What happened to the Panarch's Angreal?

[cloglord]

Where's the Angreal of the naked hairy woman that Egwene sees in the panarchs palace during CH 11 in TSR?

 

The 11 BA escapees from Tear haven't mentioned it, and presumably Moghedian could have beaten Nynaeve if she had it, so who's got it?  My next best quess was Lanfear, but if she found it when she went and saw the half melted Choden kal key, why did she need the one that Moraine set out for her at the docks?  Was there some other forsaken associated with the Tanchio plotline that I've missed?  Did RJ just forget that there was one there?

[Ealdur Tinuviel]

I dont know if RJ has forgotten it, but I certainly have/had.

 

I have no clue where its at, but I figured Id give this thread a bump until someone can answer.

[algspkr]

I hove wondered that myself.  My theory is that Moghedian saw it and decieded to let it sit in an effort to avoid drawing attention to herself, but disguised it to hide it from the black sisters.  It was burried during the battle.

[oosquaiaddict]

No way does Moghedien let an angreal just sit there. She could easily replace it with some other object, made to look the same. It was probably just sitting there and is now buried. I dont know if the BA had the skills to make out an angreal, and Nynaeve and Moghedien were kind of preoccupied with each other when they were in the Panarchs hall.

[Charlz Guybon]

Where's the Angreal of the naked hairy woman that Egwene sees in the panarchs palace during CH 11 in TSR?

 

The 11 BA escapees from Tear haven't mentioned it, and presumably Moghedian could have beaten Nynaeve if she had it, so who's got it?  My next best quess was Lanfear, but if she found it when she went and saw the half melted Choden kal key, why did she need the one that Moraine set out for her at the docks?  Was there some other forsaken associated with the Tanchio plotline that I've missed?  Did RJ just forget that there was one there?

 

I think if Moghedian or one of the Black sisters had it, she would have used it by now. Either it's still sitting there in the palace or the Seanchan have confiscated it.

[RobertAlexWillis]

I admit to being stumped by this one.  It is difficult for me to believe that Moghedien would find it, and not take it.  It is also diffcult for me to believe that she would not find what Egwene found in seconds, especially since we know for a fact that she found the other items in the room.  So ... that would lead one to the conclusion that she has it.

 

But there has been no indication that she has it.  And there surely would have been one by now ...

 

So, it seems that one of two unlikely (but not impossible) things happened.  One, she didn't find it, or two, she found it but chose to leave it for some reason.

 

Make that three (although three is so unlikely I hesitate to even include it) she does have it and has just not used it yet ... hmm ... that's VERY unlikely.

[algspkr]

I admit to being stumped by this one.  It is difficult for me to believe that Moghedien would find it, and not take it.  It is also diffcult for me to believe that she would not find what Egwene found in seconds, especially since we know for a fact that she found the other items in the room.  So ... that would lead one to the conclusion that she has it.

 

But there has been no indication that she has it.  And there surely would have been one by now ...

 

So, it seems that one of two unlikely (but not impossible) things happened.  One, she didn't find it, or two, she found it but chose to leave it for some reason.

 

Make that three (although three is so unlikely I hesitate to even include it) she does have it and has just not used it yet ... hmm ... that's VERY unlikely.

I don't see her hiding and secretly spending time with Nyneave and Elayne if she had the angreal.

[cloglord]

Now there was a period of time between when Egwene found the angreal and when the BA sisters showed up.  If Moghedian was trailing the BA sisters to see what they were up to, then it stands to reason that she would not have had the reason to look for it until the BA sisters arrived.  It is during this window that I think that it was probably removed.

 

Lanfear seems to have known about the broken Chodan Kal key, and has had a history of follwing Egwene around in TAR.  Yet, we have no indication that she had the angreal either.  We can also surmise that Sammael didn't have it, as it didn't turn up in Graendal's search of his things post CoS, and by the same logic we can disqualify Graendal as the person in possession.  Semhirage seems a likely candidate as well, since she seems to have some knowledge of a male adam in the panarch's palace.  I have to believe that she would have been more effective in the fight that led to her capture if she had an angreal in her possession though.  That just leaves Messana, and one would think that with her connections in the white tower, she could put her hands on an agreal pretty much any time she wanted to.....Unless you think one of the male forsaken had/has it....