Game Over - Hamilton Mafia - SMFDR's Win!

[Ithillian Turambar]

3 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

You knew he wasn't a Wolf so had to be Town because Day 1 you couldn't have known there was another Wolf team because a Faction game wasn't announced in setup as it is sometimes because some people refuse to play em.

Well they knew they only had the even night kill, so wondered who might have the odd night so ...

[Verbal32]

1 minute ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

That was not the reason he was modkilled.

 

He was modkilled because he was specifically asked to not refer to his previous life from before he was Lynched. Even though that was a random Lynch.

 

I'd rather not go over that.

 

And people make up fake things all the time in Mafia. Washington apparently was the dude who said he could not tell a lie so it was feasible

 

And he wanted to see which players would be comfortable with simply saying they were Town and which would not.

 

It was not your style, to be sure, but he was actively trying to find the Mafia team.

 

It's not always voting patterns and thread chat links lol

 

 

This is all fair, but it is the players' prerogative to not accept the WIFOM and want to lynch him.  I saw nothing wrong with that - it was the modkill stuff that was a problem and you handled it.

 

It just so happened that both situations took townies down and then Zander was literally alone on an island.

[Zander?]

2 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

That was not the reason he was modkilled.

 

He was modkilled because he was specifically asked to not refer to his previous life from before he was Lynched. Even though that was a random Lynch.

 

I'd rather not go over that.

 

And people make up fake things all the time in Mafia. Washington apparently was the dude who said he could not tell a lie so it was feasible

 

And he wanted to see which players would be comfortable with simply saying they were Town and which would not.

 

It was not your style, to be sure, but he was actively trying to find the Mafia team.

 

It's not always voting patterns and thread chat links lol

 

 

Again I'm not saying that was ALL he did i quoted some of his reads and takes when I was casing.  He got lunched because of mech speculation early day 1 being asked to stop and then doubling down on it with LD.  I even told him multiple times we were told by you we didn't HAVE to be familiar with the source material to be able to play the game and not be at a disadvantage.  So Washington lying thing means nothing to myself and anyone else unfamiliar with Hamilton.  He just dug too big a hole early and couldn't get out from it.  In fact I think he literally said that towards end of Day 1 IIRC.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Oh sure the players can absolutely reject the discussion of roles and set up.

 

But I wanted to clarify that was not why he was Modkilled

[Zander?]

3 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

This is all fair, but it is the players' prerogative to not accept the WIFOM and want to lynch him.  I saw nothing wrong with that - it was the modkill stuff that was a problem and you handled it.

 

It just so happened that both situations took townies down and then Zander was literally alone on an island.

 

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[Verbal32]

1 minute ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Oh sure the players can absolutely reject the discussion of roles and set up.

 

But I wanted to clarify that was not why he was Modkilled

 

Yes, it was 2 separate situations.  I think we all understand that.

[Zander?]

Just now, Ithillian Turambar said:

Oh sure the players can absolutely reject the discussion of roles and set up.

 

But I wanted to clarify that was not why he was Modkilled

 

Oh that's what some of us assumed lolololol.  Either way he was told not to do both things and got got both times lolololol

[Ithillian Turambar]

Everyone did what they did, for the reasons they did it. I'm fine with all of you having absolute free choice 

 

Everyone can play how they want and deal with the consequences of how that is perceived. 

 

And the result is the result 🙂

[Ithillian Turambar]

2 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

Again I'm not saying that was ALL he did i quoted some of his reads and takes when I was casing.  He got lunched because of mech speculation early day 1 being asked to stop and then doubling down on it with LD.  I even told him multiple times we were told by you we didn't HAVE to be familiar with the source material to be able to play the game and not be at a disadvantage.  So Washington lying thing means nothing to myself and anyone else unfamiliar with Hamilton.  He just dug too big a hole early and couldn't get out from it.  In fact I think he literally said that towards end of Day 1 IIRC.

I am interested to know though. You have explained why he was Lynched, but did you think that he was Mafia? 

[Ithillian Turambar]

2 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Yes, it was 2 separate situations.  I think we all understand that.

Some people do lol

 

Spoiler

Coughzander

 

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

Everyone did what they did, for the reasons they did it. I'm fine with all of you having absolute free choice 

 

Everyone can play how they want and deal with the consequences of how that is perceived. 

 

And the result is the result 🙂

 

I feel I should got at least a mercy pity Town win too....it was 1 v 4 at one point and I made it to final 2 with literally 0 chance to win ATP LOLOLOLOLOL 

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

I am interested to know though. You have explained why he was Lynched, but did you think that he was Mafia? 

 

If I thought he was Town. And just annoying I wouldn't have lunched him.  I don't lunch People I think are Villagers lololololol.  I felt like he was purposefully trying to WINFOMing the thread, creating chaos and confusing Town when he refused to Stop and double Down and started the LD stuff.

[Gudrean]

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

YOU DID LOLOLOLOLOL 

I didn't have any more info than you accept that Darthe was a wolf, the two wolf teams didn't know about each other

[Turin Turambar]

14 minutes ago, Zander? said:

 

I'm not saying especially since I now know he was Town he didn't think jr was trying to help.  It was asking him to stop and instead he doubles down and fake softs LD which noone believed creating yet again more Winfom lololololol.   Like it even got to a point for you Day 2 lolololol

I NEVER faked or softed anything other than Washington. It was strictly a towncentric strategy to put pressure on the mafia. It actually worked too. Except no other townies were willing to look at what people said. Even after I posted it and got killed for it. 

Spoiler

I don't agree with the "rule" you have to erase your thoughts when you replace. I do accept what happened because there was a rule. I don't really see why it's a rule but there you go. Jokes on me. Lol

 

[Ithillian Turambar]

I made you a lovely siggy to immortalise the realisation of your dream of being the only villager in the village

 

Is this all some kind of strange attempt to add 9 more pages to the thread to make it beat Among Us?

[Ithillian Turambar]

On a plus point, your solo villager run gave some outstanding wolf action in the game.

 

You really should read the Dead Thread PM.

 

 

[Zander?]

1 minute ago, Zander? said:

 

If I thought he was Town. And just annoying I wouldn't have lunched him.  I don't lunch People I think are Villagers lololololol.  I felt like he was purposefully trying to WINFOMing the thread, creating chaos and confusing Town when he refused to Stop and double Down and started the LD stuff.

 

I'm also only 1 vote lol.

 

This is a big thing but outta 4 lunches I was 3 outta 4 Wolves lunched shrug.  They had more players than Town so unless Town PRS worked almost perfectly, there we no mislunches, MK's etc and Wolves only shoot eachother unless a Town PR worked protecting a Towny we were in trouble out the gate.  As Effie would say May the Odds Ever be in Your Favor lolololol 

[Ithillian Turambar]

I was just interested personally is all. Cos now I will be playing and I wanted to see your thought process 🙂

[Zander?]

5 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

I didn't have any more info than you accept that Darthe was a wolf, the two wolf teams didn't know about each other

Gud as a Wolf you know that EVERYONE else not a Wolf with you isn't a Wolf.  Here still until the first other Wolf team does and flipped you only knew who you team was and the rest Town maybe 3 Rd Party but even that's an assumption not knowing till you have a flip. You know everyone not on your team is a different alignment and in 95% roughly % of the time it's a Towny.  

[Gudrean]

at start it was 

5 town  dpr/key/turin/zander/cass

3 wolf  hallia/verb/dice

2 wolf  darthe/gud

1 3P seph

 

D3 it was

1 town zander

2 wolf dice/verb

2 wolf - because 3p became a part of my wolf team  gud/seph

[Zander?]

2 minutes ago, Ithillian Turambar said:

I was just interested personally is all. Cos now I will be playing and I wanted to see your thought process 🙂

 

You just got it because Im not playing I'm retired closest to playing is maybe I'll spec the odd game and play along.

[Zander?]

Just now, Gudrean said:

at start it was 

5 town  dpr/key/turin/zander/cass

3 wolf  hallia/verb/dice

2 wolf  darthe/gud

1 3P seph

 

D3 it was

1 town zander

2 wolf dice/verb

2 wolf - because 3p became a part of my wolf team  gud/seph

 

Correct.  You ofc didn't know ALL that till end game.

 

So there's 6 total Wolves and a 3rd Party.

 

So there's 7 Non Town and 5 Town. With recruit that's 5v4v3 at worst. And 6 v3 v3 at best.

[Gudrean]

2 minutes ago, Zander? said:

Gud as a Wolf you know that EVERYONE else not a Wolf with you isn't a Wolf.  Here still until the first other Wolf team does and flipped you only knew who you team was and the rest Town maybe 3 Rd Party but even that's an assumption not knowing till you have a flip. You know everyone not on your team is a different alignment and in 95% roughly % of the time it's a Towny.  

nah darthe and I assumed since we have even NK there had to be either another wolf team or some 3rd party players but we still had to figure it out just like everyone else

[Ithillian Turambar]

Yeah it's a shame Eliza was killed cos she had the ability to try and build a strong town core

[Gudrean]

4 minutes ago, Gudrean said:

   at start it was 

  5 town  dpr/key/turin/zander/cass

  3 wolf  hallia/verb/dice

  2 wolf  darthe/gud

  1 3P seph

 

D3 it was

1 town zander

2 wolf dice/verb

2 wolf - because 3p became a part of my wolf team  gud/seph

5 wolves and a 3p who was town to start