Good vs. Not so Good- Newbie Mafia

[False Dragon]

How ironic.

 

We try so hard to lynch someone and have info for Day 2, and what do you know?  It's like Day 1 again, only we're missing two people.

[SBoydW]

Vote Count

 

Kryos (1) False Dragon

Dark Justice (1) Kryos

 

With 10 alive it takes six to lynch

[Loreina]

Pardon me while I try a summary:

 

Thorum votes GC random

Tig votes Mirlishea by Loki’s rule

Kryos votes Thorum, then unvotes him a few minutes later

Deadline for day is set sometime Friday 9am-12 pm

Sorandha votes Kryos and about 10 minutes later unvotes him

Dark votes FD at random

Sorandha reminds Soy that she unvoted Kryos

ilgross votes FD at random

Kryos votes for Tig

Gryph votes Kryos

Min votes Tigara and points out that Tig has posted

bcx votes Tig

Soy Boyo talks night action

Thorum unvotes and votes Tig

FD votes Kryos

DJ unvotes and votes Tig to get things rolling

ilgross votes Tig

FD unvotes and votes Tig

Tig claims Healer

FD and Kryos unvote Tig

Loreina votes ilgross

Mr. Boyo says a 'no vote' is allowed. Gives the Deadline as 9 AM EST Nov 2nd

Lead vote getter is Tigara with 5.

Min unvotes

FD votes Kryos

Kryos votes FD

Mirlishea votes ilgross

Min points to bcx as suspicious due to not unvoting the ‘healer’ and votes bcx

Kryos votes bcx

Loreina unvotes ilgross

Loreina observes that the original deadline has passed and recaps the voting

Thorum unvotes and votes Gryphan then questions the deadline comment

Loreina quotes Mr. Soy Boyo for Thorum

Mr. Boyo tells the survivors that the deceased Tig was an innocent

Sorandha is night-killed

FD votes Kryos

Kryos votes DJ

Mr.Boyo gives Vote Count: Kryos (1)False Dragon, Dark Justice (1)Kryos

With 10 alive it takes six to lynch

 

I'll leave the analysis to you.  ;D

[bcxanth]

I was hoping maybe we'd have some activity while I was gone. :P

 

Ok, well I know that if I was Finder, as soon as I got my results back I'd post to lynch that person.  Also if I was finder I would try to make it seem random in order to keep my cover going as long as possible. So for those reasons alone, and lack of anything better for now, I'm voting for [glow=red,2,300]Kryos[/glow].

 

When does Day 2 end?

[Kryos]

And bcxanth, what if that person the finder viewed was an innocent? What then?

[bcxanth]

I know you're right. But like FD said, we might as well be back to Day 1 now. So I'm just hoping I'm right. *shrug*

[Dark Justice]

well. Im just gonna go with a feeling here. [glow=red,2,300]bcx[/glow] It was just so weird the entire voting and not unvoting tigara. I didnt unvote either, but I was not connected after his claim. Good the real healer didnt go out to counterclaim. could have hurt bad.

[bcxanth]

What do you mean you weren't connected after his claim?

[Thorum]

Probably the same like me, no possibility to get on the internet between the claim and the deadline

[bcxanth]

Ahh.  Well, like I said before, I was giving the real Healer time to claim. I had a feeling Tig wasn't being honest. Turns out I was right, but the real Healer never showed.  I just went with my gut that he was lying, and figured only an evil would lie about it.

[ilgross]

[glow=red,2,300]bcx[/glow] for wanting the real healer to claim

[bcxanth]

Why wouldn't I want the real Healer to claim?  Because then it would have been proof that Tig was evil.  Just because I was wrong about that part, doesn't invalidate the rest of theory, as I had a feeling he was lying about being Healer.

[Kryos]

You know, bcx is starting to look fishy now. Sorry bcx, even with a false claim, you don't want the real healer to claim, then it makes the healers job more difficult. Because then if you get stuck with a finder claim, the healer is known and a 50/50 chance the healer will die or the finder will die depending on how the healer and mafia choose their night actions. And since you are going on about wanting the healer to claim, then we can automatically assume you are not the healer. Your comment saying the finder should vote for whomever they viewed shows you aren't the finder either cause you'd have taken into consideration the fact that the finder may have viewed an innocent or even the healer instead of a mafia.

 

[glow=red,2,300]bcxanth[/glow]

[bcxanth]

And why would I give away that I'm not Finder or Healer if I was Mafia?  The only thing that keeps a Mafia members safe, or anyone else, is the possibility that they might be the Finder or the Healer.

 

Go ahead and lynch me. I don't mind. :)  At least y'all are using a reason for your votes now.  But when you find out I'm innocent, you'll know that you need to stop looking at the surface of the issue. :P

[ilgross]

You don't have a role and you wanted them to reveal = bad.

[SBoydW]

Vote Count

 

Kryos (2) False Dragon, bcx

Dark Justice (1) Kryos

bcx (3) Dark Justice, ilgross,  Kryos

 

With 10 alive it takes six to lynch

 

Deadline for day two will be some time Tuesday night. (specific time to come at a later date)

[Loreina]

Kryos gets two votes? 

Just for that [glow=red,2,300]Kryos[/glow]  :D

 

 

[bcxanth]

I knew Tig was lying and so wanted the real Healer to step up?  Yeah, because I thought he was evil and so wanted the proof to kill him. Note that I was right that he was lying.  I never said I wanted the Finder to revel themselves. The Finder can go after an evil they found without revealing they are the Finder. Revealing should always be the last resort, done either to save yourself, or to expose an evil.

 

But hey, whatever floats your boat guys. :)

 

Corrected vote count (You forgot that Kryos switched his vote to me, leaving Dark with no votes :) )

 

bcxanth (3): Dark, ilgross, Kryos

Kryos (3): FD, bcxanth, Loreina

 

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

 

The only problem I see is that when you kill me off and you find out I'm innocent that will leave 9 players left, and based on usual numbering, probably 3 of them are evils.  With no Finder stepping up to get someone lynched, which can be done without revealing themselves, means they didn't find an evil, and so are either silent or bandwagoning me for lack of anything else to do.

 

So here's what's most likely going to happen:

 

Day 2: Myself lynched, 6 innocents and 3 evils left.

 

Night 2: Good odds of the evils picking another random person and having the kill stick, leaving 5 innoncents and 3 evils.

 

Day 3: At this point you now have to hope and pray your Finder found an evil and campaigns for someone, or y'all get lucky on another random lynch. With a 5 out of 8 chance, odds are still in the favor of the random lynch getting an innocent though. This will leave 4 innocents and 3 evils.

 

Night 3: The evils will have 4 people two chose from. 25% chance of getting blocked, but odds still in their favor. We'll say the night kill sticks.  That leaves them at 3 innocents and 3 evils.  Evils win. Game over.

 

So, do whatever you wants, it's up to you.  Even if you don't lynch me today, unless we get lucky that only makes us last one more day, and then only if we got an evil today.  But at least by not lynching me yo have a better chance of getting someone that actually is evil.

 

As a side note, at this point I don't think False is evil, but don't think he's the Finder either. Or if he is, he didn't find an evil.

 

Keeping my vote with Kryos though because he seems to still think I want the Healer to claim, which I don't. Now that Tig is gone there's no need.  He also seems to think I shouldn't want the Finder to vote for a person if they found out they were evil?  Makes no sense. Why wouldn't I?  I never said they had to say they were the Finder, just that they'd vote for that person if they found an evil.

 

Also ilgross is on my list now for basically saying anyone that doesn't have a role and wanted to know the truth about Tig is evil. That makes no sense to me.

 

So yeah, for saying things that don't make sense to me, those two are on my suspicion list.  I have no reading one way or another on anyone else, not even Dark. He's just hopping on a bandwagon because there's nothing else to go on.

[Minuet]

I am back in town and trying to get caught up on the mafia games I am playing. Wow, Tig sorry about that, but you lied!! I so unvoted because I didn't want to risk lynching the healer. So, regardless of his false claim, it is always better to unvote and then you can always vote later if a counter claim is presented. You can't risk a possible healer getting lynched, hunches of guilt or not. That is unless you are evil and want them lynched. That was the point I was trying to make. The fact that BCX posted and did not unvote. I would think it important to unvote and then see what happens. By not unvoting he risked us lynching the healer. Now, the fact that Tig lied really gets me. That is strange for a roleless innocent.

Okay, so reading over everything and thank you for the synopsis on page 11, Loreina! Soranda I am so sorry you got night killed.

I think Kyros, BCX and FD are all looking suspicious to me. However, FD and Kyros both can't be evil or they wouldn't have this feud going on. That is unless it is to distract us. Not something I would do if I were evil, but hey you never know.

For now I will vote.......

 

[glow=red,2,300]bcxanth[/glow]

 

because out of everyone he is the one that I am feeling the most uncomfortable about.

[bcxanth]

At this point then, I ask that two other people please vote for me.  I'm innocent, and so don't want to die, but it's going to happen anyway.  The bandwagon is built, and has 4 of 6 passengers.  Please just get it over.

 

Just remember, when this is over, whoever the Finder is, check ilgross Kryos. One of them, if not both, are evil. With that said, it's been a pleasure playing with you all. :)  Good luck, and hopefully things won't go as badly as I predicted. But lynching an innocent the second day in a row is a really bad trend. By Day 3 you're going to have 4 innocents killed most likely.  But hey, have fun. :)

[ilgross]

Bxc we know we have to lynch innocents, pointing that out doesn't make you look any more innocent. And I'm not saying we should lynch everyone who is roleless, but given that you wanted the real healer to reveal is either very bad play or scumish.

 

A healer revealing may of proven Tig's guilt, but it would of lost us the game by killing our real healer/finder when he next revealed.

[bcxanth]

Eh, I guess it's a matter of perspective.  The way I saw it, Tig was lying and the Healer revealing would have proven he was evil. 1st evil gone, only 2 left. Healer revealed, but the Healer can heal themself, keeping themself safe. As long as the Finder doesn't reveal, they're as safe as anyone else.  Seems like it would have bettered our odds.

[Kryos]

bcx, that would be a yes and a no. As I pointed out in a previous post.. You don't want anyone revealing day one who is legit, it makes things easier on the mafia. If the healer had revealed, then the mafia would have it narrowed down further and be able to know who not to target taking away the chance of us having a night kill free night, which right now we still have a chance of, which is a very good thing indeed. We don't want that possibility taken away in the slightest as it would be advantageous to have that happen.

 

Keeping my vote with Kryos though because he seems to still think I want the Healer to claim, which I don't. Now that Tig is gone there's no need.  He also seems to think I shouldn't want the Finder to vote for a person if they found out they were evil?  Makes no sense. Why wouldn't I?  I never said they had to say they were the Finder, just that they'd vote for that person if they found an evil.

 

Also ilgross is on my list now for basically saying anyone that doesn't have a role and wanted to know the truth about Tig is evil. That makes no sense to me.

 

So yeah, for saying things that don't make sense to me, those two are on my suspicion list.  I have no reading one way or another on anyone else, not even Dark. He's just hopping on a bandwagon because there's nothing else to go on.

Just to clarify, I never said you still want the healer to claim. I said you wanted the healer to claim. And I never said the finder wouldn't vote for someone if they found out they were evil, I pointed out the fact that the finder may have investigated an innocent, so that would completely knock out the point of the finder making a sure vote and keep them from being able to discern still who is evil and who isn't.

[bcxanth]

Ok, my misunderstanding then on your reasoning. I apologize.

 

But as for the revealing, I understand where you're coming from.  But I just had a feeling Tig was lying. I was right.  We just see the game different ways is all.  No worries.  Eventually two more people will come along and vote for me like I asked.  Y'all will know for sure I'm innocent, and then hopefully day 3 won't be another wasted day or the evils win.

[Thorum]

I'm gonna put my vote on [glow=red,2,300]kryos[/glow] (it was on gryphan, though boy missed it).

 

Why?

- one of the evils ought to be experienced

- I don't see any reason to give bcx such a headway before kryos as our lynch