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I didn't see anything posted about this yet.

http://charity.tarvalon.net/?page_id=2

 

This is an opportunity to get your name in aMoL and also help deal with world hunger.  There are 2 separate name contests.  The person who makes the biggest donation gets to have a character named after them, plus they can chose their nationality, character traits, description, etc.  Also, everyone who donates at least $20 enters into a drawing to have a "captain" character named after them.  Brandon promises that at least 2 winners will be chosen from this group.

 

Everyone can vote to say what the group led by the winners will consist of.  The options are Rand's Aiel, White Tower Aes Sedai and Warders, Cha'Faile and Two Rivers Archers under Perrin, or Royal Guardsmen/Guardswomen for Andor.  I donated and hope I win (but really what are the odds?).

 

Donate to a good cause, and maybe get in the books?  No question for me.

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I asked Harriet if she'd mind me auctioning off a character in A Memory of Light. She was behind that 100%...Robert Jordan did something like this once...There are a LOT of people who need to be named in this story, and so why not let a few of those names and descriptions go to real people?

http://www.brandonsanderson.com/blog/750/Do-You-Want-to-Appear-in-A-Memory-of-Light

 

Brandon simply asked Harriet.  I agree that Brandon should avoid "using" the series in any way, but I can get behind this because RJ did it before, it has Harriet's 100% approval, it is a tough time for charities lately, and the prize is awesome.  I think Brandon is good enough to make the characters feel real - after all these characters will exist anyway, they just don't have names or descriptions at the moment.

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I think it's a wonderful idea. WoT has a very large pbase, and this is added incentive for those charitable persons who do enjoy the series to contribute something and have an honorary mention in the series they love.

 

And I doubt Brandon is 'using' the series. He's not earning money from doing this, and he'd have to do all the work of trying to fit in the character into the world.

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Yey! The richest wheel of time fan gets to be in the series.  Maybe the cameo character's name will be Waryn Buffyt or Wilem Gates.
Nope:

All fans who donate will get a chance to be in the final book in the series, A Memory of Light, regardless of the amount given.
There are 2 separate name contests. The person who makes the biggest donation gets to have a character named after them, plus they can chose their nationality, character traits, description, etc.

 

I don't think Brandon should have done this
Why not?
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The highest bidder in the Silent Auction will be memorialized as a character (physical description, name within guidelines) in a Memory of Light!

 

Those who participate in the General Fundraiser will have their names entered into a drawing. At least two donors will be selected and memorialized as Officers of the combat unit representing all who participated (minimum $20 donation to be eligible for the drawing).

That is at least three winners.  And it turns out that you need to donate at least $20 to be eligible.

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The highest bidder in the Silent Auction will be memorialized as a character (physical description, name within guidelines) in a Memory of Light!

 

Those who participate in the General Fundraiser will have their names entered into a drawing. At least two donors will be selected and memorialized as Officers of the combat unit representing all who participated (minimum $20 donation to be eligible for the drawing).

That is at least three winners.  And it turns out that you need to donate at least $20 to be eligible.

 

You totally deflated my cynicism.

 

 

 

(Thanks for correcting me).

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The highest bidder in the Silent Auction will be memorialized as a character (physical description, name within guidelines) in a Memory of Light!

 

Those who participate in the General Fundraiser will have their names entered into a drawing. At least two donors will be selected and memorialized as Officers of the combat unit representing all who participated (minimum $20 donation to be eligible for the drawing).

That is at least three winners. And it turns out that you need to donate at least $20 to be eligible.
Yes, but one of them is going to be the highest bidder.

 

Any further suggestions for rich people to appear in AMoL?

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Yes, but one of them is going to be the highest bidder.

Which is exactly how an auction works....

 

And there are charity auctions all the time ....

 

So what's your problem?

 

Moreover, this is actually giving anyone who donates $20 (less than the HB itself will cost) to be named in the book.

 

Quit complaining.

 

Donate if you want a chance at being in book, or don't. Don't whine.

 

At the end of the day, Sanderson didn't have to do this, Harriet didn't have to agree. No, you have a chance, take it, or don't.

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Yes, but one of them is going to be the highest bidder.

Which is exactly how an auction works....

 

And there are charity auctions all the time ....

 

So what's your problem?

 

Moreover, this is actually giving anyone who donates $20 (less than the HB itself will cost) to be named in the book.

 

Quit complaining.

 

Donate if you want a chance at being in book, or don't. Don't whine.

 

At the end of the day, Sanderson didn't have to do this, Harriet didn't have to agree. No, you have a chance, take it, or don't.

Apparently, my point went over your head somehow. I wasn't whining, nor was I complaining, I am well aware of how the concept of an auction works, and I have no problem with charity auctions. My problem? WHAT <(^-^)> SAID WAS WRONG. How did you miss that? Yes, everyone will have a chance to be in it if they donate at least $20, but there will still be one character named after the person who makes the largest donation. zzyzx_scarecrow mentioned that, and <(^-^)> said that that was incorrect, when it was entirely correct, if not the whole truth. Did this pass you by? Maybe you should try reading before posting next time. I really did credit you with more sense than that.
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Whoa there,  I wasn't wrong.  I was responding to this:

Yey!  The richest wheel of time fan gets to be in the series.

I said "Nope" to THAT statement.  It's true that the most generous donor in this auction will get to be in the series, but that doesn't mean they are the richest fan of WoT.

 

That wasn't even what we were talking about.  I understood zzyzx_scarecrow to be saying "only rich people get a chance", which I knew was not the case so I said "nope".

 

Nyaa!

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Apparently, my point went over your head somehow. I wasn't whining, nor was I complaining, I am well aware of how the concept of an auction works, and I have no problem with charity auctions. My problem? WHAT <(^-^)> SAID WAS WRONG. How did you miss that? Yes, everyone will have a chance to be in it if they donate at least $20, but there will still be one character named after the person who makes the largest donation. zzyzx_scarecrow mentioned that, and <(^-^)> said that that was incorrect, when it was entirely correct, if not the whole truth. Did this pass you by? Maybe you should try reading before posting next time. I really did credit you with more sense than that.

Your phrase was ambiguously worded.

 

"Any further suggestions for rich people to appear in AMoL?"

 

I would have thought you'd realize that.

 

Back in your box.

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I said "Nope" to THAT statement.

And the reason you gave was wrong, because it did nothing to disprove that statement.

 

I understood zzyzx_scarecrow to be saying "only rich people get a chance", which I knew was not the case so I said "nope".
It might have been what you understood, it might even have been what he meant, but it was not what was said.

 

Your phrase was ambiguously worded.

 

"Any further suggestions for rich people to appear in AMoL?"

 

I would have thought you'd realize that.

 

Back in your box.

There is no ambiguity in that statement. I would have thought you'd realize that.
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I am way too stubborn a person to let this go, even though it is a completely stupid argument based on an offhand comment.

And the reason you gave was wrong, because it did nothing to disprove that statement.

I already told you the "Nope" (and the quote after) were responses to what I thought zzyzx_scarecrow meant.  I wasn't trying to answer the literal statement on the page, but the one implied by his post.  He was being cynical, because usually only wealthy people get to do these things.  That seems obvious to me in his post.  But let's ignore all that and look simply at the words on the page, completely out of context.

 

"Nope" does apply to the literal statement:  Look at what zzyzx_scarecrow said - he is talking about the "richest" WoT fan.  Even if BS had a way to find out who that is, they wouldn't get to be in the book because of their wealth.  They would still have to make the largest donation.

 

In conclusion, "Richest fan" does not mean "biggest donor".

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lol, I just have to ask. 

 

Mr Ares, do you by chance have a philosophy degree or have taken some classes?  At the very least it seems that you have certainly read T. Edward Damer's book Attacking Faulty Reasoning.

 

Oh please, enlighten me on this question.  I just have to know.  :)

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To motblades:

 

I believe that Mr Ares taught Socrates, Plato and Aristatole Logic, both formal and informal. ;D ;)

I could also drink the three of them under the table, and I saved Socrates's life at the battle of Delium, thus allowing him to become one of the founders of Western philosophy.

 

To Mr Ares point; G W Bush needs something to occupy his time, and he has been living in a fantasy world, so maybe he could get in the book.  It'd probably come at taxpayers' expense, though.
George Bush in Wheel of Time? I thought he was.

 

lol, I just have to ask. 

 

Mr Ares, do you by chance have a philosophy degree or have taken some classes?  At the very least it seems that you have certainly read T. Edward Damer's book Attacking Faulty Reasoning.

 

Oh please, enlighten me on this question.  I just have to know.   :)

No, most of my knowledge of philosophy was picked up from drunken philosophy students at university, when I used to take all their money in card games. What this method of learning lacks in coherency and sobriety, it more than makes up for in cash. If you want to try this yourself, a hint: when they are so drunk that you can convince them that you cheating is a logical impossiblity, that's when to start.

 

I am way too stubborn a person to let this go, even though it is a completely stupid argument based on an offhand comment.
Even though this is a meaningless argument, and you've already lost, you still want to carry on? Good luck.

And the reason you gave was wrong, because it did nothing to disprove that statement.
I already told you the "Nope" (and the quote after) were responses to what I thought zzyzx_scarecrow meant.
So you admit you weren't actually addressing his point?
He was being cynical, because usually only wealthy people get to do these things.
But the wealthiest is not necessarily the most generous. So he was being cynical because usually it is only people who are willing to give a lot of money to charity who win in charity auctions?

 

"Nope" does apply to the literal statement: Look at what zzyzx_scarecrow said - he is talking about the "richest" WoT fan. Even if BS had a way to find out who that is, they wouldn't get to be in the book because of their wealth. They would still have to make the largest donation.
Yes, but that is not the reason you gave. The reason you gave for him being wrong was that you could also get in by making a smaller donation and having your name drawn out of a hat, which does not disprove the statement, nor does it truly disprove the intent - because it is still true that the person who makes the largest donation gets in the book, and that person also has their description put in, as well as their name. No-one has such guarantees, do they?

 

At the moment it looks like those who have donated will be Aiel.

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Even though this is a meaningless argument, and you've already lost, you still want to carry on? Good luck.
You are childish, thinking of this as a game and claiming you've won.

 

So you admit you weren't actually addressing his point?

That is not what I said.  Read what I said:

"I understood zzyzx_scarecrow to be saying "only rich people get a chance", which I knew was not the case so I said "nope"."

That was four days ago.  Then I repeated myself in another post:

"I already told you the "Nope" (and the quote after) were responses to what I thought zzyzx_scarecrow meant.  I wasn't trying to answer the literal statement on the page, but the one implied by his post.  He was being cynical, because usually only wealthy people get to do these things."

Don't quote me out of context and then blatantly misinterpret what I said.

 

The reason you gave for him being wrong was that you could also get in by making a smaller donation and having your name drawn out of a hat

I merely supplied a quote.  You misinterpreted my post.  I wasn't trying to prove him wrong.

 

which does not disprove the statement, nor does it truly disprove the intent - because it is still true that the person who makes the largest donation gets in the book

The claim was that the richest fan will get in the book.  That is completely unsupported, and I indicated that in my post.  Where do you get this idea that I need to prove what I said?  So what if the quote I supplied didn't prove that the statement was inaccurate?  It was obvious and didn't need to be disproved.  The quote had a different purpose: to show that everybody has a shot to win.

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