Create-a-Role Mafia Game Thread: Game Over!

[Myndrunner]

Sorry Barm, I meant to say Talya's submission.....

 

Roles submitted:

Exploding Pumpkin (Mynd)

Vote Stealer (Barm)

 

Roles Claimed:

Shady Vigilante (Mynd)

Obvious Finder (Dark Justice)

 

Roles Proven by Coroner:

Roleblocking Rainbow Scum/Super Miller (Barm 1)

Innocent Vote Giver (Lia)

Janitor Controller Symp (Hybrid)

Healing Mason (Dae)

Innocent Matchmaker (Moggy)

Nearly Vanilla Townie (Verbal)

 

What roles have DPR, DJ, Talya, and Danya submitted?  What roles are Barm, DPR, Talya, and Danya claiming?

[Myndrunner]

Ahhh, ok I see your submission claim, DJ. 

 

Barm, what is your role? 

 

DPR, what is your role and the one you submitted?

 

Talya, what do you have to hide by not revealing?

 

Danya, how do you respond to DJ's claim that you are scum?

 

 

[Talya]

Ok, I have been over bits and pieces. I have to say I have a bad headache right now, so I hope this makes sense.

 

Looking through, we know there are two Mafia and there is one miller. If there were two mafia, then I do not think that Pandy would give out the name of the Mafia. So it would make sense that Barm was the Miller. Yes I'm eating my own words, but then looking at things now then things for once actually seem to make more sense to me than before.

 

Now back to it. Two mafia seems quite low for a 12 person game. So they must have some good roles on top. It would make sense that one of them shows up as innocent. If there is a serial killer (which Mynd says he is) then it would also make sense that they could have a healer. Now what if that Healer was the one that showed up innocent. Now for the second. Again to add to the role then the role of vote thief would make sense and help them a bit. Looking through the votes two people died when they didn't have a majority. Barm and Moggie. The one person (well except me but I know it's not me) that is common to them is Wes. Infact Wes was the last person to put his vote on Barm and suddenly he is dead, n 7 votes only. So I think that Wes could be the second Mafia.

As for the first, well the only two not voting for Barm that first one was Thorum and Lia. Lia we know is innocent, but Thorum votes for Verb. Maybe to make himself look innocent when Barm comes up as Miller. Then he accuses DJ, why, to get himself noticed by DJ of course. Who was the next person you viewed DJ, was it Thorum (or Barm as it is now), and if he comes up innocent healer, DJ will not think that he could be mafia, not being healer.

 

I thi nk that ends my case.

 

I suspsect Wes and Barm of being the Mafai!

[MsDanya]

I'm saying offering strategics and working with a possible scum is two very different things. i've never defended Wes, I was just pointing out what I was thinking about the posts I read. I'll be back with more tomorrow. Now I need to sleep. 

 

And I submitted the Janitor role.

[cosmicpanda]

Vote Count No. 18

 

Vote Count:

 

 

Talya (0)

Danya (0)

Barmy (0)

Mynd (0)

DJ (1) - DPR

DPR (1) - Barm

 

Not voting - Danya, Talya, Mynd, DJ

 

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.

[DPR]

 

At least we are working things out now. I need to look at all of the angles of revealing roles (mine and what I submitted) but I am considering revealing to break up this log jam.

 

I just want to lay a few traps first to out the mafia. ;)

[Dark Justice]

Talya, due to post restrictions, Id like to not go into a likely modkill. I have been to close as it is.

I can only say I have no need to question my viewings.

Lets look at the mafia roles, and the strenghts on them.

 

It seems likely they have:

Extra vote. 2 mafia with 3 votes can actually be better than 3 mafia. You keep mych less tracks for anyone to link up to.

Silencer. As we have seen so far, highly effective in this game

Bomb.

 

I havve thought about recruiters, but it doesnt make sence. we would have been dead now if it was so.

If you agree to Wes being scum, atleast lets get that part overwith. Then I will view Danya tonight, to get my suspitions proved, or we can take one more of the suspitions list.

 

What you say?

Should we get to the lynching?

 

If you guys want me to, Ill take the last vote on WES myself. But if he is bomb, we wont get a viewing next night. But, if he is bomb and I go, there is 4 players left. most likely 2 innocents, one mafia and the serial killer.

So the scenario Id like to see someone voulantary go for the last WES vote.

That someone not being me.

But Ill do it though, if noone else is willing to.

[Talya]

DJ, it doesn't question your viewing, but if they had a role that when viewed showed they were innocent you wouldn't know any difference. It is there role that does that...not yours.

[Myndrunner]

I have an interesting idea.....DJ claims that DPR and Danya are both mafia.  Instead of voting for DPR, let's vote Danya instead.  If she turns out to be mafia like DJ claims, then we know he is telling the truth and I will target DPR for my Vigilante kill tonight.  If I miss, then we simply lynch him the following day...and I will do the hammer vote.  The Exploding Pumpkin, after all, was my submission.  

 

If Danya is innocent, then we should definately lynch either Barm or DJ for being lying liars who lie.  I will target one of them tonight with my Vigilante kill.  

 

You see, lynching DPR at this point wont give us any information on who the other mafia is. If he is the exploding pumpkin and he is innocent, then we lose TWO innocents in the lynch, and the game is over.

 

Lynching Danya is less risky in that folks are not pushing for her lynch.  So, lets see who is the lying liar who lies, shall we?     [glow=red,2,300]Danya[/glow]

[Dark Justice]

No mynd. That is silly.. I have not viewed her.. so I cant guarantee it. Im fairly certain she is, but where we are now in the game, it does not make scence.

At the moment, neither are you.

[Barmacral]

Mynd, the difference is, Danya is a hunch whereas DPR is a viewing. Lynching Danya will not prove us to be liars, it'll just prove that we were wrong.

[Myndrunner]

Wait a minute, hold the phone.  DJ was CERTAIN that Danya was mafia earlier, now its just a hunch?  And Barmy coming to DJ's rescue all of a sudden?  What is going on here? 

 

Either you know Danya is mafia or you know she isn't.  At this point in the game, you can't say we should lynch someone tomorrow if you don't know for sure.  You say we should lynch Danya because shes mafia, but then its just a hunch?  I thought you didn't doubt your viewings.....I am beginning to think the two of you are mafia and were hoping that lynching DPR would win the game for you. 

 

DPR, if you are the Exploding Pumpkin, now would be the best time to reveal. 

[Barmacral]

No Mynd, if you go back and read, DJ never was certain, she was just his strongest suspect.

[Myndrunner]

Ok. I give up. You guys are gonna lose us the game. Why, If you want me to, Ill [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] and take that last vote on WES myself. That is how sure I am. Just make sure you lynch Danya afterwards...

 

NO! He was SURE!  Look at this direct quote!  "Make sure you lynch Danya afterwards!"

[Barmacral]

Thats because he believes she's mafia based on his own personal opinions of the gameplay. He never figured this from a viewing, thats why your plan doesn't work, he doesn't know that she's mafia, he just thinks she is.

Wes he was told is mafia from a viewing.

 

I believe Danya is mafia too, and I have made my case about it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stake it on as risky a plan as you've provided.

[Dark Justice]

Mynd, I have never claimed I have viewed Danya. But yes, both me and Barm have come to the conclution that she most likely is.

How many times have you been certain someone was mafia, and it turned out to be wrong? Thats, like I said, Id like to go with known mafia for this lynch, and then view her to confirm my sertainty.

We can not afford to lose this lynch. We can not.

 

damn, came another post.

Because she is the most likely kantidate, due to my viewings. By taking the once I have viewed, seeing who is left, and who is not viewed, she is MOST LIKELY the mafia.

If I am not around, cause I die from a bomb, I would want you to go after the one I am certain is the mafia.

Certain does not count untill viewed. But with no finder, its the best you got.

 

[Myndrunner]

Which is it, DJ?  Are you certain that Danya is mafia or is it a hunch?  Why are the two of you so gung ho about us lynching DPR?  Is it because Barm is the vote thief?  He already has his extra vote so whoever thinks they are next to last...is really the last to vote? 

 

The way I see it, DJ chose the least active player left in the game.....Danya.  Why not? She would not likely be around to defend herself when the DPR bandwagon gets going.  DJ and Barm know that if we lynch DPR successfully, then it puts them in a position to win by tomorrow.  Remember, they did not know about my vigilante deal until after this push.  They figured that with a lynch on DPR and then a successful night kill, they would win.  2 mafia vs 2 innocents. 

 

So, I ask you again....if you are CERTAIN that Danya is mafia....why won't you vote her?

[Barmacral]

I won't vote her because I'm more certain of Wes than of Danya, so why vote on a hunch when you have a fact? And frankly Mynd, if I was the vote thief this day would be over already, we had 3 votes for a long enough time with Pandy around that a 4th would have been counted.

[Dark Justice]

I KNOW WES IS MAFIA!

I dont know that Danya is. I am, lets say, after hunching, all my other viewings, 98% certain Dania is mafia.

 

Is that clear?

[Myndrunner]

I don't know if I buy all of this.  I would like to hear what DPR has to say before persuing this any further.....

[Talya]

Mynd, he didn't say he had viewed, but I think he was intimating that he hadn't and that everyone else was accounted for apart from her. Which is why he suspects her. But He says he has ACTUALLY viewed Wes and he comes up as Mafia, which is totally different.

 

I'm still not sure she is, as I still think there us a possibility of there being someone who when viewed will come up innocent.

 

I also actually jump to conclusions earlier. For some reason I thought there was only 5 of us left and that mean t three votes to lynch, which was one if the reasons I thought it odd Barm jumped in with the vote behind me so quick. But there are six left (not sure who I missed out) so it is four votes! Aghhh!!! I think insanity is slowly setting in!

 

I'm going to go back with [glow=red,2,300]Wes[/glow], as if the other is Danya we can go for her tomorrow if need be, or Barm!

[Dark Justice]

soo... Im gonna go back with my original [glow=red,2,300]WES[/glow] vote, and see if Mynd is willing to prove his innocense with the hammer vote.

[Myndrunner]

soo... Im gonna go back with my original [glow=red,2,300]WES[/glow] vote, and see if Mynd is willing to prove his innocense with the hammer vote.

 

Prove my innocence, indeed.  If you really were the finder, you would know that I am innocent.  That's the only way you could be so sure about Danya.  I'm telling you, we are being played here....and now he wants ME to be the hammer vote on the Exploding Pumpkin that I created. 

 

Talya, we only have DJ's word that Wes is mafia....we don't know this for certain.  If he was telling the truth about his viewings, then he would know for certain that Danya is mafia. If he got viewings of the rest of us, and only Danya is left, then by shear process of elimenation Danya must be mafia.  So why won't he vote her?

 

Because he has been lying the whole time.  He and Barmy are mafia together and they are playing us. 

[Myndrunner]

....I was just playin.  ;D

 

[glow=red,2,300]DPR[/glow]

 

That's game!  Good job everyone, and great game CP!  I had a lot of fun. 

[cosmicpanda]

Vote Count No. 19

 

Vote Count:

 

 

Talya (0)

Danya (0)

Barmy (0)

Mynd (0)

DJ (1) - DPR

DPR (4) - Barm, Talya, DJ, Mynd

 

Not voting - Danya

 

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.