RAGNAROK AVERTED - TOWN WINS (Including EP)

[Andrej]

Not to mention other sketch balls are suddenly popping up and seem interested in the flavor of the day. I know not everyone can be Mafia but the list of people I trust is short.

[DPR]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

Straight up, and as much as it annoys me, Lenlo cares more about is performance as scum - the win - to self sabotage. The stuff I called him on? That stuff is plausible but I don’t think the suicide vote fits. He’d go down fighting me tooth and nail, as we’ve done before not that long ago.

 

Damn man, you can't make all those points and then walk it back without looking like you realized you went too far with something.  He hasn't been scum hunting - his activity has been spotty - he has been opportunistic, and if he had just come on and said "sorry gang, I'm just not feeling it glgl" I would buy it. 

 

But he hung out and argued until it was pretty obvious you had him beat with logic and then he self voted, in the most obvious sympathy-play kind of way. 

 

And then you did a 180. 

 

 

[DPR]

3 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Not to mention other sketch balls are suddenly popping up and seem interested in the flavor of the day. I know not everyone can be Mafia but the list of people I trust is short.

 

Agreed here.

[DPR]

Lenlo, you need to come back and talk about this.

[DPR]

@Lenlo please come back and discuss this.

[Andrej]

9 minutes ago, DPR said:

Damn man, you can't make all those points and then walk it back without looking like you realized you went too far with something.  He hasn't been scum hunting - his activity has been spotty - he has been opportunistic, and if he had just come on and said "sorry gang, I'm just not feeling it glgl" I would buy it. 

 

But he hung out and argued until it was pretty obvious you had him beat with logic and then he self voted, in the most obvious sympathy-play kind of way. 

 

And then you did a 180. 

 

Sometimes I bulldoze when I think I’ve found something. Sorta like Ape just less stupid.

 

I don’t expect Lenlo to get called out and say nothing about it in any situation, but I also think he wouldn’t just hang up and quit. I’m not like Nolder who is going to lecture people about how self-voting is scummy and then literally self-hammer myself in games lol.

[Nynaeve]

Lol!

[DPR]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Sometimes I bulldoze when I think I’ve found something. Sorta like Ape just less stupid.

 

I don’t expect Lenlo to get called out and say nothing about it in any situation, but I also think he wouldn’t just hang up and quit. I’m not like Nolder who is going to lecture people about how self-voting is scummy and then literally self-hammer myself in games lol.

 

Nothing happened that would make anyone quit. 

 

If Len doesn't show up, I have to believe he's trying to avoid the thread.

 

We have just over 2.5 hours to work this out, so the sooner he shows the better. 

 

[Andrej]

9 minutes ago, DPR said:

Nothing happened that would make anyone quit. 

 

If Len doesn't show up, I have to believe he's trying to avoid the thread.

 

We have just over 2.5 hours to work this out, so the sooner he shows the better.

 

If we have to lynch him we will. Get his info and then analyze more, but I admit that I’m not nearly as confident.

[keyholder21]

Vote Count 3.6

 

BG: DPR, AJ

DPR: Eddie, EP

No Lynch: BG

Nyn: Shad,

Lenlo: Nyn, Nyn, Ley, Lenlo

 

Not voting (4/13): Kat, Hally, ArieSooh, Krak

 

 

Vote Count 3.1 | Vote Count 3.2 | Vote Count 3.3 | Vote Count 3.4 | Vote Count 3.4 (should have been 3.5)

 

[DPR]

3 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

If we have to lynch him we will. Get his info and then analyze more, but I admit that I’m not nearly as confident.

 

Not exactly a comfort coming from the guy who has all the guns and the plan to give them out to people that are, shall we say, questionable in their judgement. 

 

You're a big boy. Go back through your case and get off the fence. 

 

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, DPR said:

Not exactly a comfort coming from the guy who has all the guns and the plan to give them out to people that are, shall we say, questionable in their judgement. 

 

You're a big boy. Go back through your case and get off the fence.

 

That’s a fair critique but like I told you earlier, I have a plan and believe that spreading the field is better to make it harder for scum to counter. Four different potential gun recipients, four different potential targets.

 

In the end, I care more about winning the game than winning arguments. If Lenlo can’t come back and resolve himself then we will confirm him one way or another and reevaluate.

[Andrej]

I wish it was easier to surface back through pages.

 

Each Day someone has lost their vote and I am wondering if it’s a hidden ability or when somebody in particular gets voted.

[DPR]

I understand and I know that you do to. I've said my piece about the plan and it is what it is. 

 

I'm more concerned about the vote right now. If Lenlo comes back, I'm happy to talk to him but until then I have to assume that he threw an emo fit and split because he was afraid of losing the argument and getting lynched.

 

Vote: Lenlo

[DPR]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

I wish it was easier to surface back through pages.

 

Each Day someone has lost their vote and I am wondering if it’s a hidden ability or when somebody in particular gets voted.

 

Probably best to save new topics until after we get the current vote sorted. 

[Andrej]

11 minutes ago, DPR said:

I understand and I know that you do to. I've said my piece about the plan and it is what it is. 

 

I'm more concerned about the vote right now. If Lenlo comes back, I'm happy to talk to him but until then I have to assume that he threw an emo fit and split because he was afraid of losing the argument and getting lynched.

 

Vote: Lenlo

 

If you want to name a target as well, I’ll consider it.

 

I’m getting ready for work but I’ll be back before Twilight.

 

I’ll accept targets from anyone between now and when Night falls.

 

[Lenlo]

I just need to say, dont pity me AJ. If you think im a wolf, go for it.

 

Also I was driving home. Traffic in DC sucks and im mostly in a bad mood from being in cross-continental calls since 5am. Dont mind me. Im taking a shower and then ill be back

[Lenlo]

1 hour ago, DPR said:

 

Damn man, you can't make all those points and then walk it back without looking like you realized you went too far with something.  He hasn't been scum hunting - his activity has been spotty - he has been opportunistic, and if he had just come on and said "sorry gang, I'm just not feeling it glgl" I would buy it. 

 

But he hung out and argued until it was pretty obvious you had him beat with logic and then he self voted, in the most obvious sympathy-play kind of way. 

 

And then you did a 180. 

 

 

^

 

DPR isnt wrong here. Dont let emo/AtE eat at your case AJ.

 

Also like I said before, I didnt dip. I drove home from work.

[Lenlo]

Im open to talk btw, I just dont want to read through 120 pages of pap and unkillable people again.

[DPR]

Cool. Len, outside of BG, will you please give your reads on the other players in the game?

[Nynaeve]

15 hours ago, Shad_ said:

 

Vote: Nyn

 

that quote is not town!Nyn

 

She's gotten in an out-of-game personal fight with someone in every game of Mafia she's ever played and I've never seen her use it as a cop-out to not hunt scum.

 

14 hours ago, Andrej said:

Vote: Nyn

 

Lets do this actually.

 

14 hours ago, Arie said:

Honestly, knowing Nyn, her not having an opinion is enough for me to be "o.O" and if that's a tell. I'm game. 

Vote Nyn.

 

14 hours ago, Leyrann said:

 

That's not true. I can only clearly remember one game with Nyn (we were lovers in that game), and he did not get into any fights.

 

Anyways, enough of the drama, let's just stop bringing it up okay?

 

I do agree that Nyn is unexpectedly passive this game, so let's just do this. I also don't think I've ever seen her as scum so a different playstyle than normal is pinging. (ftr, though I cannot clearly remember her from other games, I can remember her general playstyle; the two are different things)

 

Vote: Nyn

 

7 hours ago, Shad_ said:

 

Curious to see if that vote counts.

 

She hates randing wolf and generally takes a disengaged back seat or just subs out.  If she really likes her team she'll try but she won't be happy about it, like even in GitS she kept going on in QT about how she only didn't sub out for DPR and Ed's sake.  Basically if her frustration is all centered around the need to play the game she's probably not a villager.

 

7 hours ago, keyholder21 said:

Vote Count 3.4

 

BG: Lenlo, DPR

DPR: Eddie, EP

No Lynch: BG

Nyn: Shad, Ley

Lenlo: AJ

 

Not voting (5/13): Kat, Hally, Nyn, ArieSooh, Krak

 

 

Vote Count 3.1 | Vote Count 3.2 | Vote Count 3.3

 

4 people vote me.... including shad....and for some reason shad only "wonders" if arie's vote will stick and then... woosh... it disappears?

[Nynaeve]

Im game to bote shad or arie rn.

[Nynaeve]

Vote*

[Lenlo]

EP - Could have let his personal issues/argument control the game and coast for days on that. Instigated more fights with it, easily could have coasted to the end. Seen some effort here. Personal issues between us aside, I would keep them around.

 

BG - Lynch this slot. Shoot this slot. Get rid of it.

 

Kat - Unlynchable. If it wasnt for that, probably my #1 lynch. I started ignoring everything she posted onces gifs entered the picture

 

Shad - Much the same as AJ. Id probably lynch Shad before AJ.

 

Sooh/Arieh - I remember like... 2 posts from Arieh? Otherwise Sooh seems largely to have coasted, "Mediated". I want to cite a lack of cases/effort as wolf but have you seen this game? Who has wim when no one dies when they should? Worst thing I can cite in place of that is a lack of presence

 

Hallia - Her RB on Shad is suss. Im never good at reading her. Typically rely on others to do that for me.

 

DPR - Conflicted. Probably the closest to null I have. One page hes doing nothing, the next hes arguing random  BS, next after that hes arguing valid points. All over the place. Personally if I had a gun, this would be my YOLO shot.

 

AJ - Im biased here. I was solid town before his push on me. The aggrivated part wants to say "wolf cause planning ahead for when I flip town". Rational part of me says thats just spite speaking. If hes not dead by Final 3, odds are hes a wolf, cause no other way does he survive that long. If the wolves let him live that long on some kind of gambit and didnt get caught they deserve to win.

 

Ley - Take AJ's case, replace Len with Ley. More serious though I have gotten bad vibes all game. Id get quotes but lol ISO's. Its hard to do my ISO catchup without them. In general the first words that come to mind are oppotunistic, never really pushing the envelope.

 

Nyn - Triple vote. Seems to pile on whats popular at the time. Sure didnt take convincing to pile on me. That or really focused on Shad. Antagonistic, knows Shad will always take the bait. Just now recent attempt to smear Shad for vote stealing, when Shad has I believe stated he has a kill role of some kind. Since he was gonna shoot Hallia and got RBed. YOLO shot #2. 

 

Krak - IC, who cares beyond that

 

My lynch order Kat (Doesnt matter) > BG > Ley > Hallia > Nyn > Sooh/Arieh > DPR > EP > Shad > AJ > Krak 

 

Im in a better mood now. Yaaay hot water. Im gonna make somethin to eat.

 

[Nynaeve]

Arie hasnt done anything but go all "gee nyn doesnt have an opinion? Then ill vote her then!"