Little Miss Mafia [Basic] 9'er - Game Thread

[Andrej]

9 minutes ago, Cass said:

This was a good point. Contributed to my thoughts on shift possibly as a thing for lack of traction.

 

Hopefully all more clear now?

 

Kinda what I said about her, IIRC, but you called me out on it for not having her more Town and now you put her in the same basket I did?

 

That was a sharp point by Sooh. Kind of just reinforced my read on her tbh. She’s alert and confident. Definitely townie imo.

 

Clear is subjective ? but it is important for me to figure out some way for us to communicate better because if you are town I would like us to be able to work together.

 

The difference in my read to yours (how I see it) was mine is more eye-roll resigned familiarly with Kat and not wanting to TR her for negative behavior versus where you seemed to have her as a suspect while (I think) you should be just as familiar. Plus I’m a hypocrite ?

[Cass]

1 minute ago, Lizabeth said:

Sorry.

 

And it's not so much the pushes as the questions.

 

Although I'm realizing that I might never have played with town!Cass. I think I've read town!Cass from the spec stands before though....

 

I mean, you've acknowledged that you're not playing at full throttle so far. I'm willing to give you another day though.

 

I've already forgotten whose voting whom other than the votes on NB and zander, but who do you think would be the best lynch for today?

 

I think this is often a problem for ppl when they play with Town me.

 

If you've watched me from the Spec stands though, then you'll know that even when I play at full throttle it's more often than not likely to be scattered and random and not fantastically effective... At least I try, right?

 

 

I don't know how to decide the 'best' lynch for today. 

 

Like I said, at this point won't lynch your hydra or me. I can respect Kat's behaviour doesn't necessarily make her wolfy, and on a personal level I'd obv like to not mislynch her if she's Town, but that alone doesn't clear her enough to say no. Sooh, I'd probably also rather not, because she's active and contributing nicely, even though I'm not confident she wouldn't play the same as Scum.

[Zander?]

49 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

I am essentially in agreement about Nyn/Liz

 

I don't know what to make of Kat. I don't have her either way, but I do recognise that her talk of being bad at maf etc can happen when she's Town. Pretty sure I've seen her emulate it as scum though, @Sooh?

 

Crush... I don't personally remember a lot of analysing (sorry if it's there Crush) but can't say I 'ever remember seeing' how he plays. I tend to focus more on people I think I have some personal understanding of though, so maybe that plays into the null-wary sort of ...skimming... that I do for him, Kat, NB and Kat.

(As an aside, did you know - learners who have a history of repeated failure (me with reading those players) have a lower view of their ability to change the level of achievement, and will tend to follow avoidance behaviours as a result of conditioning. I don't have the time to apply a 'Growth Mindset' to reading these guys at the moment, so in the 'avoid making a call' category they go. Lol.)

 

So. Thoughts?

 

If this is irt the AJ thing im still waiting tho im still catching up atp.

[Lizabeth]

Just now, Zanatron said:

 

Liz.. how many games have you played with Kat for her to be your strongest Town read...?!?!?!

I've read many of her games. Every time she gets mislynched I've gone "Umm...what ae they doing? She's obviously town" and I've been right.

 

I've played a couple of games with her, one of which she was nontown survivor and was right that she wasn't town.

 

And I already explained that she is a type that I tend to be accurate in using soft tells with.

 

Anyway, I'd prefer not to argue with you today because that will go nowhere and I have enough real world stress without dealing with round 2 of the zander-liz show.... so you're free to disagree with me, but I'm sticking to my read for today. I'll reevaluate as we go along.

 

I'm more interested in your other reads at the moment.

[Zander?]

41 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

We're a hydra and I don't even feel like I know what your thoughts are on anything...

 

It feels like Zanderititis you both are suffering from...saying a lot....of nothing...lolololololol

 

Jkjkjkjk....lolololol

[Cass]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

That was a sharp point by Sooh. Kind of just reinforced my read on her tbh. She’s alert and confident. Definitely townie imo.

 

Clear is subjective ? but it is important for me to figure out some way for us to communicate better because if you are town I would like us to be able to work together.

 

The difference in my read to yours (how I see it) was mine is more eye-roll resigned familiarly with Kat and not wanting to TR her for negative behavior versus where you seemed to have her as a suspect while (I think) you should be just as familiar. Plus I’m a hypocrite ?

 

Hopefully my stance on Kat is cleared up for you now ?

 

Also, I feel like you've kinda fallen flat on your actual consideration of my alignment. Like you're justifying your behaviour, but not progressing on your analysis of mine.

 

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllyyyyyyyy out now.

[Lizabeth]

4 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

I think this is often a problem for ppl when they play with Town me.

 

If you've watched me from the Spec stands though, then you'll know that even when I play at full throttle it's more often than not likely to be scattered and random and not fantastically effective... At least I try, right?

 

 

I don't know how to decide the 'best' lynch for today. 

 

Like I said, at this point won't lynch your hydra or me. I can respect Kat's behaviour doesn't necessarily make her wolfy, and on a personal level I'd obv like to not mislynch her if she's Town, but that alone doesn't clear her enough to say no. Sooh, I'd probably also rather not, because she's active and contributing nicely, even though I'm not confident she wouldn't play the same as Scum.

lol, I assumed you don't want to lynch yourself ?

[Lizabeth]

2 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

Hopefully my stance on Kat is cleared up for you now ?

 

Also, I feel like you've kinda fallen flat on your actual consideration of my alignment. Like you're justifying your behaviour, but not progressing on your analysis of mine.

 

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllyyyyyyyy out now.

lol, you're as bad as me ?

[Zander?]

38 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

Actually, I'd like to hear Sooh's thoughts on this as well, if she has particular insight.

 

I'm kind of being stubborn in my town read on Kat, because it's the kind of read on a kind of player that I'm usually right on. But yeah....

 

(I still think she's town!)

 

Wtf is this?!?!?!

 

"Trust my read because i know im right without any proof"???

 

Wait...are you channeling your in Clov?!??!?!

 

Lololololol

[Lizabeth]

Zander, who do you want to lynch?

[Zander?]

Inner not in...lawl

[Lizabeth]

Just now, Zanatron said:

Inner not in...lawl

Good talk....

[Zander?]

12 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

Oh, you mean that's your nightmare scenario?

 

 

Yes Aj is my secret Deepwolf btw.

[Cass]

Actually, one more thing. I don't know when I'll be back.

 

In the case that I remain absent, Town PSA:

 

I hereby solemnly swear that this is not a reason for concern* and I'm not a wolf.

 

 

*in-game. RL may be a different story >.< 

[Zander?]

13 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

That was a sharp point by Sooh. Kind of just reinforced my read on her tbh. She’s alert and confident. Definitely townie imo.

 

Clear is subjective ? but it is important for me to figure out some way for us to communicate better because if you are town I would like us to be able to work together.

 

The difference in my read to yours (how I see it) was mine is more eye-roll resigned familiarly with Kat and not wanting to TR her for negative behavior versus where you seemed to have her as a suspect while (I think) you should be just as familiar. Plus I’m a hypocrite ?

 

God I feel good about Sooh too and its freaking me out.....fml!!!!

[Andrej]

31 minutes ago, Cass said:

FTR This one bugs/ed me AJ

 

In the sense that I know you know my history with voting, and for you to use 'who' I vote for as a thing to try and analyse me (fit me with your reads), before any flips, rather than reading me on how my behaviour looks for me seemed like waiting for a chance to push.

 

OTOH You do tend to approach the game more logic-ish than me, so ?Maybe it fits.

 

I can't word this properly right now. But logically, I'm not sure it makes sense.

You have reads on people. At this point in the game, they can't be solid data for a towny, but you say you want to use my reaction to THEM to read me. Instead of reading my approach to the game. Which meh

 

But then, you reconsider instead of pushing me on it... so hmm.

 

How would where I put my vote (or lack of) influence your thoughts on my alignment?

 

IRT you & NB - I still think it was a fair observation on my part. Maybe not correct but at least founded in something.

 

IRT when I said who that should also include how. I know that you know that I know lol, which is why I was waiting to see. It’s not just about The Who but the way you approached it. IMO you are good at reacting to things and showing that you are processing things that you should to make reads, but when it comes time to actually buckle down and vote a townie to ML that you struggle a bit. And I thought this situation was advantageous since there weren’t wagons of substance yet and it would let me see in which direction you’d move and why. Which of course I ruined because I’m impatient but at the time I felt it would be informative and that if you are actually scum it would rattle you a little. (Sorry if that’s mean)

 

Saying that it seems like I was waiting is accurate, cause I was, but not for the sake of just having something to pounce on. I wanted to see what you did and then move in a stronger direction, whichever way that might be.

[Zander?]

12 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

I've read many of her games. Every time she gets mislynched I've gone "Umm...what ae they doing? She's obviously town" and I've been right.

 

I've played a couple of games with her, one of which she was nontown survivor and was right that she wasn't town.

 

And I already explained that she is a type that I tend to be accurate in using soft tells with.

 

Anyway, I'd prefer not to argue with you today because that will go nowhere and I have enough real world stress without dealing with round 2 of the zander-liz show.... so you're free to disagree with me, but I'm sticking to my read for today. I'll reevaluate as we go along.

 

I'm more interested in your other reads at the moment.

 

Again with this...i just know im right answer....please tell me you understand why that reasoning doesnt sit well with me at least?

 

Let me catch up and see if anythings shaken out for me.

[Zander?]

10 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

Zander, who do you want to lynch?

 

Hmmmmmm

 

Gth atp Cass maybe...i cant tell if its just rl stuff dragging her down or what but i dont feel any of the enfp need to solve fire.  No passion no WIM!

 

What bothers me more is i cant name hardly anyones lynch i want to fight either atp.

 

Fml

[Zander?]

11 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

Good talk....

 

You're welcome!

[Zander?]

8 minutes ago, Cass said:

Actually, one more thing. I don't know when I'll be back.

 

In the case that I remain absent, Town PSA:

 

I hereby solemnly swear that this is not a reason for concern* and I'm not a wolf.

 

 

*in-game. RL may be a different story >.< 

 

Cass is the post i vote you for?!?!?!?!?!

Sadface.gif 

[Andrej]

17 minutes ago, Cass said:

Hopefully my stance on Kat is cleared up for you now ?

 

Also, I feel like you've kinda fallen flat on your actual consideration of my alignment. Like you're justifying your behaviour, but not progressing on your analysis of mine.

 

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllyyyyyyyy out now.

 

I think I’m quite actively still considering your alignment ?

 

Think of this as me accepting the idea I may have been wrong and fallen into my conf bias tendencies sooner than I should have, and now I’m attempting to have an open and candid bridge of communication with you.

[Zander?]

Im gonna crash in a couple mins if anyone wants to chat fire away quickly 

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Zanatron said:

Im gonna crash in a couple mins if anyone wants to chat fire away quickly 

 

NotBob?

[Zander?]

Just now, Andrej said:

 

NotBob?

 

Hell of a guy???

 

NotAJ???

 

NotTown???

 

NotSure???

 

Wouldn't fight his lynch atp but hes still def in his Town range atp imo. His style his not a hard one to mimic as Scum admittedly.

[Zander?]

I debating eating a bowl of cereal at 11:30pm because I'm an adult and i can do wtf i want to!!!!