong about the no lynch on day one. Mafia try to pretend to be town, and Barmy knows that according to theory a lynch every day is best for the town.

 

Well, I have to admit I'm not up on game theory so I'll just have to take your word for it.  I was reading another forum discussing this same topic and the majority there thought the opposite of you...but who knows.

[Myndrunner]

So you took your vote off mcs, and want me to do as you say and vote for him. If I would have wanted to vote for I would have. ::)

 

And I'm not trying to stop you looking at the true threat, as it is something we don't know for definate. It's one of the ideas that had been discussed, and yet we have no proof, so how can I stop you looking at something we don't know is there or not!

 

So you are refusing to vote for MCS?  Why?  Is there something you know that we don't?

 

Let's find the mafia guys.  (OH nooooeeeesssss MYND...that must make me a cult member.)

 

Do not make light of this, peaceshells.  You have been making rational posts until now. I have lost and won games because the innocents underestimated the cult.  Just the fact that you and Talya are making light of this is quite disturbing.

[peacesells]

Do not make light of this, [glow=red,2,300]peaceshells[/glow].

 

Since you have now done this twice, I will now consider it an intentional insult and from now on start addressing you as Myndless. 

 

Myndless, you throw accusations around like used sunflower seed shells.  They are useless and do nothing but clutter the ground you walk on.  You are by far the most disruptive force in this game and if by some chance you are a Good Cop are not doing your breathren any service.  In fact, I'd say you are doing much to help the Dirty cops.

 

Please cease and desist (in copper speak) with your Myndless accusations.  You are a weather vain turning in high wind...spinning so much there is no chance to settle in direction.

[Dark Justice]

Peacesells: First game with Mynd, eh?

Youll get used to it. Just dont read too much into it... It is still anoying most of the time, but every so often, he actually hits the nail... (the problem is seing when he does, and when he is full of bull...)

[peacesells]

but every so often, he actually hits the nail... (the problem is seing when he does, and when he is full of bull...)

 

I actually have found of few things that Myndless has stated to be interesting...the problem is..anyone can throw 30 darts at a wall...something is sure to stick.  It's not amazing deduction to guess at everything then claim brilliance when 1 of the guesses is right. 

[cosmicpanda]

don't take anything in this thread too personally.

 

It's a hell of a lot more useful to throw 30 darts than none. You get reactions. I'm looking at yours. You got panicky when accused of being a cult member...

[Hybrid]

Myndless

Well, this is deja vu...

 

Sorry I haven't been quite so active in the last few days - it's remarkable how I could end up being busier during spring break than at school.  I've had time to glance over the thread, but not enough to really read into people's actions.  I'm rereading now.

[CUBAREY]

Do not make light of this, [glow=red,2,300]peaceshells[/glow].

 

Since you have now done this twice, I will now consider it an intentional insult and from now on start addressing you as Myndless. 

 

Myndless, you throw accusations around like used sunflower seed shells.  They are useless and do nothing but clutter the ground you walk on.  You are by far the most disruptive force in this game and if by some chance you are a Good Cop are not doing your breathren any service.  In fact, I'd say you are doing much to help the Dirty cops.

 

Please cease and desist (in copper speak) with your Myndless accusations.  You are a weather vain turning in high wind...spinning so much there is no chance to settle in direction.

 

Peacesells do not quote someone and highlight your name on the quoted post, it looks like Mynd had voted to lynch you when he had not. Is this a newbie mistake or were you trying to confuse the other players?

[peacesells]

Do not make light of this, [glow=red,2,300]peaceshells[/glow].

 

Since you have now done this twice, I will now consider it an intentional insult and from now on start addressing you as Myndless. 

 

Myndless, you throw accusations around like used sunflower seed shells.  They are useless and do nothing but clutter the ground you walk on.  You are by far the most disruptive force in this game and if by some chance you are a Good Cop are not doing your breathren any service.  In fact, I'd say you are doing much to help the Dirty cops.

 

Please cease and desist (in copper speak) with your Myndless accusations.  You are a weather vain turning in high wind...spinning so much there is no chance to settle in direction.

 

Peacesells do not quote someone and highlight your name on the quoted post, it looks like Mynd had voted to lynch you when he had not. Is this a newbie mistake or were you trying to confuse the other players?

 

I was trying to make sure he know that I was talking about intentional miss-spelling of my name.

[peacesells]

Btw..glowing Peaceshells would not be a vote.

[CUBAREY]

Glowing a name in red may not officially be a vote but to change someone's post by inserting a highlighting your name in glowing red can be mistaken for one.

[peacesells]

Glowing a name in red may not officially be a vote but to change someone's post by inserting a highlighting your name in glowing red can be mistaken for one.

 

I can see your point.  I figure out a better way if it comes up in the future..thanks.

[Toy and Minion]

Lynching Ballot

 

Mcs (6): Pandy, Dark Justice, Thorum, Catina, Danya, Jeran

 

Catina (3): Talya, Cubarey, Mcs

 

Myndrunner (1): peacesells

Talya (1): Myndrunner

 

Mcs no longer has the Maximum number of votes.

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to Lynch.

 

Day 2 ends Thursday 2 at 3:00 PM (MST)

[mcs0083]

unvote Catina

[glow=red,2,300]Vote Talya[/glow]

[Myndrunner]

Question:  What is worse....a night kill or converting someone to the cult?

 

It has been my experience that when there is a cult in a game like this, you need to nip them in the bud immediately.  They are a threat to mafia and innocent alike because they can recruit anyone!  Those of you familiar with the Heroes Mafia on Myndjack definitely know what I am talking about.  While the mafia usually gets one night kill a night, the cult gets to turn a player....which not only takes away an innocent or mafia, but also adds to their numbers.  The longer you let a Cult Leader build his/her followers, the stronger they become.  

 

Mafia....  You don't have to reveal, but they are as much a threat to you as they are to us.  We need your help here.  Based on their reactions, their downplaying of us discussing the cult, and peacesells sudden odd behavior after Night 1 suggest to me that Talya and Peacesells are both cult.  Talya is the cult leader and I think she recruited Peacesells last night.  They want innocent cop and mafia locked in a battle with each other while they slowly convert their minions.  

 

I thought clinching the lynch on MCS would have moved the game forward, but now that I have had time to think, I see Talya as the real threat here.  She has been acting scummish since the beginning, she is either mafia or she is the Cult Leader.  Up until recently, I thought her mafia....but the way she downplayed the idea of a Cult and told us to focus only on the mafia....I mean, I can't believe no one else is lynching her.

 

If she turns out innocent, I have no problem with a Myndrunner lynch the following day.  I'll even vote myself first.  I am so sure she is not innocent, I will bet my chance at winning this game on it.  

[peacesells]

 

If she turns out innocent, I have no problem with a Myndrunner lynch the following day.  I'll even vote myself first.  I am so sure she is not innocent, I will bet my chance at winning this game on it.  

 

Myndless...I'll be holding you to that vote.  BTW..I see your buddy switched his vote to Tayla just before you posted...have you two been communicating behind the scenes?  Perhaps you told him to vote Tayla and he jumped the gun a bit before you could post your reasoning to all the world?

 

Now that I think about the whole MCS editing his post deal, it makes me wonder.  Didn't his original post have your name in green and the he changed it to a lynch vote to someone else?  Are you the one that advised him to switch it since you knew it would look suspicious that the newbie jumped on your boat so fast? 

 

It seems to me that the only player here you have really tried to distance yourself from is MCS.  You've mentioned several times that you think he is scum..but you don't drop the hammer?  Why do this unless you two are in together?

 

Your so good at questioning others...how about some answers of your own here?

 

 

 

[CUBAREY]

 

 

If she turns out innocent, I have no problem with a Myndrunner lynch the following day.  I'll even vote myself first.  I am so sure she is not innocent, I will bet my chance at winning this game on it.  

 

Hmm,I think this offer is just to good to pass up. If Mynd is correct we take out two cultists, if Mynd is wrong then we have sacrificed Tayla but Mynd (and MCS) are toast. If this were later in the game I would turn the offer down, but we have played a day and a night and have lost one good cop and one dirty cop, so its early yet and possibly sacrificing one good cop, versus killing two cultists (and having two viable dirty cop targets) is too good to turn down.  unvote Catina [glow=red,2,300]vote Tayla[/glow].

[Toy and Minion]

Lynching Ballot

 

Mcs (6): Pandy, Dark Justice, Thorum, Catina, Danya, Jeran

 

Talya (3): Myndrunner, Mcs, Cubarey

 

Catina (1): Talya

Myndrunner (1): peacesells

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to Lynch.

 

Day 2 ends Thursday 2 at 3:00 PM (MST)

[Myndrunner]

Myndless...I'll be holding you to that vote.  BTW..I see your buddy switched his vote to Tayla just before you posted...have you two been communicating behind the scenes?  Perhaps you told him to vote Tayla and he jumped the gun a bit before you could post your reasoning to all the world?

 

First of all, peaceshells was not insulting.  Retaliating by calling me Myndless is not only unoriginal but also betrays how hostile you have become of me since calling you and Talya out like this.  Truth is, I don't have any idea why MCS voted Talya, but probably because of my original post where I actually voted her.  Right now, she's the only person more scummish looking than he is.....well, no, I can think of one other person. 

 

Now that I think about the whole MCS editing his post deal, it makes me wonder.  Didn't his original post have your name in green and the he changed it to a lynch vote to someone else?   Are you the one that advised him to switch it since you knew it would look suspicious that the newbie jumped on your boat so fast? 

He changed his finder vote from mine to Catina.  If you recall, I was the one who called him out on it.  So, why would I make such a big deal about it if it was some kind of conspiracy?  Really, you should be defending yourself here rather than trying to shift blame. 

 

It seems to me that the only player here you have really tried to distance yourself from is MCS.  You've mentioned several times that you think he is scum..but you don't drop the hammer?  Why do this unless you two are in together?

Maybe you need a re-read, but I not only was the one who began the lynch on MCS this round but I also came back to put the hammer on him when we thought the day was going to end.  I have been suspicous of him from the beginning, and if you notice, it has been Talya who has been defending him.  This is why I figured the two of them together. 

 

You were such a different player during Day 1 than you are now, which further leads me to believe that you have been recruited by the cult.  All this time, there has been an open spot on MCS to re-clinch the lynch, and yet you still haven't voted him either.  Why is that?  Why do you still have your vote on me?  Why do you refuse to look at the facts presented here?  Why are you coming after me and defending Talya when you should be helping us stop the cult? 

 

Prove me wrong.  Vote Talya and prove to us all that you are not on in a cult with her.  As of yet, you still have not denied it. 

[Thorum]

What's happening here? We have an almost-certain maffia with 7 votes a day too soon.

 

Mynd then suddenly declares Talya is mafia - hereby effectively saving mcs (not yet, but it could come to that) - on a hunch.

 

Just give me one piece of proof Talya is part of a cult. Or just give me proof there IS a cult, for starters. You talk so much, people tend to believe you, Mynd.

[Talya]

It is odd as the closer we get to the deadline Mynd takes his vote off someone he has been saying all along is mafia, then tries to start a vote on me, going on about a cult that we don't know whether exists or not.

 

There are some possible reasons for this.

 

1. He could well be in with mcs, if mafia they would be trying to pull a kivam gambit here. All mcs has to do is look mafia like to begin with and others will easily follow. he hints at finding mcs innocent but instead believes his gut instinct. Now if mcs is found guilty of being a mafia, Mynd looks whiter than snow. But then Dsage says that we still have till Thursday before any lynch. Mynd uses this time to set someone else up and move across to them. mcs can vote too as he is trying to act scummy anyway. If I am lynched and will be shown as innocent then Mynd has sacrificed himself for the next lynch. If this does happen and found to be a mafia they have gained a day, and mcs begins to look innocent.

 

2. Mynd knows mcs is innocent and took his vote odd mcs, hoping that I would put it on there. When mcs comes up as innocent he could then accuse me of wanting to lynch an innocent and his plan to get me lynched (if he doesn't succeed today) for the next day!

 

We do really need a lynch today otherwise we are going to be falling into the mafia's hands. I would so like to vote Mynd right now, but we have less than 12 hours (I think) till the deadline and we need a lynch and that would be a wasted vote. I'm tempted to vote mcs just to save myself, but I think I'll wait on that, I'm still in doubt about whether he has a doctor role or not!

 

I thought clinching the lynch on MCS would have moved the game forward, but now that I have had time to think, I see Talya as the real threat here.  She has been acting scummish since the beginning, she is either mafia or she is the Cult Leader.  Up until recently, I thought her mafia....but the way she downplayed the idea of a Cult and told us to focus only on the mafia....I mean, I can't believe no one else is lynching her.

 

 

You mean you want me out the way because I have seen through your manipulation of people posts and don't fall for, or agree with some of things you say. There are few here that stand up to you on you posts and poke holes in what you are saying, one of the other is peacesells and you are trying to taint him too.

[cosmicpanda]

I would rather deal with mcs today. I don't think that we have enough time to do justice to a peacesells or talya lynch, and I don't want to rush another lynch through when there's a perfectly good one waiting already.

 

I agree that peacesells has changed in behaviour and that this might mean that he has been recruited into a cult, but it could just be the effects of a newbie being put into the limelight.

 

Peacesells, drop the 'Myndless' nonsense. Grow up.

[CUBAREY]

It is odd as the closer we get to the deadline Mynd takes his vote off someone he has been saying all along is mafia, then tries to start a vote on me, going on about a cult that we don't know whether exists or not.

 

There are some possible reasons for this.

 

1. He could well be in with mcs, if mafia they would be trying to pull a kivam gambit here. All mcs has to do is look mafia like to begin with and others will easily follow. he hints at finding mcs innocent but instead believes his gut instinct. Now if mcs is found guilty of being a mafia, Mynd looks whiter than snow. But then Dsage says that we still have till Thursday before any lynch. Mynd uses this time to set someone else up and move across to them. mcs can vote too as he is trying to act scummy anyway. If I am lynched and will be shown as innocent then Mynd has sacrificed himself for the next lynch. If this does happen and found to be a mafia they have gained a day, and mcs begins to look innocent.

 

2. Mynd knows mcs is innocent and took his vote odd mcs, hoping that I would put it on there. When mcs comes up as innocent he could then accuse me of wanting to lynch an innocent and his plan to get me lynched (if he doesn't succeed today) for the next day!

 

We do really need a lynch today otherwise we are going to be falling into the mafia's hands. I would so like to vote Mynd right now, but we have less than 12 hours (I think) till the deadline and we need a lynch and that would be a wasted vote. I'm tempted to vote mcs just to save myself, but I think I'll wait on that, I'm still in doubt about whether he has a doctor role or not!

 

I thought clinching the lynch on MCS would have moved the game forward, but now that I have had time to think, I see Talya as the real threat here.  She has been acting scummish since the beginning, she is either mafia or she is the Cult Leader.  Up until recently, I thought her mafia....but the way she downplayed the idea of a Cult and told us to focus only on the mafia....I mean, I can't believe no one else is lynching her.

 

 

You mean you want me out the way because I have seen through your manipulation of people posts and don't fall for, or agree with some of things you say. There are few here that stand up to you on you posts and poke holes in what you are saying, one of the other is peacesells and you are trying to taint him too.

 

1. This is the second day of the game, one dirty cop is already dead, so there is no immediate neccesity to kill a dirty cop today (especially if we have a cult and one of the two leading candidates for being mafia has volunteered to be killed if it turns out that his accusation of Tayla is wrong).

 

2. If we can get 7 votes on MCS today why would we not be able to get 6 votes on day 3, or 4?

 

3. Your and peacesells refusal to vote for MCS, even to save the kill today while pointing the finger at Mynd and laughing off the possibility of a cult is more then disturbing.

 

4. Lastlt, Mynd is a pain we all agree, and he could very well be mafia, but to claim that he would vote to lynch you and peacesells (and offer to be lynched if he is wrong) because you do not buy his theories and call him on it (which is what you do in your last paragraph) is bizzarre. I think you are desperate because he nailed your role, and are simply trying to play on our annoyence with his penchant to post a thousand theories, to save yourself.

 

If anyone needed more proof that you are either Mafia or a cultest you just gave it to them.

 

 

 

[Talya]

 

 

1. This is the second day of the game, one dirty cop is already dead, so there is no immediate neccesity to kill a dirty cop today (especially if we have a cult and one of the two leading candidates for being mafia has volunteered to be killed if it turns out that his accusation of Tayla is wrong).

 

2. If we can get 7 votes on MCS today why would we not be able to get 6 votes on day 3, or 4?

 

3. Your and peacesells refusal to vote for MCS, even to save the kill today while pointing the finger at Mynd and laughing off the possibility of a cult is more then disturbing.

 

4. Lastlt, Mynd is a pain we all agree, and he could very well be mafia, but to claim that he would vote to lynch you and peacesells (and offer to be lynched if he is wrong) because you do not buy his theories and call him on it (which is what you do in your last paragraph) is bizzarre. I think you are desperate because he nailed your role, and are simply trying to play on our annoyence with his penchant to post a thousand theories, to save yourself.

 

If anyone needed more proof that you are either Mafia or a cultest you just gave it to them.

 

 

I can't believe you just said the bit I bolded, we should always looking for the mafia, it's one of the main purposes of the game. I haven't laughed off anything. Because I don't put more importance onto having a cult (because it is something we don't know) rather than the mafia (something we DO know) doesn't mean I don't take anything and everything in.

 

Not sure what statement no 2 means, It's day 4 today, so that really doesn't make sense.

 

So you are questioning why I don't put a vote where you want it too, If I put it there you would only say I did it because I was forced into it, if I don;t then I'm protecting mcs. Can't win it seems. I find it odd that you followed me about catina and voted for her, then changed your vote to me as that started to get momentium, and all of a sudden believe Mynd, make your mind up (pun intended)! So why haven't you gone to anyone else about not changing their vote to mcs, as their are 7 of us. Oh and if you are complaining at me and peacesells not putting the final vote on, why aren't you complaining to Mynd who took his vote off when we had enough for a lynch. 

 

I couldn't give them any proof Cuba becuase I'm not one, simples! So you and Mynd are making it all up. And why is my last paragraph bizaar, Mynd has shown he doesn't like people not agreeing with his views throughout the whole game I'm not the only one who has said this, so my point is quite valid! And funny that I have pointed aut a few times about his theories in this game way before he had any vote on me, so why should I say anything different than I have been all game?