Little Miss Mafia [Basic] 9'er - Game Thread

[Zander?]

Sorry I forget this @Sooh

 

Rule of 3?

[Sooh]

On 7/4/2019 at 5:57 PM, The Crusher said:

## vote Andre

 

On 7/4/2019 at 6:03 PM, Zanatron said:

 

 

Sexy AF

 

On 7/4/2019 at 6:12 PM, Zanatron said:

 

I love a good dare....

 

##VOTE AJ

 

On 7/4/2019 at 6:28 PM, The Crusher said:

 

 

 

 

Honestly AJ is putting in work and seems to want to play and solve the game. 

 

Kat? I can’t see anything even remotely moving towards solving the game . Maybe you guys are ok with it? That’s cool, Not me. 

 

##vote kat

 

On 7/4/2019 at 6:31 PM, Zanatron said:

@Crusher its normal for Kat and is NAI tbh.

 

If it continues into D2 then...lunch her up

 

#meta

 

On 7/4/2019 at 6:31 PM, Sooh said:

Tbh Crush, this is kinda par for the course in my recollection of D1's with Kat. She should come back stronger later (I hope).

 

On 7/4/2019 at 6:42 PM, Zanatron said:

##VOTE DICED

 

On 7/4/2019 at 6:44 PM, The Crusher said:

You guys all seem solid on this isn’t abnormal for day 1 Kat so I’ll follow suit. I feel similar about Jetscode in that manner, as far as knowing his game . So parlay is granted. 

 

I think AJ is being sincere and making an effort. He could be tricking me but he has been here since this countdown has started trying to solve the day. 

 

The last of my top 3 is

 

##vote dice

 

On 7/4/2019 at 6:47 PM, Zanatron said:

##unvote

 

On 7/4/2019 at 6:50 PM, Zanatron said:

 

Ya because Ive never heard of bussing AJ...nice try...

 

##VOTE AJ

Tbh it seems a bit strange for partners to follow one another so closely on votes as here, but if they are partners they made sure they eventually didn't end up on the same person. I also have a hard time with the fact that Z didn't fight more for the lynches he believed in, but it was D1, so I can't crucify him for that. 

On 7/4/2019 at 7:07 PM, keyholder21 said:

Final Vote Count.

 

NB (3) : Sooh, AJ, SexyHydra

Sooh (2) : Dice, NotBob

Dice (1) : Crusher

AJ (1) : Zander

 

Not Voting (2):  Katiora, Cass,

 

NotBob has been lynched!

For reference only.

[Sooh]

3 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

It is called analysis. Anyone can do the same and disagree with my conclusions. This is also why I put the posts that I've analysed there so that people can see for themselves where my thoughts are coming from.

 

Also the rule of 3 is when a mafia lists 3 people they want to lynch they often have a partner among those 3.

[Zander?]

Crushers posts Pages 11-20 

 

On 7/2/2019 at 8:30 PM, The Crusher said:

Weird post. Could have said you got no read on him. 

 

This is irt to a Dice comment on NB.

 

On 7/2/2019 at 8:52 PM, The Crusher said:

I agree with that. Zander is like trying to read lizardking at JN. Obviously Zander’s way better at mafia. 

 

I was referring to Notbob. Seems like a lot of explanation for not having a read on him. He’s just bouncing around getting reactions nothing to read yet, really. 

 

I prolly should have punched him for comparing me to LK ffs...lolololol

 

 

On 7/2/2019 at 9:03 PM, The Crusher said:

Zander is tough to read because of his kinetic posting style and reading it may injure my jing. 

 

Yet, he did get quite uppity and less jovial with a couple of exchanges he had. Seems off, Think one of the exchanges was with you . Certainly keep an eye on it. 

 

JC or NB is doing his early reaction thing, it’s a little weird because he showed up tardy kicked in the door and started stepping on toes. Nothing to read yet this feels non sinister if not obnoxious at the moment. 

 

Nyn is solid and playing her town game. Couple good post. Bunny is an easy town read for me usually . 

 

Dice and Kat are bothering me a bit. Dice seems like he’s trying too hard to explain nothing at this point. Like he’s trying to sell something. I got talk to him to get better feel. 

 

Kat, not sure I played with her before but her” golly I’m bad at mafia” thing would get her lynched with a quickness at JN. But seems from everyone’s reaction to it Seems to be something she does. 

 

Rest I gotta look more. Most sane people doing all the posting. 

 

No read or comments on Sooh here fwiw.  Im trying think on how Crush was always sussing Kat but would always kinda adhere to what we were telling him irt her Meta.  Like is he looking for possible LHF or making look like he's suspicious of her while always having an out not to have to commit to a Scum read on her?

 

On 7/2/2019 at 9:06 PM, The Crusher said:

Are you a school teacher by any chance? 

 

On 7/2/2019 at 9:39 PM, The Crusher said:

I posted my thoughts a little before you did.

 

Neither of us seem to be paying attention to one another. Didn’t have you in my reads. Hi! I’m Crusher. 

 

On 7/2/2019 at 9:41 PM, The Crusher said:

Considering your basically a mafia playing ping pong ball you get what you get. 

[TrippedOnReality]

Nice! Thanks for posting all that Sooh.  should make life a little easier when i have time to get back to the game.  yesterday was not great irl.  i spend 3 hours looking for rental car keys in a bean field last night (no we didn't find them) and waiting for roadside assistance to show up (which it never did).  I'll have to look at Sooh/Crusher interactions later as well.    

[Sooh]

On 7/5/2019 at 2:40 AM, Zanatron said:

 

Wagonomics means theres likely at least 1 Wolf on NB imo.

 

@ everyone 

 

Who is it and why and who makes the most sense as their partner and why?

 

Even if you disagree state you disagree but please answer like gun to head please.

 

On 7/5/2019 at 9:34 PM, The Crusher said:

Safe to say probably one scum on JCs train. Fairly obvious to  his play wasn’t indicative of his alignment

 

On 7/6/2019 at 1:13 AM, The Crusher said:

To start I’m still deciding if I’m more worried about the people on JCs train or the ones that didn’t pick a side. 

 

Sooh is putting in work but she is also doing a lot of that extra narrative stuff that just puts words out there. Talking about how people view her gameplay and then asking everyone what should be done. I do like that she pushed off the set up talk in favor of game related post. Set up talk good for couple or so post anymore than that and I feel it’s scum structure. 

 

So with that I’ll need to see what her meta is and compare it to what I think she is doing. Could he not sleeping for all I know. 

 

 

 

On 7/6/2019 at 12:55 PM, The Crusher said:

The if Sooh  is thing is nothing near how my brain works when I play mafia. I don’t try to connect players early and literally learned not to. Later as trains, flips and clearer pattern form ? Sure? But day 2, it’s a fools errand in my opinion. 

 

But since you asked I would say just by default if Sooh   is town then another player on JCs train would be most likely mafia. Just by the mechanic of removing Sooh from the scum pool. 

 

Go read old games? You guys are lucky I’m reading this one. Honestly just to do that I had to skip some of yours and Zander’s  post. You two are exhausting. 

 

 

 

On 7/7/2019 at 7:05 AM, keyholder21 said:

Final Vote Count

 

AJ (4) : Cass, Sooh, Zander, AJ

Dice (1) : Crusher

Sooh (2) : SexyHydra, Dice,

 

Not Voting (1) : Kat,
 

AJ has been lynched!

 

 

Vote Count 2.1 | Vote Count 2.2 | Vote Count 2.3 | Vote Count 2.4 | Vote Count 2.5 | Vote Count 2.6 | Vote Count 2.7 | Vote Count 2.8 | Vote Count 2.9 | Vote Count 2.10

 
Day One Final VC

 

On 7/7/2019 at 6:25 PM, The Crusher said:

d l

Accidentally sent as fragment. Big finger on small phone. To continue...

 

Id not lynch mostly because I got peeps ahead of you. Of the three I would lynch Zander is last, Ive seen some frustration heat from him early and some stuff I can’t mark as town, but those are more things I don’t expect as town as oppose to actual scum tells. Everybody is a little scummy every game. Why we play. 

 

Ive been clear why Is lynch Dice. 

 

Sooh and you are last two from Jetcodes train. AJ flipped town, Sooh is getting more heat from game. Best of a meta indicator I have.  not liking The soft defense Dice tossed earlier that AJ reacted to. 

 

Is go Dice then Soo. 

 

On 7/7/2019 at 8:45 PM, Zanatron said:

Crusher very rarely makes WoT posts from what I recall.

 

On 7/7/2019 at 9:13 PM, Zanatron said:

Its just Wagonomics.  Odds are theres a Wolf of a Town ML D1...im not saying its 100% or anything just need to factor in everything a kinda largethic and hard to read board.

 

On 7/8/2019 at 3:47 AM, The Crusher said:

Sooh is the last surviving  member of the Jetscode train. I find that interesting and so should everyone else. 

 

On 7/8/2019 at 4:10 AM, Zanatron said:

 

Now someone else is talking Wagonomics....

 

On 7/8/2019 at 5:02 AM, keyholder21 said:

That's deadline. 

 

Scene incoming.

 

 

Both Z and Crusher have been talking about how there has to be a wolf on NB's train. It's a strange thing for the two of them to be stuck on.  Also here Crusher imo outed himself by saying I was the sole survivor before Nyn/Liz were dead. 

 

I wish Z was the only one to have missed that, but Cass also missed that part when she responded. 

[Sooh]

15 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Nice! Thanks for posting all that Sooh.  should make life a little easier when i have time to get back to the game.  yesterday was not great irl.  i spend 3 hours looking for rental car keys in a bean field last night (no we didn't find them) and waiting for roadside assistance to show up (which it never did).  I'll have to look at Sooh/Crusher interactions later as well.    

Please do. I'm afraid I haven't been as organized beyond D1, but I've tried to quote what I've thought has been interesting posts from mainly Crusher/Z (would have done Kat's posts too, but there were none).

[Sooh]

On 7/8/2019 at 1:46 PM, The Crusher said:

Makes me think if there was a scum member on the first tian miss lynch then it was her. Why would it have anything to do with my read in Dice? 

He doubles down on my being the last one on NB's train alive and that that must mean I'm scum.

On 7/8/2019 at 2:44 PM, The Crusher said:

I answered this in thread. I think twice. Seems enough. 

Refuses to talk more about Z. I think even Cass re-asked and he didn't respond.

On 7/8/2019 at 4:23 PM, Zanatron said:

 

 

##vote crusher

I think Z was very quick at voting here. I've said it before that he quotes my posts as sort of a reason for the vote, and then when asked he talks about Dice softing. (below)

On 7/8/2019 at 4:31 PM, Zanatron said:

I hadnit my head if Crusher was Scum, he was most likely Scum with Dice, and now Dice is Softing and its a red on Crush hes softing and FML...  is it some sort of down under connection...have i been too afraid to suss Sooh hard enough this game....Fml

 

 

_____________________

 

I've been through the game now. 

 

@dicetosser1 and @Cass, given you two are now clear town I'm guessing scum will try to kill one of you tonight. Could you try to get your thoughts in before night ends in an hour and a half? ❤️ 

[Zander?]

3 minutes ago, Sooh said:

He doubles down on my being the last one on NB's train alive and that that must mean I'm scum.

Refuses to talk more about Z. I think even Cass re-asked and he didn't respond.

I think Z was very quick at voting here. I've said it before that he quotes my posts as sort of a reason for the vote, and then when asked he talks about Dice softing. (below)

 

 

_____________________

 

I've been through the game now. 

 

@dicetosser1 and @Cass, given you two are now clear town I'm guessing scum will try to kill one of you tonight. Could you try to get your thoughts in before night ends in an hour and a half? ❤️ 

 

Sooh is now Babe Ruth?

[Sooh]

5 minutes ago, Zanatron said:

 

Sooh is now Babe Ruth?

These references mean absolutely nothing to me Z. Hopefully somebody else gets a chuckle.

[Cass]

Hey frands ❤️

 

I'm getting smashed at work and even missed most of Origin

@dicetosser1 !!!!!!!!!

 

@Sooh I don't get Zander's references either, nvm. Have rushed through most of what's here. 

The initial Kat post was ?? for me, honestly I think she'd make that post in either alignment?

 

@Zanatron

Do you have a lean more towards Sooh or Kat-Tripped atp?

 

@TrippedOnReality I need to hear this bean-field story at some point.

Do you have reads on Sooh/Zander atp? Even half-formed ones?

[Cass]

A little thing, maybe, but the "Obviously Zander's way better at mafia" comment from Crusher in the stuff Sooh quoted is <.<

But then I don't know lizardking or whoever he was referencing/comparing Z to at the time.

 

 

[Cass]

1 hour ago, Zanatron said:

Crushers posts Pages 11-20 

 

This is irt to a Dice comment on NB.

 

 

I prolly should have punched him for comparing me to LK ffs...lolololol

 

 

 

No read or comments on Sooh here fwiw.  Im trying think on how Crush was always sussing Kat but would always kinda adhere to what we were telling him irt her Meta.  Like is he looking for possible LHF or making look like he's suspicious of her while always having an out not to have to commit to a Scum read on her?

 

 

 

The bold is ...

I think he was looking for LHF honestly, and not forcing the issue against thread consensus?

 

Otherwise, the plan in Scum chat would have had to have been "Just sus me heaps, I promise the thread will lead you away from me, cos it's my meta"

 

Which...  seems unlikely imo?

[Sooh]

No doubt that Crusher was right though. Z is great at mafia, and that's where I'm leaning at the moment (if that wasn't crystal clear already). It's hard to find anything to get Z on. His and Crusher's little pushes at one another have been believable and not over the top. They've consistently been able to have other suspicions that have been more prominent at all times. 

 

In my mind it comes down to who Crusher was willing to get rid of, and the unlikeliness of him wanting to have his roleblocker lynched. 

[Sooh]

Ugh Dice is in bed, isn't he?

[Cass]

On 7/9/2019 at 8:41 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

Yo, I just got to my destination.  As mentioned, I am traveling for work and will probably not be able to be around a ton during the day because poor cell service in rural corn fields is a thing.  I will make an effort to get caught up but in the meantime, a) can someone give me cliff notes on what's going on while I get caught up?  b) is there anything specific I should be looking at?

 

On 7/9/2019 at 8:52 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Is he outed mafia? 

 

Also, what's the vote count at?  I saw this game is hybrid hammer? 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 8:58 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

I'd like to get a little more caught up before casting my vote especially if you don't know where votes are at.  I don't want to end the day early on accident.   Assuming Dice is mafia, who is teamed with Dice?  Who is never teamed with Dice?

 

On 7/9/2019 at 10:05 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Oh, sweet.  Thanks for this.  I'm like, idk ~20 pages into reading.  I just got through Z/Liz slapfight that's making want to gouge my eyes out.  Not loving that Crusher told me to vote for Dice and basically peaced out.  I need to take a break to grab dinner, but I'll be back in a bit to finish reading.  

 

Can you give me cliffs on why NB and AJ got lynched, and do you think those wagons are clean or not?

 

At the very least, I don't think you/Crusher is probably a thing just based on votes/claims you posted above.  Dice/Crusher seems weird, too, based on that. 

 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 12:57 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Still catching up, but I think I agree with Sooh's assessment that Cass is pretty much always town if both claims are saying Cass is town.

 

As for the N0 peeks, I think the OP said the cop didn't have N0 peeks?

 

And I feel like last game I played with Dice/Z, dice was pretty sold on Z being town relatively early on and was commenting on how well he reads Z so I don't think Dice would probably peek someone he thinks he can read if that's the case.

 

Trying to decide if wolf!zander would point that out or not.  I think possibly not?  I think wolf!zander might just take the town read and run with it rather than pointing out it's probably read and not an actual peek.  I suppose maybe if the team is Dice/Z that might be a thing that would happen since wolf!z would know that Dice's claim is fake, but i also feel like they probably would have set it up better than that.  

 

On 7/9/2019 at 1:25 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

I got side tracked by work because people are stupid so I'm only in the 20s.  But i feel like Liz/Z slapfight was probably T/T, mostly because of how Z was trying to read around Liz by reading nyn instead.  I watched one game where Z was a wolf and he was significantly less confrontational so I don't really think he gets into a pointless argument about who voted who first and just keeps going down that path for little gain as a wolf and then tries to read around Liz anyway.  Like, it's way easier, if you're eventually going to town read that slot to not jump through the hoops he did to do it.  That said, idk what his read on that slot ends up being prior to the flip.

 

I think you're town for reasons stated above.  There is pretty much always at least one mafia between Crusher and Dice, but probably not both because that'd be kind of...well, not smart.

 

Which leaves me with Dice/Sooh and Crusher/Sooh.  But at least the last post I read from Sooh, i thought her tone seemed pretty good, and I liked her reasoning for calling you town.  So idk.  I feel like I'm misclearing one of Sooh/Zander, because I just don't think it's you and Crusher/Dice doesn't make any sense to me.   Maybe it will be more clear as I get more caught up.  

 

On 7/9/2019 at 3:18 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Alright, starting to get tired and I have to be up early tomorrow.   I'm on page ~40 and I'm not really loving the interaction between Z and AJ, especially knowing AJ is town.  I see Cass's point with so many people town reading the hydra slot by then where Z would basically have to pivot away from that otherwise it just looks really bad.  I feel like AJ was trying to get Z to respond to things, but wasn't getting the response he was looking for.   I can also see wolf!zander pushing town!aj as a deepwolf read just because i think enough people are probably justifiably paranoid of scum!AJ.  I thought AJ had a decent point on Zander that his reads were fairly shallow at the time.   Dice not being Dicey enough...Cass not being Cassy enough.  I don't really remember Zander complaining as much about not being able to read people in our last game, when there were a bunch of the same people in that game, but it's possible I'm misremembering.  I'll keep trying to read tomorrow.  I think the best option today is to lynch between Dice and Crusher regardless.  I should probably read more recent stuff about the claims tomorrow to see what makes the most sense to figure out where to put my vote before i go back and read older stuff again so I'll try to do that in the morning.    

 

On 7/9/2019 at 10:00 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

I just woke up but haven’t had a chance to read claimed yet. I haven’t seen much recent from Dice so that’s not helping at all. I think anyalignment!dice would probably town read town!Zander. I have no idea if Dice would town read teammate Zander, but part of me says probably not?  Idk how often town!dice has been wrong about any alignment!zander either. He seemed very convinced last game we played and he wasn’t wrong. 

 

i still don’t like that crusher was immediately pushing for me to vote Dice with minimal explanation. And when I asked him about team options, he never responded. I’m marginally confused because most of D1 people were reading crusher pretty favorably. So I’m not sure if it was just the way claims were handled that caused everyone to reconsider crusher or what happened there.  But at this point I’m leaning towards voting crusher, pending review of claims. 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 10:26 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Idk. I liked her post about you being town, but I think sooh is probably a good enough player to say that as any alignment. I got into some posts between sooh and a few other people near EoD 1 where sooh was more feisty than I’ve seen her before. But we’ve really only played one game together so idk how useful it is. Someone, I think Dice or Zander said it was more likely to come from mafia!sooh?  But I also think i remember you saying sooh would rather be town, so I’m not sure where that leaves me. 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 10:29 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

No. I haven’t played with wolf!you. I did spectate a game a while ago where you were wolf and Chris and Kat were town. 

 

On 7/9/2019 at 10:58 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Did sooh/zander have any notable interactions with dice/crusher that you can recall?  I thought I saw some comments about zander/Dice from right around when I subbed in. 

 

23 hours ago, Cass said:

 

See above for most of these

 

Crush-Zander are the most linked Imo

 

Zander-Dice is my tinfoils/deep fear, in case they're playing a massive jerk-Cass-around ploy, based on Dice's unchanging read of Z. It doesn't really make sense though. 

 

 

 

23 hours ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Oh. No. I haven’t been mafia on DM before.  

 

23 hours ago, TrippedOnReality said:

I’m out of time for today unless we get a weather delay and I magically have service. I expected more from Crusher if his claim was legit.  I’ll try to get more caught up tonight when I get back from the corn fields.

 

##vote:crusher 

 

1 hour ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Nice! Thanks for posting all that Sooh.  should make life a little easier when i have time to get back to the game.  yesterday was not great irl.  i spend 3 hours looking for rental car keys in a bean field last night (no we didn't find them) and waiting for roadside assistance to show up (which it never did).  I'll have to look at Sooh/Crusher interactions later as well.    

 

 

Ok, all of Tripped's posts so far.

 

The interactions with Crusher could go either way, WW would have to be distancing at that point, surely.

 

OTOH 

I think it's unlikely in most cases that a wolf coming in there would go to the lengths Tripped did to provide reasoned Town leans/reads on anyone, like she did with Z initially.

[Cass]

5 minutes ago, Sooh said:

Ugh Dice is in bed, isn't he?

 

Quite probably.

 

It's 2316pm here, I know he was awake for the Origin game, and at a game gathering somewhere and doesn't play on phone.

Because he's old and blind

? 

 

The game ended about an hour ago, but he also has a new job that he'll need to be up for in the morning, so ?

[Cass]

15 minutes ago, Sooh said:

No doubt that Crusher was right though. Z is great at mafia, and that's where I'm leaning at the moment (if that wasn't crystal clear already). It's hard to find anything to get Z on. His and Crusher's little pushes at one another have been believable and not over the top. They've consistently been able to have other suspicions that have been more prominent at all times. 

 

In my mind it comes down to who Crusher was willing to get rid of, and the unlikeliness of him wanting to have his roleblocker lynched. 

 

For me it's likely Z, partly given the way Crusher pushed you and Kat whilst putting him in null/won't/can't read and then the least-likely to lynch whilst refusing to really elaborate on the read or discuss it with me.

[Cass]

Caveat that I'd need to go back and look at the interactions between you @Sooh and Crusher specifically. The point when I recall him starting to sus you was possibly at a point where it would make sense for soft distancing, though gut is currently telling me that Crush's tone was more gearing up for a big push rather than just that?

 

Hopefully Dice will still be alive and able to shed some light on things in the morning.

[Sooh]

7 minutes ago, Cass said:

Ok, all of Tripped's posts so far.

 

The interactions with Crusher could go either way, WW would have to be distancing at that point, surely.

 

OTOH 

I think it's unlikely in most cases that a wolf coming in there would go to the lengths Tripped did to provide reasoned Town leans/reads on anyone, like she did with Z initially.

Yeah. It seemed very natural to me. I'm interested in seeing the further analysis too.

[Sooh]

1 minute ago, Cass said:

Caveat that I'd need to go back and look at the interactions between you @Sooh and Crusher specifically. The point when I recall him starting to sus you was possibly at a point where it would make sense for soft distancing, though gut is currently telling me that Crush's tone was more gearing up for a big push rather than just that?

 

Hopefully Dice will still be alive and able to shed some light on things in the morning.

Yeah, I hope Dice will be around too. Too bad it's so late at yours again. I'm looking forward to your analysis.

[Cass]

I've only played with Town!Tripped, but she was uhmazing. I wouldn't put her catchup and spiffy analysis past her Town ability for sure. 

 

*Tinfoils*

[Cass]

Just now, Sooh said:

Yeah, I hope Dice will be around too. Too bad it's so late at yours again. I'm looking forward to your analysis.

 

I don't have analysis right now, I have mobile and threat-of-job-at-any-second ?

[Cass]

@Zanatron

Where'd you go?

 

 

[Sooh]

2 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

I don't have analysis right now, I have mobile and threat-of-job-at-any-second ?

Aw sadness. Happy working though! ❤️