MAFIA - The Suras Hunt [Game Thread]

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

*sighs happily* This is the first time I've ever loved the public thread.  ;D

 

Take that, evil people! He may not be able to vote, but he'll be sitting on the sidelines, wrecking your days! :D

[Kivam]

while Greify was "comes up as.." Hax was "Hax is..."

 

I hope I didnt break the rule now  :-\

 

and Kivams and Griefys (tho i'm not 100% sure about him being Evil) reasoning seems fine.. i'll vote for [glow=red,2,300]Vemynal[/glow]

 

I hope Wes doesn't count that as rule breaking - with finder results, the finder should be able to convey the nuances, IMO.  But it's his game, his rules, so who knows

[MsDanya]

while Greify was "comes up as.." Hax was "Hax is..."

 

I hope I didnt break the rule now  :-\

 

and Kivams and Griefys (tho i'm not 100% sure about him being Evil) reasoning seems fine.. i'll vote for [glow=red,2,300]Vemynal[/glow]

 

I hope Wes doesn't count that as rule breaking - with finder results, the finder should be able to convey the nuances, IMO.  But it's his game, his rules, so who knows

 

*nods*  thats what was so strange this time. in every other game i've been Finder (and this as well) its been very clear who is innocent and who's guilty. but yeah it might be that Wes just used a different wording this time. only time will show..

 

and Wes, if I Find the Healer, will I be told that I do, or just that he/she is innocen/an assassin?

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

I'm fairly certain that the role would be revealed, but that's just my opinion. It's also my opinion that if you do find the healer, you not reveal their role. Just reveal their innocence. (Sorry if that is an obvious thing, lol--I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or anything.  ;))

[MsDanya]

lol yes it is my opinion too that I do not reveal if I find the healer  ;D

[Kivam]

Finder views generally do not reveal roles

[Haxorsist]

So we're lynching [glow=red,2,300]Vemynal[/glow]?

 

I kinda want to lynch Loki... Don't really know why. Vemy definately makes more sense, it's just that I get a bad vibe from Loki. ^^

I'm probably just imagining things. Let's kill Vemy! ;D

[DPR]

 

Current Game Vote Count:

 

[glow=red,2,300]Vemy ( 5 )[/glow] - Griefy, Kivam, Far, Danya, Hax

 

With 11 players, it takes 8 votes to lynch

 

*All is well*

[loki redfern]

thanks hax. ;) opaque huh, i usually prefer dense, but whatever 8)

im not going to vote just yet..i have this weird instinct saying that vemy has this ring of truth about him. and after toy, well that said i dont actally have another candidate.griefy i think is still a little suspect. to what end would the admaril say that if it was only just going to be found out the next day, so it would be nice to hear from him. another thing though is that vemy had the last choice on that bonestone thing. and people still ended up dieing. unless i read that wrong then :-[

 

[loki redfern]

hmmm i wonder [glow=red,2,300]FDM[/glow]  :-*

[Vemynal]

Ok guys! since kivam says that my death will help either way then I'm ok with dying I guess, and while I won't quote the mod here I can reveal some information^^

 

1) I did not take a piece of bonestone from that cave

 

2) I am a thief^^

 

3) Before we knew cloud was innocent I decided to steal bonestone from him. He gives it to someone literally right before posting after me

 

4) I chose griefy as my new target. Griefy had a piece of bonestone from those caves I mentioned before. I took possession of it just now and have now passed it onto someone else more trustworthy.

 

5) I am *NOT* the healer, so it is safe to lynch me

 

I shall miss you all very much ^^

[loki redfern]

awww i love your kivilove, thats so cute *pinches vemys ickl cheeks*

[Kivam]

Danya - I've just passed you a piece of bonestone that should ensure that you get 2 more nights of viewing - one of healer protection, and one of bonestone.  The healer MUST protect Danya tonight; with the bonestone in her hands, Danya can view two more unknowns the next two nights without worry of a nightkill, and if she does that, we win.

 

I can't say this enough: [glow=red,2,300]Healer, do not get cute, do not try to protect someone other than Danya thinking the Mafia won't target her[/glow].  If you protect Danya tonight, and the black stone is unused, we win.  If you don't, we could lose even without the black stone.

 

I'll die tonight, I'm cool with that.  Today we kill Vemy (yes, even though I think he's innocent).  Tomorrow we lynch Danya's target if the view comes up guilty, or one of the 2 unknowns if its innocent.  etc.

 

Oh, and right now I'd be thinking Loki, since he's the only 1 not voting Vemy, which could be a way of stretching today past the 48hr deadline (right now, unless they use the black stone or the healer gets cute, the only way the evils win is if a number of us die randomly from game events).

 

Hang 'em high, people!

[loki redfern]

so what shall we change it to [glow=red,2,300]loki[/glow] then, if vemy is an innocent in most likelyhood, then a random death is slightly more probable to get an evil dont yah think.

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

CASE ON LOKI!

 

 

 

First relevant post, he votes for Jaydena because she is the 8th person on the player list.:

Im here, iv just not got round to posting up untill now...had an um 'accident' in waterstones ..but yay now i have a signed copy of red seas under red skies   

... voting um, Jaydena . because..

 

this theory has to work for me one time  , n im feeling lucky..though if rufae gets more votes im not as averse to bandwagoning as usually, as i think he said he was a ninja

 

Defends Rufae against Ilgross’s statement regarding that Rufae should be lynched because he played a terrible game in the last Mafia game.

he might have learned...its a bit ..un know, well to condem him for every other game just cos of one..and the voting pattens are one of they main things that you use as analysis, i man i can see where your coming from, because first day lynches use usually get an innocent no voting really just moves that over to the next day but less one innocent

 

Says that Cleo, SinisterDeath, and Rufae are all suspicious in their reasons for voting for him.

you say you voted for me because i wasn't here, but then say it was at random - in the same post. then i explain why i wasnt here and now theres no mention using any reason whatsoever, in fact you have done a total u turn and say you didnt have any reason at all. your leaving yourself a lot of getouts there. and im starting to get some very bad vibes. im seriously thinking of changing my vote to one of you guys or posibbly rufae seeing as your clearly tying to move his bandwagon on to me for some reason, however before i do that id atleast like to hear anything you'd like to say as to why i should just let you vote my innocent bunny off. that im im to lazy at the monent to do the bolding thing.

 

He is the first person to bring up questions regarding the black bonestone. However this was done on the old DM site.

question for whoever is answing this question: if the black bonestone (or the one that only one person an evil) is used, is there a posibilty that becky could become evil, and would he still be an unlynchable?

 

Changes his vote to Rufae, even though he is fairly sure Rufae is innocent.

.this be taking to long. and he proffessed a ninja alligance somewhere so rufae (actually its because bump sounded so unoriginal, but hey, whats one to do) 

 

and sorry rufae..im about 70% sure your innocent, but i guess we have to get rollin some time or other.

 

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Comments about his vote:

im going to with hold my vote for now, im thinking rufae, as at this point he doesnt really have nothing to lose by it, but im going to mull this over a bit first, before being unentish

Votes for Kivam as Scout:

aww crap you have a point, id feel bad cos he did want to, if i said someone else kivam then . *gives kivam a lucky rabbits foot*..im sure you wont need it, but just incase like

 

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Unvotes Rufae:

why would he use it on kivam though..he more orless proved himself innocent by volunteering to go through the jungle. just an idle thought. i suppose it is good to have kivam a comfirmed innocent.

 

unvote rufae for now though as an innocent within reasonable doubt

 

Jumps on Hax’s vote on SinisterDeath, and places his vote there as well.

im voting sinisterdeath ,because im getting bad vibes offa him.

 

a bit less random than Hax's  , iv been thinkin about it for a while . then i got bored of thinking  and decided on instinct  . works for the dude

 

Justifies his vote on SD:

SD its not only that your name is insulting to me, but you seem to be up to something, pushing for some goal, like seeing an innocent lynched.

 

however i think that we should not do anything hasty yet, well except maybe leaving these caves ..

 

Unvotes SD:

next thing. the drums and people on the end of them is comeing here. people on the end of a 'pulsing' drum beat arent usually that friendly. if we lynch here it will be night, and so we wont be able to pass throung the forest, due to ryntull(sp) and things like that. hence we are trapped here. also were going back to the beaches anyway, its in both versions of the prophesy. the beaches are that way. when we get to the  cliffs, i'll be happy for you guys to lynch me , then only one of us will be dead like

 

hence ill unvote sinisterdeath untill we get to the other side

 

Puts his vote back on SD:

since were all walking along now, i guess i'll put my vote back on sinisterdeath, i dont see any reason not to ..  i gave proper reasons back there somewhere ...

 

toy..your something else

 

And here is Loki’s page 31 suspect list: His list of suspects: Cleo (innocent,roled-dead), DSage (innocent-dead), Hax (innocent), Cloud (innocent-dead), FDM (innocent). He also lists people he suspects without reasons: Dbob (evil-lynched), Danya (innocent-roled), Vemy (unknown). He also mentions that Griefy he suspects (findered innocent but it is in question), and the rest are probably innocent. He UNVOTES Sinister, saying that looking back at it, his posts didn’t seem so bad….though he’s placed his vote on him twice before—when he was in no danger of being lynched.

cleo- your were leaving your self alot of wiggle room in your posts back before we moved, and along with ilgroos, your were asking more than a coulpe to barm/wes, yes i know very tenuous

 

toy-...really what to say..there is nothing there, no offence, i think i can see why people are suspisious, you seem to be here, but trying to to leave and lasting mark...your grey manishness is well yea just follow the analogy through

 

hax - lots of of the cuff votes there..just the right amount of space between you and ilgross on the begining of the rufae episode and the "damn i all ways  forget to check fiddles" or something like that ..a prompt from your partner in evil

 

 

cloudy- um i think your newish to maffia here arnt you?..they usually do act a but weird at first, jumpy like

 

FDM- um bad vibes (that means i saw sumat and cant remember werre or what it was) , you keep jangling this little bells..there quiet,but you are seting them off for some reason

 

..nah ok that all i can remeber

 

oh and wes said we had 12 hours left at about ten to 1? i think, definatly no earlier, sowe have about 2 and a half hoursish?

 

hmm crap we arnt going to get a lynch here are we

 

suspected with out reasons

dbob

danya

vemy

 

griefy between the really crappy susoisions and just smelling of evil

 

the rest are probable innocent, but dont hold me to that 

 

thus unvote sinister what i though i saw didnt look so bad when i put on a different pair of shoes, and dude the name thing ,com'on

 

Votes Hax:

now i know i should vote for toy to getb this day on the way to over with.. but i just cant seem to do it..hax is there with two known innocents on him. that doesnt make him guily, however, my reasoning is this, there are 3-4 , or however many evils out there. there voting will be on the others swaying them to, say, toy thus, hax, and toy, a vote on hax and your level

 

Continues to support a Hax lynch.

i still think it would be more imformative to lynch hax and that it could be done. and if not, then meh, random is fine by me. i live by random

Changes his vote to Toy, after some cajoling from Griefy.

garr fine then. grrr useing pweez on me when i was unprepared 

 

toy

 

Votes for Cleo:

Cleopatra because the above is the icing on the cake

 

Gives an explanation about the black bonestone.

black bonestone changes everyone but one to innocent and if that one is lynched another takes their place as evil..which is bad for the good team as the one evil has a very good chance of surviving in some incarnation or other

 

Votes for SinisterDeath, after Danya role reveals.

cool i guessed right yay..though i suppose viewing hax was a pretty logical thing to do so ok not really that clever  *sigh* ahh well. ok so now im lazy after reading the consolidation thread, so i guess this might have already been done but as it seems that the evil team ..well there not good at being evil, no offence, but why talya, what did she do /say to ruffle there feathers, seeing as they new she was a confirmed innocent and most importantly roleless,  going from uncomfirmed  innocents would have given them a better chance of hitting danya, if she is the finder  ? so was this just kivams little ploy there working or did she do something that scared someone?

 

oh and the guy that wants death for the left handed, funnily enough it is because of your name this time  because its the one danya said ; sinisterdeath

 

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Sort of kind of accuses Vemy of being evil, but in a left handed joke kind of way.

you know like on the last page..maybe you dont need to read back because your evil, but some of us are actually doing that to try and figure stuff out

 

Conclusion: Loki is one of those people on DM that I just don’t get. (It’s not a bad thing though, I mean no offense by the comment :P). The fact that his suspect list was mostly innocent people is weird. The fact that he was all about thinking SD was suspicious, and then turns around and doesn’t even bother to put him on said suspect list is even weirder. Does he seem more suspicious to me than Vemy? I don’t know.

 

At this point I’m indifferent on who we lynch (barring myself, of course). All of their cases have avenues of guilt, as well as innocence. The fact that Vemy has come out and gone into rather specific detail before his lynch makes me doubt his guilt, and at this point, Jackdaw and Loki both are in the same boat for me. Even if Griefy is the symp, it isn’t going to matter if we get the other assassins, because we will win the game. 

 

[loki redfern]

wanst there a game where because all the evil player died but the symp  lived the symp won?

[Kivam]

so what shall we change it to [glow=red,2,300]loki[/glow] then, if vemy is an innocent in most likelyhood, then a random death is slightly more probable to get an evil dont yah think.

 

no.  just finish off Vemy

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

Yes, but that was a rather unique game. I could be completely wrong though, as the how to win wasn't actually stated. Perhaps every single bad guy/symp has to die in order for the good guys to win. I've played it though where if the symp is the only one left alive, the good guys would still win, since there isn't any way to target the symp, as they always show up innocent on the Finder report.

 

Probably a question to ask our Modly mod. Erm...how do we win this game? lol

[Vemynal]

to help with this plight: [glow=red,2,300]Vemynal[/glow]

 

Current Game Vote Count:

 

Vemy (6)- Griefy, Kivam, Far, Danya, Hax, Vemynal

Loki (1)- Loki

With 11 players, it takes 8 votes to lynch

 

 

Guys we only have a day left and pretty much all the very active people since the book came out have voted. Put all the votes on me (Loki :P) so that way we need even less people to vote for me.

 

We need to avoid the random deaths roberts is talking about and it may take too much time for everyone to switch their votes from me even if you think I'm innocent

 

We went over this with Dsage remember? the whole time limit thing?

 

Loki, if you vote me then we only need one other person to vote me to avoid the random deaths.

 

 

[Vemynal]

by my DM time we have at this point 1 day 6 hours left plz hurry

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

Wait, I'm completely confused: The Minister AND the Admiral are also entitled to votes now? Is that why we still have 11 players? If so, why are they allowed to vote for us, but the only way we can oust them is if we use bonestone?

 

 

 

 

[loki redfern]

 

We went over this with Dsage remember? the whole time limit thing?

 

Loki, if you vote me then we only need one other person to vote me to avoid the random deaths.

 

 

 

yes thats a very valid point. however i dont feel like doing that. so im going to stick with me

[Guest Far Dareis Mai]

So you are saying that you would rather gamble with the random deaths?  :-\

[Kivam]

Wait, I'm completely confused: The Minister AND the Admiral are also entitled to votes now? Is that why we still have 11 players? If so, why are they allowed to vote for us, but the only way we can oust them is if we use bonestone?

 

 

Yep - the minister, admiral and barm are unkillable by anything but random game events.

 

But I think Wes miscounted the votes required - 6 is a majority of 11, so hopefully we have enough for this lynch now.

[DPR]

Real Fast Mod Clarification: Kivam is half right, but since an uneven number of people have died the vote count has always been one higher than it would normally be. That putsthe voted needed at 7 - sorry for the error - i've spent the last five days preparing for an irs audit in early August, and that my friends is more harrowing than the pit! 7 votes to lynch!