Through a glass, darkly

[Bob T Dwarf]

Well, anything you might say about it is only meaningful IF your underlying precepts are correct.

 

Until we know the particulars of what happened to Lanfear from the time we lost sight of her, any theory we could construct would be circular.  A is true, therefore B is true, and consequently C is true only has meaning IF A and B are both true. 

 

Until we know what really happened there is no way to prove the underlying postulates A and B.  So, until we know those things C has no discernible meaning whatsoever because the value of C depends entirely upon the values of the unknowns, A and B.

 

In point of fact, we don't even know that Lanfear died.  All we know is that Cyndane seems to have Lanfear's memories.  According to your own bodyswap theory, Moridin's  living soul is somehow going to transfer into Rand's living body.  If that proves to be true, then all theories about the difference between Lanfear's strength and Cyndane's strength that depend on Lanfear first dying, go completely out the window.

 

So, prove your underlying postulates.  Start with proving that Lanfear was either burned out or severed.  Then prove that she died.

[Luckers]

Sorry champ, not nessasary. You stated that only through understanding Lanfears death could we postulate on her weakened strength. The severing theory does not require, or involve her death--it occured, but it was not involved in why her strength was weakened.

 

So, prove your underlying postulates.  Start with proving that Lanfear was either burned out or severed.  Then prove that she died.

 

The first is self evident, the second unnessasary--though likely.

[Bob T Dwarf]

Nothing self-evident about it.

 

Severing and same-sex healing is only one possible explanation.  Jordan was very fond of repeatedly showing us that there is always more than one way to skin any cat.  It could also be that the body she's in is incapable of sustaining the strength she used to have.  It could be that Moridin has her on the same kind of leash she used on Asmodean.  Strong enough to be useful, but not strong enough to be challenging.

 

It could be due to something we haven't even learned about yet.

 

Point being, until we know what happened after we lost sight of her, we have to keep an open mind.  We can't mark this as finished business and pigeonhole it.

[DemandredFO]

I'm sorry, where exactly does the bodyswap come in, Cydane is Lanfear therefore lanfear died.  Bob, Moridin and Rand have a connection and are two different people, Lanfear and Cyndane are the same person.

[benr]

I'm sorry, where exactly does the bodyswap come in, Cydane is Lanfear therefore lanfear died.  Bob, Moridin and Rand have a connection and are two different people, Lanfear and Cyndane are the same person.

 

Absolutely true, but as Bob says we have no way of knowing HOW Lanfear beacme Cyndane; only conjecture.  If Lanfear died, how?  Who did it?  Why?  Luckers could be right; it may have no impact on Cyndane and her power level, but it could.  Do you think this will be explained when Moiraine is rescued?

[Mr Ares]

Severing and same-sex healing is only one possible explanation. Jordan was very fond of repeatedly showing us that there is always more than one way to skin any cat.

The only possible explanation we have evidence supporting. We have no evidence of anything else reducing strength in the same manner as that seen in Cyndane besides the examples of Siuan and Leane. Which was my original point. We have no evidence of anything else.

[Bob T Dwarf]

As with everything in WOT, we don't have complete evidence about healing the ability to channel.  Look around and note all of the battles that have been fought about whether healing severing means that healing burnout is also possible.

 

We also have the example of Asmodean.  Until we know what actually happened to Lanfear, we can't even begin to guess whether Cyndane's lower strength represents something permanent or only temporary.

 

So, saying it's all self-evident or that there is only one possible explanation is nonsense.