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Death in the Artic - Mafia Game!

ilgross

By ilgross
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Dark Justice

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Sorry for bad language.

 

Still cant find any good reason for using a kill like that.

We lost our finder. That is just horrible. But I dont understand the Vem - FDM thing. How could he get the answers he did, when she was the finder. Or if he lied. Why? He was innocent. It is just weird. All of it. Are you laughing at us Ilgross???

 

I think this is a sign that whoever was recruited was a daytime Vig. This is very very bad.

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Toy and Minion Spam Master

Toy and Minion

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Okay, I realise that this is crucial and that it needs to be figured out, but we can't get caught up in it.  That's what happened in the Double Blind, and that's what happened in the Nuthouse.  We need to stay calm and see the big picture rather than focusing on one brush stroke.

 

What we know:

 

DPR was an evil Serial Killer.

 

Vemynal was a Cop/Vig who viewed FDM as the Captains killer.

 

Kryos was innocent.

 

Talya was innocent.

 

FDM was an Innocent Finder.

 

The question that truly comes to mind is, why?  Why Kryos.  Why Talya?  Perhaps a couple re-reads will give some answers?  Were they a threat?  Or were they random?

 

I for one doubt that they would kill randomly.  I prefer to look at it that every kill has a purpose.  So why?  That's what I'm going to look for.

Alys Kinch Spam Master

Alys Kinch

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What good am I going to be as captain when there is a recruiter out there who is going to bluff into getting me killed by not taking the most obvious person or take me and get me killed?

 

A word of caution. We may need to take the color coding with a grain of salt. I know that DPR came up red, but that was possibly a slip. Ilgross did say we weren't supposed to get alignment reveals, just roles.*going to find the link to post* Multiple teams would potentially cause evils to die at night at the other team's hands, not to mention assassins or the apparent daytime vig hit. Maybe our assumption that vem was innocent was wrong.

 

Moving on. Who would have felt so threatened that they would off Far right as I cautioned about the speed of the lynch and Dark unvoted? DJ unvoting would have to be a double bluff were it him. Boyo was the first to really jump on Far this morning. And the most admant about it. The bad thing is that everyone else had exactly the same reasoning. Even people who never voted.

 

Players voting Far: FDM: leelou, dj, twitch, boyo

 

Let's slow down a moment and see if there is anyone else you guys find suspicious.

 

Alive:

Alys Kinch - Captain

Twitch

Leelou

Sirayn

Mr. Soy Boyo

Dark Justice

DSage

Danya

Thorum

Safir

Barmacral

MsDanya Spam Master

MsDanya

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or its just colors to highlight the names...

 

ok, so we dont really know from what Ilgross wrote in the scene that either of them is innocent. can just as well be another cop or anotehr serialkiller that the mafia got? without roles, we dont really know.

Dark Justice Community Regular

Dark Justice

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Alys: If that was a double bluff, it might possibly have been the worst ever.  ;)

 

So you are probably right Alys. You cautioning people and me unvoting might have scared someone. Doesnt bring us closer to who it might be thoug.

 

Unless: Someone killing off FDM like that have probably voted her.

In other words: leelou, twitch, boyo or me is likely to be bad.

I know where I stand, so I have to focus on fining out who of the other 3 were so afraid of her continue living.

 

And why would you think so Twich?

Twitchy Veteran

Twitchy

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It's the only logical explanation.

Why would vem get a PM saying that FDM is the captain's killer, if she clearly wasn't?

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Wait.

SoB.

Sirayn can give PM's via the mod.

Vem got a false PM.

Anybody see connection?

Unless he's just a dumb cop.

 

Alys Kinch Spam Master

Alys Kinch

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DJ, I was merely exploring possibilities. Some people might try to play something like that off. *shrugs* I don't know. Don't forget, we can't discount those who didn't vote either. The silent adherents to the movement would be harder to find.

 

More confusing is that ilgross says he's not coronering, then he does. *pokes the mod* It is better this way though. We have definates.

 

Twitch, I don't think Sira would be able to pull something like that off. First, how would Sira know who he viewed? Risky if she didn't. He could have viewed anyone. Communication would mean they each knew the other was innocent, I would think. I think we have to take bad cop route...

 

Regardless, I do think the Captain's Killer is just as important to ferret out as the mafia. Oh, and maybe that person is the daytime assassin?

Thorum Spam Master

Thorum

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Either the finder-reveals give completely random results, or there is no recruiter working.

 

Why do I think so? I asked ilgross whether someone turned at night will show up to his previous or future allignement when he/she's findered that same night.

 

This has some interesting connotations about everyone findered...

Sirayn Experienced

Sirayn

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I'm fixed now. Thoughts on the day's events coming up after I address this little quote:

 

Why would vem get a PM saying that FDM is the captain's killer, if she clearly wasn't? (...)

Sirayn can give PM's via the mod.

Vem got a false PM.

Anybody see connection?

 

Er ... no, I don't see a connection.

 

1. How did I know that Vemynal was a finder?

2. How did I know that he investigated Far Dareis Mai?

3. How did I find this out before I took my night one night actions?

4. Why didn't I kill Vemynal on night one - with the night kill you presumably think I have - instead of playing games with fake PMs?

5. What happened to the genuine investigation results PM from ilgross?

Sirayn Experienced

Sirayn

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Either the finder-reveals give completely random results, or there is no recruiter working.

 

Why do I think so? I asked ilgross whether someone turned at night will show up to his previous or future allignement when he/she's findered that same night.

 

This has some interesting connotations about everyone findered...

 

I don't understand how a PM you sent to ilgross has any bearing on other people's finder results. Did you miss a sentence here? Did you, by any chance, get a reply? ???

Leelou Spam Master

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Twitch I don't see any connection with Sirayn's random pm's and Vem's findering of FDM night one.

 

Thorum did you get a response back from ilgross yet and if you have without quoting it what did it say?

Thorum Spam Master

Thorum

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Either the finder-reveals give completely random results, or there is no recruiter working.

 

Why do I think so? I asked ilgross whether someone turned at night will show up to his previous or future allignement when he/she's findered that same night.

 

This has some interesting connotations about everyone findered...

 

I don't understand how a PM you sent to ilgross has any bearing on other people's finder results. Did you miss a sentence here? Did you, by any chance, get a reply? ???

 

The response stated that he was ignorant of the answer to that question. The only two things I can see this to mean are

- no one can get turned

- finder results are completely random

 

If you know another possibility, please tell me, but I don't see it.

 

Sorry I forgot that. Yes, I can be stupid. :-[

MsDanya Spam Master

MsDanya

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I doubt Finder results are random. then you can just as well have no finder at all. and even tho there have been some confusion about roles and stuff, I still say I think we can trust that both Alys and DSage is innocent.

 

but the no recruiter thing might work.

 

 

SBoydW Spam Master

SBoydW

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well I figure that would wipe the blank stares off people's faces and make them do something other than twiddle their thumbs.  Let's go people!

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