Removing an a'dam

[Lune]

I'm a bit confused on this point actually. In TGH, Egwene attempts to remove her collar on her own and fails because the a'dam causes so much pain at the thought and attempt of removing it. But later down the line, Mat teaches one of the Windfinders to remove the a'dam and makes her practice doing it twice without any of the aforementioned side effects. What's up with that? Is it a plot hole?

[dragonlover]

i always assumed that it was after he had took it off her that he taught her howed to open it

[Majsju]

Mat removes the collar from the windfinder, and teach her how to remove it so she can free the rest. She is not wearing the a'dam when doing this, she never puts it back on after Mat frees her.

[Guest cwestervelt]

Mat removes the collar from the windfinder, and teach her how to remove it so she can free the rest. She is not wearing the a'dam when doing this, she never puts it back on after Mat frees her.

 

That is how I remembered it too.  Wasn't going to post it until I had a chance to verify my facts though.

[Hagazussa]

This confused me to. It is one of the few places in the books that JR writes things very confusing, a few extra words had made it allot more clear that the a'dam had been taken of the Windfinder at that point. But then what would life be whiteout little things in books to try to wrap ones head around.

[GrandpaG]

This confused me to. It is one of the few places in the books that JR writes things very confusing, a few extra words had made it allot more clear that the a'dam had been taken of the Windfinder at that point. But then what would life be whiteout little things in books to try to wrap ones head around.

 

Hi there.  Long time no "see".  Just imagine that you have about 50 years worth of stuff floating around inside your head and then you fill it up even more with 13 full length books of information (counting the Guide).  The book store salesman wanted me to start a different series while I'm waiting for A Memory of Light to come out.  I don't think so.  Dragonmount is sufficient.  :)

[Hagazussa]

You do have a point.

[Darkness Incarnated]

This confused me to. It is one of the few places in the books that JR writes things very confusing, a few extra words had made it allot more clear that the a'dam had been taken of the Windfinder at that point. But then what would life be whiteout little things in books to try to wrap ones head around.

 

Hi there.  Long time no "see".  Just imagine that you have about 50 years worth of stuff floating around inside your head and then you fill it up even more with 13 full length books of information (counting the Guide).  The book store salesman wanted me to start a different series while I'm waiting for A Memory of Light to come out.  I don't think so.  Dragonmount is sufficient.  :)

 

I only have half of your years, but I can't tell you enough how right you are. And the salesman in my case won the battle, and I took up a whole bunch of others books.

Ever drank too much water (or something else ;D), and tried jumping around? That noise your stomach makes, like a half-full jug, is what my head feels like, with mixed bits of A Song of Ice and Fire, the Sword of Truth, and many others.

I tell you, it's not good for your health.

[Hagazussa]

I only have half of your years, but I can't tell you enough how right you are. And the salesman in my case won the battle, and I took up a whole bunch of others books.

 

Hehe, yes, here to. Well I have always read allot of fantasy and science fiction books, there is always something new in the store I want to read. It do fill ones head up. :)

[Mr Ares]

This confused me to. It is one of the few places in the books that JR writes things very confusing, a few extra words had made it allot more clear that the a'dam had been taken of the Windfinder at that point. But then what would life be whiteout little things in books to try to wrap ones head around.

It was clear enough, and would you really appreciate the series more if it were written for those of somewhat diminished intelligence?

This confused me to. It is one of the few places in the books that JR writes things very confusing, a few extra words had made it allot more clear that the a'dam had been taken of the Windfinder at that point. But then what would life be whiteout little things in books to try to wrap ones head around.

Hi there.  Long time no "see".  Just imagine that you have about 50 years worth of stuff floating around inside your head and then you fill it up even more with 13 full length books of information (counting the Guide).  The book store salesman wanted me to start a different series while I'm waiting for A Memory of Light to come out.  I don't think so.  Dragonmount is sufficient.  :)

I only have half of your years, but I can't tell you enough how right you are. And the salesman in my case won the battle, and I took up a whole bunch of others books.

Ever drank too much water (or something else ;D), and tried jumping around? That noise your stomach makes, like a half-full jug, is what my head feels like, with mixed bits of A Song of Ice and Fire, the Sword of Truth, and many others.

I tell you, it's not good for your health.

Bah! Weaklings! I've read a lot fantsy since WOT, and I remember it better than a lot of people on this board, it seems. And I'm twice Gramps' age, give or take a bit, so stop using age as an excuse.

[RobertAlexWillis]

And I'm twice Gramps' age, give or take a bit, so stop using age as an excuse.

 

LOL ... if I remember correctly, that "bit" that you're giving or taking would be more than the lifetime of most of the people here, myself included.

 

That said, I rather enjoy keeping Jordan, Martin, Erikson, Bakker, Feist, McCaffery, Aspirin, Rosenberg, Asimov, Brin, Bear, Farland, Brooks, Eddings, Silverberg, Williams, Modesitt, Lackey, LeGuin, Elliot, Rawn, Kurtz, Kay, et cetera, not to mention Tolkein and Lewis, or classics like Homer and Ovid and Dante and Ol' Shakey, and all the crap lit professors made me read (like bloody Jane flaming Austen) plus the good stuff like Dostoyevsky or Tolstoy or Faulkner or Chaucer or Dickens or Eliot, or blah blah blah ad nauseam all in their separate places.

 

Of course, if I had ever written that sentence for one of my professors ...

[Mr Ares]

And I'm twice Gramps' age, give or take a bit, so stop using age as an excuse.

 

LOL ... if I remember correctly, that "bit" that you're giving or taking would be more than the lifetime of most of the people here, myself included.

 

That said, I rather enjoy keeping Jordan, Martin, Erikson, Bakker, Feist, McCaffery, Aspirin, Rosenberg, Asimov, Brin, Bear, Farland, Brooks, Eddings, Silverberg, Williams, Modesitt, Lackey, LeGuin, Elliot, Rawn, Kurtz, Kay, et cetera, not to mention Tolkein and Lewis, or classics like Homer and Ovid and Dante and Ol' Shakey, and all the crap lit professors made me read (like bloody Jane flaming Austen) plus the good stuff like Dostoyevsky or Tolstoy or Faulkner or Chaucer or Dickens or Eliot, or blah blah blah ad nauseam all in their separate places.

 

Of course, if I had ever written that sentence for one of my professors ...

Last I remember, I was "older" than 94 (in the Mattin Stepanneos structured thread, with the older being left unspecified), and Gramps was about 53, so unless my grasp of maths has diminshed, or you're younger than 12...Of course, you could be referencing my "immeasurably ancient" line that I occasionally use in quotes, and that is, after all, completely true...ish. And plenty of good authors there, young RAW, and I'm glad to see at least one other author can keep a lot of book details separate from each other.

[RobertAlexWillis]

Last I remember, I was "older" than 94 (in the Mattin Stepanneos structured thread, with the older being left unspecified), and Gramps was about 53, so unless my grasp of maths has diminshed, or you're younger than 12 ...

 

Apparently I don't remember correctly, since I had a 7 where that 9 is.  Its nice to see a fiery ancient out and about though.  Reminds me of my great-grandmother.

[lou]

back in the day in my own high school years, my school offered greek and norse mythology as an english credit, along with science fiction. foolish mortals who wonder where they went wrong with my generation......this information has been laying dormant in my head all these years just waiting for a movie like the 300 to be released.

[Mr Ares]

Last I remember, I was "older" than 94 (in the Mattin Stepanneos structured thread, with the older being left unspecified), and Gramps was about 53, so unless my grasp of maths has diminshed, or you're younger than 12 ...

Apparently I don't remember correctly, since I had a 7 where that 9 is.  Its nice to see a fiery ancient out and about though.  Reminds me of my great-grandmother.

That's a shame, the thought of you as an advanced 12 year old was quite amusing. And being in my 70s would make me closer to 1.5 times his age than twice, so I probably would have gone with that.

back in the day in my own high school years, my school offered greek and norse mythology as an english credit, along with science fiction. foolish mortals who wonder where they went wrong with my generation......this information has been laying dormant in my head all these years just waiting for a movie like the 300 to be released.

You know Greek and Norse mythology? Then I hope you have wondered at some point what the Greek god of war is doing staying with Odin? I would be disappointed if no-one noticed.

[RobertAlexWillis]

You know Greek and Norse mythology? Then I hope you have wondered at some point what the Greek god of war is doing staying with Odin? I would be disappointed if no-one noticed.

 

Part of the first foreign exchange program.

[Mr Ares]

You know Greek and Norse mythology? Then I hope you have wondered at some point what the Greek god of war is doing staying with Odin? I would be disappointed if no-one noticed.

Part of the first foreign exchange program.

Got it in one!